Are you claiming to have a revolutionary new theory about the nature and processes of memory/cognition?
NO, but I do have an idea about something that I would like to find the logical flaws in, not the physical, what is a thought experiment when it leaves the mind?
It's sufficiently rare that someone who hasn't seriously studied a scientific field advances that field
See, I agree perfectly well with this statement (and the other related, just didn't feel like copying them all, per se)
I concur about the discov channel bit, and as far as the bunk bit goes, that is why I posted it here, to get feedback, see if I'm the only one who has ever heard such things, see what the rest of the population (/. seems to generally hit a higher percentage of brainy people) knows, and to start a discussion based on the possibility that this is possible (I believe it is, in my gut, no pun intended)
You're thoughts, and please keep in mind, there is a more developed post off a different child post, might help keep things in order by following one logical discussion, except where a fork is deemed necessary, or until Rob's system archives this article, eh?
I had actually started doing that thread while i was at work last night, so I didn't even have the time I desired for following up myself, as I have school this morning.
Yes I understand the BA and PTA, however, they followed her name on the article, so I followed it as well, since I was aiming for quotes, and to save some people the trouble of just clicking through.
I didn't imagine the author's had a tremendous amount of scientific evidence to back them up, and honestly wasn't even that concerned with the authors so much as the noted anecdotal evidence that could begin to illustrate the idea that organs could carry memory. If they were quacks would totally throw off my argument, but these individuals can apparently think for themselves in some regards, as they have degrees (medical degree is not something to sneeze at, doesn't make you a genius, however). To say that she has NO credibility to me is discarding the fact that she has direct contact with some of these reported individuals. Do all individuals who have had an organ transplant exhibit these signs? I do not know.
Whether or not an individual has a soul (I believe so, very southern baptist) is not at question here, however. Who says the brain is the only place where the mind resides, or memories, this is my argument.
Obviously the ancients knew that the mind extended throughout the body, look at their attempts to treat diseases of the mind. Take that thought process forward and look at current medicines. By taking a pill, we are not ensuring that the medicines are going directly to the brain, but rather through the blood system, which takes it to all parts of the body.
This was the focus of my posting the links, but I am grateful to you for having done the checking to verify that my posts showed people who had their own very definite agendas, not scientific advancement. It shows how just looking for five minutes on the internet does not show everything a person needs to know. That is definitely one of the reasons why I enjoy the community here on/., even if it's not the front page crowd, no that should read, especially when it's not the front page crowd.
While I stand and applaud your research, let me take a moment and ask you what are your opinions now on the subject matter at hand, not the method of delivery? What are your thoughts on the ability of the bodies organs and various cells to store memories, and the thought that the mind is the central connecting agency, not the prime storage facility? Would this possibly in some way point to why we only use 10% of our cranial capacity? (These can be considered widely spread and disassociated thoughts)
Bear in mind that I agree with you that these individuals, who possess a spirit of only pushing their own agenda and refuse to use a scientific method to obtain repeatable results, cannot have their arguments put under the microscope here. Instead, I ask, I urge you to consider the physical consequences involved in what I am proposing/asking about.
please make sure you followup with my other post here, also attached to the parent.
If I am trolling (because I have no reason to doubt the information that i am given by the aforementioned individuals, excepting widespread falsification of multiple issues by controlling organizations [always wear your tinfoil hat]), I very seriously hope that someone will correct me and tell me why my information is incorrect.
you stated:
If true, it would not only mean that information is stored outside of the brain, but also that encoding of this information follows universal rules that enable interpretation of the data in a different brain.
And yes I do. but my personal opine should not be construed the same as the above reported medical cases.
This article talks about "What was most striking were the numerous reports of organ transplant recipients who later experienced changes in personality traits, tastes for food, music, activities and even sexual preference. Is it possible that our memories reside deep inside our bodily cells in addition to in our minds?" and was written by Leslie A. Takeuchi, BA, PTA
This article talks about "In the 19th century a German anatomist Leopold Auerbach observed a complex network of nerve cells in the human digestive tract. And now scientists in the US and Germany are claiming to have rediscovered this so called 'second brain' which is made up of a knot of brain nerves in the digestive tract and is believed to involve around 100 billion nerve cells - more than those held in the spinal cord." and is really just a blurb but quite interesting food for thought. It comes from the Discovery Channel's website, since they do a lot of Health programming. (no puns intended, thanks, altho it is quite funny)
This article is a BB set of posts that is probably how most front page slashdotters would react to this topic, but it does have some insightful information, like this quote from halfway down the page
Let's see...whenever we've done tests with memory, the brain seems to be involved. The simplest example is that you can't remember anything if you've had your brain removed. More complex examples would be fMRI scans which show that different regions of the brain are active when you're doing different mental tasks, including the formation and recall of memories. You could say, "But that's just because the brain is interacting with the mystical unknown in ways which look like it's actually doing something!", but I'll Occam that argument: We have no evidence for non-physical things interacting with the physical realm, so when we see activity in the brain corresponding to activity in the "mind," we should assume that the brain is the location of the mind, not that the brain is some sort of mysterious conduit that we can't understand. If you've got some sort of experiment which would differentiate between these two views, I would be interested in hearing about it.
Also, your memory of the flavor of Pepsi is stored in the way that the neurons in your brain are connected to one another. I'll agree that we don't know exactly how memories work, but that doesn't mean that we know nothing of how memories work, and we should work with what knowledge we have rather than decide that understanding is an all-or-nothing process.
Which leads me to my belief that the organs DO almost all the work of memory, but it is the brain that stitches all that information back together, as well as some information storage of it's own. Does the fact that all information travel via the nerve clusters as electronic impulses that originate and return to the brain have anything to do with the electrical firing that MRI's and the like pick up? More and more I think this is really the case (If you are a medico student and want a thesis, use this, please, if you have seen papers published on this topic, please let me know!!!)
crap, the crux of the story, as most of you may have inferred, is that the woman's transplant donor had been a young man who was unable to participate in the rodeo, but who lived and breathed it none the less. When the followup to this incident occurred, it was discovered that some of the riders that the woman could recall the most detail on (remember, she never had heard of anything related to the sport before this), those where the individuals that the young man looked up to and favored the most.
even preview doesn't help you catch all the mistakes, apparently
well, since i'm not a clinical psych, and don't know where such case studies can be found, i can tell you of some that i have read and have heard directly from the testing psych/medico's.
There are cases whereby organ transplant recipients have memories of something which they have never had any contact with. There was one case where a woman who had only ever heard the term rodeo, but didn't care for horses, cowboys, etc. recieved a [gut organ, liver or kidney or ooom-bop (whatever those are)] transplant, and while she was recovering from surgery in the hospital, turned on the tv in the room and found that she knew all sorts of information about certain professional riders (not even the best known rodeo riders, just some that were good), could give all sorts of stats for those people, and all she had to hear was their name. It was apparently rather well documented, given the circumstances, and is a wonderful example of how we learn. This also gives rise to some rather interesting insights into the historic human psyche, when you consider some of the surgeries that the ancients used to perform. But I digress.
Apparently, it is true that the whole human body is part of our storage facility, and since your mother suffered from a stroke while her body was dealing with cancer, this could definitely explain some of what was going on. It also does kinda go with your theory of the memory-treebark analogy, in that the whole is nothing without the parts, in a wierd kinda way.
Has anyone else heard of these sorts of stories, and does anyone know where to find them? I shall venture henceforth to google journals to see what i can find, but I have no idea if I shall return.
I am the same way, and by way of ref, I was "diagnosed" ADD/ADHD in the late 80's/early 90's (you seriously expect ME to remember when, yeah right, read the first part of the sentence again). I have since spent a lot of time talking to some very knowledgeable (think genius and add some on top) Psychs (both varieties) and have come to the conclusion (which they sometimes acknowledge is a reasonable belief, since so little seems to be known about this "disease" (phhht)) that ADD/ADHD is not a impairment in the way that the mind makes connections with data, but in how much data the mind is anticipating. Kinda like revving your engine and dropping into second, sometimes you're where you need to be to make that happen, sometimes your not. ADD/ADHD people sometimes seem like everyday normal people, and sometimes we're all over the place, and sometimes we're about to fall apart on ya.
But back to you're post, yeah, you're not the only one. I CANNOT seem to get a person's name for anything, but I can do the face/item trick just as well. One of my prof's, double doctorate, retired from TWO psy institutions had a very simple trick for learning names, and he taught it to every one of his classes, psy or otherwise during the first few days of class. Use ONE (no more and no less) phrase everytime you meet someone, and you're brain starts to pick up on when you meet someone, you learn their name. Trust my words, he could pick up any name he could say like this. Most students in my classes could too! (I think my ADD/ADHD/Whatever kept me from being able to do this as quickly as most, but it works. He had us say something to the effect of (but use what works for you):
Hello, my name is ______, and your name is? (wait for answer) Nice to meet you _______.
Keep in mind, we were doing an in class exercise whereby we had to do this over and over with our classmates, but since, it has helped that part of my mind alot, and yes, it does sound really cliche. Please ignore that part, just trust that it REALLY does WORK.
you are forgetting that this does not provide a complete cross section of all american or otherwise consumers.
This would only cross section those consumers who shopped online at those various stores. Even assuming one third of americans purchased ten percent of all household purchases on websites, you would have an indicative three percent of all purchases to make up for one hundred percent of all american characteristics? Does it really make sense that people anywhere, US, worldwide or in any particular town or "net-hood" only eat pizza and drink coke or pepsi? are you telling me that places like hard rock cafe don't actually sell food, they only talk about it?
The point i'm making is not that many people order their groceries online, and with the exception of pre-ordering and pre-paying for your food while making online reservations - which is a system i have not heard of, although someone is bound to do it soon - so you're assumption based on the above comment is that all purchases online are indicative of all people in a group somewhere, means that nobody on the planet or whichever region ever eats. So why are we all still here?
Just because an idea sounds good on paper for doing research, this is not a valid idea for judging all consumers. Now i'm going to leave out how the Gartner Group or some other group of a similar rep could do some polling of this nature for another poster to have a chance to refute my own claims, I just want to point out that I see both sides, I just think the parent post was not to well considered. Thanks, my $.02
/ begin side rant I personally thought that Planet of the Apes was a good sci-fi movie of what if, not a social commentation nor an analogy of slavery. I have never sat down and wondered if it was a possible commentary on post-war (WWII) Europe, or an example of Communism gone bad, or what it would be like if my belly-button lint froze the sun or anything else.
All of those PC people out there that are so hung up on OOOOOHHH, WHAT DID HE SAY? can get off their soapbox and come back to work now. Unless they're too good for work. Like those people who had to get BUSSED from one natural disaster site, only to be in the middle of the next natural disaster site in the US southeast because they DIDN'T WORK SO THEY DIDN'T OWN THEIR OWN CARS. I know that I personally volunteered to drive my whole family from the SE US to somewhere safer, because I didn't want to have so many of our cars helping cause congestion on the highway, knowing what we were getting into, but there's a social commentary waiting to happen, the people whose government assisted living was washed away in New Orleans, LA
This has been a rant provided to you by one pissed off but levelheaded southerner - not a RACIST, just someone who has to work and expects all other able bodied citizens of the planet to as well.
Yes, if you can find the Asus board, look for a PC-DL and two Intel Xeons 3.06Ghz, you're only going to be set back about $600 - 800, so long as you're looking for deals. Throw in the ram and you're not going to snag a grand.
The only problem is I haven't found a board that I like as much as this with 2 PCIe x16 and a 800/1066 fsb (400/533), as well as all the onboard outs (storage, etc) so if anyones seen a better one, let me know, okay?
i only posted this because apparently people think dual Z's are expensive systems, not really for a good performer
Now can the chip demons out there tell me if the Z is truly a P4 with the server extensions or if they really did redo the P4 after HT so that they are playing around with 6 cores like they used to be?
I realize that it should be written/^H for remove previous character from input line, however, I feel as though some of our younger audience (considering the high members numbers) may not understand that terminology, and I hoped they would understand the/B to be a Backspace command.
--End Bad Monty Pythong Stylized Voiceover--
Feel free to flame me now, I just wanted to take the time to explain that I'm not that ignorant of my shell keystrokes. (Now how to make people understand that what they see on their keylog reports is not always the same as what I see)
--low drum sound in background, campfire backlighting, village elder's face -- Those are drastic words my friend. I would seriously consider waiting till 36" LCD's are free and SLI is too slow before I would invest in this technology as the sole purchase price of giving up the great pleasure that is vi for the user friendliness of EMACS.
--Bright sunny day, cheery british person -- Or tomorrow, if that's good with you.
--This hallucination brought (on) to you by the mystical elves/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B good people of the NSA/B/B/B nVidia corporation
No, see I think you missed the point. Originally SLI was to increase the GPU processing output on one monitor by combining the processing capability of two cards. However, due to some "technical limitation", SLI cards running linked like this could only display on one out at a time.
With this tech, you can now run the SLI to get the performance benefits of linking all four GPUs together if that is what makes you happy, however the power of any one GPU is as good as a two gen old dual card SLI combo, so each GPU can push one monitors worth of output and it still look as good as the older (remem two gens here) cards working in tandem.
The idea IS to be able to push 4 monitors at high performance, and IF I had that kind of money, I WOULD spend it on this, if only to combine it with some of the new multicore chips that are about to hit market (based on all the speculative vapor_______ that is Silicon Valley).
As far as better performance on one monitor, you would !!!!probably (I Am Not A Graphics Card Engineer)!!!! be getting about halfway between 1600X1200 and 3200X2400 so probably 2400x1800 or thereabouts with a massive color range (think way beyond 32 bits?)
Almost all of the information I have used here for my interpretation of these events and counter-argument to the parent post (not troll-argument) is from open and widely available SLI information on numerous websites. If you do not follow my train of logic (except for the combined out resolution stuff), let me know and I will post my info sources (some anyways) here.
Have you ever noticed that political cycles tend to lead economic cycles by about two years. Political cycles tend to lead public realization (as in a bill is passed, and people realize how it affects their lives) by about 12 to 36 months. Most of the problems that people so willingly blame on Bush were caused by Clinton. Most of the DotCom bubble was instituted by some of the legislation from the Bush (sr) administration. A great many things which a {Republican/Democratic} Congress pushes through as law HAS TO BE SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Did we all forget that all of a sudden?
A lot of things (including some of the above) have absolutely nothing to do with politics at all. The politicians come sliding in behind and try and stick their fingers in a great many pies.
Unfortunately this usually works to their own benefit, and not so much our own.
Speaking of politicians and their own benefits, where's my $20k/yr cost of living increase? Uh-huh.
A buddy of mine pirates movies from the video store all the time. He has a nice DVD player, a four-head VCR and an old six-head Toshiba VCR. Now, a lot of the time, he can make his recordings just fine, however, some of the movies (IIRC DVD's alot) won't record, due to the flags, etc on the four-head. However, he just changes over to that six-head Toshiba VCR and he's good to go. Either that VCR doesn't bother with any flags, doesn't know about them, or just flat out doesn't care about whether flags are present or not.
I call this a little piece of engineering heaven, but here's the deal. So long as devices like this exist, and so long as places like RadioShack sell devices that convert signals from one format to another (and they're available for almost every conversion to every other conversion, you just have to dig) then you should be able to record from any one format to any other format no problem, and still be able to record things off the air. Flag or no.
Now, two problems do present themselves, but alas, we'll see. 1) Purchasing the equipment now. 2) Purchasing the tapes in the future.
However, to circumvent the tape situation, just consider this. Copy from input to tape, then from tape back to DVD via in-home DVD recorder. Unless you seriously believe that the government will pass legislation forbidding the recording of home movies and the transference of home movies to personal DVD recordings.
If they're not there to see what you're recording, can they know ahead of time that it's not a personal video?
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It's too bad nobody has mod points while looking at this article. This parent deserves mod + for funny.
yeah, guilty, maybe we could get a poll going on this one, eh (okay, so i'm bored at work)
Did anyone else read this article (with reference here) as quantum link between two computers reverse engineered and message decrypted (thus violating Schrodinger's principle?) 1) yes, with guilty pleasure 2) yes, why, is there some other quantum link known to mankind 3) no, what other quantum link could there be? 4) cowboyneal
According to the Japanese vision for Sky City (iirc) there would be seven bowls whereby each would be open to a central atrium. It would not be inconcievable to know most of the people on your bowl, and with plenty of room for shops, bars, etc. Each bowl would also have the same population as most small towns.
sorry to be in such a rush, saw this right as i was headed out the door.
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Are you claiming to have a revolutionary new theory about the nature and processes of memory/cognition?
NO, but I do have an idea about something that I would like to find the logical flaws in, not the physical, what is a thought experiment when it leaves the mind?
It's sufficiently rare that someone who hasn't seriously studied a scientific field advances that field
See, I agree perfectly well with this statement (and the other related, just didn't feel like copying them all, per se)
I concur about the discov channel bit, and as far as the bunk bit goes, that is why I posted it here, to get feedback, see if I'm the only one who has ever heard such things, see what the rest of the population (/. seems to generally hit a higher percentage of brainy people) knows, and to start a discussion based on the possibility that this is possible (I believe it is, in my gut, no pun intended)
You're thoughts, and please keep in mind, there is a more developed post off a different child post, might help keep things in order by following one logical discussion, except where a fork is deemed necessary, or until Rob's system archives this article, eh?
I had actually started doing that thread while i was at work last night, so I didn't even have the time I desired for following up myself, as I have school this morning.
/., even if it's not the front page crowd, no that should read, especially when it's not the front page crowd.
Yes I understand the BA and PTA, however, they followed her name on the article, so I followed it as well, since I was aiming for quotes, and to save some people the trouble of just clicking through.
I didn't imagine the author's had a tremendous amount of scientific evidence to back them up, and honestly wasn't even that concerned with the authors so much as the noted anecdotal evidence that could begin to illustrate the idea that organs could carry memory. If they were quacks would totally throw off my argument, but these individuals can apparently think for themselves in some regards, as they have degrees (medical degree is not something to sneeze at, doesn't make you a genius, however). To say that she has NO credibility to me is discarding the fact that she has direct contact with some of these reported individuals. Do all individuals who have had an organ transplant exhibit these signs? I do not know.
Whether or not an individual has a soul (I believe so, very southern baptist) is not at question here, however. Who says the brain is the only place where the mind resides, or memories, this is my argument.
Obviously the ancients knew that the mind extended throughout the body, look at their attempts to treat diseases of the mind. Take that thought process forward and look at current medicines. By taking a pill, we are not ensuring that the medicines are going directly to the brain, but rather through the blood system, which takes it to all parts of the body.
This was the focus of my posting the links, but I am grateful to you for having done the checking to verify that my posts showed people who had their own very definite agendas, not scientific advancement. It shows how just looking for five minutes on the internet does not show everything a person needs to know. That is definitely one of the reasons why I enjoy the community here on
While I stand and applaud your research, let me take a moment and ask you what are your opinions now on the subject matter at hand, not the method of delivery? What are your thoughts on the ability of the bodies organs and various cells to store memories, and the thought that the mind is the central connecting agency, not the prime storage facility? Would this possibly in some way point to why we only use 10% of our cranial capacity? (These can be considered widely spread and disassociated thoughts)
Bear in mind that I agree with you that these individuals, who possess a spirit of only pushing their own agenda and refuse to use a scientific method to obtain repeatable results, cannot have their arguments put under the microscope here. Instead, I ask, I urge you to consider the physical consequences involved in what I am proposing/asking about.
If I am trolling (because I have no reason to doubt the information that i am given by the aforementioned individuals, excepting widespread falsification of multiple issues by controlling organizations [always wear your tinfoil hat]), I very seriously hope that someone will correct me and tell me why my information is incorrect.
you stated: And yes I do. but my personal opine should not be construed the same as the above reported medical cases.
gotta go, time for class
This article talks about "In the 19th century a German anatomist Leopold Auerbach observed a complex network of nerve cells in the human digestive tract. And now scientists in the US and Germany are claiming to have rediscovered this so called 'second brain' which is made up of a knot of brain nerves in the digestive tract and is believed to involve around 100 billion nerve cells - more than those held in the spinal cord." and is really just a blurb but quite interesting food for thought. It comes from the Discovery Channel's website, since they do a lot of Health programming. (no puns intended, thanks, altho it is quite funny)
This article is a BB set of posts that is probably how most front page slashdotters would react to this topic, but it does have some insightful information, like this quote from halfway down the page Which leads me to my belief that the organs DO almost all the work of memory, but it is the brain that stitches all that information back together, as well as some information storage of it's own. Does the fact that all information travel via the nerve clusters as electronic impulses that originate and return to the brain have anything to do with the electrical firing that MRI's and the like pick up? More and more I think this is really the case (If you are a medico student and want a thesis, use this, please, if you have seen papers published on this topic, please let me know!!!)
crap, the crux of the story, as most of you may have inferred, is that the woman's transplant donor had been a young man who was unable to participate in the rodeo, but who lived and breathed it none the less. When the followup to this incident occurred, it was discovered that some of the riders that the woman could recall the most detail on (remember, she never had heard of anything related to the sport before this), those where the individuals that the young man looked up to and favored the most.
even preview doesn't help you catch all the mistakes, apparently
well, since i'm not a clinical psych, and don't know where such case studies can be found, i can tell you of some that i have read and have heard directly from the testing psych/medico's.
There are cases whereby organ transplant recipients have memories of something which they have never had any contact with. There was one case where a woman who had only ever heard the term rodeo, but didn't care for horses, cowboys, etc. recieved a [gut organ, liver or kidney or ooom-bop (whatever those are)] transplant, and while she was recovering from surgery in the hospital, turned on the tv in the room and found that she knew all sorts of information about certain professional riders (not even the best known rodeo riders, just some that were good), could give all sorts of stats for those people, and all she had to hear was their name. It was apparently rather well documented, given the circumstances, and is a wonderful example of how we learn. This also gives rise to some rather interesting insights into the historic human psyche, when you consider some of the surgeries that the ancients used to perform. But I digress.
Apparently, it is true that the whole human body is part of our storage facility, and since your mother suffered from a stroke while her body was dealing with cancer, this could definitely explain some of what was going on. It also does kinda go with your theory of the memory-treebark analogy, in that the whole is nothing without the parts, in a wierd kinda way.
Has anyone else heard of these sorts of stories, and does anyone know where to find them? I shall venture henceforth to google journals to see what i can find, but I have no idea if I shall return.
Anybody else know?
I am the same way, and by way of ref, I was "diagnosed" ADD/ADHD in the late 80's/early 90's (you seriously expect ME to remember when, yeah right, read the first part of the sentence again). I have since spent a lot of time talking to some very knowledgeable (think genius and add some on top) Psychs (both varieties) and have come to the conclusion (which they sometimes acknowledge is a reasonable belief, since so little seems to be known about this "disease" (phhht)) that ADD/ADHD is not a impairment in the way that the mind makes connections with data, but in how much data the mind is anticipating. Kinda like revving your engine and dropping into second, sometimes you're where you need to be to make that happen, sometimes your not. ADD/ADHD people sometimes seem like everyday normal people, and sometimes we're all over the place, and sometimes we're about to fall apart on ya.
But back to you're post, yeah, you're not the only one. I CANNOT seem to get a person's name for anything, but I can do the face/item trick just as well. One of my prof's, double doctorate, retired from TWO psy institutions had a very simple trick for learning names, and he taught it to every one of his classes, psy or otherwise during the first few days of class. Use ONE (no more and no less) phrase everytime you meet someone, and you're brain starts to pick up on when you meet someone, you learn their name. Trust my words, he could pick up any name he could say like this. Most students in my classes could too! (I think my ADD/ADHD/Whatever kept me from being able to do this as quickly as most, but it works. He had us say something to the effect of (but use what works for you):
Hello, my name is ______, and your name is? (wait for answer) Nice to meet you _______.
Keep in mind, we were doing an in class exercise whereby we had to do this over and over with our classmates, but since, it has helped that part of my mind alot, and yes, it does sound really cliche. Please ignore that part, just trust that it REALLY does WORK.
my $.02, have questions, just ask
No, but if we were Nerds then we could get the backing of Lamda Lamda Lamda
or is there a b in there somewhere? I know, I should google it, i'm too hopelessly lazy tho
you are forgetting that this does not provide a complete cross section of all american or otherwise consumers.
This would only cross section those consumers who shopped online at those various stores. Even assuming one third of americans purchased ten percent of all household purchases on websites, you would have an indicative three percent of all purchases to make up for one hundred percent of all american characteristics? Does it really make sense that people anywhere, US, worldwide or in any particular town or "net-hood" only eat pizza and drink coke or pepsi? are you telling me that places like hard rock cafe don't actually sell food, they only talk about it?
The point i'm making is not that many people order their groceries online, and with the exception of pre-ordering and pre-paying for your food while making online reservations - which is a system i have not heard of, although someone is bound to do it soon - so you're assumption based on the above comment is that all purchases online are indicative of all people in a group somewhere, means that nobody on the planet or whichever region ever eats. So why are we all still here?
Just because an idea sounds good on paper for doing research, this is not a valid idea for judging all consumers. Now i'm going to leave out how the Gartner Group or some other group of a similar rep could do some polling of this nature for another poster to have a chance to refute my own claims, I just want to point out that I see both sides, I just think the parent post was not to well considered. Thanks, my $.02
/ begin side rant
I personally thought that Planet of the Apes was a good sci-fi movie of what if, not a social commentation nor an analogy of slavery. I have never sat down and wondered if it was a possible commentary on post-war (WWII) Europe, or an example of Communism gone bad, or what it would be like if my belly-button lint froze the sun or anything else.
All of those PC people out there that are so hung up on OOOOOHHH, WHAT DID HE SAY? can get off their soapbox and come back to work now. Unless they're too good for work. Like those people who had to get BUSSED from one natural disaster site, only to be in the middle of the next natural disaster site in the US southeast because they DIDN'T WORK SO THEY DIDN'T OWN THEIR OWN CARS. I know that I personally volunteered to drive my whole family from the SE US to somewhere safer, because I didn't want to have so many of our cars helping cause congestion on the highway, knowing what we were getting into, but there's a social commentary waiting to happen, the people whose government assisted living was washed away in New Orleans, LA
This has been a rant provided to you by one pissed off but levelheaded southerner - not a RACIST, just someone who has to work and expects all other able bodied citizens of the planet to as well.
/ End rant, thanks for pardoning me
wasn't the ppg by either the same group or same creative origination as dexters lab?
I know they have a very same/similar illustration appearance
or maybe I haven't reallly watched enough of either to notice the difference?
Pardon me
ONE?
somebody pass the pipe man
four vid outs, and you want one?
tell em you gotta be able to work effectively and order at least 3
Yes, if you can find the Asus board, look for a PC-DL and two Intel Xeons 3.06Ghz, you're only going to be set back about $600 - 800, so long as you're looking for deals. Throw in the ram and you're not going to snag a grand.
The only problem is I haven't found a board that I like as much as this with 2 PCIe x16 and a 800/1066 fsb (400/533), as well as all the onboard outs (storage, etc) so if anyones seen a better one, let me know, okay?
i only posted this because apparently people think dual Z's are expensive systems, not really for a good performer
Now can the chip demons out there tell me if the Z is truly a P4 with the server extensions or if they really did redo the P4 after HT so that they are playing around with 6 cores like they used to be?
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/^H for remove previous character from input line, however, I feel as though some of our younger audience (considering the high members numbers) may not understand that terminology, and I hoped they would understand the /B to be a Backspace command.
I realize that it should be written
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Feel free to flame me now, I just wanted to take the time to explain that I'm not that ignorant of my shell keystrokes. (Now how to make people understand that what they see on their keylog reports is not always the same as what I see)
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/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B/B good people of the NSA /B/B/B nVidia corporation
Those are drastic words my friend. I would seriously consider waiting till 36" LCD's are free and SLI is too slow before I would invest in this technology as the sole purchase price of giving up the great pleasure that is vi for the user friendliness of EMACS.
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Or tomorrow, if that's good with you.
--This hallucination brought (on) to you by the mystical elves
No, see I think you missed the point. Originally SLI was to increase the GPU processing output on one monitor by combining the processing capability of two cards. However, due to some "technical limitation", SLI cards running linked like this could only display on one out at a time.
With this tech, you can now run the SLI to get the performance benefits of linking all four GPUs together if that is what makes you happy, however the power of any one GPU is as good as a two gen old dual card SLI combo, so each GPU can push one monitors worth of output and it still look as good as the older (remem two gens here) cards working in tandem.
The idea IS to be able to push 4 monitors at high performance, and IF I had that kind of money, I WOULD spend it on this, if only to combine it with some of the new multicore chips that are about to hit market (based on all the speculative vapor_______ that is Silicon Valley).
As far as better performance on one monitor, you would !!!!probably (I Am Not A Graphics Card Engineer)!!!! be getting about halfway between 1600X1200 and 3200X2400 so probably 2400x1800 or thereabouts with a massive color range (think way beyond 32 bits?)
Almost all of the information I have used here for my interpretation of these events and counter-argument to the parent post (not troll-argument) is from open and widely available SLI information on numerous websites. If you do not follow my train of logic (except for the combined out resolution stuff), let me know and I will post my info sources (some anyways) here.
Have you ever noticed that political cycles tend to lead economic cycles by about two years. Political cycles tend to lead public realization (as in a bill is passed, and people realize how it affects their lives) by about 12 to 36 months. Most of the problems that people so willingly blame on Bush were caused by Clinton. Most of the DotCom bubble was instituted by some of the legislation from the Bush (sr) administration. A great many things which a {Republican/Democratic} Congress pushes through as law HAS TO BE SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Did we all forget that all of a sudden?
A lot of things (including some of the above) have absolutely nothing to do with politics at all. The politicians come sliding in behind and try and stick their fingers in a great many pies.
Unfortunately this usually works to their own benefit, and not so much our own.
Speaking of politicians and their own benefits, where's my $20k/yr cost of living increase? Uh-huh.
Reckon we can get you a job at pcmag now that you have down the art of the rant?
Oh wait, you rant too well.
My bad.
hell, even i can't get it right -
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sheesh, and we let these guys mod because . . . ?
There is always this to think about:
A buddy of mine pirates movies from the video store all the time. He has a nice DVD player, a four-head VCR and an old six-head Toshiba VCR. Now, a lot of the time, he can make his recordings just fine, however, some of the movies (IIRC DVD's alot) won't record, due to the flags, etc on the four-head. However, he just changes over to that six-head Toshiba VCR and he's good to go. Either that VCR doesn't bother with any flags, doesn't know about them, or just flat out doesn't care about whether flags are present or not.
I call this a little piece of engineering heaven, but here's the deal. So long as devices like this exist, and so long as places like RadioShack sell devices that convert signals from one format to another (and they're available for almost every conversion to every other conversion, you just have to dig) then you should be able to record from any one format to any other format no problem, and still be able to record things off the air. Flag or no.
Now, two problems do present themselves, but alas, we'll see.
1) Purchasing the equipment now.
2) Purchasing the tapes in the future.
However, to circumvent the tape situation, just consider this. Copy from input to tape, then from tape back to DVD via in-home DVD recorder. Unless you seriously believe that the government will pass legislation forbidding the recording of home movies and the transference of home movies to personal DVD recordings.
If they're not there to see what you're recording, can they know ahead of time that it's not a personal video?
It's too bad nobody has mod points while looking at this article. This parent deserves mod + for funny.
If you type in the address given in the middle of the page, are you aware that publicly it gives the login screen to a mysql db?
Isn't this a good invitation for a brute hack being that you've now been slashdotted?
Just thought I'd ask. . .
yeah, guilty, maybe we could get a poll going on this one, eh (okay, so i'm bored at work)
Did anyone else read this article (with reference here) as quantum link between two computers reverse engineered and message decrypted (thus violating Schrodinger's principle?)
1) yes, with guilty pleasure
2) yes, why, is there some other quantum link known to mankind
3) no, what other quantum link could there be?
4) cowboyneal
According to the Japanese vision for Sky City (iirc) there would be seven bowls whereby each would be open to a central atrium. It would not be inconcievable to know most of the people on your bowl, and with plenty of room for shops, bars, etc. Each bowl would also have the same population as most small towns.
sorry to be in such a rush, saw this right as i was headed out the door.