Actually, I'd like two smaller ones. Zoltar's mistake in Battle of the Planets was that he always launched a different attack each week with one city destroying robot. G-Force would show up, and save the day. What he should have done was save up for two weeks, build *two* robots, and let them loose on opposite sides of the Earth. With only one G-Force, one has to succeed!
So, one for Redmond, and one for... let's say somewhere where lots of IP lawyers and media cartel execs hang out.
So what does he do with it? Answer: like most true geeks, on accumulating more wealth and power due to a massive inferiority complex.
Has anyone ever even *heard* of poor old billg having any fun with all that money?
Okay, he might be working on the clone thing. Except, of course, they'll be so slow, liable to freezing up, susceptible to viruses, and busy try to catch up with the features the *other* clones had since the seventies (like being able to think about more than one thing at once), that they won't be all that effective.
To all the die-hard C programmers who refuse to make the Linux kernel C++ compatible because they are using variable names such as "new"
It's because the kernel is written in C, not C++. They are two different languages. There is no such language as "C/C++".
I will use public, new, and private as much as I like in C. This will only get worse with C99, which thankfully diverges completely in many ways from C++, so that the whole "C is a subset of C++" rubbish is now officially dead. It never was true, but now it's easier to explain to the slow and lazy.
earnest hemingway is regarded as one of the greatest writers of all time, yet his writing is simple and very straightforward. most ages can read the book and understand the story. all ages may not get a deeper meaning out of the stories, but they can read it just the same...
No, I like simple and straightforward. What I can't stand is talking *down* to the reader. I couldn't tolerate it as a child, and the first Harry Potter book does this big time.
30+ year old men and women who need to big words and obscure references to feel smarter than everyone else
Ironically enough, I assumed that was what the "depth" in HP was going to turn out to be... obscure references that only an English Lit major would "get".
Basically, the first book pushed all the wrong buttons with me - obviously written for children, predictable, and patronizing to boot!
*Spoilers HERE BE SPOILER DRAGONS *
And then there was the ending, where *suddenly* HP's chapter (or whatever) suddenly wins the in-school competition. *That* put me off, big time. What's the point of following all the endless side plots into point-scoring during the games and study and so forth, if the author is just going to reach into the book at the end and make whoever they like "win" at the end? Lam0r!
You need to have some depth to appreciate HP, as a child or adult
Really? I read the first book due to all the hype, and found it to be predictable and aimed at a reading and comprehension level I would have found insulting even as a child.
But then, I never liked "childrens" books even as a child. Far too patronizing, and that irritated me about HP, too.
First of all good luck finding a buggy whip manufacturer who will let you have all the designs at a reasonable price (I sure as hell wouldn't let you near them). Designing buggy whips is an art as is making them. If you want new buggy whips after the buggy whip manufacturer is dead the rigths pass onto the buggy whip manufacturer's heir. When they move it stays with the buggy whip manufacturer and if you want new buggy whips you can ask also for a form that lets you get copies made of the buggy whip (not the hardest thing to get ahold of). If they are out of business same deal. There are laws that stipulate how to go about this procress and it hasn't changed much since it was created.
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The problem is, of course, that no one *gives* a flying fuck about buggy whips any more. So, I'm not paying some leech to do a "cp source target" for me. The end. You need a new, workable, un-leechlike business model.
And yes, soon enough the quality of digital will be indistinguishable. It's hard enough now, unless you're making money by *telling* people about the difference that they can't actually see...
And in the sense of Unix in general, because real programmers and admins need a powerful, flexible, well thought out operating environment, and not "clippy the paper clippy" to work productively.
Can you *please* read the fucking moderator guidelines? I was not off-topic, and if you disagree with my *opinion*, you should reply, not moderate. Who knows, I might enjoy a debate, and we all might learn something. Unless you can't hold up your end, of course - but that would explain your preference for mod-ing down, I guess.
Go on, mod me down some more, I don't care, but it won't detract from the fact that you are an intellectual coward.
Having sampled much of the "anniversary" rubbish currently being run instead of news in papers, on website and on television, I've noticed the most important *new* story has been missed.
That is, the massive public backlash against this over-wrought, corporatized, media-hyped grieving period. Everyone I know, even people who usually suck at their various media feeds like a crack pipe, are one and all rejecting the media hype surrounding this "event", and doing their own thing to remember in a dignified fashion.
I've never seen anything quite like it, such a broad rejection of mass-media values and corporate mandated "feelings time" - and of course there's not one mention of "people expressing disdain for media exploitation of grief" anywhere to be found on the "news"...
Nah, I'll just stick with SOAP::Lite for Perl, as it does SOAP (the full spec, despite the lite tag) and XML-RPC, is free as in speech *and* beer, and will integrate with everything from databases through to HTTP and more esoteric stuff like LDAP with zero effort as it's Perl, and there's a CPAN module for *everything*.
SOAP's so, well, simple, I don't see how people expect to make money off "web services platforms". At least for Python and Perl, it's done already! Game over, man:)
Yes, indeed. If web services are the answer, what was the question?
It's telling how few response there have been to this (now the 3rd on/. so it's not new) story, even taking into account the time of day in the US.
I can't imagine the thinking behind things like SOAP - "XML is a good markup language - let's use it as an on-the-wire protocol!". Reminds me of the humorous "implementing TCP/IP in XML" article a while back. People shouldn't write these articles, as other people get silly ideas from them!
The bodies of the thousands of innocent civilians who died (and will die) in these unprecedented events could give a good god damn about grid computing
It's highly unlikely the *bodies* of these people care about anything.
And "unprecendented"? Really? 2800 deaths is tragic, but hardly unprecendented. Get some perspective, and turn your television off, please.
The souls of the victims are watching in horror as you people squander your finite, precious time on this earth playing video games!
Their souls aren't doing anything either, as there is clearly no such thing. As for wasting time - isn't the lesson that we should enjoy our time while we have it? How many of those people died because they went back to work instead of evacuating?
I think, if anything, they would want people *not* to waste their lives endlessly flagellating themselves at the behest of the media...
And the guy ran. Guess I wasn't all that pathetic or ignorant after all. Negative, I agree with - I'm always skeptical about stupid ideas.
Ah well, I was hoping someone could defend Windows and the like, as I really don't know any programmer who likes it. There must be some, somewhere. I can't explain it's popularity on the server otherwise, but there wasn't one single intelligent reply. Perhaps they're all just sysadmins with no real coding background, and they like NT as it looks like the thing the learned to play minesweeper on. Who knows?
And yet you're the one about to whine. Here we go:
I'm sick of reading your pathetic, negative, uninformed comments littering this thread
Too bad.
Since you don't have the intelligence to refute them you whine and swear. I'm sure that went down well in special ed class, but I'm afraid you're just going to have to try a bit harder.
Just fuck off back under your rock and die
I can see why you're bitter. I have to port my code to Windows all the time, and it's truly completely broken. I asked management if we could employ someone who *liked* Windows to do this work, but they wouldn't do it, as it would mean lowering the entry standards, and if you do that once, it tends to be a downward spiral. Couldn't argue with that!
It's because everyone kicks the Perl programmer with the dull-witted "write only language" FUD so much that we relish the chance to kick someone else, in turn!
Really, I think PHP fills a useful niche, and if it can take some of the load of "how do I make my shopping cart work" questions from comp.lang.perl.misc, then I'd be happy. I'm suprised there's not yet a "standard" web application programming language (and by that I mean a high-level domain specific language - Java, or Perl for that matter, are *way* short of the mark) that all kinds of people that are more interested in just getting some fairly common web-app up and running without having to learn too much programming can use - maybe PHP will become it eventually!
I think from a Perl programmer's POV the problem with PHP is this: it's a web application language. I use Perl *extensively*, and I've yet to write a single program that has anything directly to do with HTTP. I use it for XML, text munging, C code generation, automated testing, LDAP, CORBA, SOAP, number crunching and so on. I hear PHP's got decent DB integration, but are the tiny pool of PHP coders really going to be able to provide support for all the non-Web tasks like mine? Probably not, and that's fine. Like I said, there's probably room for languages that are task-specific (look at Excel, and Emacs Lisp) that just solve one problem without worrying too much about trying to be all things to all people.
Perhaps that's something for companies to consider. Every place I've worked, large and small, has had some Perl working away in the background in some capacity - from humble one-off tasks like formatting the odd bit of text through to being the driver for the automated test framework or managing the corporate web infrastructure.
We seem all too willing to throw money at licenses for Office, but my team uses Perl in many interesting, fun and labour saving ways every single day - even though ostensibly we're coding in C. I think I might make a case to my manager on Monday that a small donation has *already* paid for itself...
they'll tell you strait up, "we're a m$ shop, how do you feel about that"
I'd tell them straight out that it indicates a dangerously low level of computing-related education, a high level of incompetence, poor business sense, and a disregard for their customers - and that I'd really rather work for smarter people, thanks.
But the chances that I'd be interviewing for a job where some bean-counter who is proud of their ignorance is setting the technical requirements are close to zero, anyhow.
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C'mon, it's what we've all wanted forever ...
... let's say somewhere where lots of IP lawyers and media cartel execs hang out.
Actually, I'd like two smaller ones. Zoltar's mistake in Battle of the Planets was that he always launched a different attack each week with one city destroying robot. G-Force would show up, and save the day. What he should have done was save up for two weeks, build *two* robots, and let them loose on opposite sides of the Earth. With only one G-Force, one has to succeed!
So, one for Redmond, and one for
... or two!
So what does he do with it? Answer: like most true geeks, on accumulating more wealth and power due to a massive inferiority complex.
Has anyone ever even *heard* of poor old billg having any fun with all that money?
Okay, he might be working on the clone thing. Except, of course, they'll be so slow, liable to freezing up, susceptible to viruses, and busy try to catch up with the features the *other* clones had since the seventies (like being able to think about more than one thing at once), that they won't be all that effective.
To all the die-hard C programmers who refuse to make the Linux kernel C++ compatible because they are using variable names such as "new"
It's because the kernel is written in C, not C++. They are two different languages. There is no such language as "C/C++".
I will use public, new, and private as much as I like in C. This will only get worse with C99, which thankfully diverges completely in many ways from C++, so that the whole "C is a subset of C++" rubbish is now officially dead. It never was true, but now it's easier to explain to the slow and lazy.
I think watching Starship Troopers would be an effective intelligence test
If you like it, you have no intelligence?
Forget about the book, watch the movie again
I did *both* recently. The book was better this time. The movie has aged *very* badly, and it wasn't so hot to start with.
earnest hemingway is regarded as one of the greatest writers of all time, yet his writing is simple and very straightforward. most ages can read the book and understand the story. all ages may not get a deeper meaning out of the stories, but they can read it just the same...
... obscure references that only an English Lit major would "get".
No, I like simple and straightforward. What I can't stand is talking *down* to the reader. I couldn't tolerate it as a child, and the first Harry Potter book does this big time.
30+ year old men and women who need to big words and obscure references to feel smarter than everyone else
Ironically enough, I assumed that was what the "depth" in HP was going to turn out to be
Basically, the first book pushed all the wrong buttons with me - obviously written for children, predictable, and patronizing to boot!
*Spoilers HERE BE SPOILER DRAGONS *
And then there was the ending, where *suddenly* HP's chapter (or whatever) suddenly wins the in-school competition. *That* put me off, big time. What's the point of following all the endless side plots into point-scoring during the games and study and so forth, if the author is just going to reach into the book at the end and make whoever they like "win" at the end? Lam0r!
You need to have some depth to appreciate HP, as a child or adult
Really? I read the first book due to all the hype, and found it to be predictable and aimed at a reading and comprehension level I would have found insulting even as a child.
But then, I never liked "childrens" books even as a child. Far too patronizing, and that irritated me about HP, too.
So, where's all this "depth" then?
To paraphrase:
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First of all good luck finding a buggy whip manufacturer who will let you have all the designs at a reasonable price (I sure as hell wouldn't let you near them). Designing buggy whips is an art as is making them. If you want new buggy whips after the buggy whip manufacturer is dead the rigths pass onto the buggy whip manufacturer's heir. When they move it stays with the buggy whip manufacturer and if you want new buggy whips you can ask also for a form that lets you get copies made of the buggy whip (not the hardest thing to get ahold of). If they are out of business same deal. There are laws that stipulate how to go about this procress and it hasn't changed much since it was created.
-----
The problem is, of course, that no one *gives* a flying fuck about buggy whips any more. So, I'm not paying some leech to do a "cp source target" for me. The end. You need a new, workable, un-leechlike business model.
And yes, soon enough the quality of digital will be indistinguishable. It's hard enough now, unless you're making money by *telling* people about the difference that they can't actually see
We're lucky he's even bilaterally symetrical.
No, *Lois* is lucky.
Why does anyone need sun Microsystems anymore?
Because we *don't* like to reboot each week.
And in the sense of Unix in general, because real programmers and admins need a powerful, flexible, well thought out operating environment, and not "clippy the paper clippy" to work productively.
To the anonymous moderator:
Can you *please* read the fucking moderator guidelines? I was not off-topic, and if you disagree with my *opinion*, you should reply, not moderate. Who knows, I might enjoy a debate, and we all might learn something. Unless you can't hold up your end, of course - but that would explain your preference for mod-ing down, I guess.
Go on, mod me down some more, I don't care, but it won't detract from the fact that you are an intellectual coward.
Having sampled much of the "anniversary" rubbish currently being run instead of news in papers, on website and on television, I've noticed the most important *new* story has been missed.
...
That is, the massive public backlash against this over-wrought, corporatized, media-hyped grieving period. Everyone I know, even people who usually suck at their various media feeds like a crack pipe, are one and all rejecting the media hype surrounding this "event", and doing their own thing to remember in a dignified fashion.
I've never seen anything quite like it, such a broad rejection of mass-media values and corporate mandated "feelings time" - and of course there's not one mention of "people expressing disdain for media exploitation of grief" anywhere to be found on the "news"
Advertising on /.?
:)
Nah, I'll just stick with SOAP::Lite for Perl, as it does SOAP (the full spec, despite the lite tag) and XML-RPC, is free as in speech *and* beer, and will integrate with everything from databases through to HTTP and more esoteric stuff like LDAP with zero effort as it's Perl, and there's a CPAN module for *everything*.
SOAP's so, well, simple, I don't see how people expect to make money off "web services platforms". At least for Python and Perl, it's done already! Game over, man
Yes, indeed. If web services are the answer, what was the question?
/. so it's not new) story, even taking into account the time of day in the US.
It's telling how few response there have been to this (now the 3rd on
I can't imagine the thinking behind things like SOAP - "XML is a good markup language - let's use it as an on-the-wire protocol!". Reminds me of the humorous "implementing TCP/IP in XML" article a while back. People shouldn't write these articles, as other people get silly ideas from them!
"unprecendented"
I mean "unprecedented"! I was pissed off, and typing fast, and I did it *twice*. Fuck.
The bodies of the thousands of innocent civilians who died (and will die) in these unprecedented events could give a good god damn about grid computing
...
It's highly unlikely the *bodies* of these people care about anything.
And "unprecendented"? Really? 2800 deaths is tragic, but hardly unprecendented. Get some perspective, and turn your television off, please.
The souls of the victims are watching in horror as you people squander your finite, precious time on this earth playing video games!
Their souls aren't doing anything either, as there is clearly no such thing. As for wasting time - isn't the lesson that we should enjoy our time while we have it? How many of those people died because they went back to work instead of evacuating?
I think, if anything, they would want people *not* to waste their lives endlessly flagellating themselves at the behest of the media
I will now announce the following uses for web services in alphabetical order:
* Making your broadband connection perform like a dial-up (thanks to XML).
That is all, thank you.
</german accent>
Obviously, you're not.
How ironic.
"You're post exhibits your lack of grammar."
Jesus Fucking H. Christ!! You *stupid* monkey!
That is wrong. This is correct:
"Your post exhibits your lack of grammar, and you're a stupid monkey."
Get it?
Call me troll, but the mis-use of "your" bugs the crap out of me
Well, this reply may have been a very subtle troll - it's hard to credit, otherwise.
And the guy ran. Guess I wasn't all that pathetic or ignorant after all. Negative, I agree with - I'm always skeptical about stupid ideas.
Ah well, I was hoping someone could defend Windows and the like, as I really don't know any programmer who likes it. There must be some, somewhere. I can't explain it's popularity on the server otherwise, but there wasn't one single intelligent reply. Perhaps they're all just sysadmins with no real coding background, and they like NT as it looks like the thing the learned to play minesweeper on. Who knows?
"Television - teacher, mother, secret lover!"
-- Homer J. Simpson.
Just shut the fuck up you whiny little bitch
And yet you're the one about to whine. Here we go:
I'm sick of reading your pathetic, negative, uninformed comments littering this thread
Too bad.
Since you don't have the intelligence to refute them you whine and swear. I'm sure that went down well in special ed class, but I'm afraid you're just going to have to try a bit harder.
Just fuck off back under your rock and die
I can see why you're bitter. I have to port my code to Windows all the time, and it's truly completely broken. I asked management if we could employ someone who *liked* Windows to do this work, but they wouldn't do it, as it would mean lowering the entry standards, and if you do that once, it tends to be a downward spiral. Couldn't argue with that!
It's because everyone kicks the Perl programmer with the dull-witted "write only language" FUD so much that we relish the chance to kick someone else, in turn!
Really, I think PHP fills a useful niche, and if it can take some of the load of "how do I make my shopping cart work" questions from comp.lang.perl.misc, then I'd be happy. I'm suprised there's not yet a "standard" web application programming language (and by that I mean a high-level domain specific language - Java, or Perl for that matter, are *way* short of the mark) that all kinds of people that are more interested in just getting some fairly common web-app up and running without having to learn too much programming can use - maybe PHP will become it eventually!
I think from a Perl programmer's POV the problem with PHP is this: it's a web application language. I use Perl *extensively*, and I've yet to write a single program that has anything directly to do with HTTP. I use it for XML, text munging, C code generation, automated testing, LDAP, CORBA, SOAP, number crunching and so on. I hear PHP's got decent DB integration, but are the tiny pool of PHP coders really going to be able to provide support for all the non-Web tasks like mine? Probably not, and that's fine. Like I said, there's probably room for languages that are task-specific (look at Excel, and Emacs Lisp) that just solve one problem without worrying too much about trying to be all things to all people.
Perhaps that's something for companies to consider. Every place I've worked, large and small, has had some Perl working away in the background in some capacity - from humble one-off tasks like formatting the odd bit of text through to being the driver for the automated test framework or managing the corporate web infrastructure.
...
We seem all too willing to throw money at licenses for Office, but my team uses Perl in many interesting, fun and labour saving ways every single day - even though ostensibly we're coding in C. I think I might make a case to my manager on Monday that a small donation has *already* paid for itself
But the smuggest of all would be saying that Linux is almost as lame, and they should clearly be considering FreeBSD. ;)
Can't you read?
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I wouldn't be applying for such jobs, as they would be beneath me both technically and intellectually.
Unlike you, my choice isn't between deadshit Windows work or pizza delivery. Learn VB in 1998, did we? Time to get that degree
they'll tell you strait up, "we're a m$ shop, how do you feel about that"
I'd tell them straight out that it indicates a dangerously low level of computing-related education, a high level of incompetence, poor business sense, and a disregard for their customers - and that I'd really rather work for smarter people, thanks.
But the chances that I'd be interviewing for a job where some bean-counter who is proud of their ignorance is setting the technical requirements are close to zero, anyhow.