non-pixmap themes (such as ThinIce) are just as fast as stock gtk+. It's just that most themes are pixmap-engine based themes, and the pixmap engine is slow.
Check out developer.gnome.org. It's still being updated but has quite a bit of information and resources.
NS is a good alternate to NS
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A couple weeks ago just for kicks I downloaded Netscape 2.0x. WOW. It was so fast. Unfortunately,/. and freshmeat rendered horribly. So I tried 3.04 and have been using it ever since. Some pages don't render completely right, but I am more than happy with the speed and memory usage improvements that I've gotten.
I heard (rumor, probably checking mailing lists will verify/discount) that this is going to be something similar to the paperclip, at least initially for kde's control center.
Interesting... I've always considered Caldera to be going for corporate desktops (net ware tools/support, other things I can't remember right now) more than Red Hat.
I had a simmilar experience. Since finding the nograd (hand of god) theme a year or so ago, I switched from AfterStep to E (0.13). I then switched to 0.14 (much more stable) until I started using CVS 0.15. Anyway, a week or so ago I decided that I should give Window Maker another try, since it seems to be pretty popular. I'm sorry to say that:
a) opaque moves are SLOW b) no opaque resize c) I couldn't turn the root menus off to use gmc d) desktop switching refreshes are slower too e) no titlebars-on-the-side for terminals
Big deal, right? I dunno, these things fit my current usage style.
This is being talked about a bit, it is more of a GTK+ thing than GNOME. There are problems with using this and sloppy/mouse focus though...
Wow, that must of taken a lot of work...
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...as does GNOME.
The press release says so at least. Except for SCO; it might, might not.
Gnome is for sysadmins - not home users
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Do you really think people with such an agenda (originally to kill KDE) really care about usability from the perspective of a non-nerd who may want to use Linux to do the things most computer users want a desktop environment for?
Yes, they do. Usability is discussed all of the time on mailing lists and irc.
I have been running GNOME for almost a year. The commenter said that NO code worked, and this isn't the case since many many people (including me) are using it every day.
What in particular didn't compile? I know for a fact there is working code, since I am running it (and have been for months). Did you read some (of the little) documentation that is included with gnome? Maybe try checking the mailing list archives for people with a similar problem.
Anyway, did you read that the person said they were HAPPY with WM and an xterm? Why must you force KDE (or GNOME if you had said that) upon them? If that is what you use and prefer, that is great for you; use it.
But don't try and tell someone, who at least gave GNOME a (small?) chance, that they should use KDE just because it is there. I am sure they have looked into it.
Try running configure with the --disable-nls flag (on every GNOME package). I don't know if it says that anywhere, but that's how I finally got GNOME compiled on my Slackware system back at GNOME 0.13 or 0.20.
* Did I mention turning gtk themes off?
non-pixmap themes (such as ThinIce) are just as fast as stock gtk+. It's just that most themes are pixmap-engine based themes, and the pixmap engine is slow.
A lot of people are finding sawmill to be a very nice GNOME wm.
Check out developer.gnome.org. It's still being updated but has quite a bit of information and resources.
A couple weeks ago just for kicks I downloaded Netscape 2.0x. WOW. It was so fast. Unfortunately, /. and freshmeat rendered horribly. So I tried 3.04 and have been using it ever since. Some pages don't render completely right, but I am more than happy with the speed and memory usage improvements that I've gotten.
(I wanted someone to comment on KOffice before I said anything)
On the Gnome side of things, progress is being made. Bonobo (the CORBA-ized component model) is nearing an initial (developer) release.
A Guppi Bonobo component is being added to Gnumeric (which is looking nice these days) to enable charts. This might also make it into Genius.
Go is being Bonobo-ized also, and (I hear) is pretty usable.
And work is being done on a nice mailer too.
I heard (rumor, probably checking mailing lists will verify/discount) that this is going to be something similar to the paperclip, at least initially for kde's control center.
Interesting... I've always considered Caldera to be going for corporate desktops (net ware tools/support, other things I can't remember right now) more than Red Hat.
I had a simmilar experience. Since finding the nograd (hand of god) theme a year or so ago, I switched from AfterStep to E (0.13). I then switched to 0.14 (much more stable) until I started using CVS 0.15. Anyway, a week or so ago I decided that I should give Window Maker another try, since it seems to be pretty popular. I'm sorry to say that:
a) opaque moves are SLOW
b) no opaque resize
c) I couldn't turn the root menus off to use gmc
d) desktop switching refreshes are slower too
e) no titlebars-on-the-side for terminals
Big deal, right? I dunno, these things fit my current usage style.
So it was back to E for me.
This is being talked about a bit, it is more of a GTK+ thing than GNOME. There are problems with using this and sloppy/mouse focus though...
...as does GNOME.
The press release says so at least. Except for SCO; it might, might not.
Do you really think people with such an agenda (originally to kill KDE) really care about usability from the perspective of a non-nerd who may want to use Linux to do the things most computer users want a desktop environment for?
Yes, they do. Usability is discussed all of the time on mailing lists and irc.
No, I am not a moron.
I have been running GNOME for almost a year. The commenter said that NO code worked, and this isn't the case since many many people (including me) are using it every day.
Sorry to dissappoint.
What in particular didn't compile? I know for a fact there is working code, since I am running it (and have been for months). Did you read some (of the little) documentation that is included with gnome? Maybe try checking the mailing list archives for people with a similar problem.
Wow, that was a very witty and clever response.
Anyway, did you read that the person said they were HAPPY with WM and an xterm? Why must you force KDE (or GNOME if you had said that) upon them? If that is what you use and prefer, that is great for you; use it.
But don't try and tell someone, who at least gave GNOME a (small?) chance, that they should use KDE just because it is there. I am sure they have looked into it.
yeah
Umm, you can hide the pager.
That's been in there as long as I can remember (before 0.13?)
Keep it a secret, but GNOME 1.0 _is_ versioned 1.0.1, at least for many of the packages.
libgtk.so.2.0.0 would refer to GTK+ 2.0, not 1.2
Someone aske d about this on the GNOME mailing lists a while ago.
Try running configure with the --disable-nls flag (on every GNOME package). I don't know if it says that anywhere, but that's how I finally got GNOME compiled on my Slackware system back at GNOME 0.13 or 0.20.