there is plenty of monetary incentive. Not for the trolls though, but the myminicity.com folks are cleaning up on this.
What I'm worried about is the 200 copycats that will give fools gold to their users in return for harassment of the rest of the online population.
The days of anonymous posting will be over soon if this trend continues, and that gets me because some of the best stuff on/. is sent in by anonymous cowards.
I wonder what the gray areas on that map are, the map seems to have a lot of it that is not filled in.
Also (from personal experience) I'd say the canadian situation is (much) worse than it appears to be from the information in the article. For instance, insurance companies in Canada have access to law enforcement data and there is lots of racial profiling by the police in Canada.
Some guy comes and asks an honest question. Then people go and tell him that can't be right and then go and give all kinds of suggestions taking into account that he isn't right.
Let's just for a second assume that the OP has a dataset that large. I can easily imagine it:
- complicated physics model - computational biology problem - datamining
and any one of a thousand other not so trivial computational problems.
If his 'luck' is the problem is not trivially parallelizable (I hope that's spelled right) then he's got two choices:
1) try to set up some kind of pipeline 2) get a single machine that can handle all the data
Apparently he has chosen for door #2 because that seems to be just about feasible.
There are some top of the line dell machines that will hold up to 128G of ram, the R900 series.
not sure if a corporation can have a soul, but you really have to wonder. Novell didn't have any single instance of *anything* on the books that they could get that kind of money for if it wasn't associated with unix/linux somehow. It certainly wasn't netware licenses:)
it wasn't meant as a plug (if it would be I would have made it my sig a long time ago), apologies. And as far as the pricepoint is concerned it's stiff but as long as enough people are prepared to pay it it's good enough for me:)
The bad thing (I thought I explained it properly) is that myminicity.com rewards its users for traffic sent to specific links by making that the whole goal of the game. The end result is that users will go through all kinds of idiocy in order to trick traffic to 'their' myminicity pages.
It's a deplorable marketing strategy if there ever was one, to encourage your users to misbehave on other websites, and I think it should be stamped out before it becomes popular.
the thing that really ticked me off is when they stopped using the direct links but started abusing tinyurl and dwarfurl and social engineering to cloak the links, it would be about 20 minutes of coding and testing for the/code guys to fix that (show you the end-target of a redirected link) which would at least stop the social engineering attempts.
The biggest problem is it works, check myminicity.com on http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/myminicity.com alexa. If this is encouraged it won't be long before you get 100's of these clowns drowning out all normal conversation. We've already lost usenet and email to spam, I'll be damned if linkspam is going to kill online fora, kill them while they're small. Set an example. I'm sure if the original inventors of spam email had their offices burned to the ground on day #2 of their enlightened campaign it would have set back the idea of mass mailings a couple of years.
Also,/. isn't the only forum that is being pestered like this, I already saw myminicity.com links in other places. If their business model is to harness their users into linkspamming I think they deserve to go down in flames.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
For starters I've placed one on http://ww.com/ , feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
For starters I've placed one on http://ww.com/ , feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
For starters I've placed a tag on the http://ww.com/ homepage, feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
For starters I've placed one on http://ww.com/ , feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
no, I'm going to 'help' them a bit and get them kicked off minicity. The weak point is they give us a link... so the beneficiary is known, even if not by name. It seems they're desperate to get some traffic to those links, ok, I'm game.
What's wrong with sending your co-workers an sms ? I don't need an 'agent' for that. Also, that pesky AI thing is a little harder than getting duke-nukem-forever to be finally written. And once wonderboy has blown all his $ at playing rocket scientist he'll be more or less forced to get back to work so there is a good incentive to eventually get it done, AI is pure research, not copycat stuff (or a silly game).
I think something completely different is what is usually mentioned. I think the big change is simply driven by going from a market dictated market to a consumer dictated market. In other words, we don't want it your way, we want it our way. At whatever pricepoint we think is reasonable (probably somewhere around $0.10 per song) and in whatever format we want.
As long as that doesn't happen piracy is here to stay, and when it does happen you have to hope that the piracy infrastructure is not so well entrenched that people will not even bother to switch to legal stuff anymore. The longer the wait the larger the chance that the music industry will not survive.
If a significantly large portion of the population commits a crime (say going 20 km above the speed limit) it technically still is a crime but the actual enforcement is no longer feasible. That only works when the percentage of criminals to honest citizens is small enough to warrant enforcement. Past that point the judicial system simply breaks down.
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there is plenty of monetary incentive. Not for the trolls though, but the myminicity.com folks are cleaning up on this.
/. is sent in by anonymous cowards.
What I'm worried about is the 200 copycats that will give fools gold to their users in return for harassment of the rest of the online population.
The days of anonymous posting will be over soon if this trend continues, and that gets me because some of the best stuff on
I wonder what the gray areas on that map are, the map seems to have a lot of it that is not filled in.
Also (from personal experience) I'd say the canadian situation is (much) worse than it appears to be from the information in the article. For instance, insurance companies in Canada have access to law enforcement data and there is lots of racial profiling by the police in Canada.
It's such a pity you wrote that as an AC, but that's what reading at -1 is for... I'd love for you to be credited for your idea.
Only one question why stop at doctors ? Lets *ALL* do this.
Just for one minute think about the space program you could have had for the cost of the Iraq war...
Not to even think about all the tech spin-offs and basic industrial advances.
you forgot the hang, drown, quarter and keel-haul bits...
I love that attitude...
Some guy comes and asks an honest question. Then people go and tell him that can't be right and then go and give all kinds of suggestions taking into account that he isn't right.
Let's just for a second assume that the OP has a dataset that large. I can easily imagine it:
- complicated physics model
- computational biology problem
- datamining
and any one of a thousand other not so trivial computational problems.
If his 'luck' is the problem is not trivially parallelizable (I hope that's spelled right) then he's got two choices:
1) try to set up some kind of pipeline
2) get a single machine that can handle all the data
Apparently he has chosen for door #2 because that seems to be just about feasible.
There are some top of the line dell machines that will hold up to 128G of ram, the R900 series.
not sure if a corporation can have a soul, but you really have to wonder. Novell didn't have any single instance of *anything* on the books that they could get that kind of money for if it wasn't associated with unix/linux somehow. It certainly wasn't netware licenses :)
water boarding passes ?
there is sort of a distributed attack on the a-holes you can join on screwminicity.com
more myminicity shit
I'm bookmarking this thread just in case it ever happen.
it wasn't meant as a plug (if it would be I would have made it my sig a long time ago), apologies. And as far as the pricepoint is concerned it's stiff but as long as enough people are prepared to pay it it's good enough for me :)
The bad thing (I thought I explained it properly) is that myminicity.com rewards its users for traffic sent to specific links by making that the whole goal of the game. The end result is that users will go through all kinds of idiocy in order to trick traffic to 'their' myminicity pages.
It's a deplorable marketing strategy if there ever was one, to encourage your users to misbehave on other websites, and I think it should be stamped out before it becomes popular.
the thing that really ticked me off is when they stopped using the direct links but started abusing tinyurl and dwarfurl and social engineering to cloak the links, it would be about 20 minutes of coding and testing for the /code guys to fix that (show you the end-target of a redirected link) which would at least stop the social engineering attempts.
/. isn't the only forum that is being pestered like this, I already saw myminicity.com links in other places. If their business model is to harness their users into linkspamming I think they deserve to go down in flames.
The biggest problem is it works, check myminicity.com on http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/myminicity.com alexa. If this is encouraged it won't be long before you get 100's of these clowns drowning out all normal conversation. We've already lost usenet and email to spam, I'll be damned if linkspam is going to kill online fora, kill them while they're small. Set an example. I'm sure if the original inventors of spam email had their offices burned to the ground on day #2 of their enlightened campaign it would have set back the idea of mass mailings a couple of years.
Also,
Ok, myminicity .com assholes. Playtime is over.
.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity
For starters I've placed one on http://ww.com/ , feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
Ok, myminicity .com assholes. Playtime is over.
.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity
For starters I've placed one on http://ww.com/ , feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
Ok, myminicity .com assholes. Playtime is over.
.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity
For starters I've placed a tag on the http://ww.com/ homepage, feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
Ok, myminicity .com assholes. Playtime is over.
.com people hopefully more traffic than they were bargaining for.
I've really had it with the myminicity.com crowd, and to put a stop to this nonsense I've set up a little website.
Stop posting your myminicity links here and elsewhere, if myminicity.com wants to grow they can surely find a way to do it without inconveniencing others.
If you don't then I'm calling on the rest of the audience here to report those links to the site above and if they want to help a little further to place a 1 pixel image tag on their website which will give the myminicity
For starters I've placed one on http://ww.com/ , feel free to come and help.
This is just another spam wave and if this doesn't get stopped now then it will be seen as a vindication of the principle and before long there will be 100's of sites doing this.
Rewarding your users for bad behaviour has to be one of the most annoying marketing tactics that has ever been devised.
kinda hard without a physical location, but yes, I agree with you that would be a nicer solution alltogether.
no, I'm going to 'help' them a bit and get them kicked off minicity. The weak point is they give us a link... so the beneficiary is known, even if not by name. It seems they're desperate to get some traffic to those links, ok, I'm game.
I'm working on a little surprise for the minicity jerks.
stay tuned.
I really so hope you are wrong but I can't find much fault with it, some of this stuff is well under way.
What's wrong with sending your co-workers an sms ? I don't need an 'agent' for that. Also, that pesky AI thing is a little harder than getting duke-nukem-forever to be finally written. And once wonderboy has blown all his $ at playing rocket scientist he'll be more or less forced to get back to work so there is a good incentive to eventually get it done, AI is pure research, not copycat stuff (or a silly game).
fix typo... would be nice if you could edit your posting for 2 minutes or so ;) (yes, I'm aware of 'preview')
first sentence should have read:
I think something completely different is going on than what is usually mentioned.
lol, mod that up please...
I think something completely different is what is usually mentioned. I think the big change is simply driven by going from a market dictated market to a consumer dictated market. In other words, we don't want it your way, we want it our way. At whatever pricepoint we think is reasonable (probably somewhere around $0.10 per song) and in whatever format we want.
As long as that doesn't happen piracy is here to stay, and when it does happen you have to hope that the piracy infrastructure is not so well entrenched that people will not even bother to switch to legal stuff anymore. The longer the wait the larger the chance that the music industry will not survive.
If a significantly large portion of the population commits a crime (say going 20 km above the speed limit) it technically still is a crime but the actual enforcement is no longer feasible. That only works when the percentage of criminals to honest citizens is small enough to warrant enforcement. Past that point the judicial system simply breaks down.
you should also factor in the disposal costs of the batteries, that probably is the largest factor.