No, but that does bring an idea to mind. How about a bunch of people install Windows 7 on computers, which should take about an hour, then spend the rest of the night getting drunk and finding new exploits?
You could even have a door prize for the person accumulates the most.
The rules would be simple, install Windows 7 and follow the default prompts, then see how well you can penetrate. The browser used will be internet explorer, and you are allowed to direct the computer to a website to exploit it.
To give it some measure of security, also install a trial copy of norton internet security on it.
Now, All anyone has to do is market the idea of grassroots hacker parties. I am sure Microsoft would love it.
I think you are overestimating what happens. I hear from people all the time how they "know" the've been hacked because things like some mysterious service host "svchost" is taking over their system in the task manager.
It would be nice not to have a constant deluge of viruses to clean up, but this ain't gonna happen.
The funny thing is, I am running Windows XP on one of my computers and it has no active anti-virus program on it, and I have never been infected with a virus in the three years that computer has been running.
However, the CDC is pretty much at the center of the US health system. To quote from their website,
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, is the primary Federal agency for conducting and supporting public health activities in the United States.
While it may not be the whole health system, referring someone to the Center for Disease Control is the closest you will get to a single point of contact for the entire US health system. They are tied into every hospital in America, so its not too far out of reach to think that when the CDC releases a statement, it is acting as a representative for the "US Health System"
Sorry, but the myth about the ozone layer in Antarctica being caused by a volcano is just that, a myth.
The original idea was a what-if hypothesis that was hatched by a geologist. A different right wing nut job named R.A. Maduro with a bachelors degree in geology wrote a book about it, claiming the whole CFC causing the ozone layer was a plot by the DuPont company to make money on CFC replacements, conveniently forgetting that DuPont was the world leader in creating CFC's in the first place.
When you claim to debunk science, please have your facts in order and don't spread right wing fantasy bunk as scientific truth.
My source for claiming that CFC's depleted the ozone layer is F. Sherwood Rowland, an atmospheric chemist and winner of the 1995 Nobel Prize in chemistry.
I don't know about that, I understand it completely. It is a very old solution to a debilitative disease. A Roman man would be expected to fall on his sword, rather than drain the life out of his family while they worry and care for him as he fades away into darkness.
To quote Hunter S Thompson's famous suicide note
"Football Season Is Over"
"No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun â" for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax â" This won't hurt."
In the end, the only thing a man has is his own life. Shouldn't he have the right to choose the way he leaves it?
We in America have a long tradition of distrusting our politicians. I believe this is a generally sound principle as most politicians resemble the results of a well used petri dish.
That being said, we don't all believe that this is some conspiracy in order to tax us. However, we do believe that the government will use this as an excuse to tax the ever living crap out of use. It isn't necessarily all some conspiracy to tax us, but we are pretty sure it will end up with us having to hand over part of our livers to the government every year to pay for this.
And don't come at me with some argument about Cap and Trade not ending up costing more. It doesn't matter whether it will transform industry or not, only that the government will make use of this to insert their sticky fingers deeper into our wallets.
Paranoiad? Yeah, probably, but we have a tax on telephone service that dates back to the Spanish American War. So it isn't that big of a stretch to imagine our government bending us over and giving us a long hard tax over and over again.
I didn't read your article at all, but I am sure I can have a fully formed opinion on its validity. After all this is the Internet. And it doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree. Its just that I must be right - cause this is the Internet.
Are you a complete fucktard? Chlorofluorocarbons were most certainly damaging the Earth's ozone layer, and banning those same CFC's is certainly benefiting the ozone layer. All the scientists are saying is that Nitrous Oxide is currently the most damaging pollutant to the ozone layer.
I mean really, there was never any real doubt about the impact on the ozone layer by CFC's, and the scientists are saying that some of the damage to that layer is repairing itself. You can doubt what the end result of a damaged ozone layer would be, but the fact that ozone levels began to rapidly deplete isn't in doubt. Neither is the fact that the ozone layer insulates the surface of the planet from UV-B radiation.
Sorry, but the scientists weren't making it up, and the fact that you are so filled with ass-hat ignorance as to be certain of some bullshit conspiracy among scientists should help to convince anyone on the fence about global warning that people like you are just idiots without a freaking clue.
The problem is that the word should doesn't apply to reality. I listened to the whole presentation, and all that DoD was saying is that Peer 2 Peer applications, such as bearshare, limewire, kazaa, shareaza, and bittorrent are often used to illegally download copyrighted materials. Doing so is a security risk, as p2p can compromise the security of your computer.
This is true. I would say that the vast majority of the viruses and other malware I clear off my customer's computers come from limewire or bearshare, this isn't exactly news.
And the submission isn't entirely accurate either. The DoD is NOT saying that all music downloads are illegal, and the "Thats stealing" was one of four responses to a hypothetical coworker telling you about a website he found that offers free music downloads.
The government in this case was just trying to give an introductory lecture on IT security that would be accessed by non-technical people. Those same non-technical people are the ones I support every night, who have limewire on their computer and can't understand why it is so slow. Then, when I clear a couple hundred viruses and other malware of their computer, they are surprised at how the computer got infected in the first place They ask questions like:
How did I get infected, I got the Norton on my computer??
This presentation was aimed precisely at those people, and it is trying to educate those people on basic security fundamentals.
So, I don't find this presentation as being badly done at all. It presents basic information security in an interactive format designed to let people know what to avoid, I think it was rather well done. And, as for it being flash heavy, it is an entire lecture being delivered in flash format, of course it is going to take up space. The site does exactly what it is meant to do, deliver a long, interactive flash presentation.
That's a bunch of crap, just because you are jonesing for a fix, doesn't make you stop taking simple precautions. Sure there are stupid criminals, but taking drugs, especiallly stimulants, tends to make you kind of paranoid. They would probably be more likely to scan the area for cameras.
You seem to think that people suffering withdrawal are little more than zombies, unable to think about what they are doing.
In reply, let me quote to you the posting itself. not even the fucking article.
report published in PLoS Medicine by a team led by Harvard's Majid Ezzati, adding that 'study results are troubling because an oft-stated aim of the US health system is the improvement of the health of "all people, and especially those at greater risk of health disparities.'"
If that wasn't clear enough, you could click on the link, and find the citation used in the article. To make it easy for you, I will post the cited link myself for your benefit. It is the Center for Disease Control's Strategic Imperatives
To save you time, it states
"All people, and especially those at greater risk of health disparities, will achieve their optimal lifespan with the best possible quality of health in every stage of life."
I would fully reply to your trolling but I just don't have the energy to do it right now.
Life expectancy and infant mortality are used quite often to compare the relative health of different countries. I will quote from the article.
Though the United States has by far the highest level of health care spending per capita in the world, we have one of the lowest life expectancies among developed nations â" lower than Italy, Spain and Cuba and just a smidgeon ahead of Chile, Costa Rica and Slovenia, according to the United Nations. China does almost as well as we do. Japan tops the list at 83 years.
You are bitching that this post is right from the Democratic party talking points. I would ask you, how is it that we pay more for health care "per capita" (that means per person, since you trolls often fail to understand things) yet have a lower life expectancy that fucking CUBA?
It seems to me that when your health care system is that inefficient, the common sense thing to do is fix it. Yet the idea to try and fix an obviously broken health care system is denounced as DNC talking points.
There are poor and disadvantaged in every country, and people in every country in the world make bad decisions, like substance abuse or an XBOX?!? (I didn't know the XBOX played a major role in our health care woes, but whatever.)
The point is that every country has its disadvantaged, yet America's disadvantaged are further disadvantaged by bad health care. And everyone in America pays higher prices per person for health care. Even those perfect people like you who don't make bad decisions.
This IS news for nerds, and it is a valid science article about health. It is a serious problem, and trolling it won't make your Republican talking points any more true.
Don't forget the Body Mass Index is inherently flawed. While I don't disagree that Americans are getting more overweight, using the BMI is a bad tool to measure this. Any tool that would measure Olympic athletes as obese should not be taken seriously.
This was a well put together response to the typical whining academic. As a student now back in college at the tender age if 38, I can recognize the dismissive tone with which college professors have approached students and to my lack of surprise it hasn't changed since I first touched a college campus when I was 17.
The fact is, most people in college are going because without that piece of paper, they are screwed. It doesn't matter whether they learn, it only matters that when their resume hits the inbox of the human resources department, it states that there is a college degree. It doesn't really even matter if the degree matches the job you are applying for.
That sad truth, that the degree you study for doesn't make a difference in the REAL world, is why you have students looking at you with blank stares. You want them to look at education as some sort of mystical mind opening experience. It isn't. They know, as you should no doubt be aware, Mr. Academic, that only the piece of paper really matters. That piece of paper is why they are mortgaging their future, betting an insane amount of money on the fact that the piece of paper your college gives them will enable them to live a life of prosperity. The few out there going to college for the love of learning are to be both praised and condemned. They should be praised for approaching the chance to learn with reverence, and they should be condemned for not approaching college realistically.
You are right, it is a fucked system. I would think investing $95,000 and four years of effort should result in some sort of return. This person you are yelling about is going to have a house payment following them for 10 or 20 years. It is a house payment they can't avoid, either through bankruptcy or just dodging the payment. It is a house payment that can be garnished out of wages. We call education an investment, but if you had investments like this in the financial world you would end up with a case like Bernie Madoff.
I assume you are advocating the Republican Party, since the majority of today's youth went Democratic in the last election. Let's look at that. First, the Republican's nominated someone for president old enough to be the great grandfather of some of today's freshmen voters. The much talked about "Young Republicans" elected a 38 year old person accused of blatant racism as their leader. That is the Republican youth organization? If you are complaining about the poltical leanings of today's youth, then you need to look what the Republican Party looks like to a young, racially diverse generation that grew up with technology as part of their daily lives. Twenty years ago Intel released the 80486 processor. I remember owning a 386, 286 and yes an 8088. Their world is not the same as yours. An eighteen year old, for instance, has never known a world before The Simpsons, since it was first shown in 1989. They have always had mobile game systems, since the Gameboy was first produced in 1989.
The Republican Party is a party of older, reactionary people who seem to be filled with fear. The accusations of racism sticks really easily to the Party, especially when you consider that McCain voted against the creation of the Martin Luther King Jr, and supported its revocation years later. I can't tell you just how many times I have heard jokes about watermelons in the white house since that election, but it is depressingly all too common among the white conservatives in Texas. Why do you think the youth went over to the Democratic Party?
Yeah, I can relate to this post. I and my wife both lost our tech jobs in 2001, mine right before 9/11, and hers the week after. I was laid off because the tech economy was basically fucked, and my wife's company got gobbled up by a foreign firm, who then scrapped basically the entire workforce.
I looked for work until my unemployment ran out, then worked in a warehouse for 7 bucks an hour, my wife had gotten pregnant at the beginning of this saga, and was unemployable, especially since she had a difficult pregnancy.
We lost our home, our cars, our credit cards, and ended up renting a townhome next door to a couple of crack houses.
Through no fault of our own, our credit was absolutely destroyed and has never recovered, since once you are in that scenario it is difficult in the extreme to pull yourself up. And yes, I have been denied several good paying jobs due to bad credit. As a result, 8 years later, I am still trying to pull my credit back up.
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No, but that does bring an idea to mind. How about a bunch of people install Windows 7 on computers, which should take about an hour, then spend the rest of the night getting drunk and finding new exploits?
You could even have a door prize for the person accumulates the most.
The rules would be simple, install Windows 7 and follow the default prompts, then see how well you can penetrate. The browser used will be internet explorer, and you are allowed to direct the computer to a website to exploit it.
To give it some measure of security, also install a trial copy of norton internet security on it.
Now, All anyone has to do is market the idea of grassroots hacker parties. I am sure Microsoft would love it.
Leave a trail?
I think you are overestimating what happens. I hear from people all the time how they "know" the've been hacked because things like some mysterious service host "svchost" is taking over their system in the task manager.
It would be nice not to have a constant deluge of viruses to clean up, but this ain't gonna happen.
The funny thing is, I am running Windows XP on one of my computers and it has no active anti-virus program on it, and I have never been infected with a virus in the three years that computer has been running.
Oh yeah, I don't run Internet explorer.
Yess....forcing consumers to listen to their music their way, and purchasing music their way.
One might even say they are trying to control things.
To quote from the webcomic Too Much Information
Wait... "They've automated stalking?!?"
Sorry, but that "memo" is bullshit, CFS's do in fact damage the ozone layer.
OOOOOOOPPSS! Someone posted as an anonymous coward and is a complete moron.
However, the CDC is pretty much at the center of the US health system. To quote from their website,
While it may not be the whole health system, referring someone to the Center for Disease Control is the closest you will get to a single point of contact for the entire US health system. They are tied into every hospital in America, so its not too far out of reach to think that when the CDC releases a statement, it is acting as a representative for the "US Health System"
Sorry, but the myth about the ozone layer in Antarctica being caused by a volcano is just that, a myth.
The original idea was a what-if hypothesis that was hatched by a geologist. A different right wing nut job named R.A. Maduro with a bachelors degree in geology wrote a book about it, claiming the whole CFC causing the ozone layer was a plot by the DuPont company to make money on CFC replacements, conveniently forgetting that DuPont was the world leader in creating CFC's in the first place.
When you claim to debunk science, please have your facts in order and don't spread right wing fantasy bunk as scientific truth.
My source for claiming that CFC's depleted the ozone layer is F. Sherwood Rowland, an atmospheric chemist and winner of the 1995 Nobel Prize in chemistry.
Who do you have on your side?
To quote Hunter S Thompson's famous suicide note
In the end, the only thing a man has is his own life. Shouldn't he have the right to choose the way he leaves it?
We in America have a long tradition of distrusting our politicians. I believe this is a generally sound principle as most politicians resemble the results of a well used petri dish.
That being said, we don't all believe that this is some conspiracy in order to tax us. However, we do believe that the government will use this as an excuse to tax the ever living crap out of use. It isn't necessarily all some conspiracy to tax us, but we are pretty sure it will end up with us having to hand over part of our livers to the government every year to pay for this.
And don't come at me with some argument about Cap and Trade not ending up costing more. It doesn't matter whether it will transform industry or not, only that the government will make use of this to insert their sticky fingers deeper into our wallets.
Paranoiad? Yeah, probably, but we have a tax on telephone service that dates back to the Spanish American War. So it isn't that big of a stretch to imagine our government bending us over and giving us a long hard tax over and over again.
I didn't read your article at all, but I am sure I can have a fully formed opinion on its validity. After all this is the Internet. And it doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree. Its just that I must be right - cause this is the Internet.
Are you a complete fucktard? Chlorofluorocarbons were most certainly damaging the Earth's ozone layer, and banning those same CFC's is certainly benefiting the ozone layer. All the scientists are saying is that Nitrous Oxide is currently the most damaging pollutant to the ozone layer.
I mean really, there was never any real doubt about the impact on the ozone layer by CFC's, and the scientists are saying that some of the damage to that layer is repairing itself. You can doubt what the end result of a damaged ozone layer would be, but the fact that ozone levels began to rapidly deplete isn't in doubt. Neither is the fact that the ozone layer insulates the surface of the planet from UV-B radiation.
Sorry, but the scientists weren't making it up, and the fact that you are so filled with ass-hat ignorance as to be certain of some bullshit conspiracy among scientists should help to convince anyone on the fence about global warning that people like you are just idiots without a freaking clue.
This is true. I would say that the vast majority of the viruses and other malware I clear off my customer's computers come from limewire or bearshare, this isn't exactly news.
And the submission isn't entirely accurate either. The DoD is NOT saying that all music downloads are illegal, and the "Thats stealing" was one of four responses to a hypothetical coworker telling you about a website he found that offers free music downloads.
The government in this case was just trying to give an introductory lecture on IT security that would be accessed by non-technical people. Those same non-technical people are the ones I support every night, who have limewire on their computer and can't understand why it is so slow. Then, when I clear a couple hundred viruses and other malware of their computer, they are surprised at how the computer got infected in the first place
They ask questions like:
This presentation was aimed precisely at those people, and it is trying to educate those people on basic security fundamentals.
So, I don't find this presentation as being badly done at all. It presents basic information security in an interactive format designed to let people know what to avoid, I think it was rather well done. And, as for it being flash heavy, it is an entire lecture being delivered in flash format, of course it is going to take up space. The site does exactly what it is meant to do, deliver a long, interactive flash presentation.
I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
Right and we can see how the Geek Squad has obviously failed to prosper due to their reprehensible activities.
That's a bunch of crap, just because you are jonesing for a fix, doesn't make you stop taking simple precautions. Sure there are stupid criminals, but taking drugs, especiallly stimulants, tends to make you kind of paranoid. They would probably be more likely to scan the area for cameras.
You seem to think that people suffering withdrawal are little more than zombies, unable to think about what they are doing.
No wonder they cure Internet addiction, after paying 15 grand, you couldn't even afford dial up.
If that wasn't clear enough, you could click on the link, and find the citation used in the article. To make it easy for you, I will post the cited link myself for your benefit.
It is the Center for Disease Control's Strategic Imperatives
To save you time, it states
I would fully reply to your trolling but I just don't have the energy to do it right now.
Life expectancy and infant mortality are used quite often to compare the relative health of different countries. I will quote from the article.
You are bitching that this post is right from the Democratic party talking points. I would ask you, how is it that we pay more for health care "per capita" (that means per person, since you trolls often fail to understand things) yet have a lower life expectancy that fucking CUBA?
It seems to me that when your health care system is that inefficient, the common sense thing to do is fix it. Yet the idea to try and fix an obviously broken health care system is denounced as DNC talking points.
There are poor and disadvantaged in every country, and people in every country in the world make bad decisions, like substance abuse or an XBOX?!? (I didn't know the XBOX played a major role in our health care woes, but whatever.)
The point is that every country has its disadvantaged, yet America's disadvantaged are further disadvantaged by bad health care. And everyone in America pays higher prices per person for health care. Even those perfect people like you who don't make bad decisions.
This IS news for nerds, and it is a valid science article about health. It is a serious problem, and trolling it won't make your Republican talking points any more true.
OH YEAH!! Explain the fucking EWOKS!!!!!
By way of George Lucas stealing every bit of creativity from Akira Kurasawa movies.
Don't forget the Body Mass Index is inherently flawed. While I don't disagree that Americans are getting more overweight, using the BMI is a bad tool to measure this. Any tool that would measure Olympic athletes as obese should not be taken seriously.
Alas, I have no mod points.
This was a well put together response to the typical whining academic. As a student now back in college at the tender age if 38, I can recognize the dismissive tone with which college professors have approached students and to my lack of surprise it hasn't changed since I first touched a college campus when I was 17.
The fact is, most people in college are going because without that piece of paper, they are screwed. It doesn't matter whether they learn, it only matters that when their resume hits the inbox of the human resources department, it states that there is a college degree. It doesn't really even matter if the degree matches the job you are applying for.
That sad truth, that the degree you study for doesn't make a difference in the REAL world, is why you have students looking at you with blank stares. You want them to look at education as some sort of mystical mind opening experience. It isn't. They know, as you should no doubt be aware, Mr. Academic, that only the piece of paper really matters. That piece of paper is why they are mortgaging their future, betting an insane amount of money on the fact that the piece of paper your college gives them will enable them to live a life of prosperity. The few out there going to college for the love of learning are to be both praised and condemned. They should be praised for approaching the chance to learn with reverence, and they should be condemned for not approaching college realistically.
You are right, it is a fucked system. I would think investing $95,000 and four years of effort should result in some sort of return. This person you are yelling about is going to have a house payment following them for 10 or 20 years. It is a house payment they can't avoid, either through bankruptcy or just dodging the payment. It is a house payment that can be garnished out of wages. We call education an investment, but if you had investments like this in the financial world you would end up with a case like Bernie Madoff.
I assume you are advocating the Republican Party, since the majority of today's youth went Democratic in the last election. Let's look at that. First, the Republican's nominated someone for president old enough to be the great grandfather of some of today's freshmen voters. The much talked about "Young Republicans" elected a 38 year old person accused of blatant racism as their leader. That is the Republican youth organization? If you are complaining about the poltical leanings of today's youth, then you need to look what the Republican Party looks like to a young, racially diverse generation that grew up with technology as part of their daily lives. Twenty years ago Intel released the 80486 processor. I remember owning a 386, 286 and yes an 8088. Their world is not the same as yours. An eighteen year old, for instance, has never known a world before The Simpsons, since it was first shown in 1989. They have always had mobile game systems, since the Gameboy was first produced in 1989.
The Republican Party is a party of older, reactionary people who seem to be filled with fear. The accusations of racism sticks really easily to the Party, especially when you consider that McCain voted against the creation of the Martin Luther King Jr, and supported its revocation years later. I can't tell you just how many times I have heard jokes about watermelons in the white house since that election, but it is depressingly all too common among the white conservatives in Texas. Why do you think the youth went over to the Democratic Party?
But the rich do have credit, and make use it extensively.
Yeah, I can relate to this post. I and my wife both lost our tech jobs in 2001, mine right before 9/11, and hers the week after. I was laid off because the tech economy was basically fucked, and my wife's company got gobbled up by a foreign firm, who then scrapped basically the entire workforce.
I looked for work until my unemployment ran out, then worked in a warehouse for 7 bucks an hour, my wife had gotten pregnant at the beginning of this saga, and was unemployable, especially since she had a difficult pregnancy.
We lost our home, our cars, our credit cards, and ended up renting a townhome next door to a couple of crack houses.
Through no fault of our own, our credit was absolutely destroyed and has never recovered, since once you are in that scenario it is difficult in the extreme to pull yourself up. And yes, I have been denied several good paying jobs due to bad credit. As a result, 8 years later, I am still trying to pull my credit back up.