Greatly depends on your choice in cars and motorcycles... My roomate's Prius gets him somewhere north of 50 MPG in his highway commute. My R100R gets me somewhere around 35 and I think my choice in riding apparel removes me from the "cool as shit" category as well.
Then again, if I was looking to save money, I would have gotten a moped:P
Ack! Don't cover your brake levers. If anything causes you to tense up or grip the bars you don't want some sudden involuntary over-braking. Grip the grips, grab the brakes when you need them. Do this every day and the muscle memory will be firmly entrenched.
You're right, people like that do exist. In my experience though, they aren't the norm. Most often they've heard something from a friend or a talking head on TV and are repeating it. I have plenty of friends just like that, and you know what? Politely correcting the factual errors they've said earns you much more respect and clout with them than insulting them personally. They respect you more and are more open to your opinions and views.
I'm not going to make any assumptions about QuantumPion. I only read his one post. Maybe he is an arrogant asshat, maybe not. Either way I'm not trying to fix this discussion, I'm simply trying to get people to understand that the ridiculously divisive political environment we have in the States these days is not going to change as long as we the people aren't willing to get over the hostility.
No. He may have had his definitions wrong, he may have spoken from ignorance, but you chose to attack him personally. You didn't merely respond in kind to his level of civility, you brought it to an entirely new low. Defending your point of view while insulting your opponent isn't something you find "only in America" but you must admit, we've risen it to an art form...
The tragedy in all this is I believe your point of view here is correct - I just wish you could have expressed it in a less hostile manner - you would be far more likely to change somebody's mind than further divide us.
If anybody was lamenting the lack of civil discourse and statesmanship in modern American politics, this is an excellent case study in why. We complain about the bullshit rhetoric, insults, and mudslinging by the politicians and talking heads, but when given the opportunity to educate somebody who has a different view, we resort to the exact same methods. There was an opportunity here to educate somebody on your point of view, but what will he get out of it when all of your information is interspersed with insults? How do you expect to find common ground? There is a ton of stuff the two of you would otherwise agree on if you weren't so adversarial about it.
The problem with a frequency jammer is that disproportionately more difficult to overcome than it is to implement. These are guys building their mechs as a hobby in their garage, not well funded defense contractors. A jammer is trivially cheap to implement and has a low enough battery draw that it may as well not be there. On the flip side, overcoming those effects really is not possible with commodity hardware - an off the shelf WIFI or Bluetooth transceiver will simply stop working - it takes significant effort and investment that would put the price of developing one of these mechs through the roof.
On top of that, what parent poster already pointed out, the intent is to simulate mech combat. A pilot would be in the cockpit which would not be subject to wireless jamming.
Fool! We don't use steam locomotives anymore. How are they going to put Doc Brown's special bundles of speed into the firebox!? Diesel locomotives *can't* spit out a wicked plume of red smoke!
...Spoken like somebody who clearly has no idea what's going on.
All American space vehicles were built by private companies with specifications provided by NASA. The commercial vehicles are still being reviewed by NASA for flight worthiness (hence the technical review in TFA). How can you say they have a financial interest to cut corners and ignore the obvious financial interest to succeed? Face it, NASA has had some pretty astronomical failures in its time, and what backups were available in those situations? Fundamentally we aren't looking at a tremendously different environment than the 60s space race (if anything we are far more risk averse). The new guys get to learn from NASAs mistakes and build on their successes. I have high hopes.
Come on now, surely you know exactly what's going on from your days in school...
Student doesn't like the teacher for one reason or another, starts looking for the slightest provocations to harm the teacher. Student finds a reason, rants and raves and cries to mom about it, mom rushes to defend her precious snowflake. School administration fearing lawsuits and the PR backlash sides with the parent and fires teacher. Student pockets this victory and starts looking for the next. Keep an eye on this student, they are going to be big in politics or business some day...
I think that's the problem these people have with it. They are equating any sort of nudity to pornography. Anybody with sense would have laughed the outraged parents out of the room, unfortunately many regions in the U.S. are just repressed enough for it to be an issue...
There's a major problem with that analysis. They are assuming the exact same manufacturing process would be used. These devices are largely hand-built in China specifically because the labor is so cheap. Do your assembly in the US (or Europe, or wherever) and your labor intensive processes become automated by pick and place machinery. Your per-device costs end up not too far from each other.
Unfortunately that "not too far from each other" ends up as a few percentage points (or fractions thereof) on the total profit for their target $499 price.
On top of that you have a different means of handling new or changed designs. A design change for a hand-built device means giving new directions to the assembler. A design change for a machine built device could mean delays as the machinery is reworked to accommodate the change (or could simply mean uploading a new program to the machine....).
Fundamentally the issue becomes the "race to the bottom" business method where you're pushing so much product out that a 2% change in per-unit profit will make or break your business model - and I would be surprised to find if the difference in cost per unit is far from a few percentage points.
"Blades are so mainstream. People in the know use a CPU with buttloads of cores. I'd tell you what brand, but it wouldn't matter, you've never heard of it."
You cite a specific at Wintek, then say Foxconn has issues. I know there are issues at Foxconn, just as there are issues at all of these places. This is about Apple's ethics to you, to the rest of us in the conversation it's about the challenges of China's industrialization and how Americans are learning about our involvement in those challenges.
I've just realized I responded to four of your posts in this thread (only realized two of them before the fact because they were worded identically). Really, we're on the same side of this issue: there is definite exploitation of Chinese workers happening in order to bring us our cheap Chinese made gadgets. But why do you only talk about Apple? Apple is one company among thousands that outsources manufacturing to China. Why do you solely hold Apple's feet to the fire? It is an industry-wide problem, and that is the key thing people need to understand in order to fix it.
OP's point was the latter part of my statement. People who are aware of and care about the issue may pick up a bit more out of it, but they aren't who need to be convinced. The people who need to be convinced now have an easy out in that one of the bigger stories about the issue was largely made up by the author.
Your reputation is forever tarnished, msobkow. You posted falsehoods and did not have the minerals to stand by what you said!! THE GALL!
Fun and games aside, why would they sue? TAL did vet the story and most of the main points checked out. The details though were a heap of exaggerations and stories other people's anecdotes. IANAL but I assume pursuing a libel case would be a challenge when everything said really was based on actual events (just not the author's events...). Additionally, there has been far more attention paid to the retraction than to the original story, so Apple really would have a hell of a time demonstrating any harm.
Oh I see what you're getting at now, this being the second time you've mentioned it. You actually have a bone to pick with Apple. Apple gets a special spot under the guillotine and anything that can give them negative press *must* be brought up even if it dilutes the issue people are talking about. Never mind that these companies do work for just about every electronics manufacturer around. We won't talk about Intel, Microsoft, Dell, HP, System76, or anybody else' manufacturing process because Apple must be the one to answer.
It attracts spotlights to the people that want to see them. If somebody is on the fence or doesn't think there's a problem, evidence presented is that much more easily because after all, "Daisey just made it all up."
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Which would be a concern with a communicable disease caused by some other organism, but cancer is a mutation of our own cells.
Point being - GP has never actually gone in for jury selection!
Greatly depends on your choice in cars and motorcycles... My roomate's Prius gets him somewhere north of 50 MPG in his highway commute. My R100R gets me somewhere around 35 and I think my choice in riding apparel removes me from the "cool as shit" category as well.
:P
Then again, if I was looking to save money, I would have gotten a moped
Ack! Don't cover your brake levers. If anything causes you to tense up or grip the bars you don't want some sudden involuntary over-braking. Grip the grips, grab the brakes when you need them. Do this every day and the muscle memory will be firmly entrenched.
I never really considered 10 and 2 as the optimal place for controlling the wheel... Don't most consider 9 and 3 to be that place?
I think it's a southern California way of saying things. They're dumb down there.
You're right, people like that do exist. In my experience though, they aren't the norm. Most often they've heard something from a friend or a talking head on TV and are repeating it. I have plenty of friends just like that, and you know what? Politely correcting the factual errors they've said earns you much more respect and clout with them than insulting them personally. They respect you more and are more open to your opinions and views.
I'm not going to make any assumptions about QuantumPion. I only read his one post. Maybe he is an arrogant asshat, maybe not. Either way I'm not trying to fix this discussion, I'm simply trying to get people to understand that the ridiculously divisive political environment we have in the States these days is not going to change as long as we the people aren't willing to get over the hostility.
No. He may have had his definitions wrong, he may have spoken from ignorance, but you chose to attack him personally. You didn't merely respond in kind to his level of civility, you brought it to an entirely new low. Defending your point of view while insulting your opponent isn't something you find "only in America" but you must admit, we've risen it to an art form...
The tragedy in all this is I believe your point of view here is correct - I just wish you could have expressed it in a less hostile manner - you would be far more likely to change somebody's mind than further divide us.
If anybody was lamenting the lack of civil discourse and statesmanship in modern American politics, this is an excellent case study in why. We complain about the bullshit rhetoric, insults, and mudslinging by the politicians and talking heads, but when given the opportunity to educate somebody who has a different view, we resort to the exact same methods. There was an opportunity here to educate somebody on your point of view, but what will he get out of it when all of your information is interspersed with insults? How do you expect to find common ground? There is a ton of stuff the two of you would otherwise agree on if you weren't so adversarial about it.
The problem with a frequency jammer is that disproportionately more difficult to overcome than it is to implement. These are guys building their mechs as a hobby in their garage, not well funded defense contractors. A jammer is trivially cheap to implement and has a low enough battery draw that it may as well not be there. On the flip side, overcoming those effects really is not possible with commodity hardware - an off the shelf WIFI or Bluetooth transceiver will simply stop working - it takes significant effort and investment that would put the price of developing one of these mechs through the roof.
On top of that, what parent poster already pointed out, the intent is to simulate mech combat. A pilot would be in the cockpit which would not be subject to wireless jamming.
Which is exactly the problem. Anything worth voting into law must be able to stand on its own merit.
Fool! We don't use steam locomotives anymore. How are they going to put Doc Brown's special bundles of speed into the firebox!? Diesel locomotives *can't* spit out a wicked plume of red smoke!
Let's be fair here... Soyuz has a pretty damn good safety record (at least compared to the Shuttle)
...Spoken like somebody who clearly has no idea what's going on.
All American space vehicles were built by private companies with specifications provided by NASA. The commercial vehicles are still being reviewed by NASA for flight worthiness (hence the technical review in TFA). How can you say they have a financial interest to cut corners and ignore the obvious financial interest to succeed? Face it, NASA has had some pretty astronomical failures in its time, and what backups were available in those situations? Fundamentally we aren't looking at a tremendously different environment than the 60s space race (if anything we are far more risk averse). The new guys get to learn from NASAs mistakes and build on their successes. I have high hopes.
Come on now, surely you know exactly what's going on from your days in school...
Student doesn't like the teacher for one reason or another, starts looking for the slightest provocations to harm the teacher. Student finds a reason, rants and raves and cries to mom about it, mom rushes to defend her precious snowflake. School administration fearing lawsuits and the PR backlash sides with the parent and fires teacher. Student pockets this victory and starts looking for the next. Keep an eye on this student, they are going to be big in politics or business some day...
I think that's the problem these people have with it. They are equating any sort of nudity to pornography. Anybody with sense would have laughed the outraged parents out of the room, unfortunately many regions in the U.S. are just repressed enough for it to be an issue...
That's good, finding a Delorean these days that can hit 88 mph is no small task, even God would have trouble with that one.
There's a major problem with that analysis. They are assuming the exact same manufacturing process would be used. These devices are largely hand-built in China specifically because the labor is so cheap. Do your assembly in the US (or Europe, or wherever) and your labor intensive processes become automated by pick and place machinery. Your per-device costs end up not too far from each other.
Unfortunately that "not too far from each other" ends up as a few percentage points (or fractions thereof) on the total profit for their target $499 price.
On top of that you have a different means of handling new or changed designs. A design change for a hand-built device means giving new directions to the assembler. A design change for a machine built device could mean delays as the machinery is reworked to accommodate the change (or could simply mean uploading a new program to the machine....).
Fundamentally the issue becomes the "race to the bottom" business method where you're pushing so much product out that a 2% change in per-unit profit will make or break your business model - and I would be surprised to find if the difference in cost per unit is far from a few percentage points.
I'm done with this conversation. You're letting your vitriol against one company detract from a meaningful discussion about a very real problem.
"Blades are so mainstream. People in the know use a CPU with buttloads of cores. I'd tell you what brand, but it wouldn't matter, you've never heard of it."
You sir are my hero.
You cite a specific at Wintek, then say Foxconn has issues. I know there are issues at Foxconn, just as there are issues at all of these places. This is about Apple's ethics to you, to the rest of us in the conversation it's about the challenges of China's industrialization and how Americans are learning about our involvement in those challenges.
I've just realized I responded to four of your posts in this thread (only realized two of them before the fact because they were worded identically). Really, we're on the same side of this issue: there is definite exploitation of Chinese workers happening in order to bring us our cheap Chinese made gadgets. But why do you only talk about Apple? Apple is one company among thousands that outsources manufacturing to China. Why do you solely hold Apple's feet to the fire? It is an industry-wide problem, and that is the key thing people need to understand in order to fix it.
OP's point was the latter part of my statement. People who are aware of and care about the issue may pick up a bit more out of it, but they aren't who need to be convinced. The people who need to be convinced now have an easy out in that one of the bigger stories about the issue was largely made up by the author.
Your reputation is forever tarnished, msobkow. You posted falsehoods and did not have the minerals to stand by what you said!! THE GALL!
Fun and games aside, why would they sue? TAL did vet the story and most of the main points checked out. The details though were a heap of exaggerations and stories other people's anecdotes. IANAL but I assume pursuing a libel case would be a challenge when everything said really was based on actual events (just not the author's events...). Additionally, there has been far more attention paid to the retraction than to the original story, so Apple really would have a hell of a time demonstrating any harm.
Oh I see what you're getting at now, this being the second time you've mentioned it. You actually have a bone to pick with Apple. Apple gets a special spot under the guillotine and anything that can give them negative press *must* be brought up even if it dilutes the issue people are talking about. Never mind that these companies do work for just about every electronics manufacturer around. We won't talk about Intel, Microsoft, Dell, HP, System76, or anybody else' manufacturing process because Apple must be the one to answer.
So, why do you have an axe to grind with Apple?
It attracts spotlights to the people that want to see them. If somebody is on the fence or doesn't think there's a problem, evidence presented is that much more easily because after all, "Daisey just made it all up."