Actually, there is not all that much difference between RC5 running on Celeron/PPC of the same clock speed under linux, the PPC is about 200K/Key/s faster, athough the OGR stuff the PPC arch seems to hit the spot, (Written from my Celeron, talking about it and my iBook)
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
If i am not mistaken i believe that methane is actually pretty much odorless, when we use it for gas to homes and the like we add chemicals so that we can smell it, and not die (in AU at least)
btw, does anyone know of a site that will point out the best hardware for a dual Linux / Windows box, for gaming and work purposes?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
I was under the impression that the waste radioactive material from a nuke detonation was actually reasonably small, and sufficient amount of material remains within about 400m of the detonation site, but that the problems really stem from the shockwave, the EMP generated, and the other high speed particles (X, Gamma)-rays generatd?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Please dont take me as a troll but...
There are already many programs that do what the components of Mozilla do, from good ol pine for mail, to jaim for integrated instant messaging, to vi for HTML editing, and any of hundreds of other apps at friendly freshmeat.net.
But I guess here's where some of the beauty of open source come in. Browsers like galeon can just take gecko and repackage to make my dream browser, fast, small, and feature free. If you haven't seen in it action yet, go here.
On the galeon web site i found the following text
"It requires Gnome and MOZILLA M17.", now i see where you are coming from, and to tell the truth i agree with you, but i am just to lazy to do anything about it. (I bolded it to bring out the whole point of this ramble)
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
You are correct. The difference is that the Speedstep PIII will have two speed settings. 500 Mhz @1.1v while on AC power and 300 Mhz at 1.0v while on battery power.
The Crusoe can dynamically change it's clock speed and power consumption i.e. if you are playing solitare, there is not much demand for power from the procesor so the clock speed will be reduced.
That means if the benchmarks mentioned here a while back when the new picturebooks were announced, that found a crusoe 600MHz to run at between a P3 400 and P3 600. That makes the P3 500 that slows down to 300MHz when on battery very very LAME, not really that nice IMNSHO!
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Dont the current reverse engineering laws allow you to reverse engineer a product so that you can make/write one that is compatable? (I am probably Waaaaaay off here)
I do not approve of a world where a company has the ability to dictate what it is that you can and can not do with a product. By this I especially refer to the MPAA vs DeCSS saga. I worry most about corporations being able to have such a strangle hold on things that if you live in the wrong market demographic no device/film/content/xyz for you.
This is why i like OSS so much, there is no reason why another program can not read/edit another programs File Format (both OSS). There is the security aspect with OSS, in that regardless of what happens in the future there is (or will probably) be some means of seeing the actual source and fixing the problem.
The "Movieland" chain of video stores in Adelaide, Australia - where i live now also have a clause in there agreement when you get a card to use them, that says that they have the right to sell your information -to anyone. Is it just me or do most of these knee-jerk recation laws benefit anyone bar Corporations? What rights does a consumer have? How can we get these? Is there any thing we can do?
Also i ask as a question which is more illegal:
If a company A, releases a device D (like the CueCat), and A says that they are not collecting information, that the device D has no way of identifying someone &tc, if a person P, reverse engineers D, does only P get into trouble, is there no accountablility for A, which lied to the public?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Organic foods also can be more dangerous because they use manure as a fertilizer for them, and that can lead to E.coli and whatnot infecting your food.
In Australia there is a company that is/was offering to do a soil test for the quantity/quality of the natural nutrients and trace elements, they would then be able to tell you and sell you a mix of certain crushed rocks, that contained the nessesary trace elements that the property was deficient in.
When we had a fruit block we DID use manure on our organic property (my parents went orgainc to get more money when they sold the place, takes approx 5 years to achive this goal), we used chicken sh*t, that had been "rotting" for ages so that it was safe to put out on the block, I cant see how our apricot trees got e-coli infected, and our yeild's and soil quality increased too!
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Could not the US Postal Service, patent the idea of "Delivering Mail", in any form?
Mmmm gives me an idea, i let you all know what it is when i 0wn j00z:)
This was an attempt to be funny, did it work?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
The Crusoe chip may not be using any new ideas but it does take things farther than anyone else has tried.
the PowerPC was to be a risc chip that could emulate cisc. crusoe is a riscish chip that emulates the x86 instruction set.
Actually if i remember correctly, the crusoe is a
VLIW core, source:DITZEL.PDF pg10, when the chip was first released.
The Document may be here somewhere
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Correct me if i am wrong, the only time that i saw a VIAO, one of the baby little ones, if i am not mistaken it had a P-266MMX (Not pII), but i may be mistaken. So i fail to see (based on the above), how much of a difference a 200MMX would make?
Malcolm
The "Information wants to be free" catch cry has been annoying me for a while. I too want information to be free, i agree that MP3s on napster is a form of stealing. I want to know how do we change the outlook on d/l and distributing anything from software to books.
But how does one change the view of not only the average Internet user at home, but also the company executives that it is possible to release certain information (in some manner) and make money on it? Things like the napster controversy will only set back the availability of information being cheap and readily available.
I am refering to the fact that corperations have got such a strangle hold in file formats and the like (FhG's claim taht it is impossible to write an MP3 encoder/decoder with out infringing of their patents), do such patents not exists for MPEG-4? Or Did the ppl who set it up, and designed the "STANDARD" screw up, enableing us to have a way in which we can write an OPEN (beer/speech) MPEG-4 codec?
(OFFTOPIC)I know that this is offtopic and all, but, thanx for the response, but when i tried.ogg format for my music, lame would not encode a name into the track, winamp would not let me change this name, and when i used my machine, the.oggs appeared to get noticeably worse in quality, (i did a few tests). Whereas bladeenc did not have similar issues. I really should switch from win32 to Linux or BSD for my desktop, and leave the mac for word processing, but i really dont know which to use: BSD/Linux & which distro. Oh well i spose i could try both and go from there.(/OFFTOPIC)
I think that this will be great, but won't there be problems with some ports not being available to MacOSX because it uses that Aqua thing (i intend on using MacOSX on my iBook, because i believe that it will be more stable and use the power more efficiently, than the currently available Linux;s) This is not to bag the Linux distros that are currently avail, after all Apple do have ALL the cards with regard to info about the hardware.
IMHO, it's ridiculous that there are no courses in Universities that relate to the history of couputing
What i think is even more reprohensable is that at The University of South Australia (Mawson Lakes Campus [formerly the Levels]), they are moveing away from unix alot. Last year they installed a STUPID MS Exchange E-Mail farm, and are moving to Java for the teaching language (no C any more).[This is not a bag on Java]
And just the other day i was reading a Lecurers notes that he hands out to students on unix (for part of the subject that fortunately required UNIX), and one of the many, but in my opinion the worst mistake that was made was that he stated that the verion of unix that students were allowed to use was the tcsh version. I mean it is a frigging SHELL not a version! *shudder*
The problems with mobiles (in AU at least) from my point of view is that the older models, just dissapear from the market when a new (and better model appears). What this means for me at least is that i can not afford the $700AU (for a DECENT phone). So i just wont upgrade / buy a new one unless my current one breaks.
I believe that the pricing Structure and the way that old phones dont get discouted is the reason why ppl dont upgrade phones.
The only reason they keep their main line CISC is because the demands placed on them by Microsoft for backward compatability.
Would not the fact that WindowsCE runs on it enable a shift so to speak in the processors? I know that Itanium is a Very Long Something Or-other. And that RISC is away from this, but could not something like this enable the desktop to start moving avay from IA32?
Not the birds or the fog. But if this is takn up by a lot of ppl/companies, will we not see bandwidth pollution similar to what is/happening with devices that operate in the 3G spectrum?
The portable (not mobile) phones, the radio lan cards that are made, the airport (from apple)(yeah bastratdised radio lan cards), [perhaps the previous could be summed up as 802.11].??
Why not? Anyone can put together a distribution. MS sure as heck could spare a few score people to pull together MSLinux. Yeah, they'd have to live with the restrictions the GPL imposes... so what? RedHat, Caldrea, and the like seem to be making a go of it.
So they have to make it freely available... and your point would be? They already overcharge on their OS sales by around 500%. So, let's say $2 to press a CD, $3 for packaging and simple manuals, and, oh, $100 for a 5-incident support contract. Sound familiar? MS already makes a habit out of charging for support; this would allow them to really turn it into a profit center.
Actually the only thing that they would really need to do is release a disk containing the GPL'd sowftare, that can be redistrubuted. Any MS Linux2050 (asumeing that it get done) could be as propriatry as they want, all they have to do is include any binaries / librarys that are linked to stuff that does NOT REQUIRE the GPL to be viriied down through any software linking to it, and viawalla(?sp?) we can have MS-XWindows2050, includes whatever they want, and all they need include is a freely distibutable disk of ALL of the GPL stuff they used.
I will be interested to see if they can (do) pull of a decent office suite for linux, hell even IE, i mean IE 5.0 on the Mac is sweet, as far as browsers go, and more stable than the windows one. But i think MS's biggest problem is not so much that they write commercial sowftare, but they WAY they write and market it?
Well, actually, pure alcohol is pretty much tasteless
Ummm actually, the dehdrating effect that PURE alcohol has kind of makes up for this, personally i'd say that alcohol (PURE) is kinda dry/bitter all rolled into one.
MGR: Umm boss this linux thingy is giving Dell a bit of hard time, you should see the crap they are copping on slashdot.
IBM: Mmmm better drop all support for linux, gemme the spin doctors on the fone NOW!
Seriously i would have to say that i hope that this linux support is more than just token, IMNSHO, When IBM first announced a RH (i know RH is not linux, but..) certified HW in the form of the Thinkpad laptop, the winmodem was not even replaced with a real modem. I also hope that if they are not giving a price discount if you choose linux, that they should at least buy say the offficial RH or DEB dist from that organisation, so that some $$$$'s make it back to the Open Source community.
What Iv'e always thought would be cool would be to change the clockspeed (and as a result, the powerconsumption, heat) of a computer.
Ummm if i am to correctly understand this this is what my Macintosh does on the fly depending on what i am doing both application wize, and to the power saving level i have specifieed, i do not know if this is accurate or not, but hey there is the little checkbox:-))
Slashdot Mirror
Actually, there is not all that much difference between RC5 running on Celeron/PPC of the same clock speed under linux, the PPC is about 200K/Key/s faster, athough the OGR stuff the PPC arch seems to hit the spot, (Written from my Celeron, talking about it and my iBook)
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Methane rain (That must smell nice)
If i am not mistaken i believe that methane is actually pretty much odorless, when we use it for gas to homes and the like we add chemicals so that we can smell it, and not die (in AU at least)
btw, does anyone know of a site that will point out the best hardware for a dual Linux / Windows box, for gaming and work purposes?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
I was under the impression that the waste radioactive material from a nuke detonation was actually reasonably small, and sufficient amount of material remains within about 400m of the detonation site, but that the problems really stem from the shockwave, the EMP generated, and the other high speed particles (X, Gamma)-rays generatd?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Windows 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1 (real mode), 3.1 (standard mode), 3.1 (enhanced mode), 3.11 (aka Windows for Workgroups), 95a, 95b, CE, 98, 98SE, ME, NT3.5, NT3.51, NT4.0, NT Workstation, 2000 (aka NT5), and of course, Bob
Ahhh yes, but that is mutating where YOU want to go today, ummm hang on a second, make that where you are TOLD to go today.
Speaking of mutation, this is sooooo funny. A little story of how windows got virtual mem, i dont know if it has been posted before. I think that the guy should join the linux crew.
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Please dont take me as a troll but... There are already many programs that do what the components of Mozilla do, from good ol pine for mail, to jaim for integrated instant messaging, to vi for HTML editing, and any of hundreds of other apps at friendly freshmeat.net.
But I guess here's where some of the beauty of open source come in. Browsers like galeon can just take gecko and repackage to make my dream browser, fast, small, and feature free. If you haven't seen in it action yet, go here.
On the galeon web site i found the following text "It requires Gnome and MOZILLA M17.", now i see where you are coming from, and to tell the truth i agree with you, but i am just to lazy to do anything about it. (I bolded it to bring out the whole point of this ramble)
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
You are correct. The difference is that the Speedstep PIII will have two speed settings. 500 Mhz @1.1v while on AC power and 300 Mhz at 1.0v while on battery power.
The Crusoe can dynamically change it's clock speed and power consumption i.e. if you are playing solitare, there is not much demand for power from the procesor so the clock speed will be reduced.
That means if the benchmarks mentioned here a while back when the new picturebooks were announced, that found a crusoe 600MHz to run at between a P3 400 and P3 600. That makes the P3 500 that slows down to 300MHz when on battery very very LAME, not really that nice IMNSHO!
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Is there not an Alpha out there that uses this 3 cores on the chip or something?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Dont the current reverse engineering laws allow you to reverse engineer a product so that you can make/write one that is compatable? (I am probably Waaaaaay off here)
I do not approve of a world where a company has the ability to dictate what it is that you can and can not do with a product. By this I especially refer to the MPAA vs DeCSS saga. I worry most about corporations being able to have such a strangle hold on things that if you live in the wrong market demographic no device/film/content/xyz for you.
This is why i like OSS so much, there is no reason why another program can not read/edit another programs File Format (both OSS). There is the security aspect with OSS, in that regardless of what happens in the future there is (or will probably) be some means of seeing the actual source and fixing the problem.
The "Movieland" chain of video stores in Adelaide, Australia - where i live now also have a clause in there agreement when you get a card to use them, that says that they have the right to sell your information -to anyone. Is it just me or do most of these knee-jerk recation laws benefit anyone bar Corporations? What rights does a consumer have? How can we get these? Is there any thing we can do?
Also i ask as a question which is more illegal: If a company A, releases a device D (like the CueCat), and A says that they are not collecting information, that the device D has no way of identifying someone &tc, if a person P, reverse engineers D, does only P get into trouble, is there no accountablility for A, which lied to the public?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Organic foods also can be more dangerous because they use manure as a fertilizer for them, and that can lead to E.coli and whatnot infecting your food.
In Australia there is a company that is/was offering to do a soil test for the quantity/quality of the natural nutrients and trace elements, they would then be able to tell you and sell you a mix of certain crushed rocks, that contained the nessesary trace elements that the property was deficient in.
When we had a fruit block we DID use manure on our organic property (my parents went orgainc to get more money when they sold the place, takes approx 5 years to achive this goal), we used chicken sh*t, that had been "rotting" for ages so that it was safe to put out on the block, I cant see how our apricot trees got e-coli infected, and our yeild's and soil quality increased too!
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Could not the US Postal Service, patent the idea of "Delivering Mail", in any form? Mmmm gives me an idea, i let you all know what it is when i 0wn j00z :)
This was an attempt to be funny, did it work?
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
The Crusoe chip may not be using any new ideas but it does take things farther than anyone else has tried. the PowerPC was to be a risc chip that could emulate cisc. crusoe is a riscish chip that emulates the x86 instruction set.
Actually if i remember correctly, the crusoe is a VLIW core, source:DITZEL.PDF pg10, when the chip was first released. The Document may be here somewhere
How every version of MICROS~1 Windows(TM) comes to exist.
Correct me if i am wrong, the only time that i saw a VIAO, one of the baby little ones, if i am not mistaken it had a P-266MMX (Not pII), but i may be mistaken. So i fail to see (based on the above), how much of a difference a 200MMX would make? Malcolm
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The "Information wants to be free" catch cry has been annoying me for a while. I too want information to be free, i agree that MP3s on napster is a form of stealing. I want to know how do we change the outlook on d/l and distributing anything from software to books.
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But how does one change the view of not only the average Internet user at home, but also the company executives that it is possible to release certain information (in some manner) and make money on it? Things like the napster controversy will only set back the availability of information being cheap and readily available.
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I am refering to the fact that corperations have got such a strangle hold in file formats and the like (FhG's claim taht it is impossible to write an MP3 encoder/decoder with out infringing of their patents), do such patents not exists for MPEG-4? Or Did the ppl who set it up, and designed the "STANDARD" screw up, enableing us to have a way in which we can write an OPEN (beer/speech) MPEG-4 codec?
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(OFFTOPIC)I know that this is offtopic and all, but, thanx for the response, but when i tried .ogg format for my music, lame would not encode a name into the track, winamp would not let me change this name, and when i used my machine, the .oggs appeared to get noticeably worse in quality, (i did a few tests). Whereas bladeenc did not have similar issues. I really should switch from win32 to Linux or BSD for my desktop, and leave the mac for word processing, but i really dont know which to use: BSD/Linux & which distro. Oh well i spose i could try both and go from there.(/OFFTOPIC)
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Sorry that this has gone offtopic
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I think that this will be great, but won't there be problems with some ports not being available to MacOSX because it uses that Aqua thing (i intend on using MacOSX on my iBook, because i believe that it will be more stable and use the power more efficiently, than the currently available Linux;s) This is not to bag the Linux distros that are currently avail, after all Apple do have ALL the cards with regard to info about the hardware.
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IMHO, it's ridiculous that there are no courses in Universities that relate to the history of couputing
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What i think is even more reprohensable is that at The University of South Australia (Mawson Lakes Campus [formerly the Levels]), they are moveing away from unix alot. Last year they installed a STUPID MS Exchange E-Mail farm, and are moving to Java for the teaching language (no C any more).[This is not a bag on Java]
And just the other day i was reading a Lecurers notes that he hands out to students on unix (for part of the subject that fortunately required UNIX), and one of the many, but in my opinion the worst mistake that was made was that he stated that the verion of unix that students were allowed to use was the tcsh version. I mean it is a frigging SHELL not a version! *shudder*
UniSA's web page
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The problems with mobiles (in AU at least) from my point of view is that the older models, just dissapear from the market when a new (and better model appears).
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What this means for me at least is that i can not afford the $700AU (for a DECENT phone). So i just wont upgrade / buy a new one unless my current one breaks.
I believe that the pricing Structure and the way that old phones dont get discouted is the reason why ppl dont upgrade phones.
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The only reason they keep their main line CISC is because the demands placed on them by Microsoft for backward compatability.
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Would not the fact that WindowsCE runs on it enable a shift so to speak in the processors? I know that Itanium is a Very Long Something Or-other. And that RISC is away from this, but could not something like this enable the desktop to start moving avay from IA32?
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Not the birds or the fog. But if this is takn up by a lot of ppl/companies, will we not see bandwidth pollution similar to what is/happening with devices that operate in the 3G spectrum? The portable (not mobile) phones, the radio lan cards that are made, the airport (from apple)(yeah bastratdised radio lan cards), [perhaps the previous could be summed up as 802.11].??
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A Sledgehammer that draws ~1W, hell no make that 8 of them, mmmm faaaaaaast.
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:)
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Why not? Anyone can put together a distribution. MS sure as heck could spare a few score people to pull together MSLinux. Yeah, they'd have to live with the restrictions the GPL imposes... so what? RedHat, Caldrea, and the like seem to be making a go of it.
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So they have to make it freely available... and your point would be? They already overcharge on their OS sales by around 500%. So, let's say $2 to press a CD, $3 for packaging and simple manuals, and, oh, $100 for a 5-incident support contract. Sound familiar? MS already makes a habit out of charging for support; this would allow them to really turn it into a profit center.
Actually the only thing that they would really need to do is release a disk containing the GPL'd sowftare, that can be redistrubuted. Any MS Linux2050 (asumeing that it get done) could be as propriatry as they want, all they have to do is include any binaries / librarys that are linked to stuff that does NOT REQUIRE the GPL to be viriied down through any software linking to it, and viawalla(?sp?) we can have MS-XWindows2050, includes whatever they want, and all they need include is a freely distibutable disk of ALL of the GPL stuff they used.
I will be interested to see if they can (do) pull of a decent office suite for linux, hell even IE, i mean IE 5.0 on the Mac is sweet, as far as browsers go, and more stable than the windows one. But i think MS's biggest problem is not so much that they write commercial sowftare, but they WAY they write and market it?
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Well, actually, pure alcohol is pretty much tasteless
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Ummm actually, the dehdrating effect that PURE alcohol has kind of makes up for this, personally i'd say that alcohol (PURE) is kinda dry/bitter all rolled into one.
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Lol, i can see the IBM conversation now...
..) certified HW in the form of the Thinkpad laptop, the winmodem was not even replaced with a real modem.
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MGR: Umm boss this linux thingy is giving Dell a bit of hard time, you should see the crap they are copping on slashdot.
IBM: Mmmm better drop all support for linux, gemme the spin doctors on the fone NOW!
Seriously i would have to say that i hope that this linux support is more than just token, IMNSHO, When IBM first announced a RH (i know RH is not linux, but
I also hope that if they are not giving a price discount if you choose linux, that they should at least buy say the offficial RH or DEB dist from that organisation, so that some $$$$'s make it back to the Open Source community.
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What Iv'e always thought would be cool would be to change the clockspeed (and as a result, the powerconsumption, heat) of a computer.
:-))
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Ummm if i am to correctly understand this this is what my Macintosh does on the fly depending on what i am doing both application wize, and to the power saving level i have specifieed, i do not know if this is accurate or not, but hey there is the little checkbox
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