Well define liability, should they put a picture and a warning on the box saying "WARNING: THIS GAME MAY OR MAY NOT BE ADDICTING AND HAZARDOUS TO YOUR SOCIAL HEALTH"?
Because thats basically what cigarette companies have to do.
All in all, playing the game is still their choice. An addictive habit is not the fault of the producer, its the person who is addicted. That is an issue that they themselves need to deal with. They should be seaking treatment, not 3 million dollars.
The whole "Someone else made me do it" Arguement is fundamentally flawed to begin with.
By that logic, I can go as far as to say that all my actions are the deterministic results of everything leading up to that point, so I can blame my murderous rampage on the big bang. After all my psychology is shaped by my parenting, and my parents were shaped by theirs, and so on and so forth.
Can I also sue my employer for psychologically manipulating me to spend 8 hours of my day working at a job?
Could I also sue my Internet service provider since they provide me this addictive subtance that I need to communicate and function in regular society?
Could I also sue a therapist because many people find relaxing to visit them weekly?
Could I sue the milk companies because I really always enjoy chocolate milk while playing video games?
Could I sue my friends because hanging out with them is such a positively stimulating experience that I can't stop seeing them?
Why does an MMO get this special treatment? Because it ruins lives? I think its quite the opposite. I think that they tend to reach a really broad audience - and that their addictive substance causes no physical side effects like other addictive substances like drugs or alchohol. It's just people that are prone to addictive behavior that notice they become addicted to an MMO. Perhaps better that they get it from an MMO than from a bottle of whiskey. It's a problem with the individual, psychologically manipulated or not, being of that nature where you can be easily psychologically manipulated is an issue that you yourself should have to deal with and overcome, not something a game publisher should have to factor in when they try to make their games as appealing as possible to the masses.
In my philosophy all your actions are of your own responsibility. To reiterate a line from one of my favourite movies
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convinient at the time". This will not suffice."
If you draw away all the religious belief from that statement, I think it can still hold true to morality and law.
Craig's parents may have influenced his upbringing, and NCsoft may have introduced him to an 'addictive' game. Regardless, his actions are his own, he is responsible for them, even if he is not mentally prepared to deal with them properly. Craig's correct course of action when discovering that HE has a problem is to FIX the problem, not exact some sort of revenge on those who SHOWED HIM that he had a problem.
While you bring up a point, I don't think it should matter.
The immediate question is Should Smallwood get 3 Million dollars for playing a video game for 5 years?
It doesn't matter how addictive it is. I could develop Alchoholism but I can't sue Bacardi for keeping me in the hole. It's negligent? What the heck is NCsoft supposed to do? Make Lineage II LESS fun?
I can't believe a judge allowed this case to go forward. On what grounds does developing an addiction allow you to persue a lawsuit? (If thats the case, can't every single smoker in the country sue the cigarette companies for 3 million dollars for every 5 years they smoked, essentially bankrupting that industry?)
Yes but do you have a government regulated one that does your curb every week and are those just the companies that handle the green bins you set up at work / need to call for bigger trash?
I heard that once RFID's are in place, the only things that need to upgrade are the actual reading technology, not the signal emission. The RFID itself doesn't need to broadcast any further than a couple meters - its the scanners who pick up the stuff that need improving.
So - right now, we have those issues with signal quality and and obscurity - but thats only going to improve. Would you want to adopt this kind of technology solely on how its going to be used now or are people going to start thinking long term and consider the ramifactions of this a few years down the road.
I agree - a remedial patch SHOULDN'T break the existing applications (and if Microsoft applied it, that would just give the vendors pressure to update their apps! What a role reversal, anyways) - but in case you haven't noticed, a lot of Microsoft's "Fixes" actually "break" functioning operations.
If those two particles meet, they don't cancel out - they actually cause a rift in the space-time continuum that is so catastrophic that it convinces people to take out sub-prime home equity loans.
It's a great Idea for Apple products. Because if it breaks, you just send it in to their support and they give you a replacement for the time being (ignoring the fact that you actually need your files right away) while they work on your computer for 4-6 months only to ship you a brand new one in the end. And when its time to upgrade, you just toss your computer out and buy a new one.
What is it with everyone and their demands from hard drive makers?
Don't make them smaller (in physical size) make them more affordable! Don't make them bigger (in memory) make them faster! Don't make them hold more, make them more reliable!
Did it ever occur to you guys that maybe, just maybe, SSD manufacturers only know how to do ONE thing?
I think they mean to claim that a massive multiplayer not in an MMO but an MMRTS - which would be more than say 16 people in a game, which is usually the current limit due to map restrictions mostly.
The team performed a series of expensive high-fidelity simulations on the Ranger supercomputer to generate a small "reduced model" which was transferred to a Google Android smart phone
This is like saying that watching Toy Story on your iPhone leveraged the massive renderfarm used by Pixar.
See how I used the word bit there to describe something really tiny? Maybe that has something to do with its referencing the physical "bit". As in, it overlaps both the digital bit and the physical bit./whisper
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Well define liability, should they put a picture and a warning on the box saying "WARNING: THIS GAME MAY OR MAY NOT BE ADDICTING AND HAZARDOUS TO YOUR SOCIAL HEALTH"?
Because thats basically what cigarette companies have to do.
All in all, playing the game is still their choice. An addictive habit is not the fault of the producer, its the person who is addicted. That is an issue that they themselves need to deal with. They should be seaking treatment, not 3 million dollars.
This is actually why they turned away 600 participants, there were only 2 females and 602 males.
The whole "Someone else made me do it" Arguement is fundamentally flawed to begin with.
By that logic, I can go as far as to say that all my actions are the deterministic results of everything leading up to that point, so I can blame my murderous rampage on the big bang. After all my psychology is shaped by my parenting, and my parents were shaped by theirs, and so on and so forth.
Can I also sue my employer for psychologically manipulating me to spend 8 hours of my day working at a job?
Could I also sue my Internet service provider since they provide me this addictive subtance that I need to communicate and function in regular society?
Could I also sue a therapist because many people find relaxing to visit them weekly?
Could I sue the milk companies because I really always enjoy chocolate milk while playing video games?
Could I sue my friends because hanging out with them is such a positively stimulating experience that I can't stop seeing them?
Why does an MMO get this special treatment? Because it ruins lives? I think its quite the opposite. I think that they tend to reach a really broad audience - and that their addictive substance causes no physical side effects like other addictive substances like drugs or alchohol. It's just people that are prone to addictive behavior that notice they become addicted to an MMO. Perhaps better that they get it from an MMO than from a bottle of whiskey. It's a problem with the individual, psychologically manipulated or not, being of that nature where you can be easily psychologically manipulated is an issue that you yourself should have to deal with and overcome, not something a game publisher should have to factor in when they try to make their games as appealing as possible to the masses.
It should get laughed out of court, there should be no question about that at all.
In every article, summary, post, comment, reply, you can easily interchange 'addictive' with 'entertaining'.
Now try it, and see how ridiculous it sounds. NCsoft Sued for Making Lineage II 'Too Entertaining'.
In my philosophy all your actions are of your own responsibility. To reiterate a line from one of my favourite movies
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convinient at the time". This will not suffice."
If you draw away all the religious belief from that statement, I think it can still hold true to morality and law.
Craig's parents may have influenced his upbringing, and NCsoft may have introduced him to an 'addictive' game. Regardless, his actions are his own, he is responsible for them, even if he is not mentally prepared to deal with them properly. Craig's correct course of action when discovering that HE has a problem is to FIX the problem, not exact some sort of revenge on those who SHOWED HIM that he had a problem.
While you bring up a point, I don't think it should matter.
The immediate question is Should Smallwood get 3 Million dollars for playing a video game for 5 years?
It doesn't matter how addictive it is. I could develop Alchoholism but I can't sue Bacardi for keeping me in the hole. It's negligent? What the heck is NCsoft supposed to do? Make Lineage II LESS fun?
I can't believe a judge allowed this case to go forward. On what grounds does developing an addiction allow you to persue a lawsuit? (If thats the case, can't every single smoker in the country sue the cigarette companies for 3 million dollars for every 5 years they smoked, essentially bankrupting that industry?)
Yes but do you have a government regulated one that does your curb every week and are those just the companies that handle the green bins you set up at work / need to call for bigger trash?
Yeah - thats what I was thinking.
They're trying to patent the idea of disabling something remotely? Who here has ever used Blackberry Enterprise Server?
Or am I just trying to confuse you by throwing numbers at you?
Bingo! You now know how Stats work in the court room!
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I heard that once RFID's are in place, the only things that need to upgrade are the actual reading technology, not the signal emission. The RFID itself doesn't need to broadcast any further than a couple meters - its the scanners who pick up the stuff that need improving.
So - right now, we have those issues with signal quality and and obscurity - but thats only going to improve. Would you want to adopt this kind of technology solely on how its going to be used now or are people going to start thinking long term and consider the ramifactions of this a few years down the road.
I agree - a remedial patch SHOULDN'T break the existing applications (and if Microsoft applied it, that would just give the vendors pressure to update their apps! What a role reversal, anyways) - but in case you haven't noticed, a lot of Microsoft's "Fixes" actually "break" functioning operations.
All in the name of security.
If those two particles meet, they don't cancel out - they actually cause a rift in the space-time continuum that is so catastrophic that it convinces people to take out sub-prime home equity loans.
It's a great Idea for Apple products. Because if it breaks, you just send it in to their support and they give you a replacement for the time being (ignoring the fact that you actually need your files right away) while they work on your computer for 4-6 months only to ship you a brand new one in the end. And when its time to upgrade, you just toss your computer out and buy a new one.
What is it with everyone and their demands from hard drive makers?
Don't make them smaller (in physical size) make them more affordable!
Don't make them bigger (in memory) make them faster!
Don't make them hold more, make them more reliable!
Did it ever occur to you guys that maybe, just maybe, SSD manufacturers only know how to do ONE thing?
I'd hardly describe it as "thriving". I'd say the Xbox360 has an indie game scene, that pales in comparison to Microsofts PC indie game scene.
Unless it's persistent (which it isn't), how can they claim that it's a "massively multiplayer"?
Actually, they claim it is persistent. A persistent RTS.
I think they mean to claim that a massive multiplayer not in an MMO but an MMRTS - which would be more than say 16 people in a game, which is usually the current limit due to map restrictions mostly.
That just means we have the opportunity to make our own captions!
i can haz kitenz?
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To quote one of my favourite movies,
"Boy, do I hate being right all the time!"
The team performed a series of expensive high-fidelity simulations on the Ranger supercomputer to generate a small "reduced model" which was transferred to a Google Android smart phone
This is like saying that watching Toy Story on your iPhone leveraged the massive renderfarm used by Pixar.
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See how I used the word bit there to describe something really tiny? Maybe that has something to do with its referencing the physical "bit". As in, it overlaps both the digital bit and the physical bit. /whisper
It's funny how people can't seem to get the timing right on account setups and closures.
Its always
"The new guy is at his desk, and he doesn't have a computer." And you go "What new guy? I wasn't informed"
And then inversely its "Jacobs is being sacked tomorrow, friday, at 5:00pm. Secure his stuff."
I'd much rather be told about new people in advance and told about people leaving after the fact.