It's a very simply model: JavaSE is free, JavaME is not. Google did an end-run around that arrangement by using parts of JavaSE, instead of JavaME, so the process of opening JavaSE was slowed/halted.
And why do you think they've locked down their test suite, when Google has come out and taken their IP and not paid for it?
Listen, you can't one day release something completely free of licensing costs, then the next day try to change your mind to gain financial reward on the very same something. That's the problem some people have here with this whole ordeal. It's not about Google vs. Microsoft vs. Apple vs. Oracle. It's about what product had an actual licensing cost and the fact that in this particular situation, that product was not used. End of story.
You mean Google trying to ride the coattails of the Java brand right? I mean they could have used Go as their programming language right? The one 16 developers use or Java which millions of developers use.
Saying that is as accurate as claiming Slashdot is trying to ride the coattails of Perl's success. It's irrelevant and makes no sense. It's a tool, much in the same way that a contractor doesn't ride the coattails of a DeWalt drill's success.
You fail to understand that the different "versions" are just different translations of the same thing, or put into more plainspeak. Sometimes it's done to make it easier to understand for readers. Other times it's to make more clear what a translation is in context.
They wouldn't exactly get by with just changing things around and get by with calling it the same book with the masses agreeing.
But then you have the fact that a bunch of old geezers in robes decided what books to include in the mainstream Bible. You can find full compilations, but for some reason these other books weren't deemed important enough to be included.
Then you also have the possibility of certain parties conveniently losing other texts that were written around the same times.
I'm not an expert on Android internals or anything, but I think this story is being significantly overblown.
Seriously understated... The problem with Oracle and Google is simply licensing. If Google had licensed Java like every other company doing a port like Android perhaps Sun would still be a viable company today. Perhaps it is unfortunate that Sun did not want to litigate, but you can't expect Oracle to drop the same ball.
...except that it's not a "port", and any company that licensed Java VM has used a Java VM that was licensable. Google isn't using one of those VMs. Nobody dropped the ball here. It's just another frivolous lawsuit trying to ride the coattails of somebody else's success.
I just don't see it as plausible. They're each other's main (commercial, for sure, and possibly period) competitor in too many of their core businesses.
It would be like the Democrats and Republicans deciding to run a single dual-party candidate in a Presidential election just to make sure the Green Party didn't win.
If the Green Party was a threat, they most certainly would.
Yes, I do live in fear of law enforcement. My post wasn't saying we don't have reasons to, I was just pointing out how backwards it is that we do and have good reason to. They shouldn't give us reasons to at all, period, unless we're actual bad guys.
"trying to piss them off might not be such a great idea."
You Sir/Madam is living in a police state. That sort of logic does not belong in a free society.
Amen to that. There's zero reason we should be in fear of our law enforcement. Will they harass me? Will they beat me claiming I resisted arrest? Will they make up some other bullshit charges? Give me a break. This is pathetic.
In fact with Firefox being chased down by Chrome, OpenOffice trying to regroup as LibreOffice I think 2011 could be a really bad year for open source overall.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't the guts of Chrome (Chromium) open source?
It's OK to have good debt. This is not good debt. This stimulus only propped up failures while creating economic volatility. If a huge problem on your table is your debt, you don't create more debt. That's insane, especially when the problem will solve itself anyway. I haven't seen one shred of evidence to support the idea that the stimulus actually helped anything beyond a year, if even at all.
Then with the 2.2 Froyo update, I didn't have the option to use the Android launcher/homescreen (instead of Sense). It's not that Sense was bad, I just wanted to try something else on my "OPEN PLATFORM" Android phone and was prevented from doing so.
There are plenty of other launchers out there that IMO are better than Sense or the stock Android launcher. There'd have to be some serious lock-down to prevent you from switching to an alternative (don't even think they're allowed to lock it down that far?). As far as I know, it's only the stock Android launcher that was removed.
That people have the opportunity to confuse who has what (Sense? Blur?) is one of Android's more significant failings.
I look at it as being one of it's more significant strengths (choices! gasp!).
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I have an Asus Eee nettop box (atom+ion) running XBMC that's running fantastic for me. Costed me about $250. Plus, it can actually output 1080p, not to mention being able to play literally everything I've tried to throw at it, including all my MythTV recorded content. I looked at AppleTV, but it couldn't do hardly anything I needed it to do, but I guess that's what I'd expect out of something that costs $99. For that price, I'd opt for an even cheaper streaming media player (like O!Play) that can play a lot more content but with less of a pretty interface.
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks about local matters (house burning down)? That's also a horrible example and is nothing but media hype. These people had the choice to opt-in to the fire service, since they were rural, for only a few bucks a year since people didn't like to be charged insane amounts of money after the fire was fought. It was like insurance. Fire protection isn't a right. They had the choice, and they faced rather harsh consequences for a very small price.
What does that even have to do with states vs. federal? Firehouses are local city and county establishments. Some are tax-paid, others are voluntary. It's not even close to being relevant here.
And what the hell does a "rotten town in southern California" have to do with anything? What, you don't have drug dealers? This is insanity. All your post indicates is that you've seen a few sensationalist media stories and judging the entire system based upon that.
Since you do not appear to know anything about our current government structure, the federal government is the giant bureaucracy hog. The states are fairly lean in that area. So, yes, the federal government is the problem.
Why do the state rightists need to read something out of a religious text? That has zero relevancy. It doesn't even say anything about state vs. federal. It literally makes no sense.
Since you're not even a citizen, I don't see how you have anywhere NEAR the insight required to make such declarations. Finally, no government is fully centralized. There are always local police forces of some kind, or hell, even different laws per city.
Get rid of state powers? So, undermine the foundation of the country? When the federal government is the problem, that sounds like a totally sane solution.
You already do pay more for faster connections. Slower connections have an inherited cap. If they can't handle the bandwidth load then they shouldn't sell it at those speeds, either that or they should upgrade their infrastructure.
You know, I never understood why the guy is the one that always ends up on the couch. I don't care how mad she is at you, it's still your bed. Grow a spine and sleep in your bed.
IMO, visiting aliens (and the human race itself, once it's decided to go for interstellar missions) will more probably be completely electronic, having Kurzweil-esque electronic simulation of neurons and synapses that is our brains, and so being able to survive the very long travel periods.
Not to mention foreign and probably harsh atmospheric conditions...
You're comparing discovering people to discovering intelligent life in another species originating from another planet... nay... another solar system entirely! Hardly the same kind of situation.
But for all practical purposes, it might as well be.
IPv4 = roughly 4.3 billion addresses possible, and that includes private IPs and the like.
IPv6 = Well... 3.4x10^38 possible. That's a crazy huge number.
Weren't all addresses supposed to be gone by now? That's problem with doomsday predictions IPv4, warming, God, it never happens as scheduled and then people just ignore you next time you start predicting. If we were more temperate about our predictions, people wouldn't dismiss them as more of the same "sky-is-falling" crapola.
On the other hand, the times people were more temperate about the predictions and something horrible happened, there's mass blame on the organization/person that was supposed to warn us saying we weren't prepared because some jackass didn't do their job.
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It's a very simply model: JavaSE is free, JavaME is not. Google did an end-run around that arrangement by using parts of JavaSE, instead of JavaME, so the process of opening JavaSE was slowed/halted.
Halted? How so?
And why do you think they've locked down their test suite, when Google has come out and taken their IP and not paid for it?
Listen, you can't one day release something completely free of licensing costs, then the next day try to change your mind to gain financial reward on the very same something. That's the problem some people have here with this whole ordeal. It's not about Google vs. Microsoft vs. Apple vs. Oracle. It's about what product had an actual licensing cost and the fact that in this particular situation, that product was not used. End of story.
You mean Google trying to ride the coattails of the Java brand right? I mean they could have used Go as their programming language right? The one 16 developers use or Java which millions of developers use.
Saying that is as accurate as claiming Slashdot is trying to ride the coattails of Perl's success. It's irrelevant and makes no sense. It's a tool, much in the same way that a contractor doesn't ride the coattails of a DeWalt drill's success.
You fail to understand that the different "versions" are just different translations of the same thing, or put into more plainspeak. Sometimes it's done to make it easier to understand for readers. Other times it's to make more clear what a translation is in context.
They wouldn't exactly get by with just changing things around and get by with calling it the same book with the masses agreeing.
But then you have the fact that a bunch of old geezers in robes decided what books to include in the mainstream Bible. You can find full compilations, but for some reason these other books weren't deemed important enough to be included.
Then you also have the possibility of certain parties conveniently losing other texts that were written around the same times.
I'm not an expert on Android internals or anything, but I think this story is being significantly overblown.
Seriously understated... The problem with Oracle and Google is simply licensing. If Google had licensed Java like every other company doing a port like Android perhaps Sun would still be a viable company today. Perhaps it is unfortunate that Sun did not want to litigate, but you can't expect Oracle to drop the same ball.
...except that it's not a "port", and any company that licensed Java VM has used a Java VM that was licensable. Google isn't using one of those VMs. Nobody dropped the ball here. It's just another frivolous lawsuit trying to ride the coattails of somebody else's success.
I just don't see it as plausible. They're each other's main (commercial, for sure, and possibly period) competitor in too many of their core businesses.
It would be like the Democrats and Republicans deciding to run a single dual-party candidate in a Presidential election just to make sure the Green Party didn't win.
If the Green Party was a threat, they most certainly would.
Yes, I do live in fear of law enforcement. My post wasn't saying we don't have reasons to, I was just pointing out how backwards it is that we do and have good reason to. They shouldn't give us reasons to at all, period, unless we're actual bad guys.
"trying to piss them off might not be such a great idea."
You Sir/Madam is living in a police state. That sort of logic does not belong in a free society.
Amen to that. There's zero reason we should be in fear of our law enforcement. Will they harass me? Will they beat me claiming I resisted arrest? Will they make up some other bullshit charges? Give me a break. This is pathetic.
In fact with Firefox being chased down by Chrome, OpenOffice trying to regroup as LibreOffice I think 2011 could be a really bad year for open source overall.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't the guts of Chrome (Chromium) open source?
It's OK to have good debt. This is not good debt. This stimulus only propped up failures while creating economic volatility. If a huge problem on your table is your debt, you don't create more debt. That's insane, especially when the problem will solve itself anyway. I haven't seen one shred of evidence to support the idea that the stimulus actually helped anything beyond a year, if even at all.
And I guess that's why I'm not an English teacher :p Thanks for the correction.
Then with the 2.2 Froyo update, I didn't have the option to use the Android launcher/homescreen (instead of Sense). It's not that Sense was bad, I just wanted to try something else on my "OPEN PLATFORM" Android phone and was prevented from doing so.
There are plenty of other launchers out there that IMO are better than Sense or the stock Android launcher. There'd have to be some serious lock-down to prevent you from switching to an alternative (don't even think they're allowed to lock it down that far?). As far as I know, it's only the stock Android launcher that was removed.
That people have the opportunity to confuse who has what (Sense? Blur?) is one of Android's more significant failings.
I look at it as being one of it's more significant strengths (choices! gasp!).
I have an Asus Eee nettop box (atom+ion) running XBMC that's running fantastic for me. Costed me about $250. Plus, it can actually output 1080p, not to mention being able to play literally everything I've tried to throw at it, including all my MythTV recorded content. I looked at AppleTV, but it couldn't do hardly anything I needed it to do, but I guess that's what I'd expect out of something that costs $99. For that price, I'd opt for an even cheaper streaming media player (like O!Play) that can play a lot more content but with less of a pretty interface.
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks about local matters (house burning down)? That's also a horrible example and is nothing but media hype. These people had the choice to opt-in to the fire service, since they were rural, for only a few bucks a year since people didn't like to be charged insane amounts of money after the fire was fought. It was like insurance. Fire protection isn't a right. They had the choice, and they faced rather harsh consequences for a very small price.
What does that even have to do with states vs. federal? Firehouses are local city and county establishments. Some are tax-paid, others are voluntary. It's not even close to being relevant here.
And what the hell does a "rotten town in southern California" have to do with anything? What, you don't have drug dealers? This is insanity. All your post indicates is that you've seen a few sensationalist media stories and judging the entire system based upon that.
Since you do not appear to know anything about our current government structure, the federal government is the giant bureaucracy hog. The states are fairly lean in that area. So, yes, the federal government is the problem.
Why do the state rightists need to read something out of a religious text? That has zero relevancy. It doesn't even say anything about state vs. federal. It literally makes no sense.
Since you're not even a citizen, I don't see how you have anywhere NEAR the insight required to make such declarations. Finally, no government is fully centralized. There are always local police forces of some kind, or hell, even different laws per city.
Stay in school, kid.
Get rid of state powers? So, undermine the foundation of the country? When the federal government is the problem, that sounds like a totally sane solution.
Try again.
Seconded!
Well, that's curious, because Sprint seems to have no problem with it (Qik, Fring).
You already do pay more for faster connections. Slower connections have an inherited cap. If they can't handle the bandwidth load then they shouldn't sell it at those speeds, either that or they should upgrade their infrastructure.
You know, I never understood why the guy is the one that always ends up on the couch. I don't care how mad she is at you, it's still your bed. Grow a spine and sleep in your bed.
Domain name is taken.
IMO, visiting aliens (and the human race itself, once it's decided to go for interstellar missions) will more probably be completely electronic, having Kurzweil-esque electronic simulation of neurons and synapses that is our brains, and so being able to survive the very long travel periods.
Not to mention foreign and probably harsh atmospheric conditions...
You're comparing discovering people to discovering intelligent life in another species originating from another planet... nay... another solar system entirely! Hardly the same kind of situation.
Neither is IPv6 infinite.
Phillip.
But for all practical purposes, it might as well be.
IPv4 = roughly 4.3 billion addresses possible, and that includes private IPs and the like.
IPv6 = Well... 3.4x10^38 possible. That's a crazy huge number.
Weren't all addresses supposed to be gone by now? That's problem with doomsday predictions IPv4, warming, God, it never happens as scheduled and then people just ignore you next time you start predicting. If we were more temperate about our predictions, people wouldn't dismiss them as more of the same "sky-is-falling" crapola.
On the other hand, the times people were more temperate about the predictions and something horrible happened, there's mass blame on the organization/person that was supposed to warn us saying we weren't prepared because some jackass didn't do their job.