Well, on this topic I see Carmack as the "Anti-Romero". While johnc is always polite in e-mail, he won't respond unless you ask a really well-thought-out question. Johnc's love is for programming and I really admire the fact that he will amputate any part of his life that takes time away from his true passion.
Romero's love is for gaming and that's why he responds to e-mails, runs his web site, and is a walking encyclopedia of dates, releases, and trivia. But to compare him to Carmack is probably to do justice to neither. Slagging Romero because he doesn't have the single-mindedness of Carmack is counter-productive, as is complaining that Carmack has poor social skills. Take those qualities away and you'd have... well... an ordinary schmuck like me.:)
Wrong. Ever own an old IBM PC w/ 1MB of RAM? Did the memory check count to 1024k at boot-up or to 1000k? Where did the 1-meg boundary lie? How many bytes are there on a 1.4MB diskette? 1,400,000 or 1,460,000??? People started referring to a megabyte as 1000 bytes in order to spoon-feed the technically illiterate. (aka MCSE)
Speaking of which, Brian Goble and Jason Hall of Monolith were equally as nice. I e-mailed them to ask how they first got involved with Microsoft and they told me it was by sending them a demo CD of their work. Then they asked for my address and mailed a copy of the CD directly to my home. WOW...
One thing the article alludes to that I can definitely corroborate is that John Romero has always been tremendously approachable and friendly to fellow gamers. He has never failed to respond to an e-mail I've sent him and will cc: just about anyone in the game industry to answer a question if he doesn't have one. He's sent me copies of his old Apple games on request and provided all kinds of info on old games, history, trivia. When he says "I'll check my old diskettes and send you an e-mail when I get home from work" he does, no exceptions. I'm not even in the media -- I just like games!
In some ways the Ion Storm / John Romero situation reminds me a bit of the Microsoft / Bill Gates situation. While many people hate Microsoft and make Bill Gates the butt of every joke, very few people who know him ever call his character into question. While the very mention of Ion Storm and John Romero make some people hopping mad, very few people who have met John hold him in such disregard. Maybe people need to make a better distinction between a "company" and a "person." They aren't the same thing.
A megabyte has *always* been 1024k, which is in turn 1024 bytes. Hence a megabyte is 1,048,576 bytes. Always has been, always will be. Giving it a new name simply validates the mistakes of the mail-in MCSEs who've never had to key anything in in hexadecimal.
That's like saying "we're gonna start measuring network bandwidth in megabytes per second cause people are too dense to realize it's actually megabits". It's still wrong.
Taking credit for other people's havok...
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Sounds to me like al-Qaeda is just looking to take credit for the chaos caused by others.
"You will feel our wrath in the endless bugs and security holes in Windows XP!"
What's next? "We will cause random car accidents in busy intersections and will lace cigarettes with deadly carcinogens!" OOooo, their prophecies are coming true, everybody! Head for the hills!
Al-Qaeda just wants "first-post" rights...
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Probably nothing more than an indication that al-Qaeda are Linux buffs and wanted to see their names on/.
I was watching the news a few years ago and some guy in India had lit himself on fire to protest the Miss Universe pageant. Sorry bastard, didn't know the difference between a worth cause and a silly one.
Surely the fate of the Brazilian dung beetle is more important than this cause. Let's leave the definition of "free" and Free documentation to a later generation who will hopefully have realized what a ridiculous topic this is...
Sorry dude but you are f*cking stupid... OS/2 never had a market share advantage on Windows. In addition, OS/2 was *always* technically superior to Windows, even after Windows 95 was released. If you don't realize that then you're not too smart at all...
Your assertions are ignorant and without merit, too bad you weren't around when these events happened, I'm sure you wouldn't have seemed so silly...
When OS/2 2.0 came out it was far superior to Windows 3.x from a technical perspective. It always has been and always will be. Unfortunately application compatibility has always been the key. Why run Linux, OS/2, MacOS when you can run Office faster under Windows? Until the MicroSloth Windows / Office hegemony is broken we'll have to keep on neglecting terrific operating systems just because Office doesn't run as well on them...
No, network play was available over IPX from the first version of Doom, head-to-head modem play was added in a subsequent patch. The "Some guy" you refer to wrote a generic tool to tunnel IPX over TCP/IP and hence Doom over the internet was finally born.
Since the release of the source there have been a number of hobbyist ports of Doom, but most purists only consider commercial ports when counting the number of platforms on which Doom was released.
Well, considering NeXT was Carmack's primary development platform at the time I would assume the vast majority of development took place on NeXT, not just map-making.
And I'm happy to say I have an unopened copy of every single Doom port, compilation, or "mission pack" ever made. Sadly the only one I don't have is the original, phone-order Doom although I have got a later CD replacement from id.
A great article but I noted a couple historical anomalies:
ID software was created and was composed by John Romero, John Carmack, Tom Hall and Adrian Carmack.
Adrian Carmack didn't actually join until near the end of the first Commander Keen game. Hence the difference in artwork between the first and second trilogy.
January 1993 : The first previews of Doom appeared in the press.
Actually, Jan 1993 was when the game was announced. Screenshots weren't released until Mar, 1993.
August 1993 : An unauthorized beta version of the game appeared, I don't know if it was voluntary
The first leaked alpha appeared Feb 4th, 1993 and was unintended. Another alpha was leaked Apr 2nd, 1993 a beta on May 22nd, 1993, and finally a press beta on Oct 4th, 1993. Only the screenshots of Mar, 1993 were authorized.
It sure is fun to think back on the old days!
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You are a fruitcake. You sound like an English teacher or a marketing troll, not a techie... Re-read your post and feel very ashamed...
Funny how you "wield" your freedom
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Funny thing is that the "free" software that Stallman so advocates is so inextricably intertwined with the IP laws he seems to hate. For example, the GPL could not exist without strict intellectual property laws. For example, with no IP you would have no power to insist all derivatives of your work must be bundled with source code. Without IP laws IBM, Microsoft, etc could use your source code with no credit or disclosure. The only thing that gives you the power to control how your source is used or disclosed is your ownership of that source. If your own source code was not legally considered property then the GPL could not exist.
Furthermore, I gotta say that while I can tolerate ignorant Americans, Americans who think they're smart because they know that Canada is "up thar yonder" just fail to impress me. Don't make sweeping statements about our political system if you've only read about it in "Democracy for Dummies..."
Observe the higher quality of life in Canada and the proliferation of subsidized Internet access over there. The two are related.
What have you been smoking? Are you assuming that just because something is available in Canada that means it's subsidized by the government? We're not on crack here, nor are we "paying 1/3 of [our] salary in taxes" to provide subsidized internet access. We also don't wear toques in the summer or eat back bacon
Canada (and Sweden, Finland et-al) are more wired than the USA because we have longer winters (no, not all 12 months) and this means people spend more for internet access during the months you'd prefer not to go outside. It's not because the government buys us a T1...
"They have a right to make money"...is just plain wrong. Of course they don't, nobody does. They can certainly try, but money isn't a right
Ha, ha. I think it's obvious I meant "they have a right to try". Otherwise I could just declare that I have a right to make money and then sue when it doesn't happen...
Sounds like a "USA Today" exclusive
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It's too bad to see such an interesting subject butchered by someone so lacking in technical knowledge. The entire article felt like a compilation of Comdex marketing brochures. Check this out:
From that first choice came the steamroller effect of Moore's Law, wherein nearly all research, development and production in the semiconductor industry has focused on clocked chips
Yeah, that made sense... Maybe she was thinking of "Murphy's Law"
I havent run LimeWire in a long time but I've gotta say that if this article bothers you please stop using LimeWire. They have every right to make money, if you don't like it simply stop using the service. However to even hint that their new marketing strategies are unethical is the height of ignorance. You have choice, exercise it.
Re:I want my MS-Office (no, really...)
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Yeah you're probably right but at least it would have been a possibility. For all their faults they do make a nice OS and a nice Office package. The thing I fault them for is their cross-leveraging. (Use Office to spur Windows upgrades. Then use Windows to spur Office upgrades.) They're also getting quite arrogant with their licensing as well, although people should try not to forget how they permanently lowered the average cost of an office suite in the late 80's during their price war with WordPerfect, Lotus, and Borland. Sadly they achieved this price decrease by dumping product on the market and waiting for their competition to go tits-up...
I want my MS-Office (no, really...)
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What I was really hoping to see was Microsoft split up as per Penfield-Jackson's recommendation at which point we would have seen MS-Office for Linux. I've got no issue with Microsoft competing with good products, I just hate to see them use their operating system monopoly to reduce choices (bundling IE) or exclude competitors (not supporting Linux).
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Well, on this topic I see Carmack as the "Anti-Romero". While johnc is always polite in e-mail, he won't respond unless you ask a really well-thought-out question. Johnc's love is for programming and I really admire the fact that he will amputate any part of his life that takes time away from his true passion.
Romero's love is for gaming and that's why he responds to e-mails, runs his web site, and is a walking encyclopedia of dates, releases, and trivia. But to compare him to Carmack is probably to do justice to neither. Slagging Romero because he doesn't have the single-mindedness of Carmack is counter-productive, as is complaining that Carmack has poor social skills. Take those qualities away and you'd have... well... an ordinary schmuck like me. :)
Wrong. Ever own an old IBM PC w/ 1MB of RAM? Did the memory check count to 1024k at boot-up or to 1000k? Where did the 1-meg boundary lie? How many bytes are there on a 1.4MB diskette? 1,400,000 or 1,460,000??? People started referring to a megabyte as 1000 bytes in order to spoon-feed the technically illiterate. (aka MCSE)
Speaking of which, Brian Goble and Jason Hall of Monolith were equally as nice. I e-mailed them to ask how they first got involved with Microsoft and they told me it was by sending them a demo CD of their work. Then they asked for my address and mailed a copy of the CD directly to my home. WOW...
One thing the article alludes to that I can definitely corroborate is that John Romero has always been tremendously approachable and friendly to fellow gamers. He has never failed to respond to an e-mail I've sent him and will cc: just about anyone in the game industry to answer a question if he doesn't have one. He's sent me copies of his old Apple games on request and provided all kinds of info on old games, history, trivia. When he says "I'll check my old diskettes and send you an e-mail when I get home from work" he does, no exceptions. I'm not even in the media -- I just like games!
In some ways the Ion Storm / John Romero situation reminds me a bit of the Microsoft / Bill Gates situation. While many people hate Microsoft and make Bill Gates the butt of every joke, very few people who know him ever call his character into question. While the very mention of Ion Storm and John Romero make some people hopping mad, very few people who have met John hold him in such disregard. Maybe people need to make a better distinction between a "company" and a "person." They aren't the same thing.
A megabyte has *always* been 1024k, which is in turn 1024 bytes. Hence a megabyte is 1,048,576 bytes. Always has been, always will be. Giving it a new name simply validates the mistakes of the mail-in MCSEs who've never had to key anything in in hexadecimal.
That's like saying "we're gonna start measuring network bandwidth in megabytes per second cause people are too dense to realize it's actually megabits". It's still wrong.
Sounds to me like al-Qaeda is just looking to take credit for the chaos caused by others.
"You will feel our wrath in the endless bugs and security holes in Windows XP!"
What's next? "We will cause random car accidents in busy intersections and will lace cigarettes with deadly carcinogens!" OOooo, their prophecies are coming true, everybody! Head for the hills!
Probably nothing more than an indication that al-Qaeda are Linux buffs and wanted to see their names on /.
I was watching the news a few years ago and some guy in India had lit himself on fire to protest the Miss Universe pageant. Sorry bastard, didn't know the difference between a worth cause and a silly one.
Surely the fate of the Brazilian dung beetle is more important than this cause. Let's leave the definition of "free" and Free documentation to a later generation who will hopefully have realized what a ridiculous topic this is...
Sorry dude but you are f*cking stupid... OS/2 never had a market share advantage on Windows. In addition, OS/2 was *always* technically superior to Windows, even after Windows 95 was released. If you don't realize that then you're not too smart at all...
Your assertions are ignorant and without merit, too bad you weren't around when these events happened, I'm sure you wouldn't have seemed so silly...
When OS/2 2.0 came out it was far superior to Windows 3.x from a technical perspective. It always has been and always will be. Unfortunately application compatibility has always been the key. Why run Linux, OS/2, MacOS when you can run Office faster under Windows? Until the MicroSloth Windows / Office hegemony is broken we'll have to keep on neglecting terrific operating systems just because Office doesn't run as well on them...
No, network play was available over IPX from the first version of Doom, head-to-head modem play was added in a subsequent patch. The "Some guy" you refer to wrote a generic tool to tunnel IPX over TCP/IP and hence Doom over the internet was finally born.
Since the release of the source there have been a number of hobbyist ports of Doom, but most purists only consider commercial ports when counting the number of platforms on which Doom was released.
Well, considering NeXT was Carmack's primary development platform at the time I would assume the vast majority of development took place on NeXT, not just map-making.
And I'm happy to say I have an unopened copy of every single Doom port, compilation, or "mission pack" ever made. Sadly the only one I don't have is the original, phone-order Doom although I have got a later CD replacement from id.
A great article but I noted a couple historical anomalies:
ID software was created and was composed by John Romero, John Carmack, Tom Hall and Adrian Carmack.
Adrian Carmack didn't actually join until near the end of the first Commander Keen game. Hence the difference in artwork between the first and second trilogy.
January 1993 : The first previews of Doom appeared in the press.
Actually, Jan 1993 was when the game was announced. Screenshots weren't released until Mar, 1993.
August 1993 : An unauthorized beta version of the game appeared, I don't know if it was voluntary
The first leaked alpha appeared Feb 4th, 1993 and was unintended. Another alpha was leaked Apr 2nd, 1993 a beta on May 22nd, 1993, and finally a press beta on Oct 4th, 1993. Only the screenshots of Mar, 1993 were authorized.
It sure is fun to think back on the old days!
You are a fruitcake. You sound like an English teacher or a marketing troll, not a techie... Re-read your post and feel very ashamed...
Funny thing is that the "free" software that Stallman so advocates is so inextricably intertwined with the IP laws he seems to hate. For example, the GPL could not exist without strict intellectual property laws. For example, with no IP you would have no power to insist all derivatives of your work must be bundled with source code. Without IP laws IBM, Microsoft, etc could use your source code with no credit or disclosure. The only thing that gives you the power to control how your source is used or disclosed is your ownership of that source. If your own source code was not legally considered property then the GPL could not exist.
Furthermore, I gotta say that while I can tolerate ignorant Americans, Americans who think they're smart because they know that Canada is "up thar yonder" just fail to impress me. Don't make sweeping statements about our political system if you've only read about it in "Democracy for Dummies..."
Observe the higher quality of life in Canada and the proliferation of subsidized Internet access over there. The two are related.
What have you been smoking? Are you assuming that just because something is available in Canada that means it's subsidized by the government? We're not on crack here, nor are we "paying 1/3 of [our] salary in taxes" to provide subsidized internet access. We also don't wear toques in the summer or eat back bacon
Canada (and Sweden, Finland et-al) are more wired than the USA because we have longer winters (no, not all 12 months) and this means people spend more for internet access during the months you'd prefer not to go outside. It's not because the government buys us a T1...
"They have a right to make money" ...is just plain wrong. Of course they don't, nobody does. They can certainly try, but money isn't a right
Ha, ha. I think it's obvious I meant "they have a right to try". Otherwise I could just declare that I have a right to make money and then sue when it doesn't happen...
It's too bad to see such an interesting subject butchered by someone so lacking in technical knowledge. The entire article felt like a compilation of Comdex marketing brochures. Check this out:
From that first choice came the steamroller effect of Moore's Law, wherein nearly all research, development and production in the semiconductor industry has focused on clocked chips
Yeah, that made sense... Maybe she was thinking of "Murphy's Law"
I havent run LimeWire in a long time but I've gotta say that if this article bothers you please stop using LimeWire. They have every right to make money, if you don't like it simply stop using the service. However to even hint that their new marketing strategies are unethical is the height of ignorance. You have choice, exercise it.
Yeah you're probably right but at least it would have been a possibility. For all their faults they do make a nice OS and a nice Office package. The thing I fault them for is their cross-leveraging. (Use Office to spur Windows upgrades. Then use Windows to spur Office upgrades.) They're also getting quite arrogant with their licensing as well, although people should try not to forget how they permanently lowered the average cost of an office suite in the late 80's during their price war with WordPerfect, Lotus, and Borland. Sadly they achieved this price decrease by dumping product on the market and waiting for their competition to go tits-up...
What I was really hoping to see was Microsoft split up as per Penfield-Jackson's recommendation at which point we would have seen MS-Office for Linux. I've got no issue with Microsoft competing with good products, I just hate to see them use their operating system monopoly to reduce choices (bundling IE) or exclude competitors (not supporting Linux).
"Bob Saget is a perfect example. Holy shit. He is one of the dirtiest, funniest, stand-up comedians I've ever seen"
Wesley Crusher said "shit"...
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