Now I can download them for free which eliminates much of the issues.
Except that instead of simply offering episode downloads, ABC (or someone on their behalf) spent heavily on a framework making sure you could "watch" over the internet but not "store" what you see. (Okay, the framework isn't perfect, but little in this life is when you get right down to it...)
In other words, you still only get to watch the episodes they want you to watch at any given time, and you can't go back and watch something later after they've pulled it. Not to mention you can't full-screen it, run it in your own application viewer or store it off to a small device for later offline viewing.
Watching a few commercials for free content seems like a fair trade. Not being able to actually *use* the content makes things really really rediculously crippled. I'm not sure I've seen such a gigantic gold-plated turd before...
Gamers...are the reason people won't switch from Microsoft.?
Ya, actually that's one of the few things the AC parent said I agree with.
Gamers probably are the main reason no one switches off of MS's OS platform. Of course, I don't necessarily agree about the whole SUV/100 miles thing. They're actually a lot more like motorbikers ruining acres of forest, or maintaining it as the case may be.
Games are the next television. They're here and they aren't going away. Of course IMHO the question isn't how to get people to quit playing games on the most powerful/feasible platform available (because they won't quit), rather how to get them to make more sensible decisions...
Also, the grandparent is assuming that every letter is useful (there is no noise). This need not be the case, and you could easily create messages with multiple possible meanings.
Nothing like writing an encryption scheme that leaves your enemies thinking they know the answer when really it is quite different.
Microsoft has two economically successful products. Windows and Office. As long as at least one of those continues to sell the way it has been, they'll remain in business. Of course, assuming that's a foregone conclusion is just silly.
How does one dual with another lightsaber bearer then? Using nanites as you describe, the sabers would cut through each other.
Na, the nanites sense danger in letting the other saber get to (and cut) their master, so the two nanite blades block each other....
Of course, why all the nanites don't just swarm the other guy is beyond me... Maybe they get their power from that bright beam and can't operate outside of it's cone of effect. (Of course, that should mean the light-sabers blades look more like a yagi antenna's emmission pattern, but I digress)
And, god forbid, they made sure people knew this, in public.
I'm just saying if you've got an agenda, you might as well own up to that fact. (Nothing wrong with pushing GLTB friendliness in a reasonable way, but the OP was claiming there was no agenda, which just doesn't ring true to me.)
Heck, even I've got an agenda here, which is to get people to quit lying about their agendas (to themselves and others).
You know what I hate? Watching rules and laws created and enforced based on someone's determination of who is and isn't "hateful" while ignoring the actual actions of those involved.
If you kill someone, it's murder.
If you kill someone because they're gay, black, white, Muslim, Christian, fat, stupid, bigoted, or politically correct, it's still murder.
Same goes for slander, stealing, assault, verbal abuse, and every other detrimental thing one person can do to another.
Realities: Humans beings often hate various things and groups as well as each other. Humans play World of Warcraft. The worst thing you can do to someone *inside* World of Warcraft is harass them.
My point? Shit's gonna happen. I'm glad the CEO pulled his head out long enough to realize they made a mistake categorizing some speech, but I doubt he'll figure out these are bordering on determinations that we may never be able to usefully make as a species.
Note: I really hope they don't start putting the word hate in their terms of use in more places. (2 is more than enough thought-crime mentality thank you!)
I rather doubt this group goes around shouting pro-gay slogans on public channels; no, they probably talk to each other within their gay-friendly group about life, the universe and everything with little concern for promoting anything beyond civility to each other. No agendas, no secret meetings, its a friggen guild on WoW who's members are not hostile towards gays.
If this is true, how come we're here talking about it. Did a GM snoop in on their private meetings and then post a story to Slashdot or something?
Well the information got out somehow, and this whole argument appears to boil down to how tight the closet door should be from that point onward...
What is that really though? Is it self-censorship to avoid saying "fag"? Or is it a meta-cussword representing any nasty thing you could imagine. If it's the latter it's actually a lot more offensive than just spelling something out (like fag). (This is similar to the fact that fear of the unknown is often much worse than fear of something concrete.)
Of course, maybe it makes sense you'd be offended by the unknown obsenities your mind conjuers in the dark even if no wordly word can achieve such an end. Or, maybe you think the OP just needs to pull a plug out...
If they need toys why don't they go play corewar or life? Or just read some jargon?
It's not like there's a lack of toys out there if you're willing to look a little... Of course, getting that initial spark going can be a little more difficult.
I'm paying for high speed access that's around 500K/S downstream and 75k/S upstream.
Ouch! 75k/s upload! (I assume that's bits not bytes) that's painfully slow!
In any case, my point was ISP's could simply go back to charging for how much you actually use the connection, rather than solely on what the connection maxes out at. That might curb some of the excess usage, without requiring all this "texturing" nonesense.
What is Historic Use? I've never heard that term before, but it sounds deliberately misleading and designed to mess with the whole copyright debate. (a quick google reveals something by the EFF about it here)
As a community of individuals who believe in freedom, we should be very careful about furthering such terms (ie: making use of them) since it only lends them power.
I'd much rather see this thing die now than have to sit down at the dinner table a year from now and discuss the relative merits of "Historic Use" and "Fair Use" with my aging mother while at the same time explaining there's absolutely nothing historic about "customary historic use".
I think the ISPs are going to have to deal with their own success and open the spigots a bit wider; we *are* paying for our bandwidth, let us get to it.
Ya, or they should just grow up and use a sane scheme of metering/bandwidth caps. I don't think we'd ever have gone to "unlimited" service in the first place if AOL and friends hadn't charged huge prices per hour for dialup.
April 21: AOL lowers prices from $7.95 for two hours a month plus $6 for each additional hour to $9.95 for five hours a month and $3 for each additional hour.
Wow!! $3 an hour for dialup! What a great deal!
Just charge $2 per Gigabyte transferred (above some reasonable monthly cap, say 20 gigs a month if you're paying $60/mo for broadband) and be done with it. Just make sure to update the costs often enough that people aren't racking up hundreds of dollars in charges. (Say, give bulk discounts to anyone going over their normal monthly subscription cost, and make sure less than 2% of users are in that category.)
Note to gamers: World of Warcraft (for example) takes 10 megs or less an hour to play. If you were somehow logged in and active 24/7 for a 30 day month that'd be 7.2 gigs of data. You'd still be able to download 13 gigs of pr0n that month.
Normalize the diffs based on the similarities between the multiple file copies, and voila! Instant un-watermarked file.
Either that or you get one file which clearly points at two different sources, both of which become culpable. If the watermarks are persistant and redundant enough perhaps this would work for n diffed copies up to a fairly high value of n.
The question is, can the algorithm remain secret (or robust?) enough that no one understands how to completely destroy all watermarks in a given file. Further, what good is it knowing the source when they might have been an unwitting dupe.
Taken as a whole, though, your utopia looks (to me) like a Bizzarro-world where the greatest producers in the society would be ground under the heels of the largely-mediocre masses.
So you're saying standing up to a bully makes you a bully? My guess is the bullies are the ones who withdraw from social situations when they get their butts kicked. People who make friends with the butt-kickers and become stronger from the experience sound more like the mice missing this gene.
I guess this goes to show, sometimes not being able to learn something is a good thing.
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Now I can download them for free which eliminates much of the issues.
Except that instead of simply offering episode downloads, ABC (or someone on their behalf) spent heavily on a framework making sure you could "watch" over the internet but not "store" what you see. (Okay, the framework isn't perfect, but little in this life is when you get right down to it...)
In other words, you still only get to watch the episodes they want you to watch at any given time, and you can't go back and watch something later after they've pulled it. Not to mention you can't full-screen it, run it in your own application viewer or store it off to a small device for later offline viewing.
Watching a few commercials for free content seems like a fair trade. Not being able to actually *use* the content makes things really really rediculously crippled. I'm not sure I've seen such a gigantic gold-plated turd before...
Gamers...are the reason people won't switch from Microsoft.?
Ya, actually that's one of the few things the AC parent said I agree with.
Gamers probably are the main reason no one switches off of MS's OS platform. Of course, I don't necessarily agree about the whole SUV/100 miles thing. They're actually a lot more like motorbikers ruining acres of forest, or maintaining it as the case may be.
Games are the next television. They're here and they aren't going away. Of course IMHO the question isn't how to get people to quit playing games on the most powerful/feasible platform available (because they won't quit), rather how to get them to make more sensible decisions...
Also, the grandparent is assuming that every letter is useful (there is no noise). This need not be the case, and you could easily create messages with multiple possible meanings.
Nothing like writing an encryption scheme that leaves your enemies thinking they know the answer when really it is quite different.
Microsoft has two economically successful products. Windows and Office. As long as at least one of those continues to sell the way it has been, they'll remain in business. Of course, assuming that's a foregone conclusion is just silly.
*taps calendar*
I think this thing must be off by 5 days or so...
How does one dual with another lightsaber bearer then? Using nanites as you describe, the sabers would cut through each other.
Na, the nanites sense danger in letting the other saber get to (and cut) their master, so the two nanite blades block each other....
Of course, why all the nanites don't just swarm the other guy is beyond me... Maybe they get their power from that bright beam and can't operate outside of it's cone of effect. (Of course, that should mean the light-sabers blades look more like a yagi antenna's emmission pattern, but I digress)
That has to be the funniest thing I've heard in a long time!
And, god forbid, they made sure people knew this, in public.
I'm just saying if you've got an agenda, you might as well own up to that fact. (Nothing wrong with pushing GLTB friendliness in a reasonable way, but the OP was claiming there was no agenda, which just doesn't ring true to me.)
Heck, even I've got an agenda here, which is to get people to quit lying about their agendas (to themselves and others).
The very lucky among us have done that and not had it suck the fun out of said activity.
Wow! Have you actually met someone like that??!!
You know what I hate? Watching rules and laws created and enforced based on someone's determination of who is and isn't "hateful" while ignoring the actual actions of those involved.
If you kill someone, it's murder.
If you kill someone because they're gay, black, white, Muslim, Christian, fat, stupid, bigoted, or politically correct, it's still murder.
Same goes for slander, stealing, assault, verbal abuse, and every other detrimental thing one person can do to another.
Realities:
Humans beings often hate various things and groups as well as each other.
Humans play World of Warcraft.
The worst thing you can do to someone *inside* World of Warcraft is harass them.
My point? Shit's gonna happen. I'm glad the CEO pulled his head out long enough to realize they made a mistake categorizing some speech, but I doubt he'll figure out these are bordering on determinations that we may never be able to usefully make as a species.
Note: I really hope they don't start putting the word hate in their terms of use in more places. (2 is more than enough thought-crime mentality thank you!)
I rather doubt this group goes around shouting pro-gay slogans on public channels; no, they probably talk to each other within their gay-friendly group about life, the universe and everything with little concern for promoting anything beyond civility to each other. No agendas, no secret meetings, its a friggen guild on WoW who's members are not hostile towards gays.
If this is true, how come we're here talking about it. Did a GM snoop in on their private meetings and then post a story to Slashdot or something?
Well the information got out somehow, and this whole argument appears to boil down to how tight the closet door should be from that point onward...
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What is that really though? Is it self-censorship to avoid saying "fag"? Or is it a meta-cussword representing any nasty thing you could imagine. If it's the latter it's actually a lot more offensive than just spelling something out (like fag). (This is similar to the fact that fear of the unknown is often much worse than fear of something concrete.)
Of course, maybe it makes sense you'd be offended by the unknown obsenities your mind conjuers in the dark even if no wordly word can achieve such an end. Or, maybe you think the OP just needs to pull a plug out...
Well, yeah. Ninjas have REAL ULTIMATE POWER. What do pirates have that can compete with that?
Booze and booty. I mean, once you have REAL ULTIMATE POWER what are you going to use it to get anyways??!
And what kind of name is witlog? It's like cunningpoop, or something.
I guess he doesn't want people to think he's a dumbshit.
(Sorry, but you all know it had to be said!)
If they need toys why don't they go play corewar or life? Or just read some jargon?
It's not like there's a lack of toys out there if you're willing to look a little... Of course, getting that initial spark going can be a little more difficult.
They might block C14L1S adds, but you're probably going to see a lot more WalMart mailers if you're an AOL user...
Personally, I almost prefer the penis enlargement adds.
I'm paying for high speed access that's around 500K/S downstream and 75k/S upstream.
Ouch! 75k/s upload! (I assume that's bits not bytes) that's painfully slow!
In any case, my point was ISP's could simply go back to charging for how much you actually use the connection, rather than solely on what the connection maxes out at. That might curb some of the excess usage, without requiring all this "texturing" nonesense.
What is Historic Use? I've never heard that term before, but it sounds deliberately misleading and designed to mess with the whole copyright debate. (a quick google reveals something by the EFF about it here)
As a community of individuals who believe in freedom, we should be very careful about furthering such terms (ie: making use of them) since it only lends them power.
I'd much rather see this thing die now than have to sit down at the dinner table a year from now and discuss the relative merits of "Historic Use" and "Fair Use" with my aging mother while at the same time explaining there's absolutely nothing historic about "customary historic use".
Ya, or they should just grow up and use a sane scheme of metering/bandwidth caps. I don't think we'd ever have gone to "unlimited" service in the first place if AOL and friends hadn't charged huge prices per hour for dialup.
Wow!! $3 an hour for dialup! What a great deal!
Just charge $2 per Gigabyte transferred (above some reasonable monthly cap, say 20 gigs a month if you're paying $60/mo for broadband) and be done with it. Just make sure to update the costs often enough that people aren't racking up hundreds of dollars in charges. (Say, give bulk discounts to anyone going over their normal monthly subscription cost, and make sure less than 2% of users are in that category.)
Note to gamers: World of Warcraft (for example) takes 10 megs or less an hour to play. If you were somehow logged in and active 24/7 for a 30 day month that'd be 7.2 gigs of data. You'd still be able to download 13 gigs of pr0n that month.
Normalize the diffs based on the similarities between the multiple file copies, and voila! Instant un-watermarked file.
Either that or you get one file which clearly points at two different sources, both of which become culpable. If the watermarks are persistant and redundant enough perhaps this would work for n diffed copies up to a fairly high value of n.
The question is, can the algorithm remain secret (or robust?) enough that no one understands how to completely destroy all watermarks in a given file. Further, what good is it knowing the source when they might have been an unwitting dupe.
Heh, I was thinking of the guy you were replying to... :-/ My dad used to live there and complained that he was supporting 3 families with his income.
Wouldn't this require some pretty smart programmers?
Where's Microsoft going to find those?
Taken as a whole, though, your utopia looks (to me) like a Bizzarro-world where the greatest producers in the society would be ground under the heels of the largely-mediocre masses.
Maybe someone needs to move to California?
No. People are bullied because they are easy targets. That's the kind of target bullies choose.
You became one of them, in a way.
So you're saying standing up to a bully makes you a bully? My guess is the bullies are the ones who withdraw from social situations when they get their butts kicked. People who make friends with the butt-kickers and become stronger from the experience sound more like the mice missing this gene.
I guess this goes to show, sometimes not being able to learn something is a good thing.