Jobs himself joked about this in the WWDC keynote: "Why should we trust these guys? They're the ones who brought us MobileMe. Not our finest hour." Still, if you look objectively at the record Apple has had a pretty phenomenal decade overall.
I have both a netbook and an iPad, the latter is much better for browsing and watching movies. Instant on, much quicker to navigate to your media, screen feels bigger because you can comfortably hold it up closer to your face. YMMV.
And my goodness there are a lot of Windows PC customers, and neither Google nor Apple have that advantage.
Actually Apple have a good market penetration among people who actually buy smartphones like college students and people with the disposable income to actually buy these things. That's confirmed by studies like this : "74 percent of iPad owners surveyed currently own a Mac, while just 26 percent own a PC." and "iPhone users twice as likely to own a mac"
Most of the PC's out there are corporate desktops or owned by people who aren't interested in the latest in computing, these are not potential smartphone customers.
What a cop out. Religions and churches are all about community and organizing the community often to do charitable works but suddenly when it's the government representing the community it's all about individualism. It's also a very american, you'll find churches and christian political parties everywhere else in the world more than willing to support government programs to combat poverty.
I used this last week, meaning in 2011 not years ago when it was brand new.
In that case : Tenfourfox (community ppc build of Firefox 4) and of course Firefox 3.6 is still available as a universal (x86 & ppc) binary.
I honestly considered putting a ppc linux on the machine. If the battery was not dead I would have. Too much work to fix it though, stupid Apple sealed laptop design.
What laptop is it, the "non user-upgradable" batteries only came in about 2008 IIRC, with the unibody macs ?
I linked to archive.org to show the webpage as it existed at the time, builds for OSX were offered right alongside windows versions at the time on the official webpage for firefox. Firefox finally abandoned PPC builds with version 4 I believe.
It has a lot to say about the technical proficiency of the user, that unix OS has no real useful tools installed. Even locate was missing. Worse yet, there is no official way to get them, maybe the app store fixes that.
No locate ? OSX manpages online says you're wrong. And Macports (formerly Darwinports) has been around since at least 2003 delivering all other goodies you can think of.
No offense but I think time and frustration may have warped your memory.
And implementations have existed way before Apple, as with all ideas which end up being ascribed to Apple.
"I don't know who started it, I don't give a fuck. The one thing I do know is that we did it harder, we did faster, and we definitely did it with more love. You can't take that away from us." - SLC Punk
Totally different subject matter but seemed oddly appropriate.
It should be cheaper. It opens the door for manufacturers to provide a laptop without a power supply, and opens a 3rd party market for separate power bricks at competitive prices.
You think it would be better for companies to ship laptops without power supplies ? Are you the bastard responsible for deciding not to put an usb cable in the box with the printer ?
It was the last PPC OSX, I am not sure what cat that is.
Sounds like Panther, which shipped with the last generation of PPC macs (PPC itself was supported until as recently as Leopard in 2007.)
Installing drivers for stuff is too windowsy for me.
Well , they're not strictly drivers more like what we called "commodities" on the Amiga (run in the background modifying system behavior.) Don't know what you would call that on Windows or Linux.
If single menu bar and mouse focus conflict then single menu bar is a broken concept.
It's a question of preference. Personally I could never stand "focus follows mouse." You could make "single menu bar" and "focus follows mouse" work together by "locking" the menu bar to a program by using a modifier key of some sort eg. by holding the right mouse button à la Amiga. That's pretty un-maclike though.
Since it was ppc I could not get firefox, which meant no vimperator. A browser without vimperator is not a world I want to live in.
There were very definitely PPC builds of Firefox 2 for mac available around that time.
I can understand the attraction of OSX for those who are not good with computers, but it seems like a huge usability step backward for me from my linux machines. I do not hold any notions that what I want is what typical people want, I just don't want my options to go away.
Yeah like I say a question of preference, in the end that's why we have different OS's at all. Good thing they're not all the same. It has little to do with the technical proficiency of the user though since OSX is just a (very nice) layer above a unix OS.
The mouse and keyboard default speeds were set at retard slow
This is true, it's why there have been programs like USB overdrive (and the excellent MagicPrefs for the Magicmouse) and the like on mac for years. The default tracking is painfully slow.
it did not support my Model M very well at all. It did not seem to support my extra mouse buttons
Don't know about the keyboard, but the mouse buttons are basically a driver problem. Again, something like USB Overdrive is needed to support them.
find anything was a pain in the ass, its terminal does not support tabs,
Was this pre-Tiger ? Because Terminal most certainly has tabs, and Spotlight (OSX' desktop search system) has been part of OSX since Tiger.
and I did not bother trying to find out how to enable focus follows mouse which is a must have
Does not play well with the single menu bar. Think about it.
Even worse the terminal does not close when you exit it, you have to use the mouse to click the window close button like an ape.
I get it, most of the time I prefer voice except when I'm working overtime or something then it's nice to call home and see the kids. But why keep something around that's voice only when it's an unnecessary restriction these days and video does have its legitimate uses ?
Something like Skype or Facetime is clearly the future. If you don't want to show video you don't have to but like I said there's other advantages. Like potentially being more secure, or not having your "number" being tied to one outlet like Facetime which rings all your devices and then connects the one where you pick up. Like I said earlier why should I have to go through a whole song and dance when making a phone call to prove who I am for example, I should just be able to sign the connection with a private key and have it be secure.
Yes, what I'm saying is we should replace the old telephone system with something a little more future oriented that can do all the exiting new stuff while also allowing voice-only communication. Instead of doing what we have now and having all this stuff live next to each other and require different clients, different numbers or addresses, etc. I'm talking about changing the technology, not the use case.
Praying on people with fertility problems to peddle your pseudo scientific BS (as per your sig) is below reprehensible. These people have enough problems without having to deal with false hope from the likes of you.
But plain old telephone technology is ancient. Why not replace it with modern technology that uses the internet to deliver its data instead ? You could have a system that's built from the ground up to support video, encryption, etc. but can fallback to plain old voice-only if you want to (or shows an avatar or something.) Just the ability to send data over the same secure connection should be enough of an advantage to do this: no more dictating names or phone numbers, just send the data; no more stupid security questions just send a security token of some kind over the same connection.
I'm not saying it's all bad, but, where is the drive to get someone young interested in computing? To them, using a computer is playing a game, or reading Facebook. Not writing a script for mIRC to scrape text for keywords and have your bot auto respond to people, because that's what used to be fun.. 10+ years ago..
We need something like a cross between Logo and the cool, but relatively simple Lightbot flash game to get kids when they're young. Teach them the basics while still being fun.
While it's true that iPhone + iTunes is a package deal after you buy it you aren't forced to do business with Apple ever again if you don't want to. There's even an iTunes replacement, Copy Trans Manager.
No the way it works is you sync the iPhone to 1 canonical library, although the songs you bought through iTunes can be copied into an unlimited amount of libraries (you own) except DRM'ed songs which can only be played on "authorized computers" which is limited to a maximum of 5. What'll happen with iCloud is that the "canonical store" will be moved into the cloud and all PC's, iPhones and other devices on which you have an account will be able to sync to that. This avoids the problem of syncing to multiple databases by creating a single database which is kept in sync across all your devices.
Plus it automatically restricts how many PCs you can install it on.
Wrong. There's a restriction of 5 PC's you can play your iTunes-bought DRM'ed media on, mostly a moot point these days since DRM was dropped from music on iTunes in 2009.
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Jobs himself joked about this in the WWDC keynote: "Why should we trust these guys? They're the ones who brought us MobileMe. Not our finest hour." Still, if you look objectively at the record Apple has had a pretty phenomenal decade overall.
It's a battle between 2 millionaire douchebags from a privileged background, I'm amazed people would root for one over the other. Screw all of them.
IE was actually the default browser for OS X for a while, people didn't care for it.
I have both a netbook and an iPad, the latter is much better for browsing and watching movies. Instant on, much quicker to navigate to your media, screen feels bigger because you can comfortably hold it up closer to your face. YMMV.
Maybe the editors are in Australia and the previous story was censored there ?
And my goodness there are a lot of Windows PC customers, and neither Google nor Apple have that advantage.
Actually Apple have a good market penetration among people who actually buy smartphones like college students and people with the disposable income to actually buy these things. That's confirmed by studies like this : "74 percent of iPad owners surveyed currently own a Mac, while just 26 percent own a PC." and "iPhone users twice as likely to own a mac"
Most of the PC's out there are corporate desktops or owned by people who aren't interested in the latest in computing, these are not potential smartphone customers.
What a cop out. Religions and churches are all about community and organizing the community often to do charitable works but suddenly when it's the government representing the community it's all about individualism. It's also a very american, you'll find churches and christian political parties everywhere else in the world more than willing to support government programs to combat poverty.
I used this last week, meaning in 2011 not years ago when it was brand new.
In that case : Tenfourfox (community ppc build of Firefox 4) and of course Firefox 3.6 is still available as a universal (x86 & ppc) binary.
I honestly considered putting a ppc linux on the machine. If the battery was not dead I would have. Too much work to fix it though, stupid Apple sealed laptop design.
What laptop is it, the "non user-upgradable" batteries only came in about 2008 IIRC, with the unibody macs ?
I linked to archive.org to show the webpage as it existed at the time, builds for OSX were offered right alongside windows versions at the time on the official webpage for firefox. Firefox finally abandoned PPC builds with version 4 I believe.
There were very definitely PPC builds of Firefox 2 for mac available around that time.
This was last week, not years ago.
Ahem, Firefox 0.8 for OSX (Jun 2004), Firebird 0.6 for OSX (Jun 2003), ...
It has a lot to say about the technical proficiency of the user, that unix OS has no real useful tools installed. Even locate was missing. Worse yet, there is no official way to get them, maybe the app store fixes that.
No locate ? OSX manpages online says you're wrong. And Macports (formerly Darwinports) has been around since at least 2003 delivering all other goodies you can think of.
No offense but I think time and frustration may have warped your memory.
And implementations have existed way before Apple, as with all ideas which end up being ascribed to Apple.
"I don't know who started it, I don't give a fuck. The one thing I do know is that we did it harder, we did faster, and we definitely did it with more love. You can't take that away from us." - SLC Punk
Totally different subject matter but seemed oddly appropriate.
Like a high stakes version of the fortune cookie 'in bed' game.
It should be cheaper. It opens the door for manufacturers to provide a laptop without a power supply, and opens a 3rd party market for separate power bricks at competitive prices.
You think it would be better for companies to ship laptops without power supplies ? Are you the bastard responsible for deciding not to put an usb cable in the box with the printer ?
It was the last PPC OSX, I am not sure what cat that is.
Sounds like Panther, which shipped with the last generation of PPC macs (PPC itself was supported until as recently as Leopard in 2007.)
Installing drivers for stuff is too windowsy for me.
Well , they're not strictly drivers more like what we called "commodities" on the Amiga (run in the background modifying system behavior.) Don't know what you would call that on Windows or Linux.
If single menu bar and mouse focus conflict then single menu bar is a broken concept.
It's a question of preference. Personally I could never stand "focus follows mouse." You could make "single menu bar" and "focus follows mouse" work together by "locking" the menu bar to a program by using a modifier key of some sort eg. by holding the right mouse button à la Amiga. That's pretty un-maclike though.
Since it was ppc I could not get firefox, which meant no vimperator. A browser without vimperator is not a world I want to live in.
There were very definitely PPC builds of Firefox 2 for mac available around that time.
I can understand the attraction of OSX for those who are not good with computers, but it seems like a huge usability step backward for me from my linux machines. I do not hold any notions that what I want is what typical people want, I just don't want my options to go away.
Yeah like I say a question of preference, in the end that's why we have different OS's at all. Good thing they're not all the same. It has little to do with the technical proficiency of the user though since OSX is just a (very nice) layer above a unix OS.
The mouse and keyboard default speeds were set at retard slow
This is true, it's why there have been programs like USB overdrive (and the excellent MagicPrefs for the Magicmouse) and the like on mac for years. The default tracking is painfully slow.
it did not support my Model M very well at all. It did not seem to support my extra mouse buttons
Don't know about the keyboard, but the mouse buttons are basically a driver problem. Again, something like USB Overdrive is needed to support them.
find anything was a pain in the ass, its terminal does not support tabs,
Was this pre-Tiger ? Because Terminal most certainly has tabs, and Spotlight (OSX' desktop search system) has been part of OSX since Tiger.
and I did not bother trying to find out how to enable focus follows mouse which is a must have
Does not play well with the single menu bar. Think about it.
Even worse the terminal does not close when you exit it, you have to use the mouse to click the window close button like an ape.
Cmd+Q.
I get it, most of the time I prefer voice except when I'm working overtime or something then it's nice to call home and see the kids. But why keep something around that's voice only when it's an unnecessary restriction these days and video does have its legitimate uses ?
Something like Skype or Facetime is clearly the future. If you don't want to show video you don't have to but like I said there's other advantages. Like potentially being more secure, or not having your "number" being tied to one outlet like Facetime which rings all your devices and then connects the one where you pick up. Like I said earlier why should I have to go through a whole song and dance when making a phone call to prove who I am for example, I should just be able to sign the connection with a private key and have it be secure.
Yes, what I'm saying is we should replace the old telephone system with something a little more future oriented that can do all the exiting new stuff while also allowing voice-only communication. Instead of doing what we have now and having all this stuff live next to each other and require different clients, different numbers or addresses, etc. I'm talking about changing the technology, not the use case.
Praying on people with fertility problems to peddle your pseudo scientific BS (as per your sig) is below reprehensible. These people have enough problems without having to deal with false hope from the likes of you.
But plain old telephone technology is ancient. Why not replace it with modern technology that uses the internet to deliver its data instead ? You could have a system that's built from the ground up to support video, encryption, etc. but can fallback to plain old voice-only if you want to (or shows an avatar or something.) Just the ability to send data over the same secure connection should be enough of an advantage to do this: no more dictating names or phone numbers, just send the data; no more stupid security questions just send a security token of some kind over the same connection.
I'm not saying it's all bad, but, where is the drive to get someone young interested in computing? To them, using a computer is playing a game, or reading Facebook. Not writing a script for mIRC to scrape text for keywords and have your bot auto respond to people, because that's what used to be fun.. 10+ years ago..
We need something like a cross between Logo and the cool, but relatively simple Lightbot flash game to get kids when they're young. Teach them the basics while still being fun.
While it's true that iPhone + iTunes is a package deal after you buy it you aren't forced to do business with Apple ever again if you don't want to. There's even an iTunes replacement, Copy Trans Manager.
No the way it works is you sync the iPhone to 1 canonical library, although the songs you bought through iTunes can be copied into an unlimited amount of libraries (you own) except DRM'ed songs which can only be played on "authorized computers" which is limited to a maximum of 5. What'll happen with iCloud is that the "canonical store" will be moved into the cloud and all PC's, iPhones and other devices on which you have an account will be able to sync to that. This avoids the problem of syncing to multiple databases by creating a single database which is kept in sync across all your devices.
Android users don't need our asses wiped constantly by a big corporation.
Because Google, Samsung, et al aren't big corporations, right ?
Plus it automatically restricts how many PCs you can install it on.
Wrong. There's a restriction of 5 PC's you can play your iTunes-bought DRM'ed media on, mostly a moot point these days since DRM was dropped from music on iTunes in 2009.