What about software tools designed for Linux admins? Oh wait this is slashdot right, I forgot fundamentally religious some asses can be about their choice of OS.
I'm not sure what happened to soft serve ice cream that I used to buy as a kid, but I bought one from an ice cream van recently and the thing didn't melt. In the middle of summer, 30 deg it just sat there on the cone in it's original form. It tasted horrible and so carried it around with me, and after 30 minutes it was still there in one piece.
Nowhere does it say it is 100% beef, it is made from 100% beef. Take 100% beef, add 100% salt and 100% MSG, and 100% other stuff. You now know how marketing works.
Who cares? What's to stop someone from manufacturing bags of tiles with the revised scoring on them and selling them on eBay for $5 a pop? I play a bit of Scrabble and I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in a new variation.
Interesting. I took it to mean that you have a plate full of dinner (meat and vege etc) that you want heated?
I can't understand how manufacturers can get it so wrong. I'm no expert on the subject of UI or UX (or maybe I am and just don't know it) but every day I come across WTF moments with products where I think, what monkey thought that was a good idea?
Wow, how many accidents are you having/witnessing? I've been driving 25 years and never ever required a camera for either my own driving or anyone else's? I think they're a great idea but I'm not sure how much use the average person would get out of one.
Er, I didn't say I'm 20 years old, I said I've been using MS Office for that long (and Office is only 23 years old itself).
In that 20 years I've had no issues with file format lock-in with MS Office products, so I'd love to hear examples of anyone who has and how that happened.Lock-in seems to be a common argument used by OSS fans, but the reality doesn't match the FUD (ie MS is closed source, you could be locked out of your data!!!)
I would say being incompatible with open formats is a big one.
My car isn't an open format either why is this different?
If.doc and.docx work without issue, and they do for most of the world, why is important to normal people?
So far your argument has come across weak.
Oh well we'll have to agree to disagree. Unfortunately for you the world seems to not share your ideological position on file format openness.
Have you tried to open a docx in your old office at some point?
Yes, I used Word 2003 until last year without issue. Certainly less issues than I've had trying to make OO/LO do half the features that Word does out of the box.
Or an old mdb file in a newer access?
Yes again. Access 2010 prompted me if I wanted to upgrade the DB to the newer format and it did it automatically and just worked.
Or an encrypted doc in the atrocity called "Starter Edition" that they have the nerve to ship with many OEM computers. Please do try and come back to tell me how great MS Office is.
I've never used Starter Edition, nor I have even seen it being used in any business I've worked with (hundreds of them)
So to summarise my original point, can you provide examples of ever being locked out of an MS file?
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Please explain how it is "locked in"? I've been using Office for nearly 20 years and never been "locked out" any of my documents. You are able to save as other open formats if that's your thing, and even if you save as.doc or docx, there is nothing preventing you from retrieving your saved files. The BCP argument is pretty weak to the point that it is completely invalid.
Lol I can only assume that the business you work for has a turnover of about $100, since if it was more than that the cost of an MS license is trivial and not even worth thinking about.
Depends what you mean by 'better'. If you have a bunch of apps that only run on MSSQL the it wins by default.
You can argue it shouldn't be this way but in the corporatey back-office IT world, this is how it is.
This is problem with too much theory and not enough practice. Go have a couple of dozen fights and get back to me which striking method is the most effective. I'll save you the effort and pain, it's punching. Nothing else has the speed, power, range and versatility. That's why people who aren't in movies punch each other in fights, because it works. The open palm strike is just martial arts bullshit. A punch is better because you can jab, hook and uppercut with it. An open palm severely limits your strike options.
A lot of martial arts is mostly about choreography (although the newer MMA is a bit more practical). Go hang out in a working class bar for a bit and watch how a street fighter wins. A quick, hard punch will bring down most guys, even black belts without too much fuss. I've seen it happen more times than I care to remember, I've even seen a friend kill a man with one punch. So save that martial arts guff for the movies, in primitive times a good puncher would have enough skills to lead his tribe and rule all the lands that he could see.
Agreed expert fighters (read killers not showmen or sportsmen) don't resort to punching as their first means of downing their oponents. Your elbow is far superior to your fist.
Yeah so is a round house kick, the problem of course is that you can't deliver anything as quickly or with the range as a punch. Kicks are too slow and awkward (you miss you get knocked out), Elbows require you to be within punching range which you then get knocked out before you get your first strike. Same goes for head butts, knees or anything else you care to mention. I've seen hundreds of street fights in my time, and a guy who knows how to punch will win every time (even against weapons).
A punch still works better than the alternative (which is what exactly?) You don't always have a rock on you, and I'd question whether any weapon is as versatile unless you really know how to use it. I grew up in a tough neighbourhood, and knowing how punch people quickly brought you to the top of the food chain because you can have the ability to execute at any time at a moment's notice. Weapons never really give you that same level of confidence or intimidation.
To beat any incumbent you need to offer better products. MS isn't just a Windows desktop, it's the server, terminal services, AD, DNS, DHCP, Exchange, SQL, IIS,.Net, Sharepoint and a whole hoard of other stuff that works, and works nicely together with very little effort. As much as the Linux fanbase would this not be true, there is no linux solution that even comes close to this. Sure you could cobble together a bit of this and a bit of that that sort does something similar, but it takes 10x as much effort, only has 1/2 as many features, and is a nightmare to support or troubleshoot when it breaks (or a new guy comes onboard and has to figure out your homebrew mess you created.
A Windows Server Data Center Edition license (licensed per socket on the hardware) allows unlimited Windows server VMs (Standard, Enterprise or Data Center). This may have changed with 2012, I haven't looked at that licensing yet.
Terminal Services is a different license however you wouldn't run a Domain Controller as a Terminal Server so not so revelant in this context.
I could go on with hours of fragments of information and complaints on the situation and I'm sure the grass is green here in many ways
Nowhere is perfect, but if we pay a little more for stuff but don't have to worry as much about being murdered by some idiot with automatic weapons then I'll take that:)
I thought the second amendment was a typo, they really meant the right to bare arms. The summers in the south got mighty warm and the original settlers wanted to ensure they could wear singlets without fear of persecution
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What about software tools designed for Linux admins? Oh wait this is slashdot right, I forgot fundamentally religious some asses can be about their choice of OS.
Any two (male + female) idiots can create a life.
Yeah but the qualification to be God-like is to do it without any of the same species in existence.
I'm not sure what happened to soft serve ice cream that I used to buy as a kid, but I bought one from an ice cream van recently and the thing didn't melt. In the middle of summer, 30 deg it just sat there on the cone in it's original form. It tasted horrible and so carried it around with me, and after 30 minutes it was still there in one piece.
Nowhere does it say it is 100% beef, it is made from 100% beef. Take 100% beef, add 100% salt and 100% MSG, and 100% other stuff. You now know how marketing works.
Who cares? What's to stop someone from manufacturing bags of tiles with the revised scoring on them and selling them on eBay for $5 a pop? I play a bit of Scrabble and I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in a new variation.
That's why many cloud services offer sync services so you can keep a local copy (ie Dropbox). Cloud 1, FUD 0.
Where do you work? Can I have a job?
Interesting. I took it to mean that you have a plate full of dinner (meat and vege etc) that you want heated?
I can't understand how manufacturers can get it so wrong. I'm no expert on the subject of UI or UX (or maybe I am and just don't know it) but every day I come across WTF moments with products where I think, what monkey thought that was a good idea?
What. The. Fuck.
Personally I thought that was really funny, but how did anyone anywhere think that would be acceptable for a public commercial?
Wow, how many accidents are you having/witnessing? I've been driving 25 years and never ever required a camera for either my own driving or anyone else's? I think they're a great idea but I'm not sure how much use the average person would get out of one.
Er, I didn't say I'm 20 years old, I said I've been using MS Office for that long (and Office is only 23 years old itself). In that 20 years I've had no issues with file format lock-in with MS Office products, so I'd love to hear examples of anyone who has and how that happened.Lock-in seems to be a common argument used by OSS fans, but the reality doesn't match the FUD (ie MS is closed source, you could be locked out of your data!!!)
I would say being incompatible with open formats is a big one.
My car isn't an open format either why is this different? If .doc and .docx work without issue, and they do for most of the world, why is important to normal people?
So far your argument has come across weak.
Oh well we'll have to agree to disagree. Unfortunately for you the world seems to not share your ideological position on file format openness.
Have you tried to open a docx in your old office at some point?
Yes, I used Word 2003 until last year without issue. Certainly less issues than I've had trying to make OO/LO do half the features that Word does out of the box.
Or an old mdb file in a newer access?
Yes again. Access 2010 prompted me if I wanted to upgrade the DB to the newer format and it did it automatically and just worked.
Or an encrypted doc in the atrocity called "Starter Edition" that they have the nerve to ship with many OEM computers. Please do try and come back to tell me how great MS Office is.
I've never used Starter Edition, nor I have even seen it being used in any business I've worked with (hundreds of them) So to summarise my original point, can you provide examples of ever being locked out of an MS file? .
Please explain how it is "locked in"? I've been using Office for nearly 20 years and never been "locked out" any of my documents. You are able to save as other open formats if that's your thing, and even if you save as .doc or docx, there is nothing preventing you from retrieving your saved files. The BCP argument is pretty weak to the point that it is completely invalid.
Lol I can only assume that the business you work for has a turnover of about $100, since if it was more than that the cost of an MS license is trivial and not even worth thinking about.
Depends what you mean by 'better'. If you have a bunch of apps that only run on MSSQL the it wins by default. You can argue it shouldn't be this way but in the corporatey back-office IT world, this is how it is.
This is problem with too much theory and not enough practice. Go have a couple of dozen fights and get back to me which striking method is the most effective. I'll save you the effort and pain, it's punching. Nothing else has the speed, power, range and versatility. That's why people who aren't in movies punch each other in fights, because it works. The open palm strike is just martial arts bullshit. A punch is better because you can jab, hook and uppercut with it. An open palm severely limits your strike options.
A lot of martial arts is mostly about choreography (although the newer MMA is a bit more practical). Go hang out in a working class bar for a bit and watch how a street fighter wins. A quick, hard punch will bring down most guys, even black belts without too much fuss. I've seen it happen more times than I care to remember, I've even seen a friend kill a man with one punch. So save that martial arts guff for the movies, in primitive times a good puncher would have enough skills to lead his tribe and rule all the lands that he could see.
Agreed expert fighters (read killers not showmen or sportsmen) don't resort to punching as their first means of downing their oponents. Your elbow is far superior to your fist.
Yeah so is a round house kick, the problem of course is that you can't deliver anything as quickly or with the range as a punch. Kicks are too slow and awkward (you miss you get knocked out), Elbows require you to be within punching range which you then get knocked out before you get your first strike. Same goes for head butts, knees or anything else you care to mention. I've seen hundreds of street fights in my time, and a guy who knows how to punch will win every time (even against weapons).
A punch still works better than the alternative (which is what exactly?) You don't always have a rock on you, and I'd question whether any weapon is as versatile unless you really know how to use it. I grew up in a tough neighbourhood, and knowing how punch people quickly brought you to the top of the food chain because you can have the ability to execute at any time at a moment's notice. Weapons never really give you that same level of confidence or intimidation.
To beat any incumbent you need to offer better products. MS isn't just a Windows desktop, it's the server, terminal services, AD, DNS, DHCP, Exchange, SQL, IIS, .Net, Sharepoint and a whole hoard of other stuff that works, and works nicely together with very little effort. As much as the Linux fanbase would this not be true, there is no linux solution that even comes close to this. Sure you could cobble together a bit of this and a bit of that that sort does something similar, but it takes 10x as much effort, only has 1/2 as many features, and is a nightmare to support or troubleshoot when it breaks (or a new guy comes onboard and has to figure out your homebrew mess you created.
A Windows Server Data Center Edition license (licensed per socket on the hardware) allows unlimited Windows server VMs (Standard, Enterprise or Data Center). This may have changed with 2012, I haven't looked at that licensing yet. Terminal Services is a different license however you wouldn't run a Domain Controller as a Terminal Server so not so revelant in this context.
I could go on with hours of fragments of information and complaints on the situation and I'm sure the grass is green here in many ways
Nowhere is perfect, but if we pay a little more for stuff but don't have to worry as much about being murdered by some idiot with automatic weapons then I'll take that :)
I thought the second amendment was a typo, they really meant the right to bare arms. The summers in the south got mighty warm and the original settlers wanted to ensure they could wear singlets without fear of persecution
The way VMs are licensed these days, you license the hardware and you get unlimited VMs. ie additional MS servers cost you zero license fees