Certainly Ruby has a lot of features that may seem like automagic but using those features to simply coding for beginners, and then teaching them how they work later seems like a fine way to do it. In my opinion Ruby is a much nicer language than Python, and I'd further make the argument that if you're going to be teaching something like Python you may as well teach C++. I'd also further make the argument that programming should be taught in grade school as a general purpose tool so children may some day use it in their non-programming jobs - and for that Ruby and all its "automagic" would "seem to be obviously better".
I got an all-in-one HP inkjet about 2 years ago that's been a nightmare. The ink dries out in a matter of days and even new full cartridges will barely print 10 full color pages - which brings a page cost to something like Y360 or about $4 US for a full color A4 photo-quality print. Even economy mode is terrible. I've actually had to drill out holes in the top which I unseal before I print and saturate the cartridges with a little water and generic-economy ink. It's held me over for a while now and brought printing cost down significantly, but it's still a stupid kludge on inferior technology.
So I'm with sapgau on that one, next printer I buy will probably be an economy Epson color laser.
That and the fact they make shitty, barely functioning products. Anybody know if they've ever actually produced a wireless product that didn't overheat or have power issues after 5 minutes of use? I sure haven't seen one!
Well with WebOS they'd have a solid API they could use for generations of printers without a lot of porting and compatibility issues. In fact they are already trying to come out with "Print Apps", I'm sure they'd like to have those on the printer itself: http://h50146.www5.hp.com/products/printers/inkjet/print_apps/ Add to that the ability to update the software and probably a variety of wireless integration features and you have what would basically be an all in one printing solution for people who can't deal with a computer (and in Japan there are a LOT of old people).
http://www.epson.jp/products/colorio/printer/me/ Printers with screens and keyboards and built in software to print photos, greeting cards, calendars, and quite a few other things. WebOS would be perfect for one of these and I'd bet that's exactly what they want to do with it.
I'm surprised you stuck it out on OSX coming from Debian. Just installing software is enough of a pain in the ass on OSX compared to Debian, not to mention how the system is laid out and how it's relatively impossible to customize. Granted I could see how coming from Windows it would be nice, but from Debian!?
rsync! And I just backup my home directory or/home/etc and/var on servers. If you are using a Debian based distro it's easy to recreate the system fresh with just the installed package list.
I'm using GNOME Shell (on Ubuntu 11.10) and have resorted to using tint2, but that doesn't fix things like the top bar (or any bar) having a proper system tray and the desktop pager options suck etc. I'm pretty used to GNOME Shell now and I honestly love the core functionality but those little details have been bugging me.
That screen-shot you linked to looks gorgeous. Exactly what I want! I'll be checking it out soon.
As much as I dislike Apple products myself you have outlined a situation I wholly believe no device could better fill than the iPad and given detailed evidence as to why. Somebody mod Cosmic Debris up!
no, ubuntu has been turning into a bastardized bloated piece of shit distro
Let me break that up: Bloated - You could call it that but it's also the closest to what the average desktop user would want right out of the box. The fact is I can install it for someone and they immediately have office, music players, etc. and a few toys. For that kind of user it's nice. Turning into shit - The progression from 9.04 (stable, solid) -> 9.10 (compatibility issues out the ass) -> 10.04 (ok, a little more together, some issues but more shiny) -> 10.11 (why do I feel like this is the last stop?) -> 11.04 (wow, Unity is terrible, they should at least still have GNOME installed by default?) -> 11.10 (Unity still sucks and GNOME 3 isn't near functional, shit is broken left and right, installing binary drivers all the sudden breaks things, tons of functionality missing, strangely broken packages left and right, WTF!?). So yeah, turning into shit.
and now this is the final nail in the coffin.
The thing is Ubuntu still works and it does have a lot of polish when compared to vanilla Debian. For a lot of people it's that polish that makes the difference.
ubuntu kiddies need to use a real linux distro and stop trying to use "windows lite", it's slow, memory leaks all over the place and overall just a poor distro ubuntu is an embarrassment to the linux community
I'm not really sure you could call it "windows lite", especially since Shuttleworth seems to be bent on making it look and feel like some sort of artistic deconstruction of OSX. Not really sure on the memory leaks thing either but perhaps that's a Unity thing and I don't use Unity so I just don't know. If you are a classic Linux user I'd say it's fair to call it an "emberrassment" as Ubuntu has continually chosen to discard functionality and replace it with their own brand of flashy/popular/easy - but that's also decreased the entry level and attracted a lot of new users. The fact is I can say "Linux" and now people don't look at me funny, now they get an image of an orange or purple desktop with a bunch of widgets and compositing effects.
Precisely, and it is my view that the GPL being both aggressively open source (forcing open source on those who use the code base) while protecting the rights and enabling options of the copyright holders that make the GPL a superior OSS license.
Industry support and familiarity, availability of compilers, direct support by large projects (Debian, Ubuntu), and simply brand familiarity. I mean if you are going to make an argument about PA-RISC you may as well make the same argument about MIPS and whatever Motorola and IBM are calling their chips these days while you're at it.
It really is nice and the form factor of the clamshell model is excellent. It fits in my pocket with my phone, and I can pop it open, write some code, compile it, or actually write a document without having to mess with touch screen input. Unfortunately Android got really popular really quickly and they released what is basically an Android version called the IS01, then that didn't sell well and the whole thing kind of disappeared. I'm hoping they release a new version at some point, maybe with a multi-core ARM processor, but I'm not holding my breath.
Now if I could dual boot a phone or had just a straight Ubuntu phone option with a stylus and writing recognition (and a little pocket bluetooth keyboard) I'd be very, very happy.
I'm not trying to make a case for it but legalization means it's taxable and can be regulated. If people are going to do it anyway may as well make money off of it, and it's not like the effects are worse than alcohol so the reasons they give to keep it illegal are kind of moot.
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Certainly Ruby has a lot of features that may seem like automagic but using those features to simply coding for beginners, and then teaching them how they work later seems like a fine way to do it. In my opinion Ruby is a much nicer language than Python, and I'd further make the argument that if you're going to be teaching something like Python you may as well teach C++. I'd also further make the argument that programming should be taught in grade school as a general purpose tool so children may some day use it in their non-programming jobs - and for that Ruby and all its "automagic" would "seem to be obviously better".
I guess he was going to try and become an OBGYN?
Either way I hope they just kicked him out.
Thank you very much for that very well worded clarification.
Actually if that's the order to 7 Vista would be release 7... did you read your list or was that a joke?
I'm reminded of Windows version numbers. ...huh? - 7!
1 - 2 - 3 - NT4? -
I got an all-in-one HP inkjet about 2 years ago that's been a nightmare. The ink dries out in a matter of days and even new full cartridges will barely print 10 full color pages - which brings a page cost to something like Y360 or about $4 US for a full color A4 photo-quality print. Even economy mode is terrible. I've actually had to drill out holes in the top which I unseal before I print and saturate the cartridges with a little water and generic-economy ink. It's held me over for a while now and brought printing cost down significantly, but it's still a stupid kludge on inferior technology.
So I'm with sapgau on that one, next printer I buy will probably be an economy Epson color laser.
That and the fact they make shitty, barely functioning products. Anybody know if they've ever actually produced a wireless product that didn't overheat or have power issues after 5 minutes of use? I sure haven't seen one!
Well with WebOS they'd have a solid API they could use for generations of printers without a lot of porting and compatibility issues. In fact they are already trying to come out with "Print Apps", I'm sure they'd like to have those on the printer itself: http://h50146.www5.hp.com/products/printers/inkjet/print_apps/ Add to that the ability to update the software and probably a variety of wireless integration features and you have what would basically be an all in one printing solution for people who can't deal with a computer (and in Japan there are a LOT of old people).
It is! And they sell fairly well actually.
http://www.epson.jp/products/colorio/printer/me/
Printers with screens and keyboards and built in software to print photos, greeting cards, calendars, and quite a few other things. WebOS would be perfect for one of these and I'd bet that's exactly what they want to do with it.
I'm surprised you stuck it out on OSX coming from Debian. Just installing software is enough of a pain in the ass on OSX compared to Debian, not to mention how the system is laid out and how it's relatively impossible to customize. Granted I could see how coming from Windows it would be nice, but from Debian!?
rsync! And I just backup my home directory or /home /etc and /var on servers. If you are using a Debian based distro it's easy to recreate the system fresh with just the installed package list.
THIS! Someone mod parent up.
We also eat a cake.
Wow, where in Asia do you live? Here in Japan I've never seen that, and to be honest ketchup on pizza sounds disgusting.
... and?
I'm using GNOME Shell (on Ubuntu 11.10) and have resorted to using tint2, but that doesn't fix things like the top bar (or any bar) having a proper system tray and the desktop pager options suck etc. I'm pretty used to GNOME Shell now and I honestly love the core functionality but those little details have been bugging me.
That screen-shot you linked to looks gorgeous. Exactly what I want! I'll be checking it out soon.
As much as I dislike Apple products myself you have outlined a situation I wholly believe no device could better fill than the iPad and given detailed evidence as to why. Somebody mod Cosmic Debris up!
no, ubuntu has been turning into a bastardized bloated piece of shit distro
Let me break that up:
Bloated - You could call it that but it's also the closest to what the average desktop user would want right out of the box. The fact is I can install it for someone and they immediately have office, music players, etc. and a few toys. For that kind of user it's nice.
Turning into shit - The progression from 9.04 (stable, solid) -> 9.10 (compatibility issues out the ass) -> 10.04 (ok, a little more together, some issues but more shiny) -> 10.11 (why do I feel like this is the last stop?) -> 11.04 (wow, Unity is terrible, they should at least still have GNOME installed by default?) -> 11.10 (Unity still sucks and GNOME 3 isn't near functional, shit is broken left and right, installing binary drivers all the sudden breaks things, tons of functionality missing, strangely broken packages left and right, WTF!?). So yeah, turning into shit.
and now this is the final nail in the coffin.
The thing is Ubuntu still works and it does have a lot of polish when compared to vanilla Debian. For a lot of people it's that polish that makes the difference.
ubuntu kiddies need to use a real linux distro and stop trying to use "windows lite", it's slow, memory leaks all over the place and overall just a poor distro
ubuntu is an embarrassment to the linux community
I'm not really sure you could call it "windows lite", especially since Shuttleworth seems to be bent on making it look and feel like some sort of artistic deconstruction of OSX. Not really sure on the memory leaks thing either but perhaps that's a Unity thing and I don't use Unity so I just don't know. If you are a classic Linux user I'd say it's fair to call it an "emberrassment" as Ubuntu has continually chosen to discard functionality and replace it with their own brand of flashy/popular/easy - but that's also decreased the entry level and attracted a lot of new users. The fact is I can say "Linux" and now people don't look at me funny, now they get an image of an orange or purple desktop with a bunch of widgets and compositing effects.
Precisely, and it is my view that the GPL being both aggressively open source (forcing open source on those who use the code base) while protecting the rights and enabling options of the copyright holders that make the GPL a superior OSS license.
Go do your homework, GMO is THE weapon against hunger and if it wasn't for GMO many countries would still be starving.
Industry support and familiarity, availability of compilers, direct support by large projects (Debian, Ubuntu), and simply brand familiarity. I mean if you are going to make an argument about PA-RISC you may as well make the same argument about MIPS and whatever Motorola and IBM are calling their chips these days while you're at it.
It really is nice and the form factor of the clamshell model is excellent. It fits in my pocket with my phone, and I can pop it open, write some code, compile it, or actually write a document without having to mess with touch screen input. Unfortunately Android got really popular really quickly and they released what is basically an Android version called the IS01, then that didn't sell well and the whole thing kind of disappeared. I'm hoping they release a new version at some point, maybe with a multi-core ARM processor, but I'm not holding my breath.
Now if I could dual boot a phone or had just a straight Ubuntu phone option with a stylus and writing recognition (and a little pocket bluetooth keyboard) I'd be very, very happy.
That link should be added to the bottom of the story. It's worth it just for the response.
I'm not trying to make a case for it but legalization means it's taxable and can be regulated. If people are going to do it anyway may as well make money off of it, and it's not like the effects are worse than alcohol so the reasons they give to keep it illegal are kind of moot.
*Side note: I've never smoked it.