Rminds me of 2004 when I had 15000 USD to invest. I had two choice Apple at 9 dollars (split adjusted) or AMD at 13 dollar. I put it all on AMD. Wish I had put it on Apple. Today Apple is 125 so I would have had 200K. Stock trading takes a strong stomach
You are confusing techs who swap out machines with software developers. IT is a very broad field. And no H1B can be paid 25K. Prevailing wages in Santa Clara County are 70K minimum. Companies will not bother with an H1B for a 25K job as the H1 process itself costs 10K+
This is an example of the breakdown of the family. Education in India is not cheap. As a ratio to annual income it is more expensive than in the US and loans are hard to get. Entire families make sacrifices to support the education of a promising kid and when that kid does well he supports his younger siblings and cousins. Thats how a poor country is able to create technically trained labor while a rich country is busy buying ATVs and Boats. Yes an Indian immigrant will work cheaper. Every immigrant works cheaper than the locals for he/she does not have choice. The local can choose to work in an industry not open to immigrants for a better salary. To Expect the govt to pay for training because your family is not willing to invest in you and make the necessary sacrifices is just another symptom of people having more loyalty to the state than to the family. Social Security started this breakdown of the family. If you no longer need to have successful children to support you in your old age you are much less willing to make sacrifices for their education. As the state becomes more and more the family at some point children will be brought up in creches like in the Soviet Union while all adults work for the glory of the state. Indian cultural values are those which America used to have while America is becoming more and more Soviet everyday.
The problem is 60K may be low on the west coast for IT but H1Bs are also used to hire nurses and teachers in the midwest. 60K is pretty high over there. Hence the concept of prevailing wages. The H1Bs at our company are paid from 85-130K in the Bay Area. Not Google salaries but still more than the median salary of the Bay Area. With a 2 earner household even at the lower end 170K household income does allow you to buy a house and live the American dream. Yes Bachelors do share apartments. They do so to save up money for Downpayments but also to have some social safety net as they dont have family here- roommates become a pseudo family.
Trump got handed over 100 million dollars from his daddy. Had he put it into a bank FD it would now be worht 5 Billion dollars. Trump is currently worth 4.5 Billion. Thats how good a businessman he is, he cannot beat the returns on a fixed deposit. His daddy and his granddaddy were good businessmen but then they were immigrants 1st and 2nd generation - If you want something done right get an immigrant to do it.
There are no other paths open for legal immigration for non white folks. During the time when any tom dick and harry could immigrate it was kept closed so that only white people could immigrate. When it was opened up to non white people it was choked with country limits and also no more general immigration allowed - only company based and family based which are backed up by decades. The only feasible way for Indians to immigrate is come on an H1, prove they can do the work and have someone sponsor a GC for them. If you shut off the H1-GC pathway you basically want to keep Brown people out. America was built by immigrants. What white immigrants did, brown immigrants do too. Whites went through a 7 year indenture, browns are going through a 6 year H1B. Not much has changed.
I am not saying that 50% mortality rate is true. I am merely saying that the absence of child graves does not prevent it from being true. You need a differnt argument to say the rate is not true. As for modern man even till the last century in rural America 1 out of 3 kids died in infancy. My Grandfather was the eldest of 13 kids. When a cholera epidemic hit within 4 weeks he was one of 2 surviving kids.
When India joined the WTO and opened its economy to US companies like Caterpillar, Boeing and Coca Cola it pushed very hard for WTO to cover not just trade in goods but also in Services. The US succeeded in getting free trade in services pushed to the next round of negotiations but as a compromise created the H1B as a backdoor way so that Indian Software companies could sell services in US and get some dollars flowing back to India (India could not afford to pay dollars to Caterpillar if it could not earn dollars somehow. And given that India had a very well educated population but very poor infrastructure India's competitive advantage was in selling services rather than goods). At this point if the US tries to push back on Indian companies selling services expect pushback on US companies selling goods in India. This would mean jobs lost at Caterpillar and Boeing. It would also mean higher levels of offshoring as there is nothing preventing a TCS or a Wipro from hiring a few Americans too be the onsite team and having the rest of the team in India. Currently the cream of the crop in India moves to US on H1B to be onsite team and then transition to GC, go start their own companies. With that pipeline closed the quality of offshore work will just keep going up till there is very little reason to have onsite teams. The fact of the matter is entry level IT work is now a skill for a developing country just like sewing jeans or making shoes. Market forces are forcing these jobs overseas. The H1B program has temporarily kept some of the jobs in the US but with the H1B being crppled the flow of jobs going overseas will just speed up
The assumption in your argument is in house are better. Many would say if you want the best go to a firm who specialize in IT rather than trying to build your own out of scotch tape and servers.
Has US bombed or supported rebels in Saudi? No Pakistan is more complicated. They should be on the list but Pakistan has a very strong Congressional lobby (They get away with all kinds of proliferation which no other country would be able to get away with) But I agree they should be on the list
Further the ban should not be absolute. As we are fighting wars in these countries we need to have a way to support our collaboraotrs there. So special immigrant visas for translators should not have been blocked.
Desperate looking to deal with an immediate need describes the Manhattan project. Great things are achieved by desperate folks. Comfortable folks hardly ever achieve great stuff
Seems like they believed you and brought the work back to US and are thus facing operational issues. IT needs a crazy work ethic or massive overstaffing to ensure everything runs soothly during the peak bug periods. Once you work with Indian companies where you staff with the minimum but stuff keeps running because folks give up their nights and weekends and then you try to bring the work back to US but with same levels of staffing you run into these problems. Either you need to have extra folks or you need to build the same work ethic into Americans (which will only happen if there is widespread poverty in America and IT workers are thankful to have a job. Trump has made a good start on that path)
Planes might be a technical enterprise. Airlines are not. They are mostly marketing and financial engineering. Everything else can and is subcontracted out.
IT is important to the operation hence you outsource it to those who specialize in IT. Airports are also critical to Deltas operations. Delta doesnt try to run Airports does it?
All 7 countries are countries where the US has actively supported Terrorism and/or rebel movements which have caused a lot of deaths. Stands to reason many secular folks from these countries might want to come into US under false pretences to target the terrorist supporting state of USA at the source. This is not a Muslim Ban. This is an Enemy Civilians Ban. We are at undeclared war with all 7 of these countries and have a lot of blood on our hands. Stands to reason to keep out people who might be seeking revenge against us for our terrorism.
California has a bunch of shuttered Nuclear plants which can be brought online in an emergency. red Californians are not seceding back. Most of the farmland is useless without water piped over from North California's liberal areas. Plus the majority population in the farm areas are Hispanic farmworkers. Very easy for a new govt to handover the land to those who actually operate the machines and grow the food rather than the Republican reactionaries with their names on the deeds. After all last time CA changed hands all the land with Mexican owners got their deeds invalidated and Gringos got handed out free land. No reason why ill-gotten gains cant be taken away.
CA doesnt need guns. CA builds nuclear missiles and Fighter Jets and Tanks. Guns are toys. real power flows through the barrel of a multiple Launch Rocket system and guess who builds them? Flyover country provides the cannon fodder to operate the weapons but in a pinch Californians can operate the machines too.
Japan surrendered because the soviets attacked. But without the nuclear bomb Stalin would have proceeded to occupy Japan and the Japanese would be Russofied instead of Americanized. The Nuclear bomb made Stalin pause.
Actually the Pilgrims were religious fanatics who left Netherland because the Dutch were forcing them to respect the religious freedoms of Catholics and not attack them simply for being not protestant. People after Trump's own heart. What people dont understand is that Europe went through its 100 year war and 30 year war where Protestants and Catholics killed each other till the fanatics were eliminated and people learned to live with each other. The ISIS of the day - those who would not live in peace at any cost- went to the USA. That USA is much more religious than Europe is part of its history. That it is more susceptible to the Christian equivalent of ISIS is also part of this cultural makeup. Baghdadi and Trump two sides of the same coin.
Why would von Braun go to the gallows? He developed weapons which were used in a war against a legitimate enemy. What part of that is illegal? The illegal part was capturing a POW and forcing him to work for you by threatening his family. The only criminal in this is Truman not von Braun
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Rminds me of 2004 when I had 15000 USD to invest. I had two choice Apple at 9 dollars (split adjusted) or AMD at 13 dollar. I put it all on AMD. Wish I had put it on Apple. Today Apple is 125 so I would have had 200K. Stock trading takes a strong stomach
Good now maybe they will pay their contractors more than 74 Dollars an hour. Cost of living is going up
You are confusing techs who swap out machines with software developers. IT is a very broad field. And no H1B can be paid 25K. Prevailing wages in Santa Clara County are 70K minimum. Companies will not bother with an H1B for a 25K job as the H1 process itself costs 10K+
This is an example of the breakdown of the family. Education in India is not cheap. As a ratio to annual income it is more expensive than in the US and loans are hard to get. Entire families make sacrifices to support the education of a promising kid and when that kid does well he supports his younger siblings and cousins. Thats how a poor country is able to create technically trained labor while a rich country is busy buying ATVs and Boats. Yes an Indian immigrant will work cheaper. Every immigrant works cheaper than the locals for he/she does not have choice. The local can choose to work in an industry not open to immigrants for a better salary. To Expect the govt to pay for training because your family is not willing to invest in you and make the necessary sacrifices is just another symptom of people having more loyalty to the state than to the family. Social Security started this breakdown of the family. If you no longer need to have successful children to support you in your old age you are much less willing to make sacrifices for their education. As the state becomes more and more the family at some point children will be brought up in creches like in the Soviet Union while all adults work for the glory of the state. Indian cultural values are those which America used to have while America is becoming more and more Soviet everyday.
The problem is 60K may be low on the west coast for IT but H1Bs are also used to hire nurses and teachers in the midwest. 60K is pretty high over there. Hence the concept of prevailing wages. The H1Bs at our company are paid from 85-130K in the Bay Area. Not Google salaries but still more than the median salary of the Bay Area. With a 2 earner household even at the lower end 170K household income does allow you to buy a house and live the American dream. Yes Bachelors do share apartments. They do so to save up money for Downpayments but also to have some social safety net as they dont have family here- roommates become a pseudo family.
"Cant figure out how to stop the religious wars in their homelands so come to America to reap its Bounty" Sounds like the Pilgrims.
Trump got handed over 100 million dollars from his daddy. Had he put it into a bank FD it would now be worht 5 Billion dollars. Trump is currently worth 4.5 Billion. Thats how good a businessman he is, he cannot beat the returns on a fixed deposit. His daddy and his granddaddy were good businessmen but then they were immigrants 1st and 2nd generation - If you want something done right get an immigrant to do it.
There are no other paths open for legal immigration for non white folks. During the time when any tom dick and harry could immigrate it was kept closed so that only white people could immigrate. When it was opened up to non white people it was choked with country limits and also no more general immigration allowed - only company based and family based which are backed up by decades. The only feasible way for Indians to immigrate is come on an H1, prove they can do the work and have someone sponsor a GC for them. If you shut off the H1-GC pathway you basically want to keep Brown people out. America was built by immigrants. What white immigrants did, brown immigrants do too. Whites went through a 7 year indenture, browns are going through a 6 year H1B. Not much has changed.
I am not saying that 50% mortality rate is true. I am merely saying that the absence of child graves does not prevent it from being true. You need a differnt argument to say the rate is not true. As for modern man even till the last century in rural America 1 out of 3 kids died in infancy. My Grandfather was the eldest of 13 kids. When a cholera epidemic hit within 4 weeks he was one of 2 surviving kids.
When India joined the WTO and opened its economy to US companies like Caterpillar, Boeing and Coca Cola it pushed very hard for WTO to cover not just trade in goods but also in Services. The US succeeded in getting free trade in services pushed to the next round of negotiations but as a compromise created the H1B as a backdoor way so that Indian Software companies could sell services in US and get some dollars flowing back to India (India could not afford to pay dollars to Caterpillar if it could not earn dollars somehow. And given that India had a very well educated population but very poor infrastructure India's competitive advantage was in selling services rather than goods). At this point if the US tries to push back on Indian companies selling services expect pushback on US companies selling goods in India. This would mean jobs lost at Caterpillar and Boeing. It would also mean higher levels of offshoring as there is nothing preventing a TCS or a Wipro from hiring a few Americans too be the onsite team and having the rest of the team in India. Currently the cream of the crop in India moves to US on H1B to be onsite team and then transition to GC, go start their own companies. With that pipeline closed the quality of offshore work will just keep going up till there is very little reason to have onsite teams. The fact of the matter is entry level IT work is now a skill for a developing country just like sewing jeans or making shoes. Market forces are forcing these jobs overseas. The H1B program has temporarily kept some of the jobs in the US but with the H1B being crppled the flow of jobs going overseas will just speed up
The assumption in your argument is in house are better. Many would say if you want the best go to a firm who specialize in IT rather than trying to build your own out of scotch tape and servers.
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He died? Or did the Aliens from Oixel kidnap him to teach them to make better video game villains
Has US bombed or supported rebels in Saudi? No
Pakistan is more complicated. They should be on the list but Pakistan has a very strong Congressional lobby (They get away with all kinds of proliferation which no other country would be able to get away with) But I agree they should be on the list
Further the ban should not be absolute. As we are fighting wars in these countries we need to have a way to support our collaboraotrs there. So special immigrant visas for translators should not have been blocked.
Desperate looking to deal with an immediate need describes the Manhattan project. Great things are achieved by desperate folks. Comfortable folks hardly ever achieve great stuff
Seems like they believed you and brought the work back to US and are thus facing operational issues. IT needs a crazy work ethic or massive overstaffing to ensure everything runs soothly during the peak bug periods. Once you work with Indian companies where you staff with the minimum but stuff keeps running because folks give up their nights and weekends and then you try to bring the work back to US but with same levels of staffing you run into these problems. Either you need to have extra folks or you need to build the same work ethic into Americans (which will only happen if there is widespread poverty in America and IT workers are thankful to have a job. Trump has made a good start on that path)
Planes might be a technical enterprise. Airlines are not. They are mostly marketing and financial engineering. Everything else can and is subcontracted out.
IT is important to the operation hence you outsource it to those who specialize in IT. Airports are also critical to Deltas operations. Delta doesnt try to run Airports does it?
Maybe the guy supposed to do the antivirus patching couldnt get back from his holiday after the ban :)
All 7 countries are countries where the US has actively supported Terrorism and/or rebel movements which have caused a lot of deaths. Stands to reason many secular folks from these countries might want to come into US under false pretences to target the terrorist supporting state of USA at the source. This is not a Muslim Ban. This is an Enemy Civilians Ban. We are at undeclared war with all 7 of these countries and have a lot of blood on our hands. Stands to reason to keep out people who might be seeking revenge against us for our terrorism.
California has a bunch of shuttered Nuclear plants which can be brought online in an emergency. red Californians are not seceding back. Most of the farmland is useless without water piped over from North California's liberal areas. Plus the majority population in the farm areas are Hispanic farmworkers. Very easy for a new govt to handover the land to those who actually operate the machines and grow the food rather than the Republican reactionaries with their names on the deeds. After all last time CA changed hands all the land with Mexican owners got their deeds invalidated and Gringos got handed out free land. No reason why ill-gotten gains cant be taken away.
CA doesnt need guns. CA builds nuclear missiles and Fighter Jets and Tanks. Guns are toys. real power flows through the barrel of a multiple Launch Rocket system and guess who builds them? Flyover country provides the cannon fodder to operate the weapons but in a pinch Californians can operate the machines too.
Japan surrendered because the soviets attacked. But without the nuclear bomb Stalin would have proceeded to occupy Japan and the Japanese would be Russofied instead of Americanized. The Nuclear bomb made Stalin pause.
Actually the Pilgrims were religious fanatics who left Netherland because the Dutch were forcing them to respect the religious freedoms of Catholics and not attack them simply for being not protestant. People after Trump's own heart.
What people dont understand is that Europe went through its 100 year war and 30 year war where Protestants and Catholics killed each other till the fanatics were eliminated and people learned to live with each other. The ISIS of the day - those who would not live in peace at any cost- went to the USA. That USA is much more religious than Europe is part of its history. That it is more susceptible to the Christian equivalent of ISIS is also part of this cultural makeup. Baghdadi and Trump two sides of the same coin.
Why would von Braun go to the gallows? He developed weapons which were used in a war against a legitimate enemy. What part of that is illegal? The illegal part was capturing a POW and forcing him to work for you by threatening his family. The only criminal in this is Truman not von Braun