Just like THEY'VE always done. Fuck me, Slashdot gets lamer every day with shit "stories" like this. And I speak as a nominal Mac fan.
No shit. I used to come here in 1998 for interesting stories about relevant tech stories and people. And posts like this story are the reason that after being a Slashdot newbie, then a junkie, I'm now visiting less and less.
I don't know whether Slashdot's audience matured right out of reading it, or if the quality of posts simply decreased. I don't know who "samzenpus" is, but s/he can't pick a story for shit. I would think that there's a lot more interesting stuff out there; which legislators from what states support net neutrality, and who is trying to gut it? Does using a computer too much make me antisocial? Here's an idea for a story - "Will Slashdot Ever Regain it's Relevance?"
So just how does anyone know how it's performance is at this time.
Dude, read that sentence back...I'll wait, so you can sound out the words....since it's in beta at this time, I'm sure lots of people can tell you EXACTLY what the performance of Vista is "at this time". It sucks!
There's not a lot of meat to this article other than "here comes Leopard!"
There's nothing at all in the article on Fomitchev's site that wasn't common knowledge weeks ago. Apple itself announced Leopard's unveiling over a week ago.
Another self-promoting Slashdot submission! Submitted by Fomitchev, about Fmoitchev's blurb on Fomitchev's blog, which links to a short article that is hardly newsworthy.
Someone tell me why I should pony up to be a subscriber again? Even at the low, low price of free, Slashdot's not looking like a great deal.
I mean c'mon. A day's worth of submissions, and you can't do any better than information that's been on the street for over a week, rewritten by a fifth-grader?
If "Leopard" is really what it claims to be, i.e. fast and efficient in sharp contrast to slow and resource hungry Windows Vista, we certainly would see Apple's remarkable market share gain next year."
Maybe the reason fewer people are taking Slashdot seriously is because Slashdot doesn't seem to take itself seriously.
Hire a f-ing editor to check out and rewrite the most egregious but still post-worthy submissions. No, a real editor, not one of your friends.
I'd highly recommend someone purchase an entry level laptop, e.g. an ibook (used is fine) or a used PC but that is ALL they need to succeed at university in any field.
Maybe it's all you need, but your peers in the "Advanced Nonlinear Editing" class are going to be enjoying lots of practice time at home while you spend hundreds of hours in the lab, at school, late at night - because your iBook won't run any of the current NLE tools. Or maybe you're an aspiring photojournalist and need to quickly manipulate 30-50MB image files. A 2001 iBook isn't going to cut it.
Considering that many schools are $5-$10k per year, isn't even $2500.00 a worthwhile investment in a tool that with care will last through most, if not all of your higher education? Why are people here grousing about a $900.00 price point when it's clear that not only is this a great deal on a Mac, it's a very capable PC as well!
Hmmm. Apple sells computers. I can understand why they wouldn't want to get into the messy, messy world of consumer lending, particularly over what are pretty small amounts of money in an absolute sense.
Especially because Apple tried it several times and ways during the 90s through contracted lenders - little more than specialty one-time checks or credit cards that were used once to purchase computer equipment for a pre-arranged price.
They lost money on most of the promotions and pissed off customers each and every time.
Cheap for a uni student? I certainly didn't have that sort of money laying about when I was at university.
At my school, we weren't a rich campus by any means, but an 8MHz Mac Classic and a raster laser printer for $1200.00 was a fucking STEAL when I started college in 1991. Even the Dells with Windows 3.1 were $1000.00 - and you didn't get a printer.
Times change...but the dollar barrier for entry into the "computer in my dorm room" club has remained nearly constant for fifteen years. If you want a computer that will last you through college, mow a lot of lawns between your high school graduation and your freshman orientation. For $1200.00, you can get any number of very nice Macs or PCs. For $1000.00, your choices get fewer, but there are still many nice machines. This new Mac is a lot of machine for $900.00.
For example, I would guess that Michael Jackson and the numerous catholic priests currently doing pediphilia, will have affected maybe a 1-10K ppl total amongst the group.
One to ten thousand people? You're fucking kidding, I hope. Either that, or you're terrible at math.
Sexual abuse and molestation affects everyone in the victim's life, throughout that person's life. I suggest that you think about it for a minute.
If an abuser can screw up someone's life to the point where they can't work after 30 years of wondering why they can't be intimate, wondering why they can't make friends, or that they're subject to sudden, massive depression, or why they feel compelled to wallow in drugs and alcohol...well, that abuser is abusing not only the victim, but every single person, from co-workers to husbands, to family and friends.
Try a few MILLION people affected by sexual abuse and predators in this country. Now, count all of their friends, families, and everyone they deal with each day. That's who is affected by sexual abuse and predators. Until and unless you know someone like this or discover your own conveniently hidden memories, it's probably a tiny blip on your radar - but it does affect someone you know.
OTH, Lay's/Skilling's actions directly affected 10s of thousands. I would even guess that indirectly, they are responsible for causing long term issues in 100s of thousands.
Way off, again. Maybe you heard about our little power problems in California? The ones that bankrupted not just the largest power supplier on the west coast, but nearly took the seventh largest economy in the world with it? Yeah - all Fastow, Skillling, and Lay. I think you're off by at least an order of magnitude when you toss out "thousands" affected - even before Enron declared bankruptcy, their "Free market gone wild" approach had already put California further into a recession.
Just like an abuser, Lay's singleminded pursuit of what he wanted affected every single person in California, and every member of every family with no more savings.
I doubt it was the government, because they want to see him punished as a way of showing that they're "tackling" the problem.
I doubt there's any conspiracy at all. But I take issue with this - I'll bet brother Bush, one of Lay's "oldest and best friends" was on the horn to Snowmass this morning mouthing his condolences to poor, pitiful Mrs. Lay, who will now get to sit on all of Kenny's money - since he hadn't been sentenced, his assets could be freed from government liens, and she'll get to keep the nice houses and money until she leaves it all to their snotty brat kids.
Because of him, hundreds of Enron employees lost their retirement funds, and thousands of investors got screwed.
Try tens of thousands of employees and tens of millions of investors and California/western energy customers. Enron sucked billions of dollars out of California in six weeks. Enron sucked billions out of their own employees' pockets - where did it all go, friend?
No punishment is too egregious for Skilling, Lay, and friends. I predict that Skilling's penalties will be mighty indeed, now that Lay's not there to kick around anymore.
A person who puts all their money into one security isn't investing or saving, they're gambling.
So, when your company handles your 401(k) and your Employee Stock Purchase Program, then urges you by incentives to put more and more of your liquid capitol into the company's sinking stock...because it's such a good deal right now... whose fault is that?
If we're going to treat corporations as people in the eyes of the law, then we should have every right to take punitive action against the "person" who caused all the misery. Enron defrauded stockholders and customers - that means they lied about the actual worth of their stock and assets. Fuck the "should have known better" crowd.
When companies start telling employees to stay out of the ESPP because it's a bad deal, then you can talk about "they should have known better" - but most companies push their own stock on employees like day-old bread, and employees for the most part are content to sit there and lap it up. There's no time or much interest in "individual investing" when companies make it so easy these days.
He grew up in Missouri and he was a son of a preacher. He was one of five children, and he grew this whole company, Enron, from nothing.
From nothing, to nothing. Are you trying to convince us that he was a good confidence artist?
Ken Lay caused misery. The money he helped to steal from all the people of California (with the help of a misguided Public Utilities Commission) could have dampened the state's economic recession - a problem blamed on politicians who had less power than Lay.
Ken Lay caused misery by believing that a nonfeeling, noncaring organization had the power to do good by free market principles. Ask all the people in Houston and elsewhere - people who were encouraged by Lay and Skilling to invest their retirement savings in a legal shell game named Enron stock.
I'm sure he was a nice guy. And I'm sure that he deserved to be held accountable in a more agonizing way - but it's some small solace that he spent his last few minutes on earth knowing that for a hundred years, people in the United States, from Atlanta to San Diego will curse his name.
Confirmation prompts are not security. They're just a CYA so you can tell the user "Well, we warned you".
Maybe for Windows users...but I read and have always read the OS X warning dialogs. So does my wife (on her iMac) and so do my Mac-using folks and relations.
I have found during the informal usage survey we call "life" that many Windows users I know are trained by installers to "Click, Click, watch, click". That is, they click whatever default button happens to spring forward, regardless of whether it says "Delete this File? OK/Cancel" or "Format the Disk?" They've been trained by Microsoft to push buttons in order to accomplish tasks. It's not easily quantifiable, but I don't see this behavior as pervasive when it comes to Mac users.
The Apple store "repaired" it, which turned out to be "took the 128 meg SODIMM out and put a 256 meg in" -- not replacing the bad logic board. It was several months before I noticed that. A month or two later, out of warranty, the system finally died entirely.
First off, did you test the logic board to find out that was the problem?
I think the "fault" here lies as much with you as Apple. Apple repaired and tested your machine and sent it back to you. You declined to immediately review what they did to your computer and had no problems during the 90-day after service parts and labor warranty (which supercedes the original product warranty) and you apparently didn't bother to ask them to appeal their decision when they told you how much it'd be to repair your machine.
So, how is this Apple's fault again? Having worked with the group that makes warranty exceptions, I can tell you right now that a kind word and a little persistence would have bagged you a free repair if you'd simply asked, especially if you had your first repair so close to the end of the original warranty. Apple does have some mercy - and like with any company, you won't get it from front line agents. You actually have to ask them to make an exception.
I was always under the impression that SSE and subsequent revisions were more of a response to similar technologies developed previously by AMD (3dNOW!) and more robustly by Motorola (AltiVec). The timelines for development on AltiVec/SSE in particular are a little fuzzy, but it seems as though SSE was a response to competitive innovation rather than an Intel idea.
[1] Rumor was, Microsoft stole some QuickTime source code and used it in WMP; instead of suing, Bill Gates and Gil Amelio reached an agreement that involved MS paying Apple an undisclosed wad of cash, publicly investing in non-voting Apple stock, publicly committing to continuing development of Office for Mac, and some other stuff.
Other than the part about Bill and Gil sitting around having coffee and hashing out the details, you're almost right!
The details will never be widely known, but Apple let Microsoft off the hook very gently, compared to what could have happened - from the scuttlebutt at the time, MS was really over a barrel with the QuickTime lawsuit. It also ushered in a new era of "let's not fight" between the two companies, who compete, but have stayed away from suing each other for nearly ten years now.
You really don't understand the consumerist society, do you? People buy new stuff even when the old stuff works just fine.
But when you consider all the crud that the typical Windows system is infested with over the course of its "consumerist" lifetime, it would be replacement time after three years regardless of whether the buyer is in touch with their inner fashion god or not.
Given Apple's history with outsourced phone groups (burned by SEI's horrible quality and retention in the mid-90s), I sincerely doubt it.
Apple probably saw that this approach wouldn't meet their quality goals. That's not a slam on Indians or outsourcing, but AppleCare and Apple in general is extremely sensitive to quality and customer satisfaction. 1995-1997 is still very fresh in their minds.
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As for speed, 10.4 seems faster since apple has added more acceleration using the video card, and more caching. It also uses a lot more ram.
RAM is cheap. Time isn't. That's why we bought so many G5s with eight 1GB DIMMs for our Photoshop lab.
they are able to pick a few configurations that are identical to perfectly good PCs out there and develop for those machines.
Not PERFECTLY. There is the manufacturer imprint on the TPM chip, after all....
Just like THEY'VE always done. Fuck me, Slashdot gets lamer every day with shit "stories" like this. And I speak as a nominal Mac fan.
No shit. I used to come here in 1998 for interesting stories about relevant tech stories and people. And posts like this story are the reason that after being a Slashdot newbie, then a junkie, I'm now visiting less and less.
I don't know whether Slashdot's audience matured right out of reading it, or if the quality of posts simply decreased. I don't know who "samzenpus" is, but s/he can't pick a story for shit. I would think that there's a lot more interesting stuff out there; which legislators from what states support net neutrality, and who is trying to gut it? Does using a computer too much make me antisocial? Here's an idea for a story - "Will Slashdot Ever Regain it's Relevance?"
So just how does anyone know how it's performance is at this time.
...since it's in beta at this time, I'm sure lots of people can tell you EXACTLY what the performance of Vista is "at this time". It sucks!
Dude, read that sentence back...I'll wait, so you can sound out the words.
There's not a lot of meat to this article other than "here comes Leopard!"
There's nothing at all in the article on Fomitchev's site that wasn't common knowledge weeks ago. Apple itself announced Leopard's unveiling over a week ago.
Another self-promoting Slashdot submission! Submitted by Fomitchev, about Fmoitchev's blurb on Fomitchev's blog, which links to a short article that is hardly newsworthy.
Someone tell me why I should pony up to be a subscriber again? Even at the low, low price of free, Slashdot's not looking like a great deal.
I mean c'mon. A day's worth of submissions, and you can't do any better than information that's been on the street for over a week, rewritten by a fifth-grader?
If "Leopard" is really what it claims to be, i.e. fast and efficient in sharp contrast to slow and resource hungry Windows Vista, we certainly would see Apple's remarkable market share gain next year."
Maybe the reason fewer people are taking Slashdot seriously is because Slashdot doesn't seem to take itself seriously.
Hire a f-ing editor to check out and rewrite the most egregious but still post-worthy submissions. No, a real editor, not one of your friends.
I'd highly recommend someone purchase an entry level laptop, e.g. an ibook (used is fine) or a used PC but that is ALL they need to succeed at university in any field.
Maybe it's all you need, but your peers in the "Advanced Nonlinear Editing" class are going to be enjoying lots of practice time at home while you spend hundreds of hours in the lab, at school, late at night - because your iBook won't run any of the current NLE tools. Or maybe you're an aspiring photojournalist and need to quickly manipulate 30-50MB image files. A 2001 iBook isn't going to cut it.
Considering that many schools are $5-$10k per year, isn't even $2500.00 a worthwhile investment in a tool that with care will last through most, if not all of your higher education? Why are people here grousing about a $900.00 price point when it's clear that not only is this a great deal on a Mac, it's a very capable PC as well!
Hmmm. Apple sells computers. I can understand why they wouldn't want to get into the messy, messy world of consumer lending, particularly over what are pretty small amounts of money in an absolute sense.
Especially because Apple tried it several times and ways during the 90s through contracted lenders - little more than specialty one-time checks or credit cards that were used once to purchase computer equipment for a pre-arranged price.
They lost money on most of the promotions and pissed off customers each and every time.
Cheap for a uni student? I certainly didn't have that sort of money laying about when I was at university.
At my school, we weren't a rich campus by any means, but an 8MHz Mac Classic and a raster laser printer for $1200.00 was a fucking STEAL when I started college in 1991. Even the Dells with Windows 3.1 were $1000.00 - and you didn't get a printer.
Times change...but the dollar barrier for entry into the "computer in my dorm room" club has remained nearly constant for fifteen years. If you want a computer that will last you through college, mow a lot of lawns between your high school graduation and your freshman orientation. For $1200.00, you can get any number of very nice Macs or PCs. For $1000.00, your choices get fewer, but there are still many nice machines. This new Mac is a lot of machine for $900.00.
For example, I would guess that Michael Jackson and the numerous catholic priests currently doing pediphilia, will have affected maybe a 1-10K ppl total amongst the group.
One to ten thousand people? You're fucking kidding, I hope. Either that, or you're terrible at math.
Sexual abuse and molestation affects everyone in the victim's life, throughout that person's life. I suggest that you think about it for a minute.
If an abuser can screw up someone's life to the point where they can't work after 30 years of wondering why they can't be intimate, wondering why they can't make friends, or that they're subject to sudden, massive depression, or why they feel compelled to wallow in drugs and alcohol...well, that abuser is abusing not only the victim, but every single person, from co-workers to husbands, to family and friends.
Try a few MILLION people affected by sexual abuse and predators in this country. Now, count all of their friends, families, and everyone they deal with each day. That's who is affected by sexual abuse and predators. Until and unless you know someone like this or discover your own conveniently hidden memories, it's probably a tiny blip on your radar - but it does affect someone you know.
OTH, Lay's/Skilling's actions directly affected 10s of thousands. I would even guess that indirectly, they are responsible for causing long term issues in 100s of thousands.
Way off, again. Maybe you heard about our little power problems in California? The ones that bankrupted not just the largest power supplier on the west coast, but nearly took the seventh largest economy in the world with it? Yeah - all Fastow, Skillling, and Lay. I think you're off by at least an order of magnitude when you toss out "thousands" affected - even before Enron declared bankruptcy, their "Free market gone wild" approach had already put California further into a recession.
Just like an abuser, Lay's singleminded pursuit of what he wanted affected every single person in California, and every member of every family with no more savings.
I doubt it was the government, because they want to see him punished as a way of showing that they're "tackling" the problem.
I doubt there's any conspiracy at all. But I take issue with this - I'll bet brother Bush, one of Lay's "oldest and best friends" was on the horn to Snowmass this morning mouthing his condolences to poor, pitiful Mrs. Lay, who will now get to sit on all of Kenny's money - since he hadn't been sentenced, his assets could be freed from government liens, and she'll get to keep the nice houses and money until she leaves it all to their snotty brat kids.
Because of him, hundreds of Enron employees lost their retirement funds, and thousands of investors got screwed.
Try tens of thousands of employees and tens of millions of investors and California/western energy customers. Enron sucked billions of dollars out of California in six weeks. Enron sucked billions out of their own employees' pockets - where did it all go, friend?
No punishment is too egregious for Skilling, Lay, and friends. I predict that Skilling's penalties will be mighty indeed, now that Lay's not there to kick around anymore.
A person who puts all their money into one security isn't investing or saving, they're gambling.
So, when your company handles your 401(k) and your Employee Stock Purchase Program, then urges you by incentives to put more and more of your liquid capitol into the company's sinking stock...because it's such a good deal right now... whose fault is that?
If we're going to treat corporations as people in the eyes of the law, then we should have every right to take punitive action against the "person" who caused all the misery. Enron defrauded stockholders and customers - that means they lied about the actual worth of their stock and assets. Fuck the "should have known better" crowd.
When companies start telling employees to stay out of the ESPP because it's a bad deal, then you can talk about "they should have known better" - but most companies push their own stock on employees like day-old bread, and employees for the most part are content to sit there and lap it up. There's no time or much interest in "individual investing" when companies make it so easy these days.
He grew up in Missouri and he was a son of a preacher. He was one of five children, and he grew this whole company, Enron, from nothing.
From nothing, to nothing. Are you trying to convince us that he was a good confidence artist?
Ken Lay caused misery. The money he helped to steal from all the people of California (with the help of a misguided Public Utilities Commission) could have dampened the state's economic recession - a problem blamed on politicians who had less power than Lay.
Ken Lay caused misery by believing that a nonfeeling, noncaring organization had the power to do good by free market principles. Ask all the people in Houston and elsewhere - people who were encouraged by Lay and Skilling to invest their retirement savings in a legal shell game named Enron stock.
I'm sure he was a nice guy. And I'm sure that he deserved to be held accountable in a more agonizing way - but it's some small solace that he spent his last few minutes on earth knowing that for a hundred years, people in the United States, from Atlanta to San Diego will curse his name.
Confirmation prompts are not security. They're just a CYA so you can tell the user "Well, we warned you".
Maybe for Windows users...but I read and have always read the OS X warning dialogs. So does my wife (on her iMac) and so do my Mac-using folks and relations.
I have found during the informal usage survey we call "life" that many Windows users I know are trained by installers to "Click, Click, watch, click". That is, they click whatever default button happens to spring forward, regardless of whether it says "Delete this File? OK/Cancel" or "Format the Disk?" They've been trained by Microsoft to push buttons in order to accomplish tasks. It's not easily quantifiable, but I don't see this behavior as pervasive when it comes to Mac users.
The Apple store "repaired" it, which turned out to be "took the 128 meg SODIMM out and put a 256 meg in" -- not replacing the bad logic board. It was several months before I noticed that. A month or two later, out of warranty, the system finally died entirely.
First off, did you test the logic board to find out that was the problem?
I think the "fault" here lies as much with you as Apple. Apple repaired and tested your machine and sent it back to you. You declined to immediately review what they did to your computer and had no problems during the 90-day after service parts and labor warranty (which supercedes the original product warranty) and you apparently didn't bother to ask them to appeal their decision when they told you how much it'd be to repair your machine.
So, how is this Apple's fault again? Having worked with the group that makes warranty exceptions, I can tell you right now that a kind word and a little persistence would have bagged you a free repair if you'd simply asked, especially if you had your first repair so close to the end of the original warranty. Apple does have some mercy - and like with any company, you won't get it from front line agents. You actually have to ask them to make an exception.
If the internet consists of tubes, why not just add some tubes for personal use, or tubes for p0rn..! Or something like that... err.. (??)
C'mon man! Get with it. It's all ball bearings these days. Now lube up that Fetzer valve with a little 3-in-1 oil so's the packets get through.
$1 salary ... plus tens of millions in backdated stock options. How altruistic.
You forgot about the airplane.
Just sayin'.
SSE was when intel "got it right".
I was always under the impression that SSE and subsequent revisions were more of a response to similar technologies developed previously by AMD (3dNOW!) and more robustly by Motorola (AltiVec). The timelines for development on AltiVec/SSE in particular are a little fuzzy, but it seems as though SSE was a response to competitive innovation rather than an Intel idea.
-- Connecticut Residents Against Nonconsensual Comparisons
C.R.A.N.C.?
So, you're all a bunch of cranks?
[1] Rumor was, Microsoft stole some QuickTime source code and used it in WMP; instead of suing, Bill Gates and Gil Amelio reached an agreement that involved MS paying Apple an undisclosed wad of cash, publicly investing in non-voting Apple stock, publicly committing to continuing development of Office for Mac, and some other stuff.
Other than the part about Bill and Gil sitting around having coffee and hashing out the details, you're almost right!
The details will never be widely known, but Apple let Microsoft off the hook very gently, compared to what could have happened - from the scuttlebutt at the time, MS was really over a barrel with the QuickTime lawsuit. It also ushered in a new era of "let's not fight" between the two companies, who compete, but have stayed away from suing each other for nearly ten years now.
And does this mean that if you drink straight Kahlua, that you'll suffer no cirrhosis?
You really don't understand the consumerist society, do you? People buy new stuff even when the old stuff works just fine.
But when you consider all the crud that the typical Windows system is infested with over the course of its "consumerist" lifetime, it would be replacement time after three years regardless of whether the buyer is in touch with their inner fashion god or not.
Self-igniting batteries are the path to success in business. Who would have guessed?
They didn't help Apple...
I guess a cheaper country was found
Given Apple's history with outsourced phone groups (burned by SEI's horrible quality and retention in the mid-90s), I sincerely doubt it.
Apple probably saw that this approach wouldn't meet their quality goals. That's not a slam on Indians or outsourcing, but AppleCare and Apple in general is extremely sensitive to quality and customer satisfaction. 1995-1997 is still very fresh in their minds.