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Your Hands Were Made For Punching According To New Study
They are capable of delicate surgery, creating beautiful works of art, and comforting someone feeling down, but according to a new study your hands evolved to smash someone in the face. From the article: "Human hands evolved so that men could make fists and fight, and not just for manual dexterity, new research finds.
The study, published in the Journal of Experimental Biology, adds to a growing body of evidence that humans are among the most aggressive and violent animals on the planet.
'With the notable exception of bonobos, great apes are a relatively aggressive group of mammals,' lead author David Carrier told Discovery News. 'Although some primatologists may argue that chimpanzees are the most aggressive apes, I think the evidence suggests that humans are substantially more violent.''"
Not for jacking off?
Now I know why I have the urge to punch stupid people in the face.
Was it for punching foes, or was it for punching the ground before bipedalism became the norm? Orangutans, for example, walk on their fists.
Then arms were made for masturbation. Otherwise why would they not be that length? If they were made for punching, they would be very much longer to minimize the risk to oneself from an attacker. Hands were then made for masturbation as well, otherwise why put them at the end of the perfect length of arm?
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Context is important. Violence is not ubiquitous. See this:7 Things Bonobos Can Teach Us About Love and Sex
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201202/7-things-bonobos-can-teach-us-about-love-and-sex
From years of boxing this couldnt be more obvious.
Your hands will fracture, break, bend, and sometimes emulsify... Especially the forefinger middle knuckle and the top pinky knuckle = 'the boxer break.' Over and over.
But each time calcifying over and becoming stronger. After a while you literally have 'hands of stone.'
Now of course my dexterity isnt what it used to be. Typing and fumbling for computer screws reminds me of my favorite pastime often.
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We were living in a peaceful vegetarian world, munching on salad until the bronze age. Of course, all evidence for this was wiped out by the evil patriarchy.
Your hands are full of very small bones. It's very easy to break your hand by punching something hard and dense (such as a skull or face for instance).
If you want to strike someone in the face, it's smarter to use other parts of the body such as your knee, elbow or to use an open hand strike (such as a palm strike). That way you have the edge of a very long bone delivering the blow.
Palaces, barricades, threats, meet promises
Although some primatologists may argue that chimpanzees are the most aggressive apes, I think the evidence suggests that humans are substantially more violent.
Set the chimps down in front of a few Windows systems and we'll see...
[ Sorry, just finished working on my Windows 7 system and reading the recent Windows 8 thread and am feeling a little violent. ]
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
And that's just what they'll do
SMASH!!!!
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Oh yeah? I bet he wouldn't say that to my face!
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mishandling relatively short, small diameter, objects reminds you of your favourite pastime ............ just ewwww
Well, I guess somebody has to go against the flood of neurological research showing that humans tend greatly towards the altruistic. "Fists, yeah, that's the ticket. People are inherently violent, and so we're justified being bad to them, because they need to be controlled." Augustine of Hippo called - he wants his Original Sin back.
Troll "research" is troll.
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Humans are gradually getting less violent. Chimps and other relatives of ours are still more violent. You don't measure violence in how many kills one person had the potential and means to create, that is partly based on intelligence, and it also goes into proportions. Second is coverage, sure we see dozens of racial hate crimes in humans for every Chimpanzee lynching, but the odds of an individual chimpanzee taken at random being killed by his own race, is significantly higher than the odds of any one human being murdered. Statistically humans are dwindling down in violence per capita, we just are more aware of every instance, and individual instances are much larger.
After reading the article I believe the authors of the study have graphically demonstrated that their hands are best suited for masturbating.
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More quality research from the Chuck Norris Institute of Bodily Harm. I predict the findings of their next study will either focus on the advantages of delivering a roundhouse kick while wearing jeans.
Yes, they were.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Now when I get in trouble for punching someone, I can tell them it's natural, and part of my evolutionary nature. I was born this way.
http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/2/236.full
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mishandling relatively short, small diameter, objects reminds you of your favourite pastime ............ just ewwww
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The monkey speaks his mind
And three monkeys sat in a coconut tree
Discussing things as they are said to be
Said one to other now listen, you two
“There’s a certain rumour that just can’t be true
That man descended from our noble race
Why, the very idea is a big disgrace, yea”
No monkey ever deserted his wife
Starved her baby and ruined her life
Yea, the monkey speaks his mind
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To leave her babies with others to bunk
And passed them on from one to another
‘Til they scarcely knew which was their mother
Yea, the monkey speak his mind
And another thing you will never see
A monkey build a fence around a coconut tree
And let all the coconuts go to waste
Forbidding other monkeys to come and taste
Why, if I put a fence around this tree
Starvation would force you to steal from me
Yea, the monkey speaks his mind
Here’s another thing a monkey won’t do
Go out on a night and get all in a stew
Or use a gun or a club or a knife
And take another monkey’s life
Yes, man descended, the worthless bum
But, brothers, from us he did not come
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Total horse shit. 1 in 1000 humans have an instinct for effective punching. The rest need lots of training. Hell; most humans would never think of aligning their radius with their pointer/middle knuckles and would instead use their ulna and pinky knuckles. Typical shoulder theatrics would also make it irrelevant either way, as cordial notifications are conducive to landing strikes. No sir. Aint havin' none of it. Stick with fish slapping.
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I believe the command is touch /dev/clit
Liam Neeson will be glad to hear this news as he decides what to punch next.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2012/01/25/145837558/what-should-liam-neeson-punch-next
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This line is the only thing that I can find in the article that even slightly resembles evidence suggesting that the hand actually evolved for that purpose, but it seems to make the flawed assumption that since a part of our body is better at doing X one particular way than another, perhaps more natural or obvious way, then the act of doing X must have been the most dominating factor in determining the way that body part evolved, ignoring the significance, or lack thereof, of the benefit it might offer compared to the benefits offered because of other attributes. I would personally suggest that while it may be true that part of the hand's evolution could be attributed to hitting (I believe it was more for self-defense than it was actually being violent), the evolutionary advantage of the human hand for grasping and utilizing objects to do what we will with them almost certainly far outweighs that.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
If you need proof of our violent nature, just go shopping on Black Friday.
Could they explain why the middle finger is the longest? I guess it evolves faster in recent times...
It's above the b and below the g and h.
So, they tried using their hands in every possible way and found out that the best they could do was punch each other?
Whithout a means to cut their nails very short I highly doubt primitive people could ever make a fist to actually punch something.
It was great when Chimp Team Six took out Bin Laden!
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There. I've said it.
Bonobos are actually just as violent as every other ape on the planet.
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These hands are made for punching And that's just what all do One of these days these hands are....
I find the arguments put forward by the authors of the study rather unconvincing. Once you have an opposable thumb, pretty much anything you can grab on the ground is a better weapon that your fist. Rock anyone?
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It seems the article is more saying that our thumbs have evolved in a manor that allows us to fold it into our hand like our other fingers to protect it (which happens to be useful when fighting). I suspect this evolution was more about being able to grip something than it was about fighting.
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Your hands will fracture, break, bend, and sometimes emulsify... Especially the forefinger middle knuckle and the top pinky knuckle = 'the boxer break.' Over and over.
Yeah, see this is why I'm immensely skeptical of the article. If we were evolved for punching, then why are we so fucking terrible at it? You don't see these kinds of injuries in most animals that use their natural weapons. Those that use bludgeoning weapons or dull piercing weapons like horns or antlers have serious muscular and bone reinforcement in the area with fewer joints and more fused bone. On the other hand, the other animals that keep their natural weapons on fine manipulators rely on cutting damage that requires significantly less force. Punching is just about the stupidest way to attack there is.
It's pretty clear our hands are evolved for the use of weapons like spears rather than for slamming into things. We are tool users. Hell, it's probably a good part of why we're able to get away with being so weak compared to chimpanzees, who don't use tools in combat.
Yes, humans are violent, we should all loathe ourselves and feel bad about being human, let's all kill ourselves and/or just go back to living in caves and apologize to all the innocent creatures we had to kill to get to the top of the food chain where we could wantonly destroy the Earth.
Blah blah blah.
More leftist self-loathing bullshit.
..but as a man i shudder to think what would happen if porn, sports & light entertainment didn't exist.
Men are inherently violent and that is neither good or bad it just is. As are almost all male mammals who don't even hide it but flaunt it.
They tell ya, 'Never hit a man with a closed fist.' But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
that punching was made for our fists instead? If we had evolved with swords for arms, no doubt this article would say our arms were made for swordfighting.
There are far far better designs if all you wanted was a weapon. Like getting rid of these brittle fingers that you are just as likely to break as the thing you are punching. And/or adding some claws or horns.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
We have opposable thumbs.
Human fists are a very ineffective weapon. Most animals have claws, sharp teeth or horns for fighting, a fist is nothing compared to that. If a human had a cagefight with a chimpanzee, my bet would not be on the human. Fists aren't even much help against a defenceless animal: a wolf can bite a sheep's neck off within a minute, but beating a sheep to death would be a long, tiresome and painful procedure for a human.
And my fingers have evolved to submit trollish comments. In journalism, such a headline is called "if it bleeds it leads".
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"Human hands evolved so that men could make fists and fight"
What about women then..?
Think about it. Would you rather punch someone, or would you rather pick up a big heavy club and beat someone with it? Yes, we're violent, but we can do so much more with improved dexterity than a simple punch, even with the crudest tools.
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Gorillas and chimpanzees walk on their "knuckles", or on their medial phalanges. Orangutans walk on their fists, or on their proximal phalanges. I thought Wikipedia's article about knuckle-walking made this clear.
From Wikpedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation
"Evolutionary utility
Masturbation may increase fertility during intercourse. A 2009 Australian study found daily ejaculation to be an important factor in sperm health and motility.
Female masturbation alters conditions in the vagina, cervix and uterus, in ways that can alter the chances of conception from intercourse, depending on the timing of the masturbation. A woman's orgasm between one minute before and up to 45 minutes after insemination favors the chances of that sperm reaching her egg. If, for example, she has had intercourse with more than one male, such an orgasm can increase the likelihood of a pregnancy by one of them. Female masturbation can also provide protection against cervical infections by increasing the acidity of the cervical mucus and by moving debris out of the cervix.
In males, masturbation flushes out old sperm with low motility from the male's genital tract. The next ejaculate then contains more fresh sperm, which have higher chances of achieving conception during intercourse. If more than one male has intercourse with a female, the sperm with the highest motility will compete more effectively.
Health and psychological effects
Benefits
It is held in many mental health circles that masturbation can relieve depression and lead to a higher sense of self-esteem.[41] Masturbation can also be particularly useful in relationships where one partner wants more sex than the other – in which case masturbation provides a balancing effect and thus a more harmonious relationship"
Humans are only more violent because we stopped using our fists and turned to alternative weapons. If we all had to stand in the middle east dessert and punch each other to death, I don't think it would take very long for people to get tired of it and just go home.
It is obvious to me that hour hands were evolved to pick up rocks and sticks and then either wield them as weapons or throw them.
Making a fist is something we do as a last resort when we are unarmed.
Given what happened in Newtown a week ago, I'd say humans are even more violent than chimps. Its especially true since we've created tools for being violent efficiently and quickly.
Razor-sharp and that go through meat like warm butter. Seems only fair that we have better blunt bashers.
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I, like another poster here (dreamchaser -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3322527&cid=42320943 ), have "polydactyl" 6 toed cats (4 of them, 1 male, 3 female - the male is just like his, almost a clone in fact -> http://i.imgur.com/NjdkT.jpg , only front paws that way, like his late now deceased mother, & the females have them on all 4 feet...)
Yes, just like Ernest Hemmingway did (he favored them, & even setup a "habitat" of sorts for them to THIS VERY DAY):
They display AMAZING dexterity!
E.G.-> They "grab" things no differently than you or I do in fact, where other normal footed cats, cannot... it is truly something to see!
However, my point?
An opposable thumb (which we too have along with other primates) ALLOWS FOR TECHNOLOGY imo... eventually @ least (Of course, also providing the brain evolves enough & the need presents itself as well).
* Yes, it helps them in fights too... extra "blades" on each paw... & a LARGER heavier one to strike blows with!
E.G./I.E.-> It is amazing how much MORE "striking power" the 6 toed cats have, vs. ordinary cats (of which I have those too). You can hear a "thud"/"thump" when the pop other cats in the head... lol!
It was the same with a feral cat my family adopted in the 80's too... same extra striking force, AND, the ability to literally hold objects as we do.
It is hilarious watching them pickup food & put it to their mouths, when the other cats, cannot, in fact.
APK
P.S.=> As dreamchaser called them? LMAO - "Felis Catus Erectus" (I would've used "polydactus", but the point's there)...
... apk
All of these things fit in your anus, therefore, your anus was created to carry things.
http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/2/236.full.pdf+html
Perhaps instead of punshing a sand bag they should ask some guys who do martial arts?
First of all: most apes fight. Chimps go to war, kill enemy tribes and take the "wemon" prisoner or rape them.
When Chimps or Bonoboes fight, then the question is: do they fight or do they ritually test their strength? Like in fighting for a better rank in the hierarchy.
Hirarchy or ritual fights are done with fists, just like humans do.
Fighting to kill are done with open hands, just like martial artists do. (Martial artists also use "very special" fist forms, which you don't test on sand bags)
Gorrillas on the other hand don't fight at all. They use fists for ritual fights. However in those cases only the challanger is attacking and the older one is ignoring him and accepting his blows. The winner is determined by "who has the patience to accept the outbreak of the otherone". In other words the gorrila that is turning his back to the attacker an let him beat the back is usually winning, and the attacker simply gives up when his steam is gone.
No primate is fighting with fists to kill ... (if an ape likes to kill he mainly uses his teeth anyway, and struggeling during the fight easily ends in broken limbs or litteraly teared out arms)
So imho the whole research article is utter nonsense.
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Deer, or more precisely, stags, have horns so they can have their tremendous mating battles. Pachycephalosaurus had half of its skull hard bone, because they liked to smash their heads together. If you punch someone in the face, you'll be lucky if you don't break something in your hand. It's quite clear that hands did not evolve for punching. If they did, they'd be made of something very, very hard.