I only have my own personal anecdote, but I was the top boy in my highschool class by far. That didn't even get me into the top 10% of my class, though, since the top 10% were all girls. I think the only other boy in the honor society was a boy from the next year's class but I can't remember. (I know who the next highest boy in the school's ranking was but I don't remember whether or not he hit the cutoff for honor society.)
This was during the 90s in a public high school, so it wasn't like the population was simply unbalanced. This is hardly a new problem. Our education system simply doesn't engage with boys and hasn't for years at this point.
If you want links, though, it isn't hard to find them:
Unless something has changed since less than a week ago, if you try and connect to Steam while Steam is down for any reason (say, a DDOS attack, like in this article), you will fail to authenticate and be left in a "logged out" state. At that point there's no way to activate offline mode because you can't connect.
If you were already logged into Steam and attempt to "go offline" it will attempt to authenticate with the Steam servers, and again - if Steam is down, that's the end of that.
This happened less than a week ago. That's not misinformation, that was me trying to open Steam on Saturday to check out the holiday sale.
I can guarantee you that the last time I tried to start Steam without any network connectivity it tried to connect, couldn't, and refused to start in that state. That was a couple of years ago, but it definitely used to be the case that the only way to get Steam to go into offline mode is to already be online. So now whenever I get ready to leave for vacation I make sure to take the laptop offline.
Likewise when Steam was offline this weekend (and it was only down for like a half hour), I would start Steam, it would go to "Connecting...", it would fail, it would bring up the login window with an empty password, and that was that. No way to login, no way to switch to offline mode. So it's possible that it saw the working network connection and decided that since it couldn't contact the Steam servers it wouldn't go to "offline" but I most certainly couldn't do it while it was out. (I think Steam was out in a weird way where the update servers were up and a few game servers were up, but the authentication and store servers were down.)
But I can guarantee you that there was no way to get into offline mode at that time. I suppose I could have tried unplugging my Internet connection but why would I have tried that when it's their servers that are down, not my Internet?
I checked. Steam doesn't have a status page, so you have to rely on Reddit threads. Steam was definitely actually down since other people couldn't get online either. You most certainly cannot start Steam in this state, there's no way to do it, it will be unable to authenticate because it can't contact the servers, so it'll demand you reenter your password. At this point there's now no way to get into offline mode because Steam can't get past the login.
In my past experience with Steam, the only way to get into Offline Mode is to first be online. Apparently you're supposed to know ahead of time when your Internet connection will die for a week.
How long a timeout? Because Steam was down just the other day and the way it reacted was dumping me to the login screen, requiring me to re-enter my Steam password despite it being "saved", and then failing to connect because it was down, at which point it quits.
To get Steam into Offline mode, you must first connect to Steam.
I don't think Mac OS X even has a user-accessible BIOS. I know there's a "special" key combo you can hit to reset whatever they call their equivalent of CMOS settings (it's either NVRAM or PRAM and I have no clue what the difference is or why it matters). (I know this because there's another cute Mac bug that frequently hits my work MacBook where it will forget it has a built-in display because I turned it off while connected to a monitor, so you have to reset it to factory defaults to get it to realize "maybe I should turn on the laptop display.")
Ah, what the heck, I have the sucker sitting right next to me, let's see if you can disable it in... "thu: no items." Oh.
(And I checked, you cannot access the EFI shell at all on new Macs. So even if it were possible to turn Thunderbolt off there, you can't access it anyway.)
Well, yes, if you can rip open the computer case and install new hardware, you have complete control over the hardware and that's to be expected.
Thunderbolt is more like USB to the user - it's a thing you use to connect untrusted devices to your system. You wouldn't expect that plugging in a USB thumbdrive would magically own your system (well, maybe you should, because it's happened in the past, but I think it's fair to say that it shouldn't). You'd think that plugging in a random Thunderbolt device would be designed to be safe. Apparently not: apparently Thunderbolt is unsafe by design.
The one mitigating factor is that literally no one uses Thunderbolt for anything, so it's not like anyone's likely to be coming across random compromised Thunderbolt devices. Discovering a Thunderbolt device at all would be out of the ordinary.
The OP has it wrong. The theaters would be liable.
Remember the shooting that occurred at a screening of Batman: the Dark Knight? Well, some families of victims are suing the theater and the case is still ongoing. Because there's a chance that the theater may be found liable of not having "enough security" for a random shooting, and because it can be argued that the theaters in this case were "warned ahead of time of a potential attack," they could potentially be found liable should anything happen.
Keep in mind that Sony is only pulling the release after the five largest theater chains refused to show it. And the reason they refused to show it is because they could potentially be liable should anything happen anywhere in any of their theaters. Given the poor reviews the movie is getting they presumably decided that it just wasn't worth any risk as they're probably not going to make much anything off showing it anyway.
It could still be a hyperlink. Clicking on the hyperlink would automatically list recent twits using the given tag. Just like on Slashdot.
Which is exactly how they work on Twitter and Facebook?
Putting # signs in the middle of sentences just make it less readable and has no benefit.
Which is why a lot of people stick the hashtags at the end of what they post and not in the middle. The fact that some people "misuse" them (although you can debate that) doesn't mean that they aren't fundamentally different from hyperlinks or they don't serve a useful purpose. They're effectively the <meta name="keywords"> tag in a medium that doesn't accept full HTML.
Underline, or special color is a much better idea.
So basically you're only complaining about the presentation of the hashtag?
You don't understand the point of hashtags. The concept isn't to link to other tags, the concept is to make your post discoverable by other people. They're hashtags, after all, they tag a post as being related to some concept.
They're just like the tags underneath the Slashdot articles that no one pays attention to, like pleasestop and ohnoitsbennett. They're "reverse hyperlinks" if you will, designed not to send you to other pages, but to get you there from other pages.
Moreover it isn't deleting the files as is obvious from just looking at iTunes itself.
Oh, no, I'm pretty sure the OP is trolling and that if he checked within iTunes he'd see he still has all his Ramones music. But my guess is that he's backing up from Windows/Mac OS X to Linux or something like that so anything special Mac OS X does for Time Machine wouldn't work, and that he does have an rsync log showing a bunch of files being deleted. It just should also show a bunch of new files with strangely similar names being added at the same time.
I'll bet if you do constantly rsync your iTunes music directory you will see deleted files. Because if you have iTunes set to "manage music" it will rename files according to some scheme that seems to randomly change over time. (Or because you changed some metadata like the song's name.) So it's entirely possible that a whole bunch of files were "deleted" - because iTunes moved them to a different location, and as far as I know, rsync doesn't have the ability to track files being moved around. (And a bit of Googling suggests this is in fact the case and offers some workarounds.)
Neither have I. I've never had it delete a song. What I have seen it do (multiple fucking times) is refuse to sync new music over to an iPhone. It'll get as far as "waiting for items to copy" and then just sit there for as long as you're willing to wait, not copying a thing. Googling (and bitching about it on Facebook) reveals I am nowhere near alone in experiencing this problem.
So, then, the other way around: OS X's filesystem (it is HFS, right?) on Windows. Because I've still never seen iTunes try to format a thumbdrive, but I've definitely seen Windows offer to format a thumbdrive it doesn't recognize the filesystem on.
Did iTunes do it or did the OS she was running do it?
Because as far as I know, unless the thumbdrive was an iPod itself, iTunes isn't capable of formatting it.
I'm guessing that you did something like create a thumbdrive using NTFS or whatever Mac OS X's file system is (HFS?) and then tried to use it on the opposite OS, which balked, and offered to reformat the drive into a filesystem it understood, which your niece just hit "OK" for.
Because iTunes may be a piece of shit (as far as I can tell, when iTunes Match released, Apple intentional broke syncing so it's no longer possible to sync music from iTunes), but I've never heard it do that. (I really should clarify that last one since you can get it to sync, but it easily breaks such that it will stop adding new music to an iPod/iPhone until you factory reset it and copy everything over again. At which point it will break again, so every time you get a new album outside of iTunes, you're in for another "factory reset and copy everything over again" loop. Which sounds like what this lawsuit is about, actually. Oh, and based on the last time this happened, it will then copy things over wrong so that metadata for songs refers to the wrong songs and some songs don't copy completely. I'm not arguing that iTunes isn't a completely broken piece of shit - it is - just that I've never seen it format thumbdrives.)
It looks like you need a Steam account to watch. You can view the list of public broadcasts, but attempting to watch them (even on the supported browsers) brings me to a login page. No idea if it works in just a browser if you have a Steam account.
Oh, and if you're at work, visiting that page also verified other reports that people were using it to stream porn. So visit it at your own risk.
It was sleazy, it was wrong, it was something that we should not tolerate from any gaming company, but it was part of the deal for a review copy up front and every respectable gaming review outlet turned them down. Yeah, you read that right.
So, none of them?
Honestly asking. I haven't bothered reading any video game specific site in years, primarily because video game sites seemed to either be the corporate "blatantly in bed with the publishers" type (IGN) or "shitty blog not worth anyone's time" type (Kotaku). I'm curious if any gaming review outlet actually turned down the offer and insisted on reviewing a release copy.
Which would explain how Zoosk got her postal code. Your Facebook name and profile picture are (by default at least) entirely public. Anyone going to your Facebook page can see them. They're available through Facebook's Graph API without any form of authentication.
Your postal code, on the other hand, is not. In fact, Facebook doesn't even record that type of information. Your "current location" is basically freeform. (Technically it's a "page" for a given city. But I think you can enter anything you want in there.)
Facebook's ads API, on the other hand, allows you to target by postal code...
That's the reason given but it makes no sense. The Windows API doesn't give out names like that. The Windows 95 version was internally identified as version 4.0. Windows 98 was version 4.10. (ME was 4.90, and a separate flag indicates if the system was Windows NT-based, allowing programs to known the difference between Windows 95 (4.0) and Windows NT 4.0.)
So that explanation makes no sense.
Even more, if you check out the documentation on getting version information, the version returned is now tied to the application manifest as of Windows 8.1 anyway. So you'll only ever get version 6.2 (Windows 8) back unless you explicitly target later version of Windows, meaning the jump to version 10 can't cause problems with older software.
This whole "Windows 9*" check thing makes no sense. Well, except for Java applications, because Sun actually built Java to pull the version number and then translate it into a string rather than expose it via any public Java API. I guess the idea was that you shouldn't need to know the OS your Java app is running on, but as anyone who's done anything with Java knows, that never actually works in practice. As far as I know that's the only case where you'd ever be doing version checks against strings under Windows.
Turns out that it was only a full version for my device, not my account.
The majority of in-app purchases I've seen tied to your account, not your device, and allow you to restore them when you move to new devices. My experience is admittedly extremely limited (a couple of games my mom and brother own) but in those cases you were able to restore purchases from one device to a new device. More recent games even save to iCloud so you're now even able to keep your save games when moving to a new device, something that you weren't allowed to do earlier.
(For some dumbass reason the only way to transfer documents off iOS devices is still only through iCloud. You can't just connect an iPhone via USB and transfer documents off of it. If a given app doesn't support iCloud, your data is device-specific and can't be transferred off in any way. In 2014.)
In fact a bunch of games already do this. I know that Capcom has released Ghost Trick and the latest Phoenix Wright on iOS doing exactly what you're talking about. You get the first chapter free and have to pay to unlock the rest of the game. (And, unlike certain other Capcom iOS ports, those two ports are really well done.)
It actually works out pretty well, you basically get a free demo (like you would with shareware) and then you can pay for the full version. The only issue is that due to Apple restrictions, you end up having to download the full game, regardless about whether you decide to pay for everything. I suppose I should be grateful Apple finally discovered how to do delta updates for app updates.
It's Nerval's Lobster. He's a Dice employee who submits Dice stories to Slashdot. No, seriously, click on his user name, all his activity is submitting Dice stories. You'd think Slashdot could at least mention the Dice connection, but they never have.
Dunno about "hard-core FPS player" but MMOs are actually moving to consoles. The obvious example is Destiny which launched in September, not to mention the Elder Scrolls Online which is coming to consoles next month.
There might not be quite as many console MMOs as there are PC MMOs, but newer MMOs are definitely looking towards consoles as a target platform.
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I only have my own personal anecdote, but I was the top boy in my highschool class by far. That didn't even get me into the top 10% of my class, though, since the top 10% were all girls. I think the only other boy in the honor society was a boy from the next year's class but I can't remember. (I know who the next highest boy in the school's ranking was but I don't remember whether or not he hit the cutoff for honor society.)
This was during the 90s in a public high school, so it wasn't like the population was simply unbalanced. This is hardly a new problem. Our education system simply doesn't engage with boys and hasn't for years at this point.
If you want links, though, it isn't hard to find them:
Itâ(TM)s Time to Worry: Boys Are Rapidly Falling Behind Girls in School
How to Make School Better for Boys: Start by acknowledging that boys are languishing while girls are succeeding.
Education: Boys Falling Behind Girls in Many Areas (Paywalled, so I have no idea what it says)
Those were just the top results on Google.
Unless something has changed since less than a week ago, if you try and connect to Steam while Steam is down for any reason (say, a DDOS attack, like in this article), you will fail to authenticate and be left in a "logged out" state. At that point there's no way to activate offline mode because you can't connect.
If you were already logged into Steam and attempt to "go offline" it will attempt to authenticate with the Steam servers, and again - if Steam is down, that's the end of that.
This happened less than a week ago. That's not misinformation, that was me trying to open Steam on Saturday to check out the holiday sale.
I can guarantee you that the last time I tried to start Steam without any network connectivity it tried to connect, couldn't, and refused to start in that state. That was a couple of years ago, but it definitely used to be the case that the only way to get Steam to go into offline mode is to already be online. So now whenever I get ready to leave for vacation I make sure to take the laptop offline.
Likewise when Steam was offline this weekend (and it was only down for like a half hour), I would start Steam, it would go to "Connecting...", it would fail, it would bring up the login window with an empty password, and that was that. No way to login, no way to switch to offline mode. So it's possible that it saw the working network connection and decided that since it couldn't contact the Steam servers it wouldn't go to "offline" but I most certainly couldn't do it while it was out. (I think Steam was out in a weird way where the update servers were up and a few game servers were up, but the authentication and store servers were down.)
But I can guarantee you that there was no way to get into offline mode at that time. I suppose I could have tried unplugging my Internet connection but why would I have tried that when it's their servers that are down, not my Internet?
I checked. Steam doesn't have a status page, so you have to rely on Reddit threads. Steam was definitely actually down since other people couldn't get online either. You most certainly cannot start Steam in this state, there's no way to do it, it will be unable to authenticate because it can't contact the servers, so it'll demand you reenter your password. At this point there's now no way to get into offline mode because Steam can't get past the login.
In my past experience with Steam, the only way to get into Offline Mode is to first be online. Apparently you're supposed to know ahead of time when your Internet connection will die for a week.
How long a timeout? Because Steam was down just the other day and the way it reacted was dumping me to the login screen, requiring me to re-enter my Steam password despite it being "saved", and then failing to connect because it was down, at which point it quits.
To get Steam into Offline mode, you must first connect to Steam.
I don't think Mac OS X even has a user-accessible BIOS. I know there's a "special" key combo you can hit to reset whatever they call their equivalent of CMOS settings (it's either NVRAM or PRAM and I have no clue what the difference is or why it matters). (I know this because there's another cute Mac bug that frequently hits my work MacBook where it will forget it has a built-in display because I turned it off while connected to a monitor, so you have to reset it to factory defaults to get it to realize "maybe I should turn on the laptop display.")
Ah, what the heck, I have the sucker sitting right next to me, let's see if you can disable it in ... "thu: no items." Oh.
(And I checked, you cannot access the EFI shell at all on new Macs. So even if it were possible to turn Thunderbolt off there, you can't access it anyway.)
Well, yes, if you can rip open the computer case and install new hardware, you have complete control over the hardware and that's to be expected.
Thunderbolt is more like USB to the user - it's a thing you use to connect untrusted devices to your system. You wouldn't expect that plugging in a USB thumbdrive would magically own your system (well, maybe you should, because it's happened in the past, but I think it's fair to say that it shouldn't). You'd think that plugging in a random Thunderbolt device would be designed to be safe. Apparently not: apparently Thunderbolt is unsafe by design.
The one mitigating factor is that literally no one uses Thunderbolt for anything, so it's not like anyone's likely to be coming across random compromised Thunderbolt devices. Discovering a Thunderbolt device at all would be out of the ordinary.
The OP has it wrong. The theaters would be liable.
Remember the shooting that occurred at a screening of Batman: the Dark Knight? Well, some families of victims are suing the theater and the case is still ongoing. Because there's a chance that the theater may be found liable of not having "enough security" for a random shooting, and because it can be argued that the theaters in this case were "warned ahead of time of a potential attack," they could potentially be found liable should anything happen.
Keep in mind that Sony is only pulling the release after the five largest theater chains refused to show it. And the reason they refused to show it is because they could potentially be liable should anything happen anywhere in any of their theaters. Given the poor reviews the movie is getting they presumably decided that it just wasn't worth any risk as they're probably not going to make much anything off showing it anyway.
It could still be a hyperlink. Clicking on the hyperlink would automatically list recent twits using the given tag. Just like on Slashdot.
Which is exactly how they work on Twitter and Facebook?
Putting # signs in the middle of sentences just make it less readable and has no benefit.
Which is why a lot of people stick the hashtags at the end of what they post and not in the middle. The fact that some people "misuse" them (although you can debate that) doesn't mean that they aren't fundamentally different from hyperlinks or they don't serve a useful purpose. They're effectively the <meta name="keywords"> tag in a medium that doesn't accept full HTML.
Underline, or special color is a much better idea.
So basically you're only complaining about the presentation of the hashtag?
You don't understand the point of hashtags. The concept isn't to link to other tags, the concept is to make your post discoverable by other people. They're hashtags, after all, they tag a post as being related to some concept.
They're just like the tags underneath the Slashdot articles that no one pays attention to, like pleasestop and ohnoitsbennett. They're "reverse hyperlinks" if you will, designed not to send you to other pages, but to get you there from other pages.
Moreover it isn't deleting the files as is obvious from just looking at iTunes itself.
Oh, no, I'm pretty sure the OP is trolling and that if he checked within iTunes he'd see he still has all his Ramones music. But my guess is that he's backing up from Windows/Mac OS X to Linux or something like that so anything special Mac OS X does for Time Machine wouldn't work, and that he does have an rsync log showing a bunch of files being deleted. It just should also show a bunch of new files with strangely similar names being added at the same time.
I'll bet if you do constantly rsync your iTunes music directory you will see deleted files. Because if you have iTunes set to "manage music" it will rename files according to some scheme that seems to randomly change over time. (Or because you changed some metadata like the song's name.) So it's entirely possible that a whole bunch of files were "deleted" - because iTunes moved them to a different location, and as far as I know, rsync doesn't have the ability to track files being moved around. (And a bit of Googling suggests this is in fact the case and offers some workarounds.)
Neither have I. I've never had it delete a song. What I have seen it do (multiple fucking times) is refuse to sync new music over to an iPhone. It'll get as far as "waiting for items to copy" and then just sit there for as long as you're willing to wait, not copying a thing. Googling (and bitching about it on Facebook) reveals I am nowhere near alone in experiencing this problem.
So, then, the other way around: OS X's filesystem (it is HFS, right?) on Windows. Because I've still never seen iTunes try to format a thumbdrive, but I've definitely seen Windows offer to format a thumbdrive it doesn't recognize the filesystem on.
Did iTunes do it or did the OS she was running do it?
Because as far as I know, unless the thumbdrive was an iPod itself, iTunes isn't capable of formatting it.
I'm guessing that you did something like create a thumbdrive using NTFS or whatever Mac OS X's file system is (HFS?) and then tried to use it on the opposite OS, which balked, and offered to reformat the drive into a filesystem it understood, which your niece just hit "OK" for.
Because iTunes may be a piece of shit (as far as I can tell, when iTunes Match released, Apple intentional broke syncing so it's no longer possible to sync music from iTunes), but I've never heard it do that. (I really should clarify that last one since you can get it to sync, but it easily breaks such that it will stop adding new music to an iPod/iPhone until you factory reset it and copy everything over again. At which point it will break again, so every time you get a new album outside of iTunes, you're in for another "factory reset and copy everything over again" loop. Which sounds like what this lawsuit is about, actually. Oh, and based on the last time this happened, it will then copy things over wrong so that metadata for songs refers to the wrong songs and some songs don't copy completely. I'm not arguing that iTunes isn't a completely broken piece of shit - it is - just that I've never seen it format thumbdrives.)
It looks like you need a Steam account to watch. You can view the list of public broadcasts, but attempting to watch them (even on the supported browsers) brings me to a login page. No idea if it works in just a browser if you have a Steam account.
Oh, and if you're at work, visiting that page also verified other reports that people were using it to stream porn. So visit it at your own risk.
It was sleazy, it was wrong, it was something that we should not tolerate from any gaming company, but it was part of the deal for a review copy up front and every respectable gaming review outlet turned them down. Yeah, you read that right.
So, none of them?
Honestly asking. I haven't bothered reading any video game specific site in years, primarily because video game sites seemed to either be the corporate "blatantly in bed with the publishers" type (IGN) or "shitty blog not worth anyone's time" type (Kotaku). I'm curious if any gaming review outlet actually turned down the offer and insisted on reviewing a release copy.
Which would explain how Zoosk got her postal code. Your Facebook name and profile picture are (by default at least) entirely public. Anyone going to your Facebook page can see them. They're available through Facebook's Graph API without any form of authentication.
Your postal code, on the other hand, is not. In fact, Facebook doesn't even record that type of information. Your "current location" is basically freeform. (Technically it's a "page" for a given city. But I think you can enter anything you want in there.)
Facebook's ads API, on the other hand, allows you to target by postal code...
I'm not so sure about that. OSX is already on what, 10.7 or something like that?
The current version of OS X is 10.10.1. (10.10 is Yosemite. They stopped using big cat names with 10.9, which was Mavericks.)
The Windows kernel version has almost never matched the marketing versions:
Windows 95: 4.0
Windows 98: 4.10
Windows ME: 4.90
Windows 2000: 5.0
Windows XP: 5.1
Windows Vista: 6.0
Windows 7: 6.1
Windows 8: 6.2
Windows 8.1: 6.3
(Note: Starting with Windows 2000, the versions are NT versions, Windows 95/98/ME are actually numbered based on the DOS Windows (as in Windows 3.1).)
That's the reason given but it makes no sense. The Windows API doesn't give out names like that. The Windows 95 version was internally identified as version 4.0. Windows 98 was version 4.10. (ME was 4.90, and a separate flag indicates if the system was Windows NT-based, allowing programs to known the difference between Windows 95 (4.0) and Windows NT 4.0.)
So that explanation makes no sense.
Even more, if you check out the documentation on getting version information, the version returned is now tied to the application manifest as of Windows 8.1 anyway. So you'll only ever get version 6.2 (Windows 8) back unless you explicitly target later version of Windows, meaning the jump to version 10 can't cause problems with older software.
This whole "Windows 9*" check thing makes no sense. Well, except for Java applications, because Sun actually built Java to pull the version number and then translate it into a string rather than expose it via any public Java API. I guess the idea was that you shouldn't need to know the OS your Java app is running on, but as anyone who's done anything with Java knows, that never actually works in practice. As far as I know that's the only case where you'd ever be doing version checks against strings under Windows.
Turns out that it was only a full version for my device, not my account.
The majority of in-app purchases I've seen tied to your account, not your device, and allow you to restore them when you move to new devices. My experience is admittedly extremely limited (a couple of games my mom and brother own) but in those cases you were able to restore purchases from one device to a new device. More recent games even save to iCloud so you're now even able to keep your save games when moving to a new device, something that you weren't allowed to do earlier.
(For some dumbass reason the only way to transfer documents off iOS devices is still only through iCloud. You can't just connect an iPhone via USB and transfer documents off of it. If a given app doesn't support iCloud, your data is device-specific and can't be transferred off in any way. In 2014.)
In fact a bunch of games already do this. I know that Capcom has released Ghost Trick and the latest Phoenix Wright on iOS doing exactly what you're talking about. You get the first chapter free and have to pay to unlock the rest of the game. (And, unlike certain other Capcom iOS ports, those two ports are really well done.)
It actually works out pretty well, you basically get a free demo (like you would with shareware) and then you can pay for the full version. The only issue is that due to Apple restrictions, you end up having to download the full game, regardless about whether you decide to pay for everything. I suppose I should be grateful Apple finally discovered how to do delta updates for app updates.
It's Nerval's Lobster. He's a Dice employee who submits Dice stories to Slashdot. No, seriously, click on his user name, all his activity is submitting Dice stories. You'd think Slashdot could at least mention the Dice connection, but they never have.
Dunno about "hard-core FPS player" but MMOs are actually moving to consoles. The obvious example is Destiny which launched in September, not to mention the Elder Scrolls Online which is coming to consoles next month.
There might not be quite as many console MMOs as there are PC MMOs, but newer MMOs are definitely looking towards consoles as a target platform.