The hell you say! That page has been loading for 2 minutes and I don't see *any* pictures. Liar!:-)
Time to skim the rest of the thread and see if anyone's mirroring them. Just need to skip over all the jokes about "guess they're running the site off one, haw haw."
What is the actual date? 11/11/2003 hasn't happened yet. (Note: I actually want to know. See? I asked nicely and didn't make fun of you. That was a polite question, not "U R TEH SUCK!!!!11":-) )
" Every few months... the people in charge... would have a meltdown, send out a message telling everyone how much he'd... suffered, how ungrateful the users were..."
They aren't quitting because they feel unappreciated. They're quitting because they can't pay thousands of actual real dollars to fight and/or buy more bandwidth. They aren't saying "My friends aren't nice to me", they're saying "The bad guys won."
I used to work with a guy who was a CE (civil engineer) and then went to law school. Made about $400k/year in the early 90s. Bridge falls over? Call him.
A high-school spanish book had a little saying at the end of each chapter. (Example--"No todo lo que brillo es oro"--All that glitters is not gold.) One showed a girl sad that she got a 97 on a test (with a thought baloon showing 100) and a guy happy that he got a 55, with a thought bubble showing "0." The caption (I don't remember it in Spanish) was "There is no stroke of luck that couldn't be better and no misfortune that couldn't be worse."
At my college (CSU, Chico) the library uses the Library of Congress system. Anyone know if that is free? If it originated with the taxpayer-supported US Gov, I would think it should be free.
What bugs *me* about MP3 players is the way when they first started coming out, they said a 32 MB model could hold "up to an hour of CD-quality music" which is BS because a 128k mp3 takes 1 MB per minute, so 32 MB ~= 1/2 hour. You'd have to encode your music at 64 kbps to fit 1 hour onto a 32 MB device. It's questionable to call a 128k mp3 "cd-quality" but a 64k mp3? No f'ing way.
Luckily LA is an 8 hour drive from Mountain View. BTW, I'm from the bay area originally & visited last week. My mom works across the street from Google. Of course I had to go there and get my picture taken in front of it. I was happy to see their signs--they have buildings 0, pi, and e.
here in Florida (and fourteen other states) it is illegal for adults to leave a gun where a minor can access it without supervision. Of course, it'd be nice if gun-owning parents rasied their kids with a healthy respect for guns in the first place, but lacking that, I'd rather see the parents in the clink than the GTA devs.
Thanks for the linek, I'll have to look at that. Nice little secret, like how if you wan the newest OS/2, you have to know to look for eComStation. (from ecomstation.com: eComStation 1.1 provides users with a low cost package which includes the most up to date distribution of IBM OS/2 4.52.)
They couldn't have, even if they would have wanted to. Remember back in '98/99 when everyone was sprinkling the Open Source fairy dust on every project with a somewhat bleak outlook? Be had a page on their site explaining why they couldn't do that--that there was a lot of 3rd-party closed code. Kind of like how OpenOffice doesn't have Star Office's Adabas database except it wasn't possible to just break of a chunk of BeOS and say "OK, that's closed, the rest is open." Maybe wayback has the page or someone else has it archived somewhere.
But to most people, $23M is a lot of money. Are you saying that anyone should be able to do anything without question as long as they're able to settle for less than 0.1% of their net worth? I know the point of settling without admitting is the same as "it's cheaper for us to settle than to fight" but c'mon, $23fuckingMillion? Like James Garner said in "Barbarians at the Gates (no pun intended)", "That's like trying to sweep a ton of elephant shit under the rug."
You're right, it's an imperfect system; scarily similar to cops who say "If you weren't guilty, why did you run (from four big men in dark suits with guns)?" But there are limits.
DirecTiVo: $249 Usage: $4.95/mo Upgrade to 120 GB HD: $120 Add another 120 a few months later: $90 Total recording time: about 220 hours (reported by info screen) Seeing someone post a list of prices without a "priceless" joke at the end: priceless. (doh!)
"...almost 15 per cent of films will be viewed by "on-demand" services such as rather than by DVD or video by 2005."
So all codec, player, bandwidth, and DRM issues will be ironed out in the next 15 months? Sweet.
</sarcasm>
I don't know where I first heard it, but the best way to do on-demand (at least for a handful of current films) would be to send them to your TiVo in the middle of the night withou you even requesting it, then you just pay for a key to unlock it. But still, I'm big into ownership--pretty much anything worth seeing is worth paying $10-$20 to have forever.
I respect your opinion and your experiences but there is nothing--nothing--that cannot be joked about. Everyone has something near and dear to them that they don't like to hear jokes about, but it's different for every person, and no one has the right to say "This one subject can *never* be joked about." I'm sure you've told jokes that would offend me--things that might make me say "Dammit, *that* crossed the line." But I wouldn't say that because I know that everyone has a different line. Think about it--where does prison sex fall on a scale that includes starvation, genocide, the Holocaust, Shuttle disasters, 9/11, the Gulf wars, Christ's crucifixion, the Kennedy assassination, and everything else bad in the world? Is it OK to joke about these things but not the fact that a bunch of convicted criminals sodomize a bunch of other criminals? Or would you rather live in a world where jokes aren't allowed because someone, somewhere might get their feelings hurt?
No, I'm not saying the guy deserves to get raped for what he did; on the other hand*, he's an adult and he intentionally did something that was malicious and illegal. And (as it happes, thanks to prison sex jokes) he should have known *exactly* what he was in for if he got caught. He figured he wouldn't get caught and decided to piss off the world. I say, fuck him. (Figuratively, that is. Once again, I'm not in favor of *anyone* getting raped--male, female; straight, gay; vaginally, anally, or otherwise.) Let the son of a bitch rot.
* all of the following assumes he actually is guilty and a guilty verdict gets returned
>>>The Mac is easier to use. >>Arguable. Mostly depends on what you're used to. I've... >But - easier to use for advanced users?... For me, actually, yes--the PC is still miles ahead of Mac when it comes to keyboard shortcuts, especially at the OS level. I like the fact that I have control-F to find things in any app but can always, instantly, get an OS-find with Windows-F, compared to the Mac where you have to click the desktop, then command-F. And so on, and so on. Nothing more than personal preference. To each his own. If you like OS X more, you won't hear an argument from me.
>Could go either way. The other question is what do your >friends, who will (hopefully) guide you through your >dark days, use? >Counterpoint - 10 people come up to me and say "my > computer keeps rebooting...". I just shrung and say >"Sorry mac, I have an Apple". Sometimes it's good to be > alone.:-)
On our side, true. But new users will go with the majority to avoid people like you.:-)
You next points were all good and I have little argument with any. My main point is that most people (and many companies) look at two things: "what is cheapest today?" and "what are most people using?" They don't see past the end of their nose and don't know what they're missing (fewer viruses, better built-in mail client*, etc.) by not going the Mac route.
* good point about Mail.app. I didn't think of that since I have never, ever a) used LookOut or b) used a Mac for email. Eudora 1.5.4, ca. 1996, not a virus yet.:-)
>Peace of mind and lack of spyware - priceless. LOL.
>Only the PC is the gift that keeps on taking, as it were. Good line.
>It is ***a*** [emphasis added] complicated photoshop benchmark.
Well, if you're going to do that exact task (rotate 90 degrees, then 9, then 0.9?!?!?*), the G5 is obviously the way to go. Now read this little nugget from barefeats.com, a great pro-Mac site that pits Macs against PCs but is honest enough to admit when Macs fall short:
"I tested a 1.3GHz Centrino laptop (12" screen) recently. At first I was going to compare it to the 12" PowerBook. But it ran CineBench 2003 100% faster than the PowerBook G4/1GHz (17" screen). It ran Photoshop 20% faster. It ran Quake3 103% faster in 640x480 "Fastest" mode. The 17" PowerBook did, however, run Quake3 84% faster in 1024x768 "Max" mode. Probably has more video memory."
The point is, any CPU can beat any other CPU at certain tasks. Depends on what you're measuring. I once tested (years ago) an AMD K6/2-450 against a dual-PPro. Thanks to more MHz and a faster system bus, the AMD edged out the PPros in most tasks by a consistant 10-20%. But the PPro *spanked* the AMD (I mean, by 3:1 or 4:1) on some tests. Whatever the strength was--FPU, integer, whatever--there were some things it was *great* at. If I would have published just those results, would you have bought one?
* I bet my old dual-PPro would win if I rotated the image 99.9 degrees in one step. 90 & 9 took 3.5 seconds for the Mac.:-)
I use the old dead freeware gadget "Cycles" to watch both G4s in separate graphs, it's interesting seeing each processor's load.
There's also/Applications/Utilities/CPU Monitor.:-) I recommend "extended view". Green = user, red = system, blue = niced. Close the main window, open the prefs, and tell it to use Extended view in the app's dock icon. Then go to system prefs and drop it into the login items folder, and tell it "hide" so it isn't the active app when you log in.
Course, that's all OS X. Not sure if you're using it or not.
Arguable. Mostly depends on what you're used to. I've been around plenty of noobs with their shiny new boxes. I've seen people take to Windows with no problem, and I've seen people trip up over Mac OS X. Could go either way. The other question is what do your friends, who will (hopefully) guide you through your dark days, use?
>Now it's also as fast (or significantly FASTER) the the PC.
For the sake of argument, let's just say that both are equally well suited for common consumer tasks: web browsing, digital cameras, email, burning CDs, average 3D games. Stay away from fancy stuff for a second--no firewire 800, no DVD burning, etc. Still with me? OK, good.
>It runs all the commercial apps you need.
Unless you want games, or cheap clip art, or scores of other things. Most people do *not* buy MS Office for their home computers--the use MS Works or AppleWorks or whatever comes with them. Most also steer towards cheap photo editors (more than jusr rotate & enhance that iPhoto offers) like PSP or the cheap Adobe products, rather than Quark-Photoshop-Illustrator stuff.
>It can emulate proprietary in-house apps with VirtualPC.
For only $300 more (Win XP version). Yes, you can put your pirated copy of Win98 on if you buy the $120 DOS-only version, but how many noobs know to do that?
>It can play all the latest games, even if they laga couple months (get a PS2, also!).
So after you've bought your expensive (see below) Mac, you recommend a $150 console too?
>It's UNIX under the hood and runs X11 for added compatability.
True. But what do noobs want UNIX for? Without a nearby geek, they don't. Period.
>All of this, and it's not any more expensive than comparable PC hardware.
store.apple.com: base 1.6 GHz G5, $2000. (no monitor.) 1.4 GHz G4s, get'em while you can, $1300. Base 800 MHz eMac, $800.
dell.com/tv: 2.4 GHz P4, 17" monitor, sometimes a free upgrade to a 15" LCD: $500.
PCs will continue to dominate (what is it, 20:1?) due to economics alone. Will they cost more in the long run due to viruses and whatnot? Who knows. Will the user have a more pleasurable experience with one or the other? Who knows. Is it better to spend $500 today than $800 today? Yes--*everyone* knows that one.
Not saying Macs aren't great (I'm sure the last few major viruses changed some minds), just saying what reality is. Also, I'm not saying Apple is going under. Far from it--they've got high-margin hardware (plus iPods and iTMS and whatnot) that sells just fine, thakyouverymuch. The BMW/Ford analogy explains it all.
PS--FYI, I work (two jobs, no less) as a (primarily) Mac tech and own both Macs and PCs.
PPS--the Red v. Blue page was a joke, a parody, that made use of exaggeration. Just so you know.:-)
I ran OS X (starting with 10.0.3, then 10.1.x) on a Beige G3 266 at work for a couple years. I also ran 10.1 on my home beige G3/300 for quite a while. It was as slow as death. I also thought it was painfully slow on my non-QuartzExtreme Dual-533 MHz G4. IMNSHO, OS X is horrible on any non-QE Mac. It runs better on an 800 MHz G3 iBook with QE than on a dual-533 without.
Whenever I would post these sentiments on macslash, idiots would come out of the woodwork telling me to quit spreading FUD and that OS X ran "peppy enough" on their unsupported 9600. So, if you're OK dealing with an OS that takes a painful amount of time to run (like 5 seconds to launch Terminal; a Finder that feels like its underwater) then go ahead. If not, don't even run OS X on anything beige or blue & white except as a file or web server. (Which it's great at--OS X will serve files 4x faster (yes, I've timed it) than Personal File Sharing under OS 9.)
Save up and get an iBook or eMac which are currently give the best bang for the buck. eMac: pro: G4, superdrive available. con: big, heavy, built-in monitor. iBook: pro: portable, slick, 1024x768, CD-RW/DVD option. con: G3. But, as I said, QE makes it quite usable. Both are in the $700-$1200 range depending on if you get them refurbished or not and what kind of options you order.
It was impossible to run Mac OS on BeBoxes which used the same Motorola 60X's as Macs at the time. AFAIK, Mac OS absolutely *will not run* unless Apple blesses the BIOS or something similar. In other words, it won't ever run on a montherboard that doesn't come from them. PPC != Apple.
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The hell you say! That page has been loading for 2 minutes and I don't see *any* pictures. Liar! :-)
Time to skim the rest of the thread and see if anyone's mirroring them. Just need to skip over all the jokes about "guess they're running the site off one, haw haw."
What is the actual date? 11/11/2003 hasn't happened yet. (Note: I actually want to know. See? I asked nicely and didn't make fun of you. That was a polite question, not "U R TEH SUCK!!!!11" :-) )
" Every few months... the people in charge... would have a meltdown, send out a message telling everyone how much he'd... suffered, how ungrateful the users were..."
They aren't quitting because they feel unappreciated. They're quitting because they can't pay thousands of actual real dollars to fight and/or buy more bandwidth. They aren't saying "My friends aren't nice to me", they're saying "The bad guys won."
I used to work with a guy who was a CE (civil engineer) and then went to law school. Made about $400k/year in the early 90s. Bridge falls over? Call him.
Or it could just be that *everyone* is dishonest *and* horny, duh. :-)
A high-school spanish book had a little saying at the end of each chapter. (Example--"No todo lo que brillo es oro"--All that glitters is not gold.) One showed a girl sad that she got a 97 on a test (with a thought baloon showing 100) and a guy happy that he got a 55, with a thought bubble showing "0." The caption (I don't remember it in Spanish) was "There is no stroke of luck that couldn't be better and no misfortune that couldn't be worse."
At my college (CSU, Chico) the library uses the Library of Congress system. Anyone know if that is free? If it originated with the taxpayer-supported US Gov, I would think it should be free.
For the yanks in the crowd
What bugs *me* about MP3 players is the way when they first started coming out, they said a 32 MB model could hold "up to an hour of CD-quality music" which is BS because a 128k mp3 takes 1 MB per minute, so 32 MB ~= 1/2 hour. You'd have to encode your music at 64 kbps to fit 1 hour onto a 32 MB device. It's questionable to call a 128k mp3 "cd-quality" but a 64k mp3? No f'ing way.
Luckily LA is an 8 hour drive from Mountain View. BTW, I'm from the bay area originally & visited last week. My mom works across the street from Google. Of course I had to go there and get my picture taken in front of it. I was happy to see their signs--they have buildings 0, pi, and e.
here in Florida (and fourteen other states) it is illegal for adults to leave a gun where a minor can access it without supervision. Of course, it'd be nice if gun-owning parents rasied their kids with a healthy respect for guns in the first place, but lacking that, I'd rather see the parents in the clink than the GTA devs.
Thanks for the linek, I'll have to look at that. Nice little secret, like how if you wan the newest OS/2, you have to know to look for eComStation. (from ecomstation.com: eComStation 1.1 provides users with a low cost package which includes the most up to date distribution of IBM OS/2 4.52.)
They couldn't have, even if they would have wanted to. Remember back in '98/99 when everyone was sprinkling the Open Source fairy dust on every project with a somewhat bleak outlook? Be had a page on their site explaining why they couldn't do that--that there was a lot of 3rd-party closed code. Kind of like how OpenOffice doesn't have Star Office's Adabas database except it wasn't possible to just break of a chunk of BeOS and say "OK, that's closed, the rest is open." Maybe wayback has the page or someone else has it archived somewhere.
But to most people, $23M is a lot of money. Are you saying that anyone should be able to do anything without question as long as they're able to settle for less than 0.1% of their net worth? I know the point of settling without admitting is the same as "it's cheaper for us to settle than to fight" but c'mon, $23fuckingMillion? Like James Garner said in "Barbarians at the Gates (no pun intended)", "That's like trying to sweep a ton of elephant shit under the rug."
You're right, it's an imperfect system; scarily similar to cops who say "If you weren't guilty, why did you run (from four big men in dark suits with guns)?" But there are limits.
Q: How do you double the value of a Yugo?
A: Fill the tank.
DirecTiVo: $249
Usage: $4.95/mo
Upgrade to 120 GB HD: $120
Add another 120 a few months later: $90
Total recording time: about 220 hours (reported by info screen)
Seeing someone post a list of prices without a "priceless" joke at the end: priceless. (doh!)
"...almost 15 per cent of films will be viewed by "on-demand" services such as rather than by DVD or video by 2005."
So all codec, player, bandwidth, and DRM issues will be ironed out in the next 15 months? Sweet. </sarcasm>
I don't know where I first heard it, but the best way to do on-demand (at least for a handful of current films) would be to send them to your TiVo in the middle of the night withou you even requesting it, then you just pay for a key to unlock it. But still, I'm big into ownership--pretty much anything worth seeing is worth paying $10-$20 to have forever.
I respect your opinion and your experiences but there is nothing--nothing--that cannot be joked about. Everyone has something near and dear to them that they don't like to hear jokes about, but it's different for every person, and no one has the right to say "This one subject can *never* be joked about." I'm sure you've told jokes that would offend me--things that might make me say "Dammit, *that* crossed the line." But I wouldn't say that because I know that everyone has a different line. Think about it--where does prison sex fall on a scale that includes starvation, genocide, the Holocaust, Shuttle disasters, 9/11, the Gulf wars, Christ's crucifixion, the Kennedy assassination, and everything else bad in the world? Is it OK to joke about these things but not the fact that a bunch of convicted criminals sodomize a bunch of other criminals? Or would you rather live in a world where jokes aren't allowed because someone, somewhere might get their feelings hurt?
No, I'm not saying the guy deserves to get raped for what he did; on the other hand*, he's an adult and he intentionally did something that was malicious and illegal. And (as it happes, thanks to prison sex jokes) he should have known *exactly* what he was in for if he got caught. He figured he wouldn't get caught and decided to piss off the world. I say, fuck him. (Figuratively, that is. Once again, I'm not in favor of *anyone* getting raped--male, female; straight, gay; vaginally, anally, or otherwise.) Let the son of a bitch rot.
* all of the following assumes he actually is guilty and a guilty verdict gets returned
>>>The Mac is easier to use.
:-)
:-)
:-)
>>Arguable. Mostly depends on what you're used to. I've...
>But - easier to use for advanced users?...
For me, actually, yes--the PC is still miles ahead of Mac when it comes to keyboard shortcuts, especially at the OS level. I like the fact that I have control-F to find things in any app but can always, instantly, get an OS-find with Windows-F, compared to the Mac where you have to click the desktop, then command-F. And so on, and so on. Nothing more than personal preference. To each his own. If you like OS X more, you won't hear an argument from me.
>Could go either way. The other question is what do your
>friends, who will (hopefully) guide you through your
>dark days, use?
>Counterpoint - 10 people come up to me and say "my
> computer keeps rebooting...". I just shrung and say
>"Sorry mac, I have an Apple". Sometimes it's good to be
> alone.
On our side, true. But new users will go with the majority to avoid people like you.
You next points were all good and I have little argument with any. My main point is that most people (and many companies) look at two things: "what is cheapest today?" and "what are most people using?" They don't see past the end of their nose and don't know what they're missing (fewer viruses, better built-in mail client*, etc.) by not going the Mac route.
* good point about Mail.app. I didn't think of that since I have never, ever a) used LookOut or b) used a Mac for email. Eudora 1.5.4, ca. 1996, not a virus yet.
>Peace of mind and lack of spyware - priceless.
LOL.
>Only the PC is the gift that keeps on taking, as it were.
Good line.
Good to know. I'll check it out. Nuttin' wrong wit' pretty. :-)
>It is ***a*** [emphasis added] complicated photoshop benchmark.
:-)
Well, if you're going to do that exact task (rotate 90 degrees, then 9, then 0.9?!?!?*), the G5 is obviously the way to go. Now read this little nugget from barefeats.com, a great pro-Mac site that pits Macs against PCs but is honest enough to admit when Macs fall short:
"I tested a 1.3GHz Centrino laptop (12" screen) recently. At first I was going to compare it to the 12" PowerBook. But it ran CineBench 2003 100% faster than the PowerBook G4/1GHz (17" screen). It ran Photoshop 20% faster. It ran Quake3 103% faster in 640x480 "Fastest" mode. The 17" PowerBook did, however, run Quake3 84% faster in 1024x768 "Max" mode. Probably has more video memory."
The point is, any CPU can beat any other CPU at certain tasks. Depends on what you're measuring. I once tested (years ago) an AMD K6/2-450 against a dual-PPro. Thanks to more MHz and a faster system bus, the AMD edged out the PPros in most tasks by a consistant 10-20%. But the PPro *spanked* the AMD (I mean, by 3:1 or 4:1) on some tests. Whatever the strength was--FPU, integer, whatever--there were some things it was *great* at. If I would have published just those results, would you have bought one?
* I bet my old dual-PPro would win if I rotated the image 99.9 degrees in one step. 90 & 9 took 3.5 seconds for the Mac.
I use the old dead freeware gadget "Cycles" to watch both G4s in separate graphs, it's interesting seeing each processor's load.
/Applications/Utilities/CPU Monitor. :-) I recommend "extended view". Green = user, red = system, blue = niced. Close the main window, open the prefs, and tell it to use Extended view in the app's dock icon. Then go to system prefs and drop it into the login items folder, and tell it "hide" so it isn't the active app when you log in.
There's also
Course, that's all OS X. Not sure if you're using it or not.
>The Mac is easier to use.
:-)
Arguable. Mostly depends on what you're used to. I've been around plenty of noobs with their shiny new boxes. I've seen people take to Windows with no problem, and I've seen people trip up over Mac OS X. Could go either way. The other question is what do your friends, who will (hopefully) guide you through your dark days, use?
>Now it's also as fast (or significantly FASTER) the the PC.
For the sake of argument, let's just say that both are equally well suited for common consumer tasks: web browsing, digital cameras, email, burning CDs, average 3D games. Stay away from fancy stuff for a second--no firewire 800, no DVD burning, etc. Still with me? OK, good.
>It runs all the commercial apps you need.
Unless you want games, or cheap clip art, or scores of other things. Most people do *not* buy MS Office for their home computers--the use MS Works or AppleWorks or whatever comes with them. Most also steer towards cheap photo editors (more than jusr rotate & enhance that iPhoto offers) like PSP or the cheap Adobe products, rather than Quark-Photoshop-Illustrator stuff.
>It can emulate proprietary in-house apps with VirtualPC.
For only $300 more (Win XP version). Yes, you can put your pirated copy of Win98 on if you buy the $120 DOS-only version, but how many noobs know to do that?
>It can play all the latest games, even if they laga couple months (get a PS2, also!).
So after you've bought your expensive (see below) Mac, you recommend a $150 console too?
>It's UNIX under the hood and runs X11 for added compatability.
True. But what do noobs want UNIX for? Without a nearby geek, they don't. Period.
>All of this, and it's not any more expensive than comparable PC hardware.
store.apple.com: base 1.6 GHz G5, $2000. (no monitor.) 1.4 GHz G4s, get'em while you can, $1300. Base 800 MHz eMac, $800.
dell.com/tv: 2.4 GHz P4, 17" monitor, sometimes a free upgrade to a 15" LCD: $500.
PCs will continue to dominate (what is it, 20:1?) due to economics alone. Will they cost more in the long run due to viruses and whatnot? Who knows. Will the user have a more pleasurable experience with one or the other? Who knows. Is it better to spend $500 today than $800 today? Yes--*everyone* knows that one.
Not saying Macs aren't great (I'm sure the last few major viruses changed some minds), just saying what reality is. Also, I'm not saying Apple is going under. Far from it--they've got high-margin hardware (plus iPods and iTMS and whatnot) that sells just fine, thakyouverymuch. The BMW/Ford analogy explains it all.
PS--FYI, I work (two jobs, no less) as a (primarily) Mac tech and own both Macs and PCs.
PPS--the Red v. Blue page was a joke, a parody, that made use of exaggeration. Just so you know.
I ran OS X (starting with 10.0.3, then 10.1.x) on a Beige G3 266 at work for a couple years. I also ran 10.1 on my home beige G3/300 for quite a while. It was as slow as death. I also thought it was painfully slow on my non-QuartzExtreme Dual-533 MHz G4. IMNSHO, OS X is horrible on any non-QE Mac. It runs better on an 800 MHz G3 iBook with QE than on a dual-533 without.
Whenever I would post these sentiments on macslash, idiots would come out of the woodwork telling me to quit spreading FUD and that OS X ran "peppy enough" on their unsupported 9600. So, if you're OK dealing with an OS that takes a painful amount of time to run (like 5 seconds to launch Terminal; a Finder that feels like its underwater) then go ahead. If not, don't even run OS X on anything beige or blue & white except as a file or web server. (Which it's great at--OS X will serve files 4x faster (yes, I've timed it) than Personal File Sharing under OS 9.)
Save up and get an iBook or eMac which are currently give the best bang for the buck.
eMac: pro: G4, superdrive available. con: big, heavy, built-in monitor.
iBook: pro: portable, slick, 1024x768, CD-RW/DVD option. con: G3. But, as I said, QE makes it quite usable.
Both are in the $700-$1200 range depending on if you get them refurbished or not and what kind of options you order.
It was impossible to run Mac OS on BeBoxes which used the same Motorola 60X's as Macs at the time. AFAIK, Mac OS absolutely *will not run* unless Apple blesses the BIOS or something similar. In other words, it won't ever run on a montherboard that doesn't come from them. PPC != Apple.