but my god, what a piece of crap. Gnome is bad enough, a swollen, parasite ridden pig, with dystemper. But Nautilus twice as bad, and is the epitome of everything that is wrong with gnome, take a simple task, to wit, visually representing a hierarchal file system in a easy to understand way, and simplifying the manipulation of that file system, and instead create a file manager that does everything else (that is rightly the purview of other utilities) but manage files well. If want a desktop/window manager, I will install a desktop/window manager. Worse like a lot of gnome applications, Nautilus requires a number of additional huge footprint modules to be running in the background that either start with Nautilus, but don't shut down when Nautilus is shutdown, or just start no matter what when X is started.
Anything further from an idea file manager I couldn't imagine, it is almost identical the role Windows Explorer plays in Windows, but manages to use even more resources (I never thought I would see the day when a UNIX program would out bloat a Windows program.
People start talking about "historic" computers, and I look around and see I have most the ones they mention still plugged in and running on various tables in my home office.
It all depends on the provider, in my opinion Comcast's network is so screwed up (routing problems, dropped packets, what have you) that, at least in this area, Qwest's 1.6m/768k dsl lines consistently deliver higher real throughput than Comcast's 6m/768k service. I haven't had any direct experience with Verizon's FIOS service, but given how crappy there data service usually is, I don't imagine it is much better. Now if somebody like Qwest or AT&T started deploying very high bandwidth it might make a difference, but then the reason they aren't is probably because that, unlike companies like Comcast and Verizon, they realize they don't have the backend infrastructure to support it.
I would prefer providers make sure their core infrastructure is upgraded first, before offering a gazillion megabit at the edge. Unfortunately the current system (economic and political) doesn't reward carriers for doing this.
This just makes me insane, I know it was already mentioned several times that people wish HP would put this kind of effort into reviving the Alpha. But to read about them putting this much money into a piece crap like that Itanium after the way they chucked out the Alpha, is expecially galling when you consider that in HP's own internal testing, Alpha EV8s and 9s consistently wipe the floor with even the latest Itaniums.
All nighters with full days on either end, the worst was when I had to nurse a alpha release emergency call routing system through a weekend because of an ice storm, and the existing production system couldn't handle the dispatch requirements. I was at work from 6 am friday through sometime early monday afternoon, and except for a 20 minute nap on a couch around the middle of sunday, awake and working the whole time.
Most of the other comments covered the eye break issues well enough, but I have emphasize the importance of enough sleep. I just left a big consulting house position last year because I was suffering from serious concentration and cognitive problems, severe short term memory problems, and permanent long term memory loss.
the cause was relatively easy for the doctor to diagnose, 11 years of 3 to 4 hours a night sleep, and frequent (5 to 6 times a year) 50+ hour days. I was also a 100% travel, so virtually the only time I slept was on airplanes, and weekend nights.
after 5 months of 7 to 10 hours of sleep a night, and low stress small busines consulting, I am only just now beginning to recover, and from what the doctor says some of the memory problems will be permanent.
I can not recommend strongly enough, get a minimum of 7 hours of sleep a night at least 4 nights a week.
Good with math, but very musically challenged, it takes quite a few pints of Guinness to make my singing sound good, and then I am still the only who thinks so, of course I also think everybody is my friend at that point, so they would never tell me I how bad I suck
Traditional boat building (in several forms), traditional boat sailing while using non-electronically aided navigation techniques, blacksmithing, leatherwork, sewing and furniture making. These are skills I probably could have made a living with in an earlier age. Probably would have been relatively happy doing it too.
Try again, you need to get everybodies buy in. Executives (in this case principals, board members, and such) are easy to convince because budget is foremost in thier minds. But if you don't convince the daily users of the tool (in this case teachers and admins) that they will actually be better off using (and this includes extensive training) then when they are forced to change kicking and screaming, they work hard to find and complain vociferously about every little bug or perceived bug, until the executives decide that the open source software is just too disruptive, despite its merits.
If you really want to make it work, find small sampling of teachers and admins, introduce them to the tool (e.g. openoffice), work with them closely to train them, teach them about the features, get them comfortable with using, and they will become your advocates for the others.
I whole heartedly agree with you that The Register was irresponsible in the way the structured the article, however I firmly believe that people in general are very much to blame. the cardinal rule of article writing you quote is indicative a much larger problem, and a worsening trend in our society as a whole. In that frighteningly large segments of the worlds populations now form opinions based reading one paragaph, hearing one two minute sound bite, and then immediately embark are society changing crusades. I just wish everybody, on all sides of every issue, would spend a little more time reading whole articles/books, listening to entire lectures, and most importantly spend as much time researching the oppositions arguments as you do your own.
I wish somebody would invent prozac for civilization.
Guess what, most every religion claims that too much knowledge in the possession of man is evil.
Genesis and Ecclesiastes appear in somewhat different forms, in the Torah and the Qur'an.
The Greek/Roman gods were very opposed to mere mortals learning to much of the world around them, to the point that they violently punished members of their pantheon for imparting knowledge to the mortals.
Various north and central african mythologies decry the act recording knowledge in written form as evil
Primitive Aztec and Mayan gods (or rather the priests) were blatant in jealously guarding the fact that their power came from knowledge they had the mortals didn't, and made a it a religous crime to attempt gain knowledge that would allow them greater control of the crop yields, or to cure sickness, as these actions where in the purview of the gods.
Hinduism and Buddism are example of religions that did teach that some knowledge was good, but even these religons tend focus the learning process internally and encourage practioners to ignore "outside" and "physical" world.
The two books from the bible I mentioned as an example, most every religon has discouraged the "plebes" from learning more than was good for them. There have been exceptions, but for the most part they have been rare and short lived.
Reading this article from SciAm was like picking at a scab on my arm, and now I all of the sudden, I am bleeding all over the place.
What I find truly frightening, is the complete abandonment of the fundamentals of critical thinking on the part of so many people these days, regardless of where they are in the political/sociological spectrum. I used to think this was only the case with people on the extreme ends of the various points of view, and that there was a non-vociferous majority somewhere in the middle, that thought and behaved rationaly, and based decisions on observable fact, or only when absolutely necessary on logical and limited assumptions. But as I watch our civilization go down the tubes, I am forced to admit, that it seems in fact, that irrational postulating and assertion based on prejudice and superstition, are the norm.
I long ago gave up on "Scientific American" as a journal of science, they have long sinced abandoned (if they ever did) reporting on real scientific research favor of promoting the questionable "progressive" agendas of liberal idealogues through use of pseudo-scientific gobbly-de-gook.
In this respect they reflect same attitudes and prejudices of most of what passes for todays scientists, particularly those working in U.S. and European academia. The disciplines of the Scientific Method and Objective Observation have been completely destroyed by the modern liberal "intelligentsia", in an effort to promote "progressive" social "theories" in the soft sciences.
It is this reductionism in the discipline of science that has allowed the right wing religous fruit cakes, promulgate Creationism as a viable alternative to Evolutionary theory as an explanation for the existence of Homo Sapiens.
It still astounds me, that in this day and age that anyone would choose superstition over observed fact. That christians can stand up and with a straight face proclaim that their mythology is valid at all, much less any more valid than any of a hundred other mythologies generated by primitive man, boggles the mind.
For those of you of the superstitious bent, let me help you with what a theory is. A theory is a logical description of natural processes that is derived from observed facts. The theory of evolution is currently the best description available for the observed facts of genetic inheritance, and the progressive transformation of living creatures. A theory is NOT an assertion based on belief in the boogeyman, i.e. Creationism.
Religon is and always will be the enemy of knowledge, anyone who has ever read Genesis and Ecclesiastes (from the real bible, not that pre-digested, "modernized" pap known as the King James) knows this.
If there is anyone out there who I haven't managed to piss off, let me know, I will get to you next.
I love Firefox as much as the next geek, but come on guys, do you think we can limit the historical studies to subjects which have not come about within the lifetime of a teenager, much less an infant.
I keep trying both gnome and kde every year or so, and keep switching back to blackbox, or these days, fluxbox, they just use to much in the way resources for what they give back in functionality. I seem to remember seeing in the forums a few months back the one of the current goals of the project was to trim the fat a little, has anyone who has tried it lately noticed any improvements in this regard? or for that matter any improvements in kde's footprint also?
Now, this is an arguable point. I disagree with you , but this is definitely a defensible position.
Of course you are assuming that a working society can not maintained without government providing social welfare and for that matter that governmental provision of social welfare is even beneficial to a working society, when in fact there is ample historical evidence that governmental provision of social welfare is definitely harmful to society.
Social welfare is a bit of a nebulous term, could you provide a definition for what you believe social welfare consists of?
I don't necessarily disagree with you about politician intent/motivation, but with regard to motivations, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
My comment on flawed premises and reasoning skills was directed at the original posters last comment, that people who don't think all legislation is morally based are using flawed reasoning. He assumes the premise that governments purpose is enforcement of morality, a premise not established or supported by argument.
Once again you state a premise as fact, which is arguable at best, and completely wrong at worst. A poor beginning for debate, and completely inappropriate as the basis of legislation.
You are so absolutely wrong, the laws against murder and theft are not laws for moral reasons. Government has one basic purpose and one purpose only, to maintain a monopoly on the use of force and coercion, and prevent the use of force and coercion by one citizen against another (policing) and by other countries/states against its own country/state (military).
This is the one area where both the Democrats and Republicans piss me off the most.
The democrats are being hypocrites as they are the ones always yelling about the republicans legislating morality, when what is welfare but moral legislation to force it citizenry to care for those less well off.
And the repubulicans are just as bad yammering about keeping government from over regulating and restricting our freedoms, and then they turn around and support laws which restrict our freedoms with regard to activities were there is no force/coercion/victim.
You can have the best reasoning skills in the world, and if your initial premises are flawed, you conclusion will be wrong every time.
I just wish people would really take the time to think about the consequences and effects of all this legislation, instead of the indulging the knee jerk, liberal pandering to "society's needy", and the conservative drive to a theocratic tyranny.
Goverment is supposed protect us from others, not take care of us, and not protect us from ourselves.
I am not so sure, just because it hasn't been doesn't mean it can't be. In addition to being capable, your hypothetical race would have to have their sh_t together politically and sociologically enough to actually do it.
Look at us, despite having the capability to leave our planet for over forty years, and having an understanding of the probability that eventually something will likely blot us from the face of the earth, we still haven't gotten around to actually trying move any significant population of this ball of mud.
Ponzi scheme, is an invenstment scheme wherein money is paid out to eary investors with money raised from subsequent investors.
The name comes from a man who became infamous for one of the early notable schemes of this type in the 1920s, and most pyramid schemes are simply derivations of this same concept.
This is exactly what social security does, and exactly like all Ponzi schemes it can only be maintained if the number of people putting money continuously grows larger than the number of people taking money out. Something by the way that will stop happening as the baby boomers start to retire.
The only other option is to start feeding money into the system from the general fund.
And by the way since you are being a jerk, I don't like Rush Limbaugh, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh, and I am not even a republican!
What I am is someone who has actually studied the issue, and understands mathematics. Which you are clearly not.
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but my god, what a piece of crap. Gnome is bad enough, a swollen, parasite ridden pig, with dystemper. But Nautilus twice as bad, and is the epitome of everything that is wrong with gnome, take a simple task, to wit, visually representing a hierarchal file system in a easy to understand way, and simplifying the manipulation of that file system, and instead create a file manager that does everything else (that is rightly the purview of other utilities) but manage files well. If want a desktop/window manager, I will install a desktop/window manager. Worse like a lot of gnome applications, Nautilus requires a number of additional huge footprint modules to be running in the background that either start with Nautilus, but don't shut down when Nautilus is shutdown, or just start no matter what when X is started.
Anything further from an idea file manager I couldn't imagine, it is almost identical the role Windows Explorer plays in Windows, but manages to use even more resources (I never thought I would see the day when a UNIX program would out bloat a Windows program.
People start talking about "historic" computers, and I look around and see I have most the ones they mention still plugged in and running on various tables in my home office.
It makes me feel old.
I don't know why you posted anonymous, that was probably one of the most intelligent things I have ever seen posted on slashdot.
Right there with you.
It all depends on the provider, in my opinion Comcast's network is so screwed up (routing problems, dropped packets, what have you) that, at least in this area, Qwest's 1.6m/768k dsl lines consistently deliver higher real throughput than Comcast's 6m/768k service. I haven't had any direct experience with Verizon's FIOS service, but given how crappy there data service usually is, I don't imagine it is much better. Now if somebody like Qwest or AT&T started deploying very high bandwidth it might make a difference, but then the reason they aren't is probably because that, unlike companies like Comcast and Verizon, they realize they don't have the backend infrastructure to support it.
I would prefer providers make sure their core infrastructure is upgraded first, before offering a gazillion megabit at the edge. Unfortunately the current system (economic and political) doesn't reward carriers for doing this.
So your argument is that since everyone else is acting like a jerk, Linus and/or other opensource developers should too?
This just makes me insane, I know it was already mentioned several times that people wish HP would put this kind of effort into reviving the Alpha. But to read about them putting this much money into a piece crap like that Itanium after the way they chucked out the Alpha, is expecially galling when you consider that in HP's own internal testing, Alpha EV8s and 9s consistently wipe the floor with even the latest Itaniums.
All nighters with full days on either end, the worst was when I had to nurse a alpha release emergency call routing system through a weekend because of an ice storm, and the existing production system couldn't handle the dispatch requirements. I was at work from 6 am friday through sometime early monday afternoon, and except for a 20 minute nap on a couch around the middle of sunday, awake and working the whole time.
Most of the other comments covered the eye break issues well enough, but I have emphasize the importance of enough sleep. I just left a big consulting house position last year because I was suffering from serious concentration and cognitive problems, severe short term memory problems, and permanent long term memory loss.
the cause was relatively easy for the doctor to diagnose, 11 years of 3 to 4 hours a night sleep, and frequent (5 to 6 times a year) 50+ hour days. I was also a 100% travel, so virtually the only time I slept was on airplanes, and weekend nights.
after 5 months of 7 to 10 hours of sleep a night, and low stress small busines consulting, I am only just now beginning to recover, and from what the doctor says some of the memory problems will be permanent.
I can not recommend strongly enough, get a minimum of 7 hours of sleep a night at least 4 nights a week.
Good with math, but very musically challenged, it takes quite a few pints of Guinness to make my singing sound good, and then I am still the only who thinks so, of course I also think everybody is my friend at that point, so they would never tell me I how bad I suck
Traditional boat building (in several forms), traditional boat sailing while using non-electronically aided navigation techniques, blacksmithing, leatherwork, sewing and furniture making. These are skills I probably could have made a living with in an earlier age. Probably would have been relatively happy doing it too.
Not even in latin.
I'd be careful tossing around the word idiot.
Try again, you need to get everybodies buy in. Executives (in this case principals, board members, and such) are easy to convince because budget is foremost in thier minds. But if you don't convince the daily users of the tool (in this case teachers and admins) that they will actually be better off using (and this includes extensive training) then when they are forced to change kicking and screaming, they work hard to find and complain vociferously about every little bug or perceived bug, until the executives decide that the open source software is just too disruptive, despite its merits.
If you really want to make it work, find small sampling of teachers and admins, introduce them to the tool (e.g. openoffice), work with them closely to train them, teach them about the features, get them comfortable with using, and they will become your advocates for the others.
I whole heartedly agree with you that The Register was irresponsible in the way the structured the article, however I firmly believe that people in general are very much to blame. the cardinal rule of article writing you quote is indicative a much larger problem, and a worsening trend in our society as a whole. In that frighteningly large segments of the worlds populations now form opinions based reading one paragaph, hearing one two minute sound bite, and then immediately embark are society changing crusades. I just wish everybody, on all sides of every issue, would spend a little more time reading whole articles/books, listening to entire lectures, and most importantly spend as much time researching the oppositions arguments as you do your own.
I wish somebody would invent prozac for civilization.
Guess what, most every religion claims that too much knowledge in the possession of man is evil.
Genesis and Ecclesiastes appear in somewhat different forms, in the Torah and the Qur'an.
The Greek/Roman gods were very opposed to mere mortals learning to much of the world around them, to the point that they violently punished members of their pantheon for imparting knowledge to the mortals.
Various north and central african mythologies decry the act recording knowledge in written form as evil
Primitive Aztec and Mayan gods (or rather the priests) were blatant in jealously guarding the fact that their power came from knowledge they had the mortals didn't, and made a it a religous crime to attempt gain knowledge that would allow them greater control of the crop yields, or to cure sickness, as these actions where in the purview of the gods.
Hinduism and Buddism are example of religions that did teach that some knowledge was good, but even these religons tend focus the learning process internally and encourage practioners to ignore "outside" and "physical" world.
The two books from the bible I mentioned as an example, most every religon has discouraged the "plebes" from learning more than was good for them. There have been exceptions, but for the most part they have been rare and short lived.
I don't even no where to begin,
Reading this article from SciAm was like picking at a scab on my arm, and now I all of the sudden, I am bleeding all over the place.
What I find truly frightening, is the complete abandonment of the fundamentals of critical thinking on the part of so many people these days, regardless of where they are in the political/sociological spectrum. I used to think this was only the case with people on the extreme ends of the various points of view, and that there was a non-vociferous majority somewhere in the middle, that thought and behaved rationaly, and based decisions on observable fact, or only when absolutely necessary on logical and limited assumptions. But as I watch our civilization go down the tubes, I am forced to admit, that it seems in fact, that irrational postulating and assertion based on prejudice and superstition, are the norm.
I long ago gave up on "Scientific American" as a journal of science, they have long sinced abandoned (if they ever did) reporting on real scientific research favor of promoting the questionable "progressive" agendas of liberal idealogues through use of pseudo-scientific gobbly-de-gook.
In this respect they reflect same attitudes and prejudices of most of what passes for todays scientists, particularly those working in U.S. and European academia. The disciplines of the Scientific Method and Objective Observation have been completely destroyed by the modern liberal "intelligentsia", in an effort to promote "progressive" social "theories" in the soft sciences.
It is this reductionism in the discipline of science that has allowed the right wing religous fruit cakes, promulgate Creationism as a viable alternative to Evolutionary theory as an explanation for the existence of Homo Sapiens.
It still astounds me, that in this day and age that anyone would choose superstition over observed fact. That christians can stand up and with a straight face proclaim that their mythology is valid at all, much less any more valid than any of a hundred other mythologies generated by primitive man, boggles the mind.
For those of you of the superstitious bent, let me help you with what a theory is. A theory is a logical description of natural processes that is derived from observed facts. The theory of evolution is currently the best description available for the observed facts of genetic inheritance, and the progressive transformation of living creatures. A theory is NOT an assertion based on belief in the boogeyman, i.e. Creationism.
Religon is and always will be the enemy of knowledge, anyone who has ever read Genesis and Ecclesiastes (from the real bible, not that pre-digested, "modernized" pap known as the King James) knows this.
If there is anyone out there who I haven't managed to piss off, let me know, I will get to you next.
I love Firefox as much as the next geek, but come on guys, do you think we can limit the historical studies to subjects which have not come about within the lifetime of a teenager, much less an infant.
I keep trying both gnome and kde every year or so, and keep switching back to blackbox, or these days, fluxbox, they just use to much in the way resources for what they give back in functionality. I seem to remember seeing in the forums a few months back the one of the current goals of the project was to trim the fat a little, has anyone who has tried it lately noticed any improvements in this regard? or for that matter any improvements in kde's footprint also?
Just curious
Now, this is an arguable point. I disagree with you , but this is definitely a defensible position.
Of course you are assuming that a working society can not maintained without government providing social welfare and for that matter that governmental provision of social welfare is even beneficial to a working society, when in fact there is ample historical evidence that governmental provision of social welfare is definitely harmful to society.
Social welfare is a bit of a nebulous term, could you provide a definition for what you believe social welfare consists of?
I don't necessarily disagree with you about politician intent/motivation, but with regard to motivations, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
My comment on flawed premises and reasoning skills was directed at the original posters last comment, that people who don't think all legislation is morally based are using flawed reasoning. He assumes the premise that governments purpose is enforcement of morality, a premise not established or supported by argument.
Once again you state a premise as fact, which is arguable at best, and completely wrong at worst. A poor beginning for debate, and completely inappropriate as the basis of legislation.
Here is an exercise for you, compare and contrast the definitions of ethic and moral. The rights of individuals are a concept of ethics.
You are so absolutely wrong, the laws against murder and theft are not laws for moral reasons. Government has one basic purpose and one purpose only, to maintain a monopoly on the use of force and coercion, and prevent the use of force and coercion by one citizen against another (policing) and by other countries/states against its own country/state (military).
This is the one area where both the Democrats and Republicans piss me off the most.
The democrats are being hypocrites as they are the ones always yelling about the republicans legislating morality, when what is welfare but moral legislation to force it citizenry to care for those less well off.
And the repubulicans are just as bad yammering about keeping government from over regulating and restricting our freedoms, and then they turn around and support laws which restrict our freedoms with regard to activities were there is no force/coercion/victim.
You can have the best reasoning skills in the world, and if your initial premises are flawed, you conclusion will be wrong every time.
I just wish people would really take the time to think about the consequences and effects of all this legislation, instead of the indulging the knee jerk, liberal pandering to "society's needy", and the conservative drive to a theocratic tyranny.
Goverment is supposed protect us from others, not take care of us, and not protect us from ourselves.
Anything else is an abuse of liberty!
I am not so sure, just because it hasn't been doesn't mean it can't be. In addition to being capable, your hypothetical race would have to have their sh_t together politically and sociologically enough to actually do it.
Look at us, despite having the capability to leave our planet for over forty years, and having an understanding of the probability that eventually something will likely blot us from the face of the earth, we still haven't gotten around to actually trying move any significant population of this ball of mud.
And you, sir, need to buy a dictionary.
Ponzi scheme, is an invenstment scheme wherein money is paid out to eary investors with money raised from subsequent investors.
The name comes from a man who became infamous for one of the early notable schemes of this type in the 1920s, and most pyramid schemes are simply derivations of this same concept.
This is exactly what social security does, and exactly like all Ponzi schemes it can only be maintained if the number of people putting money continuously grows larger than the number of people taking money out. Something by the way that will stop happening as the baby boomers start to retire.
The only other option is to start feeding money into the system from the general fund.
And by the way since you are being a jerk, I don't like Rush Limbaugh, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh, and I am not even a republican!
What I am is someone who has actually studied the issue, and understands mathematics. Which you are clearly not.