So what? The reason we aren't routinely sending manned missions outside of Earth orbit only has to do with politics, not technology. We are technically capable of doing things that there is little political will to fund. Maybe once China starts getting itself established on the moon then the US will decide to take a more active role again in the name of "pride" or some shit, when it should really be done now for its own sake.
All of this is to say that over the next 1,000 years nearly anything is possible. Maybe we'll nuke ourselves into oblivion. Maybe we'll settle another solar system. Maybe somewhere in between. Technical limitations are the least of our worries. Politics and war will always be a threat to progress long before we hit any technical block that we can't pass.
I mean, 8 years and your battery is almost a brick right?
Is that an assertion of fact, or a question? It looks like a question, with that question mark there and everything, but then you keep going as if it's a fact.
Any rational look at reality will show that space is a dead end. There will NOT be this glorious ascension of "we" into the heavens. OK? Sinking in yet?
That conclusion seems a little bit ridiculous. Humanity is, what, about 200,000 years old? It took us about that long to develop the ability of controlled powered heavier-than-air flight, in 1903. Then in the 40s we figured out how to split the atom. And by the 1960s we had landed manned space craft on the moon. So it took us ~200,000 years until we figured out and had the ability to build an airplane, and then less than 70 years after doing that we were standing on the moon, and by now we have sent space craft to every planet. Yes, "we". I'm referring to members of Homo sapiens sapiens; I'm making a wild assumption that you're also a member of that group even though I only have circumstantial evidence.
If we can land multiple manned spacecraft on the moon, then the path from there to building a structure on the moon is not that far off. Maybe 50, 100, 200 years. Not long at all. Once we can build 1 structure on the moon then we can build 10, and we can link them and have them perform the various functions necessary to sustain human life (harvesting energy, food, water, etc). So the idea of a self-sufficient base or city on the moon is probably within the range of a few hundred years. That's a drop in the bucket. And if we can do that on the moon, then why can't we do it on another planet like Mars? What, will that take another 500 years or so of further development and testing? Big deal. If we can build a base like that on another planet, then what's stopping us from building bases on the moons of all of the outer planets? Another few hundred years? Then, with the experience of being able to build self-sufficient structures to house humans on nearly every kind of habitable solid area in the solar system, then why can't we build a large ship to do the same purpose, but as it travels through space instead of being stuck on one body? And if we can build a large ship capable of sustaining a human population, then why can't we send that ship to another star?
It took us 200,000 years to reach heavier-than-air flight, and then less than 70 years for a man to stand on the moon. The only thing between "us" and a permanent settlement around another star is time. Maybe it will take another 10,000 years, who knows? About 11,000 years ago we were just figuring out how to cultivate agriculture, and now we're powering nations with nuclear energy while we talk to each other on the internet. Are you located in the building next to me, or are you halfway around the world, or at a research station in Antarctica? I can't even tell, because all of us can communicate with each other.
The planet Mars has 13 artificial satellites in orbit, 9 vehicles have safely reached its surface (Opportunity has been operational on the surface for over 12 years now, by the way), and you don't think that we're ever going to be able to build a city anywhere other than the Earth. Your sense of rationality is highly skewed.
I'm sad for you APK. I'm sad for what you've become. Here, I'll play along to hopefully help you feel better.
Oh, geez! Man, I hope people don't click on that link you posted! Boy, am I embarrassed! All of those quotes about how fantastic and professional your software is, and how people love you as a person, make me really look goofy! Oh, shucks. Man, I've really been thoroughly defeated, and I feel a great and burdensome sense of shame (not just on me, but indeed upon my entire extended family). You have really put me in my place APK, and clearly everyone on Slashdot recognizes and understands that you are an upstanding genius who only makes Slashdot better, while my entire life has no value. I am going to immediately cancel all internet services, destroy all of my electronic devices, donate my property to hungry children, and go live the life of a recluse monk in Nepal seeking a way to atone for all that I've done.
I'm happy to compete, because I have a system that is more effective, easier to use, as well as cheaper. My solution only costs $1.1 million, and I will furnish 10,000 coins. Instead of bulky, heavy quarters my system uses a copper-plated zinc coin that is both smaller and lighter than a quarter, resulting in less physical strain in the workforce. The obverse depicts the profile of a man, while the reverse is of a rectangular building which cannot be confused with the obverse. In addition, my system contains all of the benefits of your system, with a 500% increase in deployment size, at a substantial cost savings to the taxpayer.
Right, this has nothing to do with the security of the extension repository and everything to do with yet another example of advertisers getting their hands on something and then shitting all over it. This is what advertisers do, they suck up all of the data they can, sell it, and show ads. What's missing from this story is the naming and shaming of the advertising company in question, and a condemnation from other advertisers that their industry should not engage in this kind of shady crap. I wouldn't hold my breath for those though.
At least the original author is doing his part after he realized what happened:
I'm going to alert as many users as I can that it has been compromised. I still have access to the mailing list (it was not part of the sale). Will be sending them a message with details.
That comment deserves to be modded up, there are definitely models which don't require advertising and anyone who believes that advertising is a great thing that powers the internet is delusional. Advertising networks spread malware, and that's a fact. The advertising industry is a drain on the internet, not its savior. How much internet traffic is devoted to spam email, again? Imagine how fast things would be if all of the spam instantly stopped. Imagine how fast things would be if the traffic pipes weren't pushing video ads all over the place. Advertising is a drain, not a benefit.
You want proof? I've seen about 10 posts in this thread so far from some guy apparently pushing a Thai porn site (does no one have mod points or something?). Is that guy a benefit to this thread, or to Slashdot in general? No, he's not. He's just a spammer leeching on the rest of us. Advertisers will always find a way to shit all over something good if they think there's money for them in it.
Yeah, idiot, just make friends with farmers. Gasoline farmers, rental property farmers, bread farmers, beer farmers, insurance farmers, electricity farmers, sewage treatment farmers, trash can farmers. You know, farmers! When it's time to pay your mortgage you put a gold bar in an envelope and send it to your lender. If they don't want to accept it just tell them to make friends with farmers.
Little known fact: you can send many things through the mail service without needing packaging. You can just write your name and account number directly on the gold bar, the address of your lender, put some stamps on it, and drop it right in the mailbox.
I have a hypothesis of my own. My hypothesis is that the people who modded OP up based on the suggestion that the center of the earth's orbit is far from the sun's center of mass (and, indeed, that it has recently changed) are the same kinds of people who think that climate scientists have no idea what they're talking about.
They couldn't just drop it for no reason if they thought they weren't going to win at the Supreme Court. They were already pushing the narrative that there was a national security interest, that maybe they can prevent another terrorist attack, think of the children, etc. They can't just back off that once they say those are the reasons. They needed a conclusion, they couldn't just drop it. Now they have a conclusion, so now they'll back off. I fully expect to hear no more about any information that they may have gotten from that phone.
Yep. If a force is pushing the object towards the earth then even when that force is no longer acting on the object it will continue moving in the same direction. It will only stop if another force acts to stop it from moving relative to the earth.
Unless your orbit is low enough to experience atmospheric drag, *any* orbit is going to be stable, with a fixed period.
Look at the graph in the tweet. Does the period look fixed or does it look like it is very slightly decreasing over time? The vast majority of things that we launch have orbits which degrade. Even the ISS orbit degrades and they periodically use propellant to push it back a little higher.
Here's a tweet that shows a sudden change in orbital period. That could be consistent with an impact pushing it slightly closer to the planet. That's a small change, I think the Y axis on that graph is orbital period in minutes, so it only represents a change of about 2 seconds. Even so, it's obviously noticeable. Although it's a little odd that it didn't keep changing that quickly. If an impact pushed it into a slightly lower orbit it wouldn't just stop there, it would keep falling. Although maybe the impact came from the rear and it just slightly sped up the satellite. If the speed slightly increased then that should result in a 1-time drop in the orbital period.
If it were hit by a meteor coming from outside Earth orbit, the parts wouldn't be in quite the same area as the satellite afterwards, right?
I think that a micro-meteor would punch a hole right through it. If that hole passes through something like a tank or bottle of gas then that would cause a problem.
I think an anti-satellite missile would result in more than 5 pieces. Although the tweet referenced in the summary states 2 breakup events, one resulting in 5 pieces and the other in 21 pieces. And for some reason it seems to conclude that the 2 events are unrelated. While it would be interesting if it were struck by either a natural object or debris, it sounds like the events are actually related and that it experienced an onboard failure. Or, the second breakup event could have also been caused by the first.
Right, it's just common parlance. Like when you're going camping with your friends and their sons, everyone says "bye honey, I'm going to go hang out with the males."
That's your favorite tactic, APK, taking an insult and just pushing it right back. That's the "I know you are but what am I" style of argument that you haven't grown out of yet. There are a lot of things that you still retain from elementary school, that's one of them.
This is what you're down to. It's sad, you used to be a troll on an epic level and now you hide behind anonymous posts only speaking about yourself in the third person. I miss the old APK. I guess he's gone though, due to the changes at Slashdot. Now you're relegated to anonymous shit posting. The end of an era...
Responding to this crap actually depresses me at this point, it's sad what you've come to. Take care, formerly-epic troll. Better luck with a new site, I guess.
No, what's pathetic is that you are posting anonymously to support yourself, because you have no support from anyone else. You're crowing about still being able to post, and then you hide like a little bitch and act like no one knows it's you posting. You have never won an argument against me, you have never made me "eat my words" on any point of fact. Your little stream of quotes is pathetic, and so are you. Grow up kid.
You might want to try that insult again, in English this time please.
This is what you're down to APK, anonymous posts with dumb meaningless non-insults. Your declaration of victory has fallen so much that you are now claiming victory just by your continued ability to post. The bar with you has dropped very very low. You won't even sign your posts anymore. I genuinely wonder why you even bother posting here if this is all you're doing.
Reread that comment that you like to link to so much, APK. Not a single one of those quotes is saying that someone likes you. There are a few saying you're not entirely incorrect about hosts files, there are a few that say that your program isn't complete shit, and one person saying he likes your spam. No one likes you.
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So what? The reason we aren't routinely sending manned missions outside of Earth orbit only has to do with politics, not technology. We are technically capable of doing things that there is little political will to fund. Maybe once China starts getting itself established on the moon then the US will decide to take a more active role again in the name of "pride" or some shit, when it should really be done now for its own sake.
All of this is to say that over the next 1,000 years nearly anything is possible. Maybe we'll nuke ourselves into oblivion. Maybe we'll settle another solar system. Maybe somewhere in between. Technical limitations are the least of our worries. Politics and war will always be a threat to progress long before we hit any technical block that we can't pass.
I mean, 8 years and your battery is almost a brick right?
Is that an assertion of fact, or a question? It looks like a question, with that question mark there and everything, but then you keep going as if it's a fact.
Any rational look at reality will show that space is a dead end. There will NOT be this glorious ascension of "we" into the heavens. OK? Sinking in yet?
That conclusion seems a little bit ridiculous. Humanity is, what, about 200,000 years old? It took us about that long to develop the ability of controlled powered heavier-than-air flight, in 1903. Then in the 40s we figured out how to split the atom. And by the 1960s we had landed manned space craft on the moon. So it took us ~200,000 years until we figured out and had the ability to build an airplane, and then less than 70 years after doing that we were standing on the moon, and by now we have sent space craft to every planet. Yes, "we". I'm referring to members of Homo sapiens sapiens; I'm making a wild assumption that you're also a member of that group even though I only have circumstantial evidence.
If we can land multiple manned spacecraft on the moon, then the path from there to building a structure on the moon is not that far off. Maybe 50, 100, 200 years. Not long at all. Once we can build 1 structure on the moon then we can build 10, and we can link them and have them perform the various functions necessary to sustain human life (harvesting energy, food, water, etc). So the idea of a self-sufficient base or city on the moon is probably within the range of a few hundred years. That's a drop in the bucket. And if we can do that on the moon, then why can't we do it on another planet like Mars? What, will that take another 500 years or so of further development and testing? Big deal. If we can build a base like that on another planet, then what's stopping us from building bases on the moons of all of the outer planets? Another few hundred years? Then, with the experience of being able to build self-sufficient structures to house humans on nearly every kind of habitable solid area in the solar system, then why can't we build a large ship to do the same purpose, but as it travels through space instead of being stuck on one body? And if we can build a large ship capable of sustaining a human population, then why can't we send that ship to another star?
It took us 200,000 years to reach heavier-than-air flight, and then less than 70 years for a man to stand on the moon. The only thing between "us" and a permanent settlement around another star is time. Maybe it will take another 10,000 years, who knows? About 11,000 years ago we were just figuring out how to cultivate agriculture, and now we're powering nations with nuclear energy while we talk to each other on the internet. Are you located in the building next to me, or are you halfway around the world, or at a research station in Antarctica? I can't even tell, because all of us can communicate with each other.
The planet Mars has 13 artificial satellites in orbit, 9 vehicles have safely reached its surface (Opportunity has been operational on the surface for over 12 years now, by the way), and you don't think that we're ever going to be able to build a city anywhere other than the Earth. Your sense of rationality is highly skewed.
I'm sad for you APK. I'm sad for what you've become. Here, I'll play along to hopefully help you feel better.
Oh, geez! Man, I hope people don't click on that link you posted! Boy, am I embarrassed! All of those quotes about how fantastic and professional your software is, and how people love you as a person, make me really look goofy! Oh, shucks. Man, I've really been thoroughly defeated, and I feel a great and burdensome sense of shame (not just on me, but indeed upon my entire extended family). You have really put me in my place APK, and clearly everyone on Slashdot recognizes and understands that you are an upstanding genius who only makes Slashdot better, while my entire life has no value. I am going to immediately cancel all internet services, destroy all of my electronic devices, donate my property to hungry children, and go live the life of a recluse monk in Nepal seeking a way to atone for all that I've done.
I'm happy to compete, because I have a system that is more effective, easier to use, as well as cheaper. My solution only costs $1.1 million, and I will furnish 10,000 coins. Instead of bulky, heavy quarters my system uses a copper-plated zinc coin that is both smaller and lighter than a quarter, resulting in less physical strain in the workforce. The obverse depicts the profile of a man, while the reverse is of a rectangular building which cannot be confused with the obverse. In addition, my system contains all of the benefits of your system, with a 500% increase in deployment size, at a substantial cost savings to the taxpayer.
Right, this has nothing to do with the security of the extension repository and everything to do with yet another example of advertisers getting their hands on something and then shitting all over it. This is what advertisers do, they suck up all of the data they can, sell it, and show ads. What's missing from this story is the naming and shaming of the advertising company in question, and a condemnation from other advertisers that their industry should not engage in this kind of shady crap. I wouldn't hold my breath for those though.
At least the original author is doing his part after he realized what happened:
I'm going to alert as many users as I can that it has been compromised. I still have access to the mailing list (it was not part of the sale). Will be sending them a message with details.
That comment deserves to be modded up, there are definitely models which don't require advertising and anyone who believes that advertising is a great thing that powers the internet is delusional. Advertising networks spread malware, and that's a fact. The advertising industry is a drain on the internet, not its savior. How much internet traffic is devoted to spam email, again? Imagine how fast things would be if all of the spam instantly stopped. Imagine how fast things would be if the traffic pipes weren't pushing video ads all over the place. Advertising is a drain, not a benefit.
You want proof? I've seen about 10 posts in this thread so far from some guy apparently pushing a Thai porn site (does no one have mod points or something?). Is that guy a benefit to this thread, or to Slashdot in general? No, he's not. He's just a spammer leeching on the rest of us. Advertisers will always find a way to shit all over something good if they think there's money for them in it.
Yeah, idiot, just make friends with farmers. Gasoline farmers, rental property farmers, bread farmers, beer farmers, insurance farmers, electricity farmers, sewage treatment farmers, trash can farmers. You know, farmers! When it's time to pay your mortgage you put a gold bar in an envelope and send it to your lender. If they don't want to accept it just tell them to make friends with farmers.
Little known fact: you can send many things through the mail service without needing packaging. You can just write your name and account number directly on the gold bar, the address of your lender, put some stamps on it, and drop it right in the mailbox.
"The unfortunate math?" Why is the math so unlucky? Why are we leaving it that way?
I have a hypothesis of my own. My hypothesis is that the people who modded OP up based on the suggestion that the center of the earth's orbit is far from the sun's center of mass (and, indeed, that it has recently changed) are the same kinds of people who think that climate scientists have no idea what they're talking about.
This is a joke hypothesis, right? You're not actually suggesting that the Earth no longer orbits the sun, but a point "below" the sun?
They couldn't just drop it for no reason if they thought they weren't going to win at the Supreme Court. They were already pushing the narrative that there was a national security interest, that maybe they can prevent another terrorist attack, think of the children, etc. They can't just back off that once they say those are the reasons. They needed a conclusion, they couldn't just drop it. Now they have a conclusion, so now they'll back off. I fully expect to hear no more about any information that they may have gotten from that phone.
Nope.
Yep. If a force is pushing the object towards the earth then even when that force is no longer acting on the object it will continue moving in the same direction. It will only stop if another force acts to stop it from moving relative to the earth.
Unless your orbit is low enough to experience atmospheric drag, *any* orbit is going to be stable, with a fixed period.
Look at the graph in the tweet. Does the period look fixed or does it look like it is very slightly decreasing over time? The vast majority of things that we launch have orbits which degrade. Even the ISS orbit degrades and they periodically use propellant to push it back a little higher.
Here's a tweet that shows a sudden change in orbital period. That could be consistent with an impact pushing it slightly closer to the planet. That's a small change, I think the Y axis on that graph is orbital period in minutes, so it only represents a change of about 2 seconds. Even so, it's obviously noticeable. Although it's a little odd that it didn't keep changing that quickly. If an impact pushed it into a slightly lower orbit it wouldn't just stop there, it would keep falling. Although maybe the impact came from the rear and it just slightly sped up the satellite. If the speed slightly increased then that should result in a 1-time drop in the orbital period.
If it were hit by a meteor coming from outside Earth orbit, the parts wouldn't be in quite the same area as the satellite afterwards, right?
I think that a micro-meteor would punch a hole right through it. If that hole passes through something like a tank or bottle of gas then that would cause a problem.
I think an anti-satellite missile would result in more than 5 pieces. Although the tweet referenced in the summary states 2 breakup events, one resulting in 5 pieces and the other in 21 pieces. And for some reason it seems to conclude that the 2 events are unrelated. While it would be interesting if it were struck by either a natural object or debris, it sounds like the events are actually related and that it experienced an onboard failure. Or, the second breakup event could have also been caused by the first.
Females is women and girls abbreviated.
Right, it's just common parlance. Like when you're going camping with your friends and their sons, everyone says "bye honey, I'm going to go hang out with the males."
Find out for yourself
That's your favorite tactic, APK, taking an insult and just pushing it right back. That's the "I know you are but what am I" style of argument that you haven't grown out of yet. There are a lot of things that you still retain from elementary school, that's one of them.
This is what you're down to. It's sad, you used to be a troll on an epic level and now you hide behind anonymous posts only speaking about yourself in the third person. I miss the old APK. I guess he's gone though, due to the changes at Slashdot. Now you're relegated to anonymous shit posting. The end of an era...
Responding to this crap actually depresses me at this point, it's sad what you've come to. Take care, formerly-epic troll. Better luck with a new site, I guess.
No, what's pathetic is that you are posting anonymously to support yourself, because you have no support from anyone else. You're crowing about still being able to post, and then you hide like a little bitch and act like no one knows it's you posting. You have never won an argument against me, you have never made me "eat my words" on any point of fact. Your little stream of quotes is pathetic, and so are you. Grow up kid.
It looks like the comment is moderated funny, and I agree.
Don't look now, but the hipster might be you.
Pathetic. You're not even worth responding to now.
You might want to try that insult again, in English this time please.
This is what you're down to APK, anonymous posts with dumb meaningless non-insults. Your declaration of victory has fallen so much that you are now claiming victory just by your continued ability to post. The bar with you has dropped very very low. You won't even sign your posts anymore. I genuinely wonder why you even bother posting here if this is all you're doing.
Reread that comment that you like to link to so much, APK. Not a single one of those quotes is saying that someone likes you. There are a few saying you're not entirely incorrect about hosts files, there are a few that say that your program isn't complete shit, and one person saying he likes your spam. No one likes you.
You're going to critique the writing by starting your post with "the summaries are terrible here anymore"? OK, whatever.