I have had problems in the past looking at various hardware and comparing the true costs of it, especially support. With the third party support companies out there (we use Terix, amongst others), there are so many options, and with yearly support contracts in excess of $100,000, for our relatively small company, mis-calculating these in a recommendation can be a very big deal.
Just my $.02... oh, also just plain reviews of support companies on different hardware would be good also.
Hrm, I could have sworn that they said Derby/Cloudscape is SQL92 compliant... I think that's enough reason to say, "No. It is not similar to Berkeley DB. In fact it is most definitely dissimilar".
First off, SQL92 compliancy would infer relationships, and ability to have more than two columns per table, which Berkeley DB does not do. It is not queryable as such, and definitely not with SQL. It also only allows two columns per table; a key:data pair. There is some ability for relationships... kinda. But not the way you are thinking.
They are both lightweight, and from what I hear cloudscape is nice to work with (I only have direct experience with Berkeley DB), so in that way they are similar.
Cows are dumb animals. Nowhere near as smart as Dogs, in my observations. My dog has an invisible fence, and a shock collar with a remote. When she is doing something bad within the fenceline, I shock or audibly warn her with the remote, however immediately afterwards she is unsure which direction to move as there was not a previous boundary in that location, and no visible clues to show what is safe/unsafe.
I would think that you would need a visual cue to reinforce the audible/physical fenceline...
You shouldn't be forced to use SQL for manipulating data, you should be restrained from using Excel.;) The reality of the differences between a spreadsheet and a database is that a spreadsheet lacks the data constraints (relationships) necessary to keep a user from entering bad data. A database can control this (data integrity) to a large degree (depending on your datamodel design).
An example I fight with daily is product attributes. I maintain a n ecommerce database with about 180,000 products, each of which would have, say, a color. The problem is that if I import data from a spreadsheet it might randomly insert spaces in the data (i.e. "Black " or " Black" instead of "Black"), whereas if I get the data entered through our tools, the user selects from a list of colors, and only if the choice doesn't exist do they add a new one.
You mention how people are doing a knee-jerk that 'DB's are sacred'. Yes, they are. So are spreadsheets, the problem is that people bastard-ize their use and end up confused about why they both exist, and how to use them.
Database = Data storage, data consistency, ease of data maintenance Spreadsheet = Data analysis, data redundancy, lack of data integrity.
I do some freelance web design, and had built a nice site for the SCTA-BNI (Southern California Timing Association/Bonneville Nationals Inc... you know, the salt flat and dry lakes racers?). I offered it to them free of charge, provided I was able do the full gamut (at the time I was looking for some more items for my portfolio, and their site needed work BAD).
About a month after they stopped responding, their site had a very familiar design, albeit rendered in Frontpage!! I contacted them and asked that they remove/discard/change it, they refused. What's a guy to do?
"there are two types of motorcyclists: those who have crashed, and those who are going to crash". I wonder what the parallel saying would be in the one-wheeled world?
Image number AA024508 at Photodisc (creative.gettyimages.com, select Photodisc). Scroll down in a mozilla browser, the guy who wrote this page obviously didn't care about us _REAL_ users... just the SCO's of the world.;)
One of the core features of Linux is the ability to choose. I use Metacity on Redhat 9 on one machine, Blackbox on Redhat 7.3 on another, and Fluxbox on Debian Potato on a third. On the machines at work, we have X-less servers, and Solaris with Gnome.
I think for a beginner it's nice to have a standard, but that's why I recommend beginners go out and get Redhat, or Mandrake with their excellent easy setup, and install tools.
Don't force me to have a WM, I don't always need one. But, if you make one that is clean, quick, lightweight, and easy to use, I'll have 20 copies by noon today, thank you.
Heck, I'd probably even be willing to pay for a few of them!
I enjoy nature a bunch. I also get a kick out of what we humans have done to nature (parks, billboards, giant concrete statues).
I spent a couple years as a field service tech and zipped around north america. I would say you need to set foot into Mexico, go to the Utah Salt flats, visit Rocky Mountain National Park, Niagra Falls, Washington D.C. (Smithsonian is AWESOME), Savannah GA is just plain beautiful (drive north into southern South Carolina... Beaufort is gorgeous).
The next week you'll want to get up to Duluth/Two Harbors MN, and Bayfield, WI. Maybe zip over to Traverse City, MI and go to Mackinaw Island. Drive from Oklahoma City to Dallas, TX... it's very surprising. Spend some time in New Mexico near the border with TX... watch a sunset here on a partly cloudy day... you'll never want to leave.
Visit the Central Coast of Californ-I-A, San Luis Obispo is a great little town, and the wine is exceptional (Dry Reislings, Pinot Noir, etc). Spend a hot humid day in Houston TX, and you'll appreciate a hotter dry day in Phoenix AZ.
Drive up through Lake Tahoe and Trukke... maybe pop into Yosemite. On the other end of the continent visit Gettysburg, PA.
This is a great country, continent, and world. I appreciate having been able to go to so many cool places, but I also know that I haven't even wandered into the woods near my house. You could stay at home and find as many amazing places!
Take care, have fun, bring a camera, and stay safe,
While I was travelling the last couple years I needed(wanted?) internet access most everywhere I went. The only real choice(AOL is not a choice) was to go with MSN. I ran Redhat 5.1 on a Toshiba laptop, and travelled all 42 states, Canada, Mexico, and visited all the others online. I worked fine after a little setup help from a knowledgeable fellow at MSN.
I've begun watching the Real World, and have decided that I am going to start dressing and speaking like the cast members... I have plans for a convention next year... also these 'cell phones' look intriguing, but are far too advanced for us... what with people actually answering calls...?
Your cessna is an f-18?
I see what you are saying... that having some training makes a guy dangerous. However, I think that if the head of cosmonaut training thinks he's ready, who am I to say otherwise?
The other thing is that you having 100hrs in a cessna, which is a fair amount, is NOT the same as having 100 hrs in a Flight Safety simulator of an f-18. I would change the "Practically a Fighter Pilot" to "Practically ready for IFR training", or perhaps, "Practiacally ready for twin prop training".
I've tried my darndest, but have yet to make apples out of oranges. Lastly, I think you can get training in a russian military jet trainer for around $20,000 US... If you want I'll get you the link... bcarlson@idiotusers.com
Read This article at cnn.com, and you will see that Dennis Tito has over 700 HOURS of training, and is "practically a professional cosmonaut" in the words of Pyotr Klimuk, head of the cosmonaut-training base.
Ok, what happens here is a table cannot display until it is completely loaded. This means in order to have a banner ad display first, the banner must not be in the same table as the rest of the page.
Use your 'view >>> source' menus on some of these pages to see what I'm talking about.
In fact, just view the source on Slashdot here, they do it too!
Another added cost? This is an IT managers' dream! It's so much easier to sell expensive software to the boss, than to convince them that free software is better. Thanks RedHat!
No one. No one at all should use software that is as ridiculously written as the stuff in this article is. No one. The programmers have less brain wave activity than my grandmother. And she's been dead since 1987.
Of course they are GENIUSES compared to the idiot media who apparently think this is a common way of writing e-commerce apps!
Once again, the media takes something which had been a problem/concern - albeit slight - and creates a fiasco over it!!
and if I ever catch any of you using Sanctum, or even thinking of it I'll personally he-bitch man-slap you!
Interestingly enough, you must be mistaken... my brother is a winemaker, and thus does not drink beer (often anyways). Also, he has been divorced from his wife for almost a year, and does not live near her currently.
I am however interested in knowing how you realized it was I who could bear the brunt of your entertaining ridicule with light-hearted banter? You've made my day more pleasant, knowing now that a quick smile will come to my face at every post by an anonymous coward, and that I will think of you and your goat molesting ways.
Does it seem strange to you that HP would simultaneously issue a new version of a product, and let potential buyers know that support is going to be killed in a finite amount of time?
It seems to me this is counter productive... What possible benefit would this have as far as the marketing of this product?
I visited my brother for Christmas, and toured the Ernie Ball factory (his buddy is a salesman there)... this guitar rocks! The Tach actually moves the harder you hit the strings! it has a 'Hurst' style '8-ball' shifter, and shift boot, and has really nice chromed pipes cut into the body. I don't recall what the inlays are, but every detail was fabulous, and very over the top -- Just Spinal Tap's style!
2001-03-21 09:22:32 I'm always wrong, so I'm shooting for later, rather than sooner. I assume that they will have to postpone at least one more time...
Our scientists can work at this as much as they want, but without some form of worldwide consent I assume we wouldn't deploy it. Also, what about the religions which don't believe in tampering with the eco system? will they have a say in all of this?
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I have had problems in the past looking at various hardware and comparing the true costs of it, especially support. With the third party support companies out there (we use Terix, amongst others), there are so many options, and with yearly support contracts in excess of $100,000, for our relatively small company, mis-calculating these in a recommendation can be a very big deal.
Just my $.02... oh, also just plain reviews of support companies on different hardware would be good also.
Hrm, I could have sworn that they said Derby/Cloudscape is SQL92 compliant... I think that's enough reason to say, "No. It is not similar to Berkeley DB. In fact it is most definitely dissimilar".
:)
First off, SQL92 compliancy would infer relationships, and ability to have more than two columns per table, which Berkeley DB does not do. It is not queryable as such, and definitely not with SQL. It also only allows two columns per table; a key:data pair. There is some ability for relationships... kinda. But not the way you are thinking.
They are both lightweight, and from what I hear cloudscape is nice to work with (I only have direct experience with Berkeley DB), so in that way they are similar.
Facts? We don't need no stinking facts!
Cows are dumb animals. Nowhere near as smart as Dogs, in my observations. My dog has an invisible fence, and a shock collar with a remote. When she is doing something bad within the fenceline, I shock or audibly warn her with the remote, however immediately afterwards she is unsure which direction to move as there was not a previous boundary in that location, and no visible clues to show what is safe/unsafe.
I would think that you would need a visual cue to reinforce the audible/physical fenceline...
Just my $.02
You shouldn't be forced to use SQL for manipulating data, you should be restrained from using Excel. ;) The reality of the differences between a spreadsheet and a database is that a spreadsheet lacks the data constraints (relationships) necessary to keep a user from entering bad data. A database can control this (data integrity) to a large degree (depending on your datamodel design).
An example I fight with daily is product attributes. I maintain a n ecommerce database with about 180,000 products, each of which would have, say, a color. The problem is that if I import data from a spreadsheet it might randomly insert spaces in the data (i.e. "Black " or " Black" instead of "Black"), whereas if I get the data entered through our tools, the user selects from a list of colors, and only if the choice doesn't exist do they add a new one.
You mention how people are doing a knee-jerk that 'DB's are sacred'. Yes, they are. So are spreadsheets, the problem is that people bastard-ize their use and end up confused about why they both exist, and how to use them.
Database = Data storage, data consistency, ease of data maintenance
Spreadsheet = Data analysis, data redundancy, lack of data integrity.
That's how I see it, anyhow.
I do some freelance web design, and had built a nice site for the SCTA-BNI (Southern California Timing Association/Bonneville Nationals Inc... you know, the salt flat and dry lakes racers?). I offered it to them free of charge, provided I was able do the full gamut (at the time I was looking for some more items for my portfolio, and their site needed work BAD).
Their site: scta-bni.org
My design: idiotusers.com
About a month after they stopped responding, their site had a very familiar design, albeit rendered in Frontpage!! I contacted them and asked that they remove/discard/change it, they refused. What's a guy to do?
It disgusts me.
Bill Bryson wrote a book I'm reading which is an excellent general question answerer: "A Short History of Nearly Everything" Amazon
It goes into craters, and also the Yellowstone super volcano. It's pretty interesting and fun to read (as are all of his books!)
Anonomous stories. Unverifiable, anonymous stories. Hrm, and who should I make the check out to, mr.....? Sounds silly to me.
"there are two types of motorcyclists: those who have crashed, and those who are going to crash". I wonder what the parallel saying would be in the one-wheeled world?
...either, as evidenced by the parent. Leave Billy alone, he doesn't know any better.
Image number AA024508 at Photodisc (creative.gettyimages.com, select Photodisc). Scroll down in a mozilla browser, the guy who wrote this page obviously didn't care about us _REAL_ users... just the SCO's of the world. ;)
That's all for now...
One of the core features of Linux is the ability to choose. I use Metacity on Redhat 9 on one machine, Blackbox on Redhat 7.3 on another, and Fluxbox on Debian Potato on a third. On the machines at work, we have X-less servers, and Solaris with Gnome.
I think for a beginner it's nice to have a standard, but that's why I recommend beginners go out and get Redhat, or Mandrake with their excellent easy setup, and install tools.
Don't force me to have a WM, I don't always need one. But, if you make one that is clean, quick, lightweight, and easy to use, I'll have 20 copies by noon today, thank you.
Heck, I'd probably even be willing to pay for a few of them!
I enjoy nature a bunch. I also get a kick out of what we humans have done to nature (parks, billboards, giant concrete statues).
I spent a couple years as a field service tech and zipped around north america. I would say you need to set foot into Mexico, go to the Utah Salt flats, visit Rocky Mountain National Park, Niagra Falls, Washington D.C. (Smithsonian is AWESOME), Savannah GA is just plain beautiful (drive north into southern South Carolina... Beaufort is gorgeous).
The next week you'll want to get up to Duluth/Two Harbors MN, and Bayfield, WI. Maybe zip over to Traverse City, MI and go to Mackinaw Island. Drive from Oklahoma City to Dallas, TX... it's very surprising. Spend some time in New Mexico near the border with TX... watch a sunset here on a partly cloudy day... you'll never want to leave.
Visit the Central Coast of Californ-I-A, San Luis Obispo is a great little town, and the wine is exceptional (Dry Reislings, Pinot Noir, etc). Spend a hot humid day in Houston TX, and you'll appreciate a hotter dry day in Phoenix AZ.
Drive up through Lake Tahoe and Trukke... maybe pop into Yosemite. On the other end of the continent visit Gettysburg, PA.
This is a great country, continent, and world. I appreciate having been able to go to so many cool places, but I also know that I haven't even wandered into the woods near my house. You could stay at home and find as many amazing places!
Take care, have fun, bring a camera, and stay safe,
Ben
While I was travelling the last couple years I needed(wanted?) internet access most everywhere I went. The only real choice(AOL is not a choice) was to go with MSN. I ran Redhat 5.1 on a Toshiba laptop, and travelled all 42 states, Canada, Mexico, and visited all the others online. I worked fine after a little setup help from a knowledgeable fellow at MSN.
I've begun watching the Real World, and have decided that I am going to start dressing and speaking like the cast members... I have plans for a convention next year... also these 'cell phones' look intriguing, but are far too advanced for us... what with people actually answering calls...?
Your cessna is an f-18?
I see what you are saying... that having some training makes a guy dangerous. However, I think that if the head of cosmonaut training thinks he's ready, who am I to say otherwise?
The other thing is that you having 100hrs in a cessna, which is a fair amount, is NOT the same as having 100 hrs in a Flight Safety simulator of an f-18. I would change the "Practically a Fighter Pilot" to "Practically ready for IFR training", or perhaps, "Practiacally ready for twin prop training".
I've tried my darndest, but have yet to make apples out of oranges. Lastly, I think you can get training in a russian military jet trainer for around $20,000 US... If you want I'll get you the link... bcarlson@idiotusers.com
Read This article at cnn.com, and you will see that Dennis Tito has over 700 HOURS of training, and is "practically a professional cosmonaut" in the words of Pyotr Klimuk, head of the cosmonaut-training base.
Ok, what happens here is a table cannot display until it is completely loaded. This means in order to have a banner ad display first, the banner must not be in the same table as the rest of the page.
Use your 'view >>> source' menus on some of these pages to see what I'm talking about. In fact, just view the source on Slashdot here, they do it too!
Another added cost? This is an IT managers' dream! It's so much easier to sell expensive software to the boss, than to convince them that free software is better.
Thanks RedHat!
Now I've got your pesky pricing in my control...
No one. No one at all should use software that is as ridiculously written as the stuff in this article is. No one. The programmers have less brain wave activity than my grandmother. And she's been dead since 1987.
Of course they are GENIUSES compared to the idiot media who apparently think this is a common way of writing e-commerce apps!
Once again, the media takes something which had been a problem/concern - albeit slight - and creates a fiasco over it!!
and if I ever catch any of you using Sanctum, or even thinking of it I'll personally he-bitch man-slap you!
Interestingly enough, you must be mistaken... my brother is a winemaker, and thus does not drink beer (often anyways). Also, he has been divorced from his wife for almost a year, and does not live near her currently.
I am however interested in knowing how you realized it was I who could bear the brunt of your entertaining ridicule with light-hearted banter? You've made my day more pleasant, knowing now that a quick smile will come to my face at every post by an anonymous coward, and that I will think of you and your goat molesting ways.
Cheers lover boy
Does it seem strange to you that HP would simultaneously issue a new version of a product, and let potential buyers know that support is going to be killed in a finite amount of time?
It seems to me this is counter productive... What possible benefit would this have as far as the marketing of this product?
I visited my brother for Christmas, and toured the Ernie Ball factory (his buddy is a salesman there)... this guitar rocks! The Tach actually moves the harder you hit the strings! it has a 'Hurst' style '8-ball' shifter, and shift boot, and has really nice chromed pipes cut into the body. I don't recall what the inlays are, but every detail was fabulous, and very over the top -- Just Spinal Tap's style!
2001-03-21 09:22:32 I'm always wrong, so I'm shooting for later, rather than sooner. I assume that they will have to postpone at least one more time...
Our scientists can work at this as much as they want, but without some form of worldwide consent I assume we wouldn't deploy it. Also, what about the religions which don't believe in tampering with the eco system? will they have a say in all of this?
That's all.