... it traverses the list nd then ends when itself is set to null, great, now we don't know where that last node is anymore. oh, and s is still pointing to the b eginning of list so you screwed the ehole list now by setting it's ss param to x. maybe this would work:
yeah, that dialog box is great, except on my setup I can only use it with the non-hardware-accelerated driver, with the binary driver (ATI card) i cannot use it, for some reason I have to use ATI's setup program, which sucks. In the end, managed to sort of getting it to work, but stupid X forgot my setup on every reboot (yes, I did make sure to run the crappy ATI setup program as root so it could update x.conf). So, the UI is there, now they just have to make it work, or at least work on more setups.
Hey, maybe it works better on the latest dists (am still on ubuntu 9.4). But dual screen have been around for, god, how many years??
There's no point in trying to hide any problems Linux has, the OS has a lot going for it but thee's still some rough edges, once they sorted it'll be great, but until then, we should not try to cover it up with kneejerk reactions that all critisism is MS-propaganda
oh, I sure their webapps will work without a network connection, using Google gears, after all, you can use google mail and google docs offline right now with gears, now OTHER peoples webapps might not work offline, at least not until they added gears functionality to it
Not true, my mother thinks the same, she's swedish. My gf's british parents thought the same (until I reeducated them - they still insists on ie because they can run all their weird flashgames and what not in ie - yes their computer crawls with viruses and trojans, one feels slightly dirty after using it)
I think it more has to do with being the first ESA austronaut than a cosmonaut from the national russian space agency than a question if russia is european or not.
sun wanted themselves to control the standard, just ask IBM what they thought of the java community process. They opensourced in in 2006 (2007?) after YEARS of lobbying. MS gave c# and the clr to ECMA from day one.
considering that according to ECMA MS must grant you a RAND licence to their patents, they promised to provide any implementer RAND-Z licence with their community promise. THe things that are not covered would be the parts relevant to windows, which are being split from Mono, so in case of problems they can be left behind.
Funny noone was jumping around shouting about patents back in the day when FSF started working on their own Free version of Java (aka Claspath).
What reason is there to believe that applications written in C# are at a bigger risk of that than applications written in Python?
If you don't know the answer to this question without having to ask, you probably just shouldn't be making a fool of yourself by trying to participate in this discussion.
Now shh, the grownups are talking.
no please tell, as i see this everywhere here. people seem to think c# is at bigger risk than any other language. nothing I've seen in c# itself is in anyway unique to the language, it's rather more like MS picke their favourite features from other language, no patnets there, so the patents are in the libs, most likely, but not only, in the win related libs, these doesn't really affect mono apps designed to run on linux.
The rest of linux is just as likely to infringe on patents as mono libs, the devil is in the code written, not in the actual langage used
cause writing bigger apps in c or c++ is hard work compared to doing it in c# or java. What c# has over java is better GTK binding and, imho, far nicer features. Also, mono started when java still was closed source. Maybe python with QT binding or just c++ with QT is ok for larger stuff, so I heard, but hey, choice is good.
yes, if you infringe on any other MS patents than those relating to their.NET implementation they might go after you, but what's completely irrelevant is in what language you use to infringe the patent in! if you do it in c, java or whatever, they STILL might go after you.
yeah, but for some reason people don't seem to mind using smb on their computer despite it being full of MS patents and being developed *without* the blessing on MS
crist sake, what crimes? sending starving children into the mines? maybe you should read up about IBM (the inventor of FUD) did back in the days and good ol' AT&T. Also, compare MS to some of the companies in the oil or diamond mining business and those in arms and you see som companies that commit 'crimes against humanity'.
care to elaborate? the patents would be in the code in the libs, not with the actual language as nice as it is, there's tons of prior art to as far as I know all of c# features. and if the patents are in the algorithms used, then it doesn't matter what language they're written in.
but c# is and open standard of a language, that's al lit is. If there are any patent problem with any of the libs then we develop around them. Just because the libs are written in c# does not make it any worse.
Your java, python, c or c++ code might infringe JUST AS BADLY on various patents and you don't see people running around in circles with flapping arms because of that.
I've seen them for android as well, tens, if not more! it's even a web page going through the 10 best tip calculators for iphone (http://www.everythingicafe.com/news/software/iphone-tip-calculator-smackdown-20080731827/) Personally I cannot see any use of such an app. What is this about? is it a US thing? (as I understand that tipping is a bit of a bigger business than europe and hence far more advanced formulas are used, derivates, fourier transformations etc). What happened with doing a simple calc in your head and give 10-12% (if you think you had good service???
But the thing is that they *used* to be able to create huge buzz around their launches. I remeber the WIn95 and 98 launches and they were big events with people queueing all nigt in order to get an early copy. I was a OS/2 user back then and I remember I watched theise lauches with a mixture of envy, grief and awe, thinking, "no way we gonna win this one". I was unfortunately right, hey ho.
However, nowadays MS seems to have lost their cool, Don't excpect them to dissapear anytime soon, but they will probably not be in as dominate position as they were back in the days.
But they DID want those features!. MS realised users didn't find the functionality when they asked for functionality that was already in Office since long ago. The Ribbon was their take on trying to solve that, and personally I think they are on the right track,
Anyway, this whole discussion seems bit unneccessary since I cannot find anywhere on mozilla.org where they say they will use the ribbon, they do however give some examples of how they think future firefox will look and whgile it's not the ribbon, it quite pretty, although one can see they looked quite a lot at Chrome and ie 7/8:
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... it traverses the list nd then ends when itself is set to null, great, now we don't know where that last node is anymore.
oh, and s is still pointing to the b eginning of list so you screwed the ehole list now by setting it's ss param to x.
maybe this would work:
void concat(s, x)
{
var prev;
for(ss=s->ss, prev=s; ss; prev=ss, ss=ss->ss) ;
prev->ss = x;
}
yeah, that dialog box is great, except on my setup I can only use it with the non-hardware-accelerated driver, with the binary driver (ATI card) i cannot use it, for some reason I have to use ATI's setup program, which sucks.
In the end, managed to sort of getting it to work, but stupid X forgot my setup on every reboot (yes, I did make sure to run the crappy ATI setup program as root so it could update x.conf). So, the UI is there, now they just have to make it work, or at least work on more setups.
Hey, maybe it works better on the latest dists (am still on ubuntu 9.4). But dual screen have been around for, god, how many years??
There's no point in trying to hide any problems Linux has, the OS has a lot going for it but thee's still some rough edges, once they sorted it'll be great, but until then, we should not try to cover it up with kneejerk reactions that all critisism is MS-propaganda
oh, I sure their webapps will work without a network connection, using Google gears, after all, you can use google mail and google docs offline right now with gears, now OTHER peoples webapps might not work offline, at least not until they added gears functionality to it
Beck? moderate? Is this Mr Buckle-up-america-cause-we're-going-down Beck or someone else?
...not to be forgotten is Roxette's "Crash, Boom, Bang" or Prodigy's "Firestarter"
Not true, my mother thinks the same, she's swedish. My gf's british parents thought the same (until I reeducated them - they still insists on ie because they can run all their weird flashgames and what not in ie - yes their computer crawls with viruses and trojans, one feels slightly dirty after using it)
...sort of a prophecy of things to come...
freudian slip perhaps? ;-)
I think it more has to do with being the first ESA austronaut than a cosmonaut from the national russian space agency than a question if russia is european or not.
it's the spirit that count!!! ;-)
sun wanted themselves to control the standard, just ask IBM what they thought of the java community process. They opensourced in in 2006 (2007?) after YEARS of lobbying. MS gave c# and the clr to ECMA from day one.
considering that according to ECMA MS must grant you a RAND licence to their patents, they promised to provide any implementer RAND-Z licence with their community promise. THe things that are not covered would be the parts relevant to windows, which are being split from Mono, so in case of problems they can be left behind.
Funny noone was jumping around shouting about patents back in the day when FSF started working on their own Free version of Java (aka Claspath).
What reason is there to believe that applications written in C# are at a bigger risk of that than applications written in Python?
If you don't know the answer to this question without having to ask, you probably just shouldn't be making a fool of yourself by trying to participate in this discussion.
Now shh, the grownups are talking.
no please tell, as i see this everywhere here. people seem to think c# is at bigger risk than any other language. nothing I've seen in c# itself is in anyway unique to the language, it's rather more like MS picke their favourite features from other language, no patnets there, so the patents are in the libs, most likely, but not only, in the win related libs, these doesn't really affect mono apps designed to run on linux.
The rest of linux is just as likely to infringe on patents as mono libs, the devil is in the code written, not in the actual langage used
cause writing bigger apps in c or c++ is hard work compared to doing it in c# or java.
What c# has over java is better GTK binding and, imho, far nicer features. Also, mono started when java still was closed source.
Maybe python with QT binding or just c++ with QT is ok for larger stuff, so I heard, but hey, choice is good.
yes, if you infringe on any other MS patents than those relating to their .NET implementation they might go after you, but what's completely irrelevant is in what language you use to infringe the patent in! if you do it in c, java or whatever, they STILL might go after you.
yeah, but for some reason people don't seem to mind using smb on their computer despite it being full of MS patents and being developed *without* the blessing on MS
not sure about c, but, a quick googling give you this, a MS patent regarding virtual constructors in c++, who'd thought?!
crist sake, what crimes? sending starving children into the mines? maybe you should read up about IBM (the inventor of FUD) did back in the days and good ol' AT&T.
Also, compare MS to some of the companies in the oil or diamond mining business and those in arms and you see som companies that commit 'crimes against humanity'.
care to elaborate?
the patents would be in the code in the libs, not with the actual language as nice as it is, there's tons of prior art to as far as I know all of c# features.
and if the patents are in the algorithms used, then it doesn't matter what language they're written in.
but c# is and open standard of a language, that's al lit is. If there are any patent problem with any of the libs then we develop around them. Just because the libs are written in c# does not make it any worse.
Your java, python, c or c++ code might infringe JUST AS BADLY on various patents and you don't see people running around in circles with flapping arms because of that.
sweet or salty?? (popcorn, that is)
8 quid?? Where on earth do you find jeans for 8 quid in the UK???
I've seen them for android as well, tens, if not more!
it's even a web page going through the 10 best tip calculators for iphone (http://www.everythingicafe.com/news/software/iphone-tip-calculator-smackdown-20080731827/)
Personally I cannot see any use of such an app. What is this about? is it a US thing? (as I understand that tipping is a bit of a bigger business than europe and hence far more advanced formulas are used, derivates, fourier transformations etc).
What happened with doing a simple calc in your head and give 10-12% (if you think you had good service???
But the thing is that they *used* to be able to create huge buzz around their launches. I remeber the WIn95 and 98 launches and they were big events with people queueing all nigt in order to get an early copy. I was a OS/2 user back then and I remember I watched theise lauches with a mixture of envy, grief and awe, thinking, "no way we gonna win this one". I was unfortunately right, hey ho.
However, nowadays MS seems to have lost their cool, Don't excpect them to dissapear anytime soon, but they will probably not be in as dominate position as they were back in the days.
But they DID want those features!. MS realised users didn't find the functionality when they asked for functionality that was already in Office since long ago. The Ribbon was their take on trying to solve that, and personally I think they are on the right track,
Anyway, this whole discussion seems bit unneccessary since I cannot find anywhere on mozilla.org where they say they will use the ribbon, they do however give some examples of how they think future firefox will look and whgile it's not the ribbon, it quite pretty, although one can see they looked quite a lot at Chrome and ie 7/8:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Sprints/Windows_Theme_Revamp/Direction_and_Feedback