Doing a search for technica reveals that slashdot links to that site frequently, yet in terms of content they deliver the same kind of news
Slashdot doesn't create content, but just links to articles. Slashdot is a portal; its only content are the user comments. Ars does great work and their articles are their content. Their stuff is definitely "News For Nerds. Stuff That Matters."
Not being a Mac user, I have a middle button {that isn't meant to be a flame, although it does sound like one..... but bear with me and you'll see} which lets me follow links in a new tab.
Being a Mac user, I have one.;-) I know this wasn't a flame, but just because a Mac doesn't come with a multi-button mouse doesn't mean it can't use one. Mine's set to F9 (Expose's minimize).
Someone else asked about the name of the Apple history viewer. Didn't it use QuickTime 3d and may have been called Project X? I seem to have some memory associating that technology with Ayn Rand....
I don't know what his definition is... My definition is a distro suitable for newbies to install and maintain. Mandrake is, xandros is, gentoo isn't, slack isn't. Newbie distro means that a newbie is the minimum target.
Now of course someone will come along and say well gentoo is easy to install, slackware is easy to install... and that is of course their opinion. The more instructions a product needs the worst it is for a newbie.
I'll buy that, but there's also the segment of us who don't want to screw around with modelines, XF86 configs, fdisk, etc, etc. I mostly live in the Mac World Where Everything Just Works(tm), and my linux box is a tool; I don't want to make a career of screwing with it. I moved to Mandrake from years of Caldera use (yeah, yeah, I know...), but to me the ease of use is a plus that a lot of people seem to sneer at (not you; you're just the guy I'm replying to). As far as I'm concerned, that attitude is an impediment to getting a widespread adoption of linux on the desktop.
However, Mandrake is one of the absolute best newbie/intro distros of all time, IMHO, and it's damned good to see them come back from the dead.
I'm curious--what makes something a newbie distro vs. anything else? By virtue of the fact that things Just Work? You don't need to fire up an xterm and remember 311k arcane commands to do common administrative tasks, that there are GUI front ends? That you don't have to build it from scratch (hello, Gentoo)? If that's the case, call me a newbie.
OK, I'm game - we'll see who can waste more of who's time. Hint: there are five and half billion-odd of us and only 250-something million of you. Why should my valuable time be consumed by fuckheaded US politicos that personally I'd be happy to see burnt at the stake?
Fine--the solution then is to stay away from any fuckheaded US web sites, right?
This is a tough one. While it bothers the hell out of me to pay for the n Spanish-language channels we get (why isn't there a separate package just for that?), it was sure nice to be able to switch to the NASA channel on Saturday to watch the X-43 launch. I don't think I would have had that otherwise--my cheapness would have overridden my geekiness....
For stability, XFree is much nicer; if an app goes down or spins it's wheels looking for a resource, the rest of the system doesn't care one whit.
Not in my world. I've seen X clobber a system so hard that not only couldn't you switch to another tty, you couldn't even ssh in. Next steps, power button -> fsck.....
Linux isn't being laughed at. OS/2 was only taken seriously at the begining, and quickly became the ugly step child (though technically it was quite nice though prone to crash/lock the UI).
I think Linux will clear the hurdle....
I'm starting to see job listings specifically asking for Linux experience crop up in various places. My OS/2 experience never seemed to be important to anyone.
Yeah, but it looks like your OS/2 experience would come in handy when X locks up on you....
It's also a market rejection of a small selection, crappy user interface and prices twice as high as the competition. I think that those factors had much more effect than the DRM.
I wouldn't know--I couldn't get that far on my Mac or my Mandrake box....
... that this is a market rejection of their heavy-handed MS-based, Windoze-only DRM; it was way too problematic. Plus, if you'll recall from when this service debuted, you didn't buy the music a la iTunes, but rather you in effect were leasing it.
...is another's treasure, or something like that. My sole comment is that there's a native version of Office for OS X and OO.org would expect me to use a butt-ugly X11 version. Microsoft wins that round....
Microsoft Office vs OpenOffice" document, published by Microsoft in... PDF format.
Amusing...
How so? Would you rather it be a.doc like most things MS releases? Last paper of theirs that I downloaded was a.doc with the Word 2003 weirdisms that wouldn't even open in Word X without killing it. I like PDF; everything can read it no problem, even linux.
Wired News has a story about how American companies are outsourcing not because of cheap labor but because of the American school system not being up to snuff. In a report by the AeA, they contend that American schools don't teach enough math and science anymore.
And how much math and science is needed in manufacturing at the labor end (vs design) (China) or all of the call centers/ medical support industries (India)? The US educational system may bite, but this is sophistry; this is a reaction to the bad press outsourcing is getting. Most of the jobs don't demand engineering/medical-level math and science.
Mac users are very parochial about the UI. I don't mind using X to run useful apps like Unison, but most would.
Exactly. I had that experience today firing up The GIMP 2 under OS X today for the first time. It's the first time that I've fired up any X app other than an x-term (never had any need to) and the dichotomy between the two UI's made me want to puke. So, I quit GIMP, fired up Photoshop and give it a big electronic hug.
...other that moving applications from NLM to ELF, I don't see any giant advantages to this on the server end. We already have apache, tomcat, ssh, etc, etc for Netware. And on the desktop, I have memories of Novell trying to take on MS once before and failing horribly. I'm skeptical. I can't see how any "synergy" with Linux will make Netware a better product than it already is--aside from the PR buzz it's getting and the goodwill from the Linux community.
It's called the.NET runtime, and when Longhorn comes out and EVERYTHING including Windows itself is running on.NET libraries, you're going to have some damn secure systems. What will Slashdotters find to bitch about next? There's always something--it's impossible to satisfy people around here. The friggin' sky is always falling.
Color me cynical, but didn't MS tout the absolute security of W2k3? And Win2k before that? Sorry, with their record they're guilty until proven innocent.
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Doing a search for technica reveals that slashdot links to that site frequently, yet in terms of content they deliver the same kind of news
Slashdot doesn't create content, but just links to articles. Slashdot is a portal; its only content are the user comments. Ars does great work and their articles are their content. Their stuff is definitely "News For Nerds. Stuff That Matters."
Not being a Mac user, I have a middle button {that isn't meant to be a flame, although it does sound like one ..... but bear with me and you'll see} which lets me follow links in a new tab.
;-) I know this wasn't a flame, but just because a Mac doesn't come with a multi-button mouse doesn't mean it can't use one.
Being a Mac user, I have one.
Mine's set to F9 (Expose's minimize).
Someone else asked about the name of the Apple history viewer. Didn't it use QuickTime 3d and may have been called Project X? I seem to have some memory associating that technology with Ayn Rand....
I don't know what his definition is... My definition is a distro suitable for newbies to install and maintain. Mandrake is, xandros is, gentoo isn't, slack isn't. Newbie distro means that a newbie is the minimum target.
Now of course someone will come along and say well gentoo is easy to install, slackware is easy to install... and that is of course their opinion. The more instructions a product needs the worst it is for a newbie.
I'll buy that, but there's also the segment of us who don't want to screw around with modelines, XF86 configs, fdisk, etc, etc.
I mostly live in the Mac World Where Everything Just Works(tm), and my linux box is a tool; I don't want to make a career of screwing with it. I moved to Mandrake from years of Caldera use (yeah, yeah, I know...), but to me the ease of use is a plus that a lot of people seem to sneer at (not you; you're just the guy I'm replying to). As far as I'm concerned, that attitude is an impediment to getting a widespread adoption of linux on the desktop.
However, Mandrake is one of the absolute best newbie/intro distros of all time, IMHO, and it's damned good to see them come back from the dead.
I'm curious--what makes something a newbie distro vs. anything else? By virtue of the fact that things Just Work? You don't need to fire up an xterm and remember 311k arcane commands to do common administrative tasks, that there are GUI front ends? That you don't have to build it from scratch (hello, Gentoo)?
If that's the case, call me a newbie.
You mean unlike today, where anything we build now will be payed for by our grandchildren. :-)
Modded funny??? Insightful, maybe, pathetically true, maybe, but definitely not funny.
If this means I get "Vote for Bush" popups in Australia I'm going to be very upset.
I'd prefer a 12" penis any day!
Ouch.
OK, I'm game - we'll see who can waste more of who's time. Hint: there are five and half billion-odd of us and only 250-something million of you. Why should my valuable time be consumed by fuckheaded US politicos that personally I'd be happy to see burnt at the stake?
Fine--the solution then is to stay away from any fuckheaded US web sites, right?
This is a tough one. While it bothers the hell out of me to pay for the n Spanish-language channels we get (why isn't there a separate package just for that?), it was sure nice to be able to switch to the NASA channel on Saturday to watch the X-43 launch. I don't think I would have had that otherwise--my cheapness would have overridden my geekiness....
Before we get to all the anti-India comments
Can we bash Pakistan instead?
....shit just happens. There are many more things that we could be busting on Verizon about than this....
Oops, I guess I should have said "pre-2.6 kernels." I haven't taken that plunge yet....
For stability, XFree is much nicer; if an app goes down or spins it's wheels looking for a resource, the rest of the system doesn't care one whit.
Not in my world. I've seen X clobber a system so hard that not only couldn't you switch to another tty, you couldn't even ssh in. Next steps, power button -> fsck.....
Linux isn't being laughed at. OS/2 was only taken seriously at the begining, and quickly became the ugly step child (though technically it was quite nice though prone to crash/lock the UI). I think Linux will clear the hurdle....
I'm starting to see job listings specifically asking for Linux experience crop up in various places. My OS/2 experience never seemed to be important to anyone.
Yeah, but it looks like your OS/2 experience would come in handy when X locks up on you....
It's also a market rejection of a small selection, crappy user interface and prices twice as high as the competition. I think that those factors had much more effect than the DRM.
I wouldn't know--I couldn't get that far on my Mac or my Mandrake box....
... that this is a market rejection of their heavy-handed MS-based, Windoze-only DRM; it was way too problematic.
Plus, if you'll recall from when this service debuted, you didn't buy the music a la iTunes, but rather you in effect were leasing it.
...is another's treasure, or something like that.
My sole comment is that there's a native version of Office for OS X and OO.org would expect me to use a butt-ugly X11 version. Microsoft wins that round....
first, they ignore you
then, they laugh at you
then, they fight you [-- you are here
then you win
Will step 4 happen? Stay tuned.
That's step 4b, conditional on step 4a not happening: Being assimilated.
Microsoft Office vs OpenOffice" document, published by Microsoft in ... PDF format.
.doc like most things MS releases? Last paper of theirs that I downloaded was a .doc with the Word 2003 weirdisms that wouldn't even open in Word X without killing it.
Amusing...
How so? Would you rather it be a
I like PDF; everything can read it no problem, even linux.
Wired News has a story about how American companies are outsourcing not because of cheap labor but because of the American school system not being up to snuff. In a report by the AeA, they contend that American schools don't teach enough math and science anymore.
And how much math and science is needed in manufacturing at the labor end (vs design) (China) or all of the call centers/ medical support industries (India)?
The US educational system may bite, but this is sophistry; this is a reaction to the bad press outsourcing is getting. Most of the jobs don't demand engineering/medical-level math and science.
Mac users are very parochial about the UI. I don't mind using X to run useful apps like Unison, but most would.
Exactly. I had that experience today firing up The GIMP 2 under OS X today for the first time. It's the first time that I've fired up any X app other than an x-term (never had any need to) and the dichotomy between the two UI's made me want to puke.
So, I quit GIMP, fired up Photoshop and give it a big electronic hug.
Can't blame them for trying...I just hope they have the good sense to back off if they find someone using p2p for legal uses...
Yeah, and you could probably count all of those people on your fingers and toes...and still be able to walk while doing it.
...other that moving applications from NLM to ELF, I don't see any giant advantages to this on the server end. We already have apache, tomcat, ssh, etc, etc for Netware.
And on the desktop, I have memories of Novell trying to take on MS once before and failing horribly. I'm skeptical. I can't see how any "synergy" with Linux will make Netware a better product than it already is--aside from the PR buzz it's getting and the goodwill from the Linux community.
And how many vulnerabilities have come out for W2k3? RPC has been the only one, and it affected ALL Windows products.
Only takes one...
It's called the .NET runtime, and when Longhorn comes out and EVERYTHING including Windows itself is running on .NET libraries, you're going to have some damn secure systems. What will Slashdotters find to bitch about next? There's always something--it's impossible to satisfy people around here. The friggin' sky is always falling.
Color me cynical, but didn't MS tout the absolute security of W2k3? And Win2k before that? Sorry, with their record they're guilty until proven innocent.
And now we've got ATMs that feed you advertising for a bunch of crap that you really don't need while they make you wait for your money. Progress, eh?
It is for the banks. Your needs don't matter; you're just a sheep to fleeced.