the tools we had were the Leventhal 6809 book, we wrote the disassembler (and the assembler) ourselves, to make it a little easier to relate to I said color computer but in fact it was a very little known clone called the Dragon 32 (which, incidentally as we found out had 64K that you could use if you pulled a few tricks).
I wished I had known about OS/9 at the time (but this was long before the age of easy access to information and in Europe).
But hey, why am I feeding the trolls... anonymous ones at that:)
I guess it is because I wonder what has become of the software scene that we now have f'ing laws that stop kids from being curious and looking 'inside the box'.
somewhere around 1982 a buddy of mine and myself disassembled and commented microsoft's basic for the trs-80 color computer. Then we improved it with tons of new statements via the hook in ram. Documenting a bloody calculator is childs play compared to that and we weren't especially proud of it, just curious.
he's asking for a bugfix in vista, which is supposedly backwards compatible.
Imagine all this in a traffic analogy: "Gee, a car that is 6 years old can't drive across a bridge from 2007 ? And the company that built the car doesn't even want to support it to accomodate the new 'cross the bridge' function, geee, that's a shocker
the shocker really is that you're so ready to accept this.
Is a great theoretical concept, but unfortunately it only makes sense in the context of assuming that everybody really thinks for themselves. As soon as the media enter into the equation the crowd becomes as manipulatable as the most stupid upper limit that can still be sold a bill of goods. If that's > 50% then the equation no longer holds, no matter how much the rest invests in staying educated. You'd almost have to filter out media bias somehow because otherwise anybody with an agenda and some money to burn will come out on top. Witness politics, marketing of unnecssary goods and services and so on.
The Australian government takes itself far too serious. Australia has some of the most draconian privacy / internet laws on the book and the populace does not doe much about it because it doesn't involve them directly (yet). Little by little freedoms are eroded.
There was a nice analogy once about this, I don't know if I read it here or not but someone said that if you drop a frog in a pot of really hot water it will jump out immediately. If you drop a frog in a pot of cold water and then slowly raise the temperature you can boil the frog. Not sure if it is a real experiment (it would be pretty cruel on the frog) but it makes the point nicely why you should not allow any 'creep' on issues like this.
fortunately this would never happen in Europe or the USA;)
follow the money is an excellent principle but it really does not apply to the case at hand.
These people were spying abroad, no point in tracing the money. Throwing the book at them would be a better alternative, surely there are records of who went where and when.
well, I'm not in the USA but in Europe and I worked for a bank here for a while (a daughter of Chase Manhattan) and we would readily admit mistakes and fix them.
But then again, people here are not as sue happy so maybe that's why owning up to a mistake is not such a big deal here.
One year the interest computations were off by a bit and the whole run had to be done again, all the customers received a nice letter explaining the problem and what was being done about it and it blew over without any problem.
But instead of the IT department getting the blame the customers and reps blamed the *computer*.... go figure.
Holy smokes, that is probably the single most relevant piece of information that I have *ever* come across on slashdot.
If this is true then not only is the stockmarket in serious danger, it may also mean that to 'beat the market' now means to 'beat google', and you had better not use google as a research tool if you're an investment banker (I'm pretty sure that's an easy profile to make) or the game is up....
As for the search profile study that was AOL's blunder, and after examining the data that AOL provided in some detail (several weeks worth of work) I am absolutely amazed at how privacy invasive this stuff is.
That is why I'm eagerly awaiting a competitor to the big G that has a really strong privacy statement.
If the quality is anywhere near comparable I'll switch in a heartbeat. But I do not doubt that I'd be one of very few people to do so. Not because I have something to hide, just because I have seen what you could do with that data.
Even for the example you give I would not need to know *who* made those searches.
There are two good reasons to keep the data, as far as I can see, the first is to avoid sending the same ad to someone twice (but for that you only need a history of what ads they've seen, not what they have searched for, though of course that does help to tag a user as a 'programmer' or an 'accountant'), the second is when you go in to the massive selling of profiles business.
There are some companies that do this (Schober comes to mind, there is an 'umlaut' over the o but I have no idea how to put it there...), and if google would ever decide to augment their revenues like this to make the next 3 month target then we are all going to be in for a lot of trouble from DM people.
I think I'll hack a network sniffer to record my own searches for a few weeks and see what kind of profile you could build up from there, I'm actually pretty curious about that.
A while ago a coup happened in Fiji, the wikipedia entry pretty much reflected events on the ground as they progressed, I thought it was pretty amazing that it took the 'real' news services sometimes more than a few days to catch up with the situation.
it doesn't have to, after all the targetted ads are supposedly targetted to the *content* of the pages and your search query. No need to keep that for two years in order to target it better unless you have other plans with my data (such as selling my 'profile').
very interesting, I'm curious if that's ever going to be accessible in a mainstream way.
btw there are harddrive images with about 160 G of billboards hot 100 over the last decades floating around, I think the RIAA is really underestimating the threat of the sneakernet.
- untraceable - much faster than the internet - no damaged files.
not to mention all those storage devices that are somehow selling above market value on sites like ebay (ipods too). Makes you wonder what's going on with that.
yes, but after all internet radio is just a format + a music storage device.
The media exchange does both in one single box. Why transmit music all the times when all you really need is the format spec once you have access to all the music.
It's uncanny how closely you can emulate certain radio stations if you have your music tagged properly.
that way instead of going to other countries you just go 'offline' until the current mess blows over or the RIAA decides that they want to survive long term after all, instead of twitching a bit and then falling over dead.
let's just say not having a single point of failure was a design feature because I didn't feel like becoming the focus of an attempt to shut down the 'network'. Also because it is not technically intended to do that (just like a hammer is not technically intended to be a weapon) I think there is some wiggle room.
But this advanced 'sneakernet' feature (which works just fine across the net as well, you basically only need to have two media exchanges near each other during the initial install, after that the traffic is fairly limited) is very useful. Just bring a media exchange along to a lan party and it takes care of itself.
Or you equip one with a wifi card and slap a 'media exchange point' sticker on a lamppost outside or something like that.
I'm sure people will be 'creative' with what they can do with it.
The real power of it will only come in to force when a number of islands of media echanges link up through a common user. That's when it'll start to cook.
Slashdot Mirror
that great bastion of freedom called the netherlands requires you to renounce any other citizenships as well.
I never really got it what the draw of anime is, can someone please enlighten me ?
:)
http://rndpic.com/ a total waste of time
the tools we had were the Leventhal 6809 book, we wrote the disassembler (and the assembler) ourselves,
:)
to make it a little easier to relate to I said color computer but in fact it was a very little known
clone called the Dragon 32 (which, incidentally as we found out had 64K that you could use if you
pulled a few tricks).
I wished I had known about OS/9 at the time (but this was long before the age of easy access to
information and in Europe).
But hey, why am I feeding the trolls... anonymous ones at that
I guess it is because I wonder what has become of the software scene that we now have f'ing laws
that stop kids from being curious and looking 'inside the box'.
somewhere around 1982 a buddy of mine and myself disassembled and commented microsoft's basic for the trs-80 color computer. Then we improved it with tons of new statements via the hook in ram. Documenting a bloody calculator is childs play compared to that and we weren't especially proud of it, just curious.
he's asking for a bugfix in vista, which is supposedly backwards compatible.
Imagine all this in a traffic analogy: "Gee, a car that is 6 years old can't drive across a bridge from 2007 ? And the company that built the car doesn't even want to support it to accomodate the new 'cross the bridge' function, geee, that's a shocker
the shocker really is that you're so ready to accept this.
Is a great theoretical concept, but unfortunately it only makes sense in the context of assuming that everybody really thinks for themselves. As soon as the media enter into the equation the crowd becomes as manipulatable as the most stupid upper limit that can still be sold a bill of goods. If that's > 50% then the equation no longer holds, no matter how much the rest invests in staying educated. You'd almost have to filter out media bias somehow because otherwise anybody with an agenda and some money to burn will come out on top. Witness politics, marketing of unnecssary goods and services and so on.
The Australian government takes itself far too serious. Australia has some of the most draconian privacy / internet laws on the book
;)
and the populace does not doe much about it because it doesn't involve them directly (yet). Little by little freedoms are eroded.
There was a nice analogy once about this, I don't know if I read it here or not but someone said that if you drop a frog in a pot of
really hot water it will jump out immediately. If you drop a frog in a pot of cold water and then slowly raise the temperature you
can boil the frog. Not sure if it is a real experiment (it would be pretty cruel on the frog) but it makes the point nicely why
you should not allow any 'creep' on issues like this.
fortunately this would never happen in Europe or the USA
you should weigh that by population for a meaningful comparison to be made.
follow the money is an excellent principle but it really does not apply to the case at hand.
These people were spying abroad, no point in tracing the money. Throwing the book at them
would be a better alternative, surely there are records of who went where and when.
well, I'm not in the USA but in Europe and I worked for a bank here for a while
(a daughter of Chase Manhattan) and we would readily admit mistakes and fix them.
But then again, people here are not as sue happy so maybe that's why owning up
to a mistake is not such a big deal here.
One year the interest computations were off by a bit and the whole run had to be
done again, all the customers received a nice letter explaining the problem and
what was being done about it and it blew over without any problem.
But instead of the IT department getting the blame the customers and reps blamed
the *computer*.... go figure.
j.
I had a primitive voip-pots gateway back in oh... 95 or so, hacked with speak-freely and some
old soundcard hardware. Worked pretty good too !
j.
How often is it that you are on the phone with an insurance company or a bank and they
tell you 'the computer made a mistake'.
That seems to be so ingrained in people that use computers but don't program them.
Because I was to go and travel to fiji someone in the australian government
inquired with the locals on our behalf.
So, yes, I did compare, both during and afterwards and that is what I base my
opinion on.
Even down to the 'these are live events' headers on the page in all it was a
remarkably neutral and cleanly reported event.
Check it out if you feel like, you can view the complete editing history,
then check out http://www.fijilive.com/ and http://www.fijitimes.com/ as
well as various international news sources.
best regards,
Jacques
obligatory first question from google to applicants:
How would you combat click fraud ?
Holy smokes, that is probably the single most relevant piece of information that I
have *ever* come across on slashdot.
If this is true then not only is the stockmarket in serious danger, it may also mean
that to 'beat the market' now means to 'beat google', and you had better not use
google as a research tool if you're an investment banker (I'm pretty sure that's an
easy profile to make) or the game is up....
amazing...
somebody *please* mod parent up
true enough, apologies.
As for the search profile study that was AOL's blunder, and after examining
the data that AOL provided in some detail (several weeks worth of work) I am
absolutely amazed at how privacy invasive this stuff is.
That is why I'm eagerly awaiting a competitor to the big G that has a really
strong privacy statement.
If the quality is anywhere near comparable I'll switch in a heartbeat. But I
do not doubt that I'd be one of very few people to do so. Not because I have
something to hide, just because I have seen what you could do with that data.
Even for the example you give I would not need to know *who* made those searches.
There are two good reasons to keep the data, as far as I can see, the first is to avoid sending
the same ad to someone twice (but for that you only need a history of what ads they've seen, not
what they have searched for, though of course that does help to tag a user as a 'programmer' or
an 'accountant'), the second is when you go in to the massive selling of profiles business.
There are some companies that do this (Schober comes to mind, there is an 'umlaut' over the
o but I have no idea how to put it there...), and if google would ever decide to augment
their revenues like this to make the next 3 month target then we are all going to be in for
a lot of trouble from DM people.
I think I'll hack a network sniffer to record my own searches for a few weeks and see what
kind of profile you could build up from there, I'm actually pretty curious about that.
A while ago a coup happened in Fiji, the wikipedia entry pretty much reflected events on the ground as they progressed, I thought it was pretty amazing that it took the 'real' news services sometimes more than a few days to catch up with the situation.
it doesn't have to, after all the targetted ads are supposedly targetted to the *content* of the pages and your search query. No need to keep that for two years in order to target it better unless you have other plans with my data (such as selling my 'profile').
I never got why google needs to keep all that history without anonymizing it.
There is - as far as I can see - no rational argument that has to do with improving search results because you have them tied to individuals.
And yes, keeping tabs on half the globe is evil too...
I agree, theft is wrong.
very interesting, I'm curious if that's ever going to be accessible in a mainstream way.
btw there are harddrive images with about 160 G of billboards hot 100 over the last decades
floating around, I think the RIAA is really underestimating the threat of the sneakernet.
- untraceable
- much faster than the internet
- no damaged files.
not to mention all those storage devices that are somehow selling above market value
on sites like ebay (ipods too). Makes you wonder what's going on with that.
yes, but after all internet radio is just a format + a music storage device.
The media exchange does both in one single box. Why transmit music all the times when
all you really need is the format spec once you have access to all the music.
It's uncanny how closely you can emulate certain radio stations if you have
your music tagged properly.
Sky radio: 20% new, 20% evergreens, 20% 70's hits, 20% 80's hits 20% 90's hits...
generate, create new playlist, done...
that way instead of going to other countries you just go 'offline' until the
current mess blows over or the RIAA decides that they want to survive long
term after all, instead of twitching a bit and then falling over dead.
the first time I read about the RIAA was when I was building a record player pre-amplifier.
:)
If I had known at the time what I was getting involved with I would have left it at a
flat curve
But I think that another 10 years or so should see the end of them as a relevant entitiy,
they won't go without a fight though, that's for sure.
let's just say not having a single point of failure was a design feature because I didn't
feel like becoming the focus of an attempt to shut down the 'network'. Also because it is
not technically intended to do that (just like a hammer is not technically intended to be
a weapon) I think there is some wiggle room.
But this advanced 'sneakernet' feature (which works just fine across the net as well, you
basically only need to have two media exchanges near each other during the initial install,
after that the traffic is fairly limited) is very useful. Just bring a media exchange along
to a lan party and it takes care of itself.
Or you equip one with a wifi card and slap a 'media exchange point' sticker on a lamppost
outside or something like that.
I'm sure people will be 'creative' with what they can do with it.
The real power of it will only come in to force when a number of islands of media echanges
link up through a common user. That's when it'll start to cook.