Imagine a P2P network with an EULA - to download a file you have to agree to the EULA (clients can send the EULA the user agreed to and in case of a mismatch the download fails?). Any attempt to use the software without agreeing to the EULA fails. Agree, and you agreed not to sue, try to locate other users, etc etc. If you try to circumvent that - why, then, the DMCA card is played.
Combine that with privacy/encryption technology, and you've got very little to worry about.
Well, it should be legal/allowed. If you don't want it read and archived, don't put it on the Web.
You know, I've been wondering about Java/Shockwave games. Certainly most kids would love a CD full of those games, and many companies have many different games online which mostly disappear a few months later.
Is anybody archiving these? Do we need to start?
Would the companies object?
You can play The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on Douglas Adams' web site. As it happens, if you know what you're doing you can also download the.z5 file and play it offline on any zip interpreter. Would the copyright owners object to it? I own that Infocom 33-game collection and all 5 books; the reason the game wasn't included in the collection is copyright hassles. Am I "entitled" to play it offline?
This ties in to today's "is ROM collecting wrong" story, except in this case you're actually offered the games, under mostly unclear terms.
Professional atheletes develop superior muscles, professional musicians develop superior hearing, and video gamers develop superior hand-eye coordination.
Lastly, translated Japanese roms are awsome. We may not have gotten most of the original Final Fantasy games here to the USA, but now I can play most of them thanks to fan translations.
I completely agree - finding out there's a prequel/sequel to a game you played that's only available in Japanese sucks - but you're wrong about Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Origins (PSX): FF I + II Final Fantasy Chronicles (PSX): FF IV+ Chrono Trigger Final Fantasy Anthology (PSX): FF V + VI
So as you can see, after Sony's E3 FF XI announcement, the only game in the (main) series not published in north america is FF III.
Was using the NES/SNES roms "right" before the games were published on the PSX? Did it become wrong afterwards? what about FF III? How about if you play that, then it's published in your region? Do you have a moral obligation to buy it then?
P.S. Yes, playing cart games on a PSX sucks since you have to deal with loading times, but they did try to improve the games in a number of ways (that an old-school gamer would not disapprove of).
And if you don't have something like that nearby, there's always the web, right?
Don't send people to Buy Rite games! According to the BBB:
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record due to unanswered complaints concerning delivery problems & product dissatisfaction. The Bureau processed 240 complaints about this company in the last 36 months. One hundred and fifty-seven of those were processed in the last 12 months. Of all the complaints 234 were resolved but not always within the Bureau's time frame and 6 were no response.
You do not violate copyright by downloading or otherwise moving content to another medium for personal use.
Am I violating content by (to coin a phrase) "platform shifting"? If I paid for, say, Pac Man (it must have been in 3-4 classic game collections / updates I bought over the last few years) and I can legally play it on the PC, Dreamcast and gamecube, am I "entitled" to play it on MAME?
One thing I'd like to see, but I doubt it will happen is Nintendo throwing the entire NES/SNES library on a GameCube disc for like $50-100, and you could play them all, just choose your game from a menu. That alone would make the 'cube worth purchasing.
You can do exactly that with a Dreamcast. Just mail Nintendo a check for $50 (or buy 1-2 games you wouldn't have bought otherwise?).
Realistically, this kind of thing can't be done legally because just the attorney fees to figure out who owns the copyrights for what games would be overwhelming (ask the Blue Sky Rangers about trying to license 20 year old games).
Would you pass a similar law for books? movies? television? Why be media-specific?
Oh, and that game those punk kids play, you know the one where they pretend to have this war, you know? and they're trying to kill everybody on the other side so they can capture the king? That seems pretty violent too.
? Is there something I'm missing here, or are MD5 and crypt's weaknesses so completely crippling that it's better to just store passwords as they are typed in?
NiGHTS: into dreams super puzzle fighter 2 turbo guardian heroes daytona usa championship circuit edition
There's maybe 7-8 RPGs, I think all of them are OK: Panzer dragoon saga which costs $150+, albert odyssey, magic knight rayearth, shining force, shining wisdom, dragon force, shining the holy ark, couple of others.
-1 offtopic? I'd accept a "redundant" rating since there was an earlier post saying essentially the same thing, but not an "offtopic" - it seems some people didn't get the "funny" part of the comment I was replying to. Ugh.
We're in a recession. Gamers are educating themselves more, and are spending their dollars on games that will give them the most bang for the buck.
We wish.
How many games are purchased after reading reviews? 5%? 10%? How many are purchased on a whim, or by parents who figure if the kids like superman they gotta like the game, or just because it's got a 2-player mode and you kids can play together and quit kicking your brother and leave me the hell alone I'm trying to drink?
what about Gameboy Advance? Will Acclaim be making games for that still?
Yes.
The Sony handhald gaming unit it still far off, and its doubtful it will be able to dethrone the GBA. Stopping GBA development right now is effectively stopping handheld game development. Why leave a market where development time and budget are much smaller and the payout almost the same?
The gamecube's curse is the quality of Nintendo's first-party games.
With the PS2 and that other console, one company makes the hardware and maybe a handful of game titles, and the rest of the sales are divided between all other publishers.
With Nintendo, the quality and brand recognition of the flagship titles (Metroid, Zelda, Mario, etc) are so irresistable many first-party games are considered must-have purchases, leaving cube owners little time and money for third-party titles.
Quality kills.
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how hard is it really for an adult to ask another adult to turn off the filters? They are known to block all sorts of legit sites, so it's not as if you're really asking to look at pr0n.
Imagine going to the library, being blocked, asking to turn off the filters, then finding out the site's registration expired and it was picked up by one of those hits-from-expired-sites outfits linking to pr0n?
Far fetched? Remember Senator Hatch's page from last week?
It might have something to do with the fact that all the games I saw on that site are like $30+, while you can buy Monopoly for $6.
The prices tend to be higher when the people who design the games actually get paid... not to mention the fact that most good games are imported, and the economics of scale (Hasbro knows they can move N million units a year).
But the new special editions people buy each other are probably around $30 too. And you know what? There's many PC / console games available for $5-$10 ; you still buy the $20+ titles sometimes, don't you? And some of the bargain bin games are gems; this is monopoly you're talking about. It never gets good.
Tonight my wife and I are going to pickup a box of Monopoly from Toys R Us and/or a jigsaw puzzle.
NOOOOOOOOOO!
What is it with you Americans and Monopoly? Each year, hundreds of new board gamesare hoping for a little exposure, a little space on store shelves, and you keep buying Monopoly simpsons edition, Monopoly star wars edition, Monopoly yourcity edition, monopoly golf... Stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it! It's not even a good game, for crying out loud! Please just stop it! Or would you rather give Hasbro more money for domain disputes?
Sign me up! Man, I can play this game for 100 hours then have somebody delete my character with no way to restore it... then have the serves shut down because the IP address is hard-coded into the client and has to be changed - I can hardly wait!
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But fortunately, we know better than to play it anywhere.
Imagine a P2P network with an EULA - to download a file you have to agree to the EULA (clients can send the EULA the user agreed to and in case of a mismatch the download fails?). Any attempt to use the software without agreeing to the EULA fails. Agree, and you agreed not to sue, try to locate other users, etc etc. If you try to circumvent that - why, then, the DMCA card is played.
Combine that with privacy/encryption technology, and you've got very little to worry about.
Well, it should be legal/allowed. If you don't want it read and archived, don't put it on the Web.
.z5 file and play it offline on any zip interpreter. Would the copyright owners object to it? I own that Infocom 33-game collection and all 5 books; the reason the game wasn't included in the collection is copyright hassles. Am I "entitled" to play it offline?
You know, I've been wondering about Java/Shockwave games. Certainly most kids would love a CD full of those games, and many companies have many different games online which mostly disappear a few months later.
Is anybody archiving these? Do we need to start?
Would the companies object?
You can play The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on Douglas Adams' web site. As it happens, if you know what you're doing you can also download the
This ties in to today's "is ROM collecting wrong" story, except in this case you're actually offered the games, under mostly unclear terms.
I think you're trying to disagree with what was never said.
Actually, I was asking a question.
Professional atheletes develop superior muscles, professional musicians develop superior hearing, and video gamers develop superior hand-eye coordination.
Lastly, translated Japanese roms are awsome. We may not have gotten most of the original Final Fantasy games here to the USA, but now I can play most of them thanks to fan translations.
I completely agree - finding out there's a prequel/sequel to a game you played that's only available in Japanese sucks - but you're wrong about Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy Origins (PSX): FF I + II
Final Fantasy Chronicles (PSX): FF IV+ Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy Anthology (PSX): FF V + VI
So as you can see, after Sony's E3 FF XI announcement, the only game in the (main) series not published in north america is FF III.
Was using the NES/SNES roms "right" before the games were published on the PSX? Did it become wrong afterwards? what about FF III? How about if you play that, then it's published in your region? Do you have a moral obligation to buy it then?
P.S. Yes, playing cart games on a PSX sucks since you have to deal with loading times, but they did try to improve the games in a number of ways (that an old-school gamer would not disapprove of).
And if you don't have something like that nearby, there's always the web, right?
Don't send people to Buy Rite games! According to the BBB:
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record due to unanswered complaints concerning delivery problems & product dissatisfaction. The Bureau processed 240 complaints about this company in the last 36 months. One hundred and fifty-seven of those were processed in the last 12 months. Of all the complaints 234 were resolved but not always within the Bureau's time frame and 6 were no response.
You do not violate copyright by downloading or otherwise moving content to another medium for personal use.
Am I violating content by (to coin a phrase) "platform shifting"? If I paid for, say, Pac Man (it must have been in 3-4 classic game collections / updates I bought over the last few years) and I can legally play it on the PC, Dreamcast and gamecube, am I "entitled" to play it on MAME?
One thing I'd like to see, but I doubt it will happen is Nintendo throwing the entire NES/SNES library on a GameCube disc for like $50-100, and you could play them all, just choose your game from a menu. That alone would make the 'cube worth purchasing.
You can do exactly that with a Dreamcast. Just mail Nintendo a check for $50 (or buy 1-2 games you wouldn't have bought otherwise?).
Realistically, this kind of thing can't be done legally because just the attorney fees to figure out who owns the copyrights for what games would be overwhelming (ask the Blue Sky Rangers about trying to license 20 year old games).
What's wrong with the name "Mister Mosquito" for a game about a mosquito buzzing around a room and attempting to bite people?
We want sex descriptors!
How are we supposed to figure out what games (or movies) to get?
Would you pass a similar law for books? movies? television? Why be media-specific?
Oh, and that game those punk kids play, you know the one where they pretend to have this war, you know? and they're trying to kill everybody on the other side so they can capture the king? That seems pretty violent too.
? Is there something I'm missing here, or are MD5 and crypt's weaknesses so completely crippling that it's better to just store passwords as they are typed in?
Dude, MD5 is, like, so 90's.
All the cool kids use SHA.
NiGHTS: into dreams
super puzzle fighter 2 turbo
guardian heroes
daytona usa championship circuit edition
There's maybe 7-8 RPGs, I think all of them are OK: Panzer dragoon saga which costs $150+, albert odyssey, magic knight rayearth, shining force, shining wisdom, dragon force, shining the holy ark, couple of others.
Check out the reviews at www.sega-saturn.com
Maybe something like warchalking would be in order for the rest of the world?
-1 offtopic? I'd accept a "redundant" rating since there was an earlier post saying essentially the same thing, but not an "offtopic" - it seems some people didn't get the "funny" part of the comment I was replying to. Ugh.
We're in a recession. Gamers are educating themselves more, and are spending their dollars on games that will give them the most bang for the buck.
We wish.
How many games are purchased after reading reviews? 5%? 10%? How many are purchased on a whim, or by parents who figure if the kids like superman they gotta like the game, or just because it's got a 2-player mode and you kids can play together and quit kicking your brother and leave me the hell alone I'm trying to drink?
what about Gameboy Advance? Will Acclaim be making games for that still?
Yes.
The Sony handhald gaming unit it still far off, and its doubtful it will be able to dethrone the GBA. Stopping GBA development right now is effectively stopping handheld game development. Why leave a market where development time and budget are much smaller and the payout almost the same?
The gamecube's curse is the quality of Nintendo's first-party games.
With the PS2 and that other console, one company makes the hardware and maybe a handful of game titles, and the rest of the sales are divided between all other publishers.
With Nintendo, the quality and brand recognition of the flagship titles (Metroid, Zelda, Mario, etc) are so irresistable many first-party games are considered must-have purchases, leaving cube owners little time and money for third-party titles.
Quality kills.
Didnt have any worthwhile games anyways. :)
Tempest 2000?
But you're right, looking at the Jaguar's game library I'm not compelled to get one. And that's from a Sega Saturn and Neo Geo Pocket Color owner.
how hard is it really for an adult to ask another adult to turn off the filters? They are known to block all sorts of legit sites, so it's not as if you're really asking to look at pr0n.
Imagine going to the library, being blocked, asking to turn off the filters, then finding out the site's registration expired and it was picked up by one of those hits-from-expired-sites outfits linking to pr0n?
Far fetched? Remember Senator Hatch's page from last week?
It might have something to do with the fact that all the games I saw on that site are like $30+, while you can buy Monopoly for $6.
The prices tend to be higher when the people who design the games actually get paid... not to mention the fact that most good games are imported, and the economics of scale (Hasbro knows they can move N million units a year).
But the new special editions people buy each other are probably around $30 too. And you know what? There's many PC / console games available for $5-$10 ; you still buy the $20+ titles sometimes, don't you? And some of the bargain bin games are gems; this is monopoly you're talking about. It never gets good.
Tonight my wife and I are going to pickup a box of Monopoly from Toys R Us and/or a jigsaw puzzle.
NOOOOOOOOOO!
What is it with you Americans and Monopoly? Each year, hundreds of new board gamesare hoping for a little exposure, a little space on store shelves, and you keep buying Monopoly simpsons edition, Monopoly star wars edition, Monopoly yourcity edition, monopoly golf... Stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it! It's not even a good game, for crying out loud! Please just stop it! Or would you rather give Hasbro more money for domain disputes?
Sure, not _all_ of the game is real cooperative 2 player, but the game + SNES will probably cost you less than a new PC or console game.
Sign me up! Man, I can play this game for 100 hours then have somebody delete my character with no way to restore it... then have the serves shut down because the IP address is hard-coded into the client and has to be changed - I can hardly wait!