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Keanu Reeves as Superman

M.C. Hampster writes "Fox News is reporting in this article that Superman is back in the planning stages at Warner Bros. with a possible Keanu Reeves playing the title role. Is this possibly the worse fit for an actor in a superhero role since Michael Keaton in Batman?" Perhaps they too will rotate in a new actor for each feature.

481 comments

  1. Uh......Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    was the best for the part of batman, i thought.

    1. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by PogiTalonX · · Score: 0

      I agree. I thought he played the role best.

    2. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by King+of+the+World · · Score: 1
      "Is this possibly the worse fit for an actor in a superhero role since Michael Keaton in Batman?"
      Ooh you bitch.
    3. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by alch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Micheal Keaton was good for Batman because he could pull off a better Bruce Wayne. Any idiot can play "Batman".

    4. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by lpcustom · · Score: 1

      Keaton was good but Kilmer was better. As far as Reeves playing superman...please somebody kill him before he gets the chance. He sucks majorly at every role he's ever played. Just because his last name sounds like the greatest superman actor ever doesn't make him qualified for it!

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    5. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The editors are the best trolls here!

    6. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by Webphisher · · Score: 1

      Ya, Michael Keaton was the only choice for Batman that fit. However I think that Mister Monotone would be a horrible choice for Superman. Go back to Nicolas Cage for the role.

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    7. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any many did.... What other actor made you think he was somewhat disturbed and haunted by it. Val just wanted to look nice and smile and cloon looked like an actor wanting to play a person who was playing like he wasn't batman...yuck

    8. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by JMYoda · · Score: 1

      I didn't like Keaton because he needed fake rubber muscles (and fake rubber boobs apparently!!) to be Batman. Kilmer should have been a good Batman but he was too stiff. At least Christopher Reeves (who will always be the definitive Superman) and Tobey Maguire went to a gym and started working out instead of using fake muscles. Heck WB wanted to put fake muscles on Chris Reeves but he told him it would be like lying to the kids who will see the film and he couldn't do that so he called up Dave Prowse (Yes the man behind Vader's mask) to pump him up. He's was a class act then and he's a class act now. I just hope he walks again. Dammit now I'm all weepy...

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    9. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by blitziod · · Score: 1

      I totally agree with this. He was great for Tim Burton's batman. That was a darker batman. I think Alec Baldwin in the Shadow( or anything else he sucks). George clooney for batman, yuck.

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    10. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by slickwillie · · Score: 2

      You fuckwad...the real batman has fake rubber muscles (and "manboobs" as well).

      Christhopher Reeves the "definitive Superman"? I will always thing of George Reeves as the real one, even if he did duck when the bad guy ran out of bullets and threw his gun.

    11. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by JMYoda · · Score: 1

      "Fuckwad"? What are you twelve? You know it is possible to disagree with someone and even reply without flaming right? Which is why I have no intention of flaming you back. I've done nothing to you and said nothing that you should find offensive so a little common courtesy would be appreciated or you will find people won't want to discuss things with you. (And isn't discussion the whole point of a forum?)

      However I must ask, did you ever read the pre-1989 comics or watch the various animated series based on the look of those comics? (Or see the 40s serial and cheesy 60s TV show) Batman's original costume was the same as Superman's, just tights with an emblem. No rubber chest plate with fake muscles and man-boobs. Those came in with Tim Burton (what a surprise!)

      Even the more recent comics are suppose to be his real muscles, not falsies (look at (http://www.geocities.com/lightning_bug808/Bats06. jpg) even if they are overstated (all superheroes are these days, heck they even did it in the Battlestar Galactica comics!)

      I recommend you go to a good comic-con and ask one of the artists if you don't believe me. Since Batman has no super powers he has only his natural strength and fighting abilities to rely on (and whatever is on his utility belt.) So the comic book Batman has real muscles. If he didn't have real muscles (like Keaton didn't) he couldn't even take on a rowdy little league hockey team much less several bad guys at once. The fake chest plate is in the movies only.

      BTW there is no "real Batman", he's a made-up character created by Bob Kane (God rest his soul!) You know that right? :)

      Peace,
      -Yoda

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    12. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fuckwad!

    13. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought he played the best batman, keannu doesn't seem to be the right guy for superman though. oh well, maybe he'll prove us wrong

    14. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by SerpicoWasTaken · · Score: 1

      In these situations, I prefer the word dickweed. I find that all to often the word dickweed is forgotten in our fast-paced, work-a-day world. It's easy to throw out a word like "fuckwad" and think you are hot stuff. However, if you would have used dickweed, you would have been the man. So, to anyone who reads this post, lets bring back dickweed.

    15. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

      micheal keaton was easily the best. val kilmer came off as batman with a rod jammed up his ass, and george clooney was batman on prozac ... happy all the time ... bruce wayne must have started popping the pills when he parents got killed.

    16. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by Forge · · Score: 2

      Michael Keaton was a horible BatMan.

      1st of all. Batman is soposed to be HUGE. According to to the DC Who's Who, he is 6'4" and 240 LBs. In other words the same size as Swarseneger in his prime (After "Commando" and before "End of Days"). What's wrong with a skiny Batman? His costume is supposed to be simple soft cloth. Except for the belt, gloves and boot. The Vinyl body armor on Micheal Keaton looks extreamly and obviusly fake.

      Also, he has a voice that's soposed to strike fear into the hearts of scum. MK's high pitched Selean Deion soundalike voice dosn't do it. Also his accent is soposed to be a little off too.

      Is it like a family thing? Superman has to be "Reaves"? OK. So They arn't related. Big deal.

      The key is to have the screan hero look like the comic book character and convincingly cary off the personality as writen.

      The marvel people seem better at this. I.e. Spiderman is great and the whole Xmen team is beliveble.

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    17. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by slickwillie · · Score: 2

      You are absolutely correct - dickweed would have been the choice. I apologize. I will also try not to read slashdot after mixing too much Guinness with too much red wine.

    18. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by jeraflea · · Score: 1

      Keaton was the best fit. Did you actually watch the others?

    19. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by HishamMuhammad · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes, everyone I know says Keaton was the best of all Batmen in the movies. BUT, that's very different than being a good Batman.

      I think that any of the fans of the classic "graphic novels" such as "Batman: Year One" and "The Dark Knight" [*] were very disappointed by the way Batman was portrayed in the movies (including the first one). Especially given that his image was so unjustly treated in the TV series and cartoons.

      When I watch the original "Batman" movie, what I see is a "Tim Burton movie", not a "Batman movie". Its atmosphere ends up having more to do with other Tim Burton movies like "Sleepy Hollow" than with the Batman from the great aforementioned comics.

      That's a problem with those superstar directors, I assume. Similarly, a Woody Allen movie is always "a Woody Allen movie", no matter what the movie is about.

      [*] I assume those were the names in English, I read the Portuguese translations.

    20. Re:Uh......Michael Keaton by Rakarra · · Score: 1
      As far as Reeves playing superman...please somebody kill him before he gets the chance.

      Agreed. I remember just cringing when I heard way back when that he was lobbying hard for the role of Aragorn in the Lord of the Rings movies.

      He sucks majorly at every role he's ever played.

      Hey, Bill and Ted seemed to work well for him.

  2. Umm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you retarded?

    Keaton WAS batman, it was a perfect fit.

    1. Re:Umm. by paterthorn · · Score: 1

      Yeah at least he wasnt cross-eyed(Kilmer) or in the biggest disgrace in recent hollywood(Clooney in BM&R)

    2. Re:Umm. by foistboinder · · Score: 1

      Yeah at least he wasnt cross-eyed(Kilmer) or in the biggest disgrace in recent hollywood(Clooney in BM&R)

      To be fair, the script for BM&R was so lousy that nobody could have pulled it off. One can only blame Clooney for accepting the job.

    3. Re:Umm. by PogiTalonX · · Score: 0

      Nah.. Clooney had penis envy of Michael Keaton.

    4. Re:Umm. by Kwikymart · · Score: 2

      Ummmm... Adam West was Batman!

      Pow! Zap! Bif!

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    5. Re:Umm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LMAO

      however this joke is a bit too old for the
      12 year old crowd that lurks this place..

    6. Re:Umm. by jimbo · · Score: 1

      Ahh yes, the *real* Batman :-) With a *real* beer-belly and the Bat Anti Shark Spray.

      Oh does memories come floating in now, he couldn't get poisoned because he consumed 12 takings of milk every morning! Maybe it was a milk-belly.

  3. they ruined it. by 601 · · Score: 0, Troll

    that's it. they ruined superman.

    1. Re:they ruined it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really think they should throw a cape on good 'ol Christopher and do some stuff with computer animation.

    2. Re:they ruined it. by roxbox · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Coward wrote:

      >

      Speaking of the consummate Superman, here's some good news about Christopher Reeve.

  4. Best Said... by rosewood · · Score: 4, Funny

    Woah

    1. Re:Best Said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Metropolis High School football rules!!!!

    2. Re:Best Said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      W.T.Woodson, Go Cavaliers GO GO GO!!!

    3. Re:Best Said... by vandemar · · Score: 2

      Lois: What color is my underwear?

      Superman: Whoa!

    4. Re:Best Said... by KUHurdler · · Score: 1

      I think it was 'San Demos High School Football Rules'

      Party on Bill
      Party on Ted

      Excellent

      That was the climax of Keanu Reeves acting career in my opinion.

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  5. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suck onto my penis.
    Good bitch.
    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
    Yeah.

  6. Mickael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey I liked Michael Keaton in Batman!

  7. Matrix Final Scene by chill · · Score: 2

    Some schmuck from Warner Bros. must've been smoking something when watching the final scene in The Matrix.

    Neo zooms off into the sky with the coat flapping like a cape and the lightbulb goes off. Hey! He looks just like Superman!

    Say... there's an idea!

    NOT!

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    1. Re:Matrix Final Scene by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

      Face it, Hollywood is bankrupt on ideas.

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    2. Re:Matrix Final Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, keanu was probably smoking some exec's cock to get the part

    3. Re:Matrix Final Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be serious - every schmuck from Warner Bros. was smoking something during the final scene in The Matrix - that's how it was meant to be seen.

    4. Re:Matrix Final Scene by TandyMasterControl · · Score: 2
      Good - you noticed something is really odd, as in goofy, about that the last frames of Matrix. Most people probably don't. The reasons the Wachowskis chose to end it that way have nothing to do with plotting or with blutz. The reason can be heard in the lyrics of the song editted over the scene :

      Wake Up (first stanza) -by Rage Against the Machine

      Come on!
      Uggh!
      Come on, although ya try to discredit
      Ya still never edit
      The needle, I'll thread it
      Radically poetic
      Standin' with the fury that they had in '66
      And like E-Double I'm mad
      Still knee-deep in the system's shit
      Hoover, he was a body remover
      I'll give ya a dose
      But it'll never come close
      To the rage built up inside of me
      Fist in the air, in the land of hypocrisy

      As Neo flies up into the sky -that's out at the screen and the audience- with his fist leading the way, the movie closes on the last bars of Wake Up, and Zach DeLa Rocha screaming WAKE UP !!!

      Unfortunately, despite the fist and the screaming they rarely do.

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    5. Re:Matrix Final Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've just delved into the mind of your average producer/director type. Something tells me George Lucas saw Alec Guiness with a beard and a tunic in Quo Vadis and it gave him an idea, too. The fact that so many actors get typecast goes to show you how unimaginative some of these people are, though. The fact that a actor of the likes of Keanu gets so much work also illustrates that point.

  8. Best of Both Worlds... by Rob.Mathers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe they'll create a new super-character! Think about it, SuperNeo would have no weaknesses! "There is no kryptonite."

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    1. Re:Best of Both Worlds... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact, kryptonite was his weakness, but a boy said to him : "There is no kryptonite". Then he realized everything was in his mind

  9. hmmm by blank_coil · · Score: 1

    Is this possibly the worse fit for an actor in a superhero role since Michael Keaton in Batman?

    Most people I've talked to thought he played the best Batman. Oh, and about Keanu, isn't he Hawaiiian? And isn't Superman white? I'm not racist or anything, but I just thought they'd cast someone who matched the character better.

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    1. Re:hmmm by Rob.Mathers · · Score: 2

      Umm, I don't know what Keanu Reeves you've been watching, but the one I know is pasty white. As pasty as any geek on /.

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    2. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, look at the first Batman movie. Billie Dee Williams was Harvey Dent.

    3. Re:hmmm by paterthorn · · Score: 1

      Yeah and Michael Clark Duncan is gonna be Kingpin.

    4. Re:hmmm by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Superman is an ET, so whatever skin color you choose must fit (even green, but that one will be confused with Hulk)

    5. Re:hmmm by Nightpaw · · Score: 4, Funny

      Superman is Kryptonian. He's a different species. He's not a member of any human "race". We're lucky he's even bilaterally symetrical.

    6. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, I thought he was pretty much the best Batman. Of course, he had the company of other excellent actors such as Jack Nicholson and Jack Palance.

    7. Re:hmmm by PHPee · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not that his background should matter, but Keanu is actually from Lebanon. His mother was English, and his father was American (of Chinese & Hawaiian descent). His name is Hawaiian, meaning "cool breeze over the mountains."

    8. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong universe. Hulk is Marvel, the green strongman in DC's universe is J'onn the Martian Manhunter

    9. Re:hmmm by FCAdcock · · Score: 1

      Green wouldn't work. He still has to fit in with the rest of the world as Clark Kent, and I doubt that a green Kent would be at all believable?

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    10. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that just goes to show the circles YOU run in.

    11. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that just goes to show the circles YOU run in.

      (i'm glad to see that you and your friends all think a like)

      baaa aaaaaaa

      (that's a sheep bleating)

    12. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my god.

      i don't even know where to start with your post...

      michael keaton was a suckass batman.

      in fact all the batman movies sucked.

      and superman white?

      fuck.

      i don't even know what to say.

      get some new associates/friends whatever.

      your world is way too fucking small.

      so you and all your friends sit around and agree with each other "keaton was the best batman, and superman is white"

      holy shit that's bad.

    13. Re:hmmm by fanatic · · Score: 2

      the problem isn't skin-tone. The problem is physique. Keanu needs to put on a good 30-50 pounds to do this bit - he looked a little on the anorexic side in Matrix.

      Wat is the deal - George Reeves, Chistopher Reeve, Keanu Reeves - is hollywood so lame they think the name has to match?

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    14. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the volume of replies, I rate your troll as respectable. The obvious X-ism counteracted by "I'm not X or anything" prevents you from receiving more than a B+, however. Next time, be more imaginative -- how about pointing out that Chris uses Linux in his wheelchair device, while Keanu runs NT, and was seen upgrading to XP last month at a local PC World?

    15. Re:hmmm by dpt · · Score: 1

      We're lucky he's even bilaterally symetrical.

      No, *Lois* is lucky.

    16. Re:hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fricken dolt. Revees is Canadian.

      Not that we're proud of it or anything.

  10. Of course it's Keanu by (void*) · · Score: 2

    Didn't you see tbe last movie were he FLEW at up into the sky after emerging from the telephone booth?

  11. hey people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Is this story really news for nerds? I don't think so.


    Slashdot really sucks nowadays. There are better alternatives. Check out


    Quit Slashdot.

  12. Superman's Excellent Adventure by l810c · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Dude! I got like awesome powers.

  13. WHOA!! by spav · · Score: 1

    I'd just love to hear superman say "Whoa!" when he starts flying. Oh well...network suits just don't get it do they.

    1. Re:WHOA!! by RoofPig · · Score: 1

      Network suits? So the president of CBS is going to decide who plays movie Superman?

    2. Re:WHOA!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they'll give him a sidekick character, brilliantly portrayed by the old Bill/Ted character that is probably busy doing B grade made for video pictures right now. And also George Carlin ...and his phonebooth.

  14. Michael Keaton by ChronoZ · · Score: 1

    Is this possibly the worse fit for an actor in a superhero role since Michael Keaton in Batman?

    Personally I found Michael Keaton to be the better of the movie version Batmans. The rest were pretty wussy and really didn't fit into the role.
    Keanu Reeves as Superman, now that's another story all together...

    1. Re:Michael Keaton by raam · · Score: 1

      Ditto. Keaton was the only one who pulled it off with any class, though the terrible scripts may have ruined it for the others...

    2. Re:Michael Keaton by JW+Troll · · Score: 1

      Hear hear! How about Val Kilmer or George Clooney for worst Batman?? Keaton was perfect, and Tim Burton's style is incomparable. Of course, the other Batman movies were written by toy-producers, so you know they weren't going to be great... when the Batmobile loses its menace and the villians have no class, this story is done. They should have quit at Batman Returns.

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    3. Re:Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but Basinger's every-two-minutes cringe-inducing screeches killed that movie for me.

    4. Re:Michael Keaton by bellings · · Score: 2

      Personally I found Michael Keaton to be the better of the movie version Batmans.

      Yes, objectively, Micheal Keaton was the least shitty movie Batman. But, paradoxically, he was also the worst cast. By the time Val Kilmer and George Clooney got the role, everyone already expected the Batman movies to really, really suck. There wasn't anything left to be disappointed about.

      But when Keaton was cast, I was still young enough, and idealistic enough -- and the the Miller Batmans were still recent enough -- to believe it possible to make a Batman movie worth watching. Instead, Hollywood pulled a $100,000,000.00 cellulose tapeworm out of its collective anus.

      Well, it certainly could have been worse. Suprisingly, Keaton turned out to be the only thing worth watching in that fetid turd of a movie. Watching Jack phone in his role for a huge paycheck was disappointing. Seeing Burton's overwrought, overmarketed, over hyped Gotham didn't help the movie at all. And, for the life of me, I can't recall which hideous "actress" they splashed on the screen to revolt us. Was that the one with Michelle Pfieffer, Kim Bassinger, or Alicia Silverstone? Oh lord, what demon did those shitbags have to sell their soul too to get on film?

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    5. Re:Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      really... you are a bit too harsh for no apparent reason.

      They (the leading actresses) were cast because of their sex appeal and status in the film industry (at those particular times).

      Keaton was best. First movie was best. Pfeiffer was best person for catwoman. I don't even really remember watching the films that followed those two, which doesn't say much for their positive impact on me.

      But calling them 'shitbags' is really quite juvenile... I thought the thread was about Keaton anyways? If the thread topic was "Batman and my unnecessary misogyny" then I'd understand, and fortunately wouldn't need to be replying here.

      Goodbye.

    6. Re:Michael Keaton by bellings · · Score: 2

      You think it's ok to cast chicks for their sex appeal and status in the film industry, and you have the nerve to accuse me of misogyny? Dude, I'd rather watch an ugly chick who can act -- unlike you, I think women have a lot more to offer me than just their ability to starve themselves and still have perky tits.

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    7. Re:Michael Keaton by JoeRobe · · Score: 1

      Of course it's ok to cast a woman on her sex appeal if her character is supposed to be sexy. For crying out loud, remember this is Gotham, where everybody is physically beautiful. Specifically, Catwoman was supposed to be luring Batman around, trying to get him attracted to her.

      And as far as status in the film industry goes, what's wrong with casting ANYBODY based on their status in the industry. They weren't just given status, they earned it. Why would you cast Harrison Ford, or Tom Hanks for something, then? Because they have a history of making great movies, so they have developed a reputation in hollywood as a good actor.

      Geez, man, calm down.

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    8. Re:Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Status in the industry means a history of making money. It has absolutely nothing to do with a history of making great movies. I like looking at physically beatiful things just as much as anyone else does. But to imply that women should be cast in movies for only that reason -- because they're good looking -- has a much deeper implication. It means that that being good looking is the only thing of value a woman could possibly have. Anything else a woman might have -- brains, acting ability, whatever, is worthless. To say, in the same post, that Micheal Keaton might be dark and mysterious, a real actor, and it matters, but the chick didn't need to be any of those things because she's just eye candy, and that's all a chick has to be in a movie -- that's misogyny.

      But, anyhow, there is nothing wrong with casting people based on their status in the industry. You can continue watching the lousy films that result, buying blow for the jerks that shovel their mucus into your anxious maw. I promoise not to pass judgement on you, or the industries that make their living from people like you. Really. I'm not judging. I promise.

    9. Re:Michael Keaton by displaytest · · Score: 1

      For whatever it's worth, two out of three of those "shitbags" have been nominated for Oscars, although it sounds to me like you aren't too concerned with the opinions of the Academy members. I'm sure whatever the hell movies you enjoy are too important to be liked or properly understood by the rest of us.

    10. Re:Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure Kim Bassinger won an Oscar for LA Confidential. It doesn't change my opinion of her as an actress. She was in Batman for one reason, and one reason alone -- to sell tickets. Not to make it a better movie. Not to match Tim Burton's "vision". She was in it to sell more tickets. Period. End of story.

      Look, have you seen any of those crap-fests that past for Batman movies? I could care less if you enjoy watching stuff like that. I my share of worthless pulp entertainment, too. But you have to seriously question your judgement if you find yourself defending Batman as some sort of decent movie. It sucked. Really. The first one sucked less than the rest.

      You're allowed to consume bad entertainment. You're allowed to read bad sci-fi. You're allowed to get in meaningless arguments with disembodied voices on Cmdr Taco's crappy blog. You're even allowed to enjoy watching Batman. But don't confuse Batman for a decent movie, and don't confuse Cmdr Taco's fun blog for a real news site, OK?

    11. Re:Michael Keaton by JoeRobe · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that a woman has no other values, for crying out loud. Nor am I saying that a woman has no other value in movies than as eye candy. I'm not even saying that the woman characters in Batman movies have no other value than the way that they look!

      What I'm saying is that Batman is a movie that is designed from a comic in which everyone is attractive (a trend in comics). As a consequence, when that script is written, it's written with the intent of having beautiful people playing the parts. Therefore when they are casting the movie, being attractive WILL be a requirement. If you want to point a righteous finger of misogynism, point it at the makers of the comic, not at the makers of the movie who have an obligation to adhere to the comic.

      Second, I'm not saying that a woman should be cast SOLELY on the basis of her attractiveness. That's stupid, then we would have supermodels playing all the lead roles. However, seeing as how being attractive is a requirement for the role in Batman, you will want to find a person that is both attractive AND has acting skills. And yes, I do think Uma Thurman and Michelle Pfieffer are good actresses. Please do not mistake what I am saying: I'm referring to the role that women recieve in the movie Batman. I'm not talking about any other movie, nor am I talking about the movie industry in general. Only Batman.

      Third, get off of your silly righteous pedestal. There are actors/actresses out there that have achieved status because of their acting skills. Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Dustin Hoffman, Harrison Ford, Robert DeNiro, Michelle Pfeiffer...the list goes on. These are people that have achieved status because of their acting skills. And yes, I will continue watching the dribble that comes out of these people, like A Beautiful Mind, Saving Private Ryan, Indiana Jones, Erin Brockovich, etc.. I'l watch them because they are entertaining, and believe it or not, that's why I go to the movies - to be entertained.

      Thanks for not passing judgement on me, though. Last thing I'd want you to do is pass judgement on me, then draw very general conclusions about the type of person I am based on what I say about how one role was cast in one movie. That would be bad.

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    12. Re:Michael Keaton by gvonk · · Score: 2

      You think it's ok to cast chicks for their sex appeal and status in the film industry, and you have the nerve to accuse me of misogyny?

      Riiiiight....
      Because sex appeal is always purely physical, isn't it?

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    13. Re:Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tom Hanks can't act for shit, and if you think he can you deserve all the shitty movies you get.

    14. Re:Michael Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? Did you read the post? He said like 10 more important things, and all you can say is "Tom Hanks can't act for shit"? You're an idiot.

  15. Lesser of Two Evils by RetiefUnwound · · Score: 2, Informative

    Can anyone second the opinion that at least he wouldn't be as bad as the other proposed Man of Steel - Nicholas Cage? (Hey at least Reeves has hair...)

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    1. Re:Lesser of Two Evils by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah nicholas cage would suck,
      he just irritates me. They really
      should pick someone who isn't already
      well known, but a competent actor
      who has done shakespere or something.
      Both cage schwarzineger and reeves basically play themselves playing a character, instead
      of playing the character. Pick an actor not a star.

    2. Re:Lesser of Two Evils by ignatzMouse · · Score: 1

      How can you compare the two? Reeves can't act his way out of a paper bag. I thought that casting Cage was a pretty interesting choice.

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    3. Re:Lesser of Two Evils by cheezfreek · · Score: 0
      Reeves can't act his way out of a paper bag.

      Or, in the immortal words of Eric Cartman: "He couldn't act his way out of a nutsack!" It applies equally to Fred Savage and Keanu Reeves.

  16. OH YEAH by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 2
    Well I also heard that Colin Farrell is playing Batman in the n....

    Hey! This isn't aintitcoolnews! what the....?

    (seriously, why is this story here...?)

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    1. Re:OH YEAH by rat7307 · · Score: 1

      (seriously, why is this story here...?)

      Today we've had stories about movie casting rumors and Fake Monkey Automatons... I think there's been a gas leak in /. hq and everyones gone off their heads.

      Is this the beginning of the end of /. as a "news" source... seriously guys, its starting to slip... please refrain from this miscellaneous bullshit...THINK OF THE CHILDERN

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  17. keaton was the best batman by MikeD227 · · Score: 2, Informative

    title says it all

    1. Re:keaton was the best batman by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Damn right!

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  18. Re:God isnt real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Keanu was born in Lebannon... so.. dunno. His mom is arabic, that's why he's got that nice hair, and sexy body.

  19. Michael Keaton... by ToolFiend · · Score: 1

    Hey, the first two Batman movies were the *good* ones.

  20. SCrew that... by BLAG-blast · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Christopher Reeve is getting better!!! Let him play superman, when he's a little more better of course....

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    1. Re:SCrew that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christopher Reeve is getting better!!! Let him play superman, when he's a little more better of course....

      Nah; Christopher Reeve should play Jor-El...

    2. Re:SCrew that... by Nicopa · · Score: 2

      Wow...!

      According to the article he's able to even walk in a pool! Uhm.. I think he should be taken to the moon, perhaps there we could walk.. :)

    3. Re:SCrew that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I think he should be taken to the moon, perhaps there we could walk.. :)

      I don't think his flying powers have come back yet.

    4. Re:SCrew that... by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly sure that he wants to excercise his ability to breathe quite extensively, as well, you know.

  21. Its only cause of his last name... by checkitout · · Score: 5, Funny

    George Reeves played the original superman on TV.

    Christopher Reeves played him in the movies from the late 70's early 80's.

    So logically they want Keanu Reeves now..

    1. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by lannocc · · Score: 1

      hmmm, very interesting

    2. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by netsharc · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well to be pedantic, he's Christoper Reeve, with no final "s". Oh and sources says it'll be his birthday in 10 days (the 25th). Happy Birthday Superman, I hope you get well soon.

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    3. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Yiddishkite · · Score: 1

      His name was Christopher Reeve, not Reeves.

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    4. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by gilesjuk · · Score: 1

      Maybe the film company should spend some money curing Reeve of his paralysis (the exisiting treatment appears to be doing something). That really would make him a superman.

    5. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Saeger · · Score: 5, Funny
      Three Reeves?

      Must be a glitch in the Matrix...

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    6. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by km790816 · · Score: 2
      At the risk of getting really off topic:

      Are there signs of hope in Christopher Reeve's modest recovery?
      Doctors have long told people paralyzed by spinal-cord injuries that after a year or two, the odds of improvement are basically nil. But recent discoveries have offered tantalizing hints that perhaps the devastating damage isn't permanent after all-that the central nervous system can in fact repair itself.

      Last week came the hardest evidence yet, in a 49-year-old quadriplegic who is now able to sense touch and move his arms and legs a bit. The subject in the unusual one-person study: actor Christopher Reeve, who was paralyzed in a 1995 horseback-riding accident.
      The power of modern medicine and good old-fashion determination, eh?
    7. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by mgblst · · Score: 2

      I am sorry, I find it hard to believe that Christoper Reeve's birthday (with an s) will be his 25th. What, does Superman age at different rate to everybody else?

      And perhaps this movie is not aimed at the boring, crappy geek market, who enjoy movies like Sneakers, and such shit. Superman was never aimed at the geek market... at least not computer geeks.

    8. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, I believe that's the 25th of September, not his 25th birthday.

    9. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by c.derby · · Score: 1

      He'll turn 50 on the 25th...

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    10. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Viking+Coder · · Score: 2

      His name is Christopher Reeve.

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    11. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you remember *that* series? I saw them on TV once, and later had most of them on VideoCD. There's some Superman series on television now (not with the Ripley's host) that occasionally drops references to the original Superman series.

    12. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Reziac · · Score: 2

      If anyone can beat it, Reeve can -- not only (as someone else pointed out) does he have the funds to do whatever it takes, he's got the will-power and persistence.

      To topic, as Superman he was one of the few cases of literally perfect casting for an existing character, where I didn't have to adjust a single one of my grew-up-with-Superman preconceptions. But Keanu... It's just not there. I can't see him as Superman even if I squint.

      Not sure who I'd cast, if it were up to me. Anyone have suggestions?

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    13. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2
      I am sorry, I find it hard to believe that Christoper Reeve's birthday (with an s) will be his 25th. What, does Superman age at different rate to everybody else?
      Don't you know that Krypton rotates around it's primary in 511 days? And since Krypton days are 34 hours long, the Krypton year is almost 2 Earth years.
    14. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2
      Must be a glitch in the Matrix...
      No, just two backups...
    15. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he's got the will-power and persistence

      How you do know? Really? Because he played Superman in movies? How do you know he hasn't tried to off himself but can't?

    16. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by timdorr · · Score: 1

      Three Reeves?

      Must be a glitch in the Matrix...




      :p

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    17. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 2

      it'll be his birthday in 10 days (the 25th).

      Gimme a break here, Christopher Reeve is older than 25.

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    18. Re:Its only cause of his last name... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2

      Doncha know, he did "Superman" when he was about 3.

      Seriously though, it's obvious the original poster was referring to the 25th of the month.

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  22. Think about it... by thelinuxking · · Score: 2

    Well, Keanu Reeves DID leap ACROSS tall buildings in a single bound. I guess that qualifies him...

    1. Re:Think about it... by strredwolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      And fell.

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    2. Re:Think about it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thin he missed that one, 1st time at least

  23. Keaton Keanu by Kane2k2 · · Score: 1

    Michael Keaton was excellent for an older Batman, but if they do 'year one', they'll need a younger actor. Keaton is a bit insane, just like Batman. Reeves is just cardboard.

  24. Keaton by skroz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey, wait a minute... I _LIKED_ keaton as batman! The first (OK, not first, but you know what I mean) movie was by far the best of the lot. Of course, that could be attributed to Nicholson...

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    1. Re:Keaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nicholson was definitely what carried the show. He was the perfect Joker. None of the Bruce Waynes were up to par. Keaton came closest, but he wasn't quite there. Kilmer and Clooney's portrayal of Millionaire Playboy Wayne for a later batman was true to character later in the timeline, but they both weren't believable. As for the Batman alter ego, it didn't matter too much since he's in a mask. They should have filmed Batman with more Batamn and less Bruce Wayne and they might have worked out better.

      Schwarzenegger should not have been mr Freeze, since Bane would have been a better role for him. Other than that one oddball, the rogue's gallery was pretty much dead on.

  25. Heaven help us by rhysweatherley · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I just can't image Ted "Theodore" Logan as Superman. It just doesn't work.

    They should do what they did with Spiderman - find a little known but good actor and have him re-invent the role. That way, the audience won't bring any misconceptions into the cinema, which will ruin the whole experience.

    1. Re:Heaven help us by swankypimp · · Score: 4, Funny

      It works if Bill S. Preston, Esquire, plays Jimmy Olson, who, in a major plot twist, turns into an arch-villain. Makes for a good plot, since I always found Alex Winter pretty funny. In a well-conceived parallel plot, the talented sidekick ends up with nothing while his handsome, affably stupid "buddy" gets the girl/money/fame. This turns Alex/Jimmy e-vil, and he begins plotting Super Ted's downfall... "I have way lots of kryptonite, you futuristic dick-weed! Time to die, Super Dude!"

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    2. Re:Heaven help us by blowhole · · Score: 2

      What the heck has "Alex Winter", or as 99.99% of the rest of the population like to call him "the blonde one", ever been in besides Bill and Ted?

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    3. Re:Heaven help us by Accipiter · · Score: 2

      He was in The Lost Boys, but I'm pretty sure that was before the original Bill & Ted.

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    4. Re:Heaven help us by cliveholloway · · Score: 2
      What Alex Winter is doing right now

      cLive ;-)

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    5. Re:Heaven help us by Cplus · · Score: 2

      Actually Alex Winter has gone on to a more behind the scenes lifestyle than Keanu. He's been writing and directing commercials, videos, and a few feature films since B&T. Last film that I know of was the critically acclaimed horror-flick 'Fever' in 1999.

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    6. Re:Heaven help us by Sunnan · · Score: 1

      But I was really annoyed with Tobey McGuire in Spider-Man. The rest of the casting was great, but...

      In the first minutes of the movie, I thought he reminded me of Peter Parker from the Amazing Stories period, which was okay, but I'd prefer a later Parker like the later Lee/Romita dayes, or the JMS/Romita as of today.

    7. Re:Heaven help us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Little known?
      Go watch pleasantville. That movie made Toby McGuire a household name around here...

    8. Re:Heaven help us by tuxedo-steve · · Score: 1
      This turns Alex/Jimmy e-vil, and he begins plotting Super Ted's downfall... "I have way lots of kryptonite, you futuristic dick-weed! Time to die, Super Dude!"
      1. "Super Ted" was a kiddie cartoon in the late 80s.
      2. "Super Dude" was the name of a hamster on the Simpsons.
      3. Please stop messing with my mind.
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    9. Re:Heaven help us by drik00 · · Score: 2

      totally off topic, but,

      the Toby Spider-Man was *supposed* to be that Peter Parker (no confidence, nerd, no friends), ...if you became a super hero wouldnt it boost your self-esteem and change you to a cooler cat?

      just a thought

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  26. Heh by Ryan+Stortz · · Score: 1

    Woah...I know kung fu.

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  27. Actually, about Batman... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Michael Keaton actually has the right look, the right face for Batman. The guy looks, feels "dark" and IMO was the Best New Batman. The 2 others didn't feel right for the part, they just don't have the "negative vibes" Keaton put out in his performances.

    Yes, before the movie came out, the announcement that he was going to be Batman made me nervous ("mr. mom is batman?"), but I feel the movies he was in were the best in the series, due in part to his personal, er, "dark aura".

    Of course, this is just an opinion.

  28. huh? by Mad+Quacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Michael Keaton played THE BEST batman, everyone I know agrees. He brought the perfect mix of mystery, drive, and intellect. You could see the dark motivations in his face, a person driven by the slaying of his parents. George Clooney? That was a cruel joke.

    If this "mistake" is as bad as batman, I'll be first in line for the theater.

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    1. Re:huh? by Octal · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you're forgetting about Adam West.

    2. Re:huh? by Peale · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It wasn't so much that he had the 'dark motivations' on his face as that, like the comic book Batman, he separated the two. Bruce Wayne was one character, and Batman was a completely different character.

      Dual personalities at their best.

    3. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      adam wests batman was the perfect representation of the homosexual batman and robin scheme, but the non gay batman was played best by keaton.

      Since im not a faggot, Ill stick with keaton and the non gay batmans.

    4. Re:huh? by sc00p18 · · Score: 1

      YES. Keaton was definitely the best batman. I heard that the reason he stopped after the second one is because he's extremely claustrophobic and being in the rubber suit was like torture for him. What a shame.

    5. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've often wondered about the people who say Keaton rocked as Batman, have they ever read the comic?

      Did he do well as Bruce Wayne? Maybe. But the movie is called BATMAN. Every time he put on the costume he was crap. Go pick up a copy of Batman, Detective, or JLA and then come tell me he was Batman. Tell me he got the physical part of the role down, you'll be wrong. Tell me he got the air, the attitude right, you're wrong again.

      So did Micheal Keaton play the best of the movie Batmans, arguable. But he definetely didn't play Batman the way I've read him.

      And don't give me that "cinematic interpertation" line either. I'm fine with a black Kingpin. I'm not fine with a Batman who looks like he'd hurt himself doing a high kick or backflip.

    6. Re:huh? by bellings · · Score: 2

      Michael Keaton played THE BEST batman, everyone I know agrees... George Clooney? That was a cruel joke.

      Being beat in the kidneys with a two-by-four until you piss blood is much, much better than being bashed in the skull with a hammer until you have epileptic seziures. Given that metric, being beaten in the kidneys is THE BEST, but I'll just stay home and read a book, thank you very much.

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    7. Re:huh? by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Yep. Keaton had the "just-this-side-of-psycho" thing. It's the eyes.

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    8. Re:huh? by Debillitatus · · Score: 2
      "I dont't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots." GWB Sr

      You got a reference for this quote? I don't buy it.

      Ok, I know this is as offtopic as hell, replying to a tagline and all. Mod me down, cruel world!

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    9. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just do a google search it's everywhere.

    10. Re:huh? by Shadowin · · Score: 1

      Here is a link.

      http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/aa011.htm

    11. Re:huh? by Debillitatus · · Score: 2
      I see. So this quote is reported as part of a private communication between GHWB and some dude who has an interest in his saying this?

      Do you even know what "critical thinking skills" are?

      Read the publicly-reported quote later in the page, and you'll see it has a quite different character. That one is believable. The original one is not.

      Look, I'm not a huge fan of the Bushes myself, and I hate to be in a position to defend them, but this is ridiculous. No reasonable person would believe he said that.

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    12. Re:huh? by Shadowin · · Score: 1

      Are you a moron?

      Read the link, it was a formal outdoor news conference at the O'Hare Airport , not a private communication.

  29. Here we go by starseeker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The only movie I've seen this guy work well in was The Matrix, basically because he was perfect for the roll without needing to act. (Ok, I was entertained somehow by Speed, but don't ask me why. I haven't figured it out.)

    In all fairness, it's probably pretty hard to find someone who can play the role. My take on it is that they should find some actor who isn't known to the public. If someone has played other characters, it's kinda hard to get over that association. No one thinks of Superman as someone you'd know from somewhere else.

    (Sort of on topic - I was very glad to hear the news that Christopher Reeve has regained some sensation and muscular control.
    http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/09/13/reeves.reco ve ry.ap/index.html
    There's a real story of inspiration and hope. My hat's off to him. This is why you never give up.)

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    1. Re:Here we go by yokimbo · · Score: 1

      "The only movie I've seen this guy work well in was The Matrix ..." Actually, he was perfect for Bill and Ted's Ex. Adv. too.

      Either Hollywood is really struggling or this story is bulls***. You need someone with a much stronger presence than Keanu. In the Matrix he played an insecure hacker (no offense fellow nerds). Keanu doesn't pull off that sort of Super(I'm gonna kick your ass)man attitude very well. Keanu is good at doubting himself, more like Spidey, although he wouldn't have made a good Spidey for other reasons.

      Either way, you gotta give the guy credit, he was great as Neo.

    2. Re:Here we go by Chemical · · Score: 5, Funny
      The only movie I've seen this guy work well in was The Matrix

      Aren't you forgetting Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, the greatest movie ever made? "Ted" was by far Keanu's best performace to date. He was the perfect choice to portray a SoCal airhead. His performance just seemed so natural.

    3. Re:Here we go by sgtsanity · · Score: 1

      The only movie I've seen this guy work well in was The Matrix, basically because he was perfect for the roll without needing to act.

      Then obviosly you haven't seen his perfect, almost shakespearean-like performance in "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure" and the sequel "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey".

    4. Re:Here we go by garcia · · Score: 2

      entertainment = Sandra Bullock.

      She's what made "The Net" a good movie as well (bikini, Sandra, beach, laptop = too good to be true ;))

    5. Re:Here we go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same goes for his surfer role in Point Break :)

    6. Re:Here we go by BlackGriffen · · Score: 1

      The only reason Kea.. Kaiu... fuck it, that guy made a good Neo was because Neo was supposed to be cluless since he was in a new situation (fate and fortune tellers, alternate worlds, etc.). I don't know if I want him to continue playing Neo in the sequels, because that Neo won't be clueless, and I don't see him pulling that off.

      BlackGriffen

    7. Re:Here we go by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

      Yeah, granted Keanu doesn't work for this one in the least bit but Superman doesn't have a "I'm going to kick your ass" attitude either. He's tough to cast because he's this giant super powered boy scout. The guy to play Superman has to be unknown. He's got to have a body like Arnold on his best friggin day and the acting ability to pull off the part. Reeves had the face and acting ability but was always a little lacking in the physique department. Plus I thought he overdid the Clark Kent side and just played him a little too awkward. He was the closest to date though.

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    8. Re:Here we go by Shamashmuddamiq · · Score: 2, Interesting
      "...they should find some actor who isn't known to the public."

      Agreed! I believe that's one of the things that made Spider-man so successful. They didn't take a teen heartthrob or some singer/actor or even some already well-known and loved actor. Becoming familiar with the new actor was part of the fun of the movie. You didn't know what to expect. Now if they could have just gotten someone besides Kirsten Dunst...

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    9. Re:Here we go by be-fan · · Score: 2

      You didn't know what to expect. Now if they could have just gotten someone besides Kirsten Dunst...
      >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;
      Say it ain't so! Kirsten Dunst was great. Not entirely true to the character, but she's Kirsten Dunst!

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    10. Re:Here we go by G-funk · · Score: 2

      No, no no no no... Her boobs were great, she sucked (don't bother).

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    11. Re:Here we go by drik00 · · Score: 2

      Keanu does VERY well in movies where he is the one being manipulated by the plot/environment, for example:

      1. in the Matrix, he spent 3/4 of the movie in awe of the revelations and truths he was shown

      2. in Speed, he was being manipulated by Dennis Hopper's psycho character ...the point is that Keanu does NOT do well in roles that his character advances the plot and/or takes on leadership roles, he can only act "awed" and "damn, what do i do now" well...he's not the leader character.

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    12. Re:Here we go by drik00 · · Score: 2

      who says that he has to be built like arnold?? i think it would be better if he were a nice 6'2"/3" will a big frame, but all muscled up would be kind of stupid. Comic books draw him that way because its art (the hero has to be physically perfect)...

      IMHO it would make for a MUCH better movie to have a normal sized athletic guy playing him. I think i'd enjoy it more, because, seriously, what would Superman lift when "pumping up"??

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    13. Re:Here we go by drik00 · · Score: 2

      that movie ruined itself for me when the "virus" melted the screen when she playing the Doom-ish game...i couldnt get into after that

      why do hollywood ppl this everyone is as dumb as they are about reality?

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    14. Re:Here we go by 3Ddgg · · Score: 1

      They should put Bill in a dress and make him superwoman. Imagine THE MEGA SEQUEL OF THE CENTURY.

      Superman, Superwoman and Bill & Ted all rapped into one. Hey, maybe Keanu should play Batman! (:-)

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    15. Re:Here we go by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

      I do. I say it and everyone out there damned well better listen to me!

      Ok, so actually that's just my opinion. I'm wanting to see the comic book in motion and I admit it but then that's my expectation. Everyones got a different one.

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  30. Why does Keanu work? by Nept · · Score: 2

    because he has charisma, that's why. lots and lots of charisma. I'm sure he can play a just as over-the-top and goofy superman as christopher reeve di-Oh Wait! they have the same last name! that's why they picked Keanu - he's the son of superman!

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    1. Re:Why does Keanu work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      great delivery, someone mod parent up.

  31. Free Your mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess on top of enduring dialogue of "Whoah"s we'll have to do a lot of "mind freeing" to believe in Keanu as our fabled Man of Steel.

    Why couldn't it have been someone more *manly* like Russel Crowe or Mel Gibson? ... oh yeah, I guess real men just don't like wearing tights...=0)
    PS: BTW I'm just kidding, I am NOT judging anyone...not that there is anything wrong with wearing tights.

    1. Re:Free Your mind by Kredal · · Score: 2
      Mel Gibson? ... oh yeah, I guess real men just don't like wearing tights
      Wasn't Mel Gibson trying on hose in "What Women Want"?
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    2. Re:Free Your mind by sconeu · · Score: 2

      I guess real men just don't like wearing tights

      Well if wearing tights is the problem, what about Cary Elwes?

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  32. What is it with Reeve*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's Christopher Reeve as Superman, George Reeves as Superman, and now Keanu Reeves?

    Of course, there's also a few other Supermen like Dean Cain, and Tom Welling as Clark Kent pre-Superman.

    But still a little odd!

  33. A real Super-story.. by Kwil · · Score: 1

    Christopher Reeve, the previous movies' Superman has managed to regain sensation below the neck and can now move his right wrist to some degree.

    Doctors aren't sure exactly why, but think it might have to do with the constant excercise regime that Mr. Reeve went on shortly after the accident.

    The strength of will required for Mr. Reeve to be able to accomplish this after all these years is simply remarkable. Some casting agent knew what he was doing when they chose Christopher for the Superman role.

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    1. Re:A real Super-story.. by Nazmun · · Score: 1

      If i remember correctly... he was casted by the director directly...

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  34. I agree by Ethelred+Unraed · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I very much agree. I thought Keaton was quite good as Batman -- he certainly played a much more convincing Bruce Wayne than the others. Val Kilmer sucked -- too much of the playboy type, rather than the tragic figure that Wayne was supposed to be. George Clooney could have been okay, but again he tried too much to be the sex god rather than the dark figure that Batman and Bruce Wayne really are. Keaton got the brooding, darker side of Batman/Wayne much better than the others did. (And the Batman movies just weren't the same without Tim Burton's vision anyway.)

    Keaton's choice was also greeted with skepticism by fans, but I think he did a good job. Which is why I would be willing to give Keanu Reeves the benefit of the doubt. But unfortunately Keanu is a lousy actor IMO -- he did okay in Matrix, but he stunk in just about everything else (his "performance" in Much Ado About Nothing was embarrassing).

    Maybe the Hollywood execs thought they were 'honoring' Christoper Reeve by having an actor with nearly the same last name play Reeve's most memorable role. ;-P

    But Christopher Reeve will always be the "real" Superman for me -- he was born to play that role IMO.

    Cheers,

    Ethelred

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    1. Re:I agree by Gumshoe · · Score: 2
      Maybe the Hollywood execs thought they were 'honoring' Christoper Reeve by having an actor with nearly the same last name play Reeve's most memorable role. ;-P


      Not forgetting of course, George Reeves, who played Superman in an early Superman TV series. George Reeves
    2. Re:I agree by GMontag451 · · Score: 2
      But unfortunately Keanu is a lousy actor IMO -- he did okay in Matrix, but he stunk in just about everything else (his "performance" in Much Ado About Nothing was embarrassing).

      Oh come on, what about Bill & Ted or Johnny Mnemonic? :)

    3. Re:I agree by praxim · · Score: 1

      (his "performance" in Much Ado About Nothing was embarrassing)



      You've obviously never seen "Little Buddha." We'll talk about embarrassing after you get a look at that.

    4. Re:I agree by Bosconian · · Score: 1

      Keaton's constant tongue-darting and lip licking really detracted from the character to me. I kept seeing shades of "Night Shift" all over, waiting for the next hooker in a hearse.

      Best,
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    5. Re:I agree by IndependentVik · · Score: 0

      Are you telling me that you don't buy Keanu Reeves as the Enlightened One? For shame.

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    6. Re:I agree by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      Sh*t, man, you're right... and I just posted above about Steve Reeves in the part...Who the h*ll was Steve Reeves, and who did he play in classic TV?

    7. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hercules, IIRC. Those were great hercules roles. I wish they would show them on TV.

    8. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christopher Reeves was a better superman than George Reeves. George was too fat for the tights, although the suit covered his love-handles enough to be a believable Clark Kent. He also always looked drunk to me, even when I was a kid I had thought so. (Eventually, I did find out that he was drunk on the set - and that he was gunned down in his trailer)

      Christopher Reeves was horrible in every role except the Superman role. He can't act. Maybe that's a good sign for Keanu, since he can't act either.

      Dean Cain was an OK superman in Lois & Clark, but puhlease, no more soap operas. Smallville really sucks - Teen angst Superman plus a smattering of X-Files - yuck!!! makes me want to puke all over Warner Bros. set.

      I wonder if anyone remembers that Martha Kent in Smallville was Lana Lang in Superman 3.

      I just hope Smallville is cancelled soon.

    9. Re:I agree by tetro · · Score: 1

      would you prefer the homosexual Batman from the 60's TV show? That Batman had the talent to state the obvious and was pretty stupid.

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    10. Re:I agree by scott1853 · · Score: 2

      Don't forget the memorable films where he wasn't a confused moron uttering "whoa" every chance he got, like, uh, that, um..., there was that one movie, uh..., hmm....

      Aw, nevermind.

    11. Re:I agree by E1v!$ · · Score: 1

      "his "performance" in Much Ado About Nothing was embarrassing"

      Yes, much ado, about nothing.

      Christopher R. will prob. never be equaled. I'd be happier with a virtual actor than anyone breathing.

    12. Re:I agree by eatenn · · Score: 1
      I very much agree. I thought Keaton was quite good as Batman -- he certainly played a much more convincing Bruce Wayne than the others. Val Kilmer sucked -- too much of the playboy type, rather than the tragic figure that Wayne was supposed to be. George Clooney could have been okay, but again he tried too much to be the sex god rather than the dark figure that Batman and Bruce Wayne really are

      Keaton was the one and only Batman (cinematically speaking). Kilmer in Forever was, well, okay at best compared to Keaton in Batman and Batman Returns(probably because Tim Burton produced Batman Forever, though he did not direct as he did the first two). Jim Carey turned Batman Forever into a comedy, which was a big problem.

      Batman and Robin was god awful. Clooney was way too upbeat to play Bruce Wayne. Sure, he had the happy-go-lucky Bruce Wayne as businessman and public icon persona down quite well, but as Batman and the real Bruce, he was unept to play such dark roles.

      Keanu as Superman? I don't quite see it. He's too young and not quite naive looking enough. Clark Kent isn't supposed to look cool, he's supposed to look like "Smallville" guy from the middle of nowhere. Even with glasses, Keanu just doesn't look naive enough for the role. Agreed, Reeves was the definitive Superman, the manifestion of Superman/Kent on-screen.

      And yeah, I know I'm gonna catch shit for saying Keanu Reeves doesn't look naive. Yeah, he looks surfer-stupid, but he doesn't look Smallville-stupid. And for the record, I like Keanu... He was good in the Matrix, he was okay in Speed, he was excellent in the Devil's Advocate. No complaint's here. Wild Stallions!

      Okay, I'm done ranting.

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    13. Re:I agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought anyone who took the overly-hyped Batman films seriously were total losers. I lived in a dorm that was full of them. Ooh! The soundtrack by Prince! Ergo... masterpiece! Yup.

    14. Re:I agree by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      There was the Devil's Advocate where I don't recall him saying "woah", but then I might have been distracted by the "Floridian" "southern" accent he was putting on...

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    15. Re:I agree by mwa · · Score: 2
      IMHO, Joel Shoe-Mucker should get the entire blame for Batman Forever. He was quoted as saying somthing like it's time for the dark, brooding Batman to "get over it". He lost the entire concept of the character and turned the whole film into a glob of superstar cameo's.

      I'd actually like to see Clooney do Batman again, but only if Burton took back the reins.

    16. Re:I agree by boy_afraid · · Score: 0

      WOW! Is this a coincidence or a CONSPIRACY? This would make a PERFECT question on Jeopardy!

      "George Reeves, Christopher Reeve, Keanu Reeves"

      Answer: "Who was the original Superman from the TV series, Superman of early 80s movie, and Superman of 2004 movie, which flopped."

  35. Stature? by T-Kir · · Score: 2

    I don't know how well built Reeves (oh, just an extra 's' on the end, another 'studio' connection for him being in the role)... but wouldn't he have to a bit of 'beefing up' for the Superman role, I mean doing martial arts is one thing, but the Superman role has always been a case of filling as much of the lycra suit with as much muscle as possible.

    Is this possibly the worse fit for an actor in a superhero role since Michael Keaton in Batman?

    OK then, who was the best Batman then? out of the original series and the films? I honestly think Keaton was the better one of the films... but then the first two films were really Tim Burton driven (very dark and gothic) and much better than the rest. Plus who can forget Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman.. meeeow indeed!!

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    1. Re:Stature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      OK then, who was the best Batman then?

      Please... Everyone know that Adam West 0wnz!

    2. Re:Stature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to see the beefcake?
      Pump it up you girly man..I assume
      you have your portable penis enlarger
      handy?

    3. Re:Stature? by gedanken · · Score: 1

      I don't see why he can't buff up. Toby McGuire (sp?) did it for Spiderman. It's not like Christopher Reeve was ever buff.

  36. Everybody thought... by JordanH · · Score: 2

    Michael Keaton would be a horrible Batman, but I think he surprised people. He played it with a dark subtlety fitting to Frank Miller's vision.

    Now, he didn't have the chisled features of comic book hero, but who does? Maybe Val Kilmer, who wasn't nearly as good, in my opinion.

    I also think that Keanu Reeves' bad reputation as an actor is not really deserved. He doesn't show great range, but he does have a certain presence and magnetism. Reminds me of Clark Gable.

    1. Re:Everybody thought... by just4now · · Score: 1

      The first Batman movie, with Keaton, was a *huge* summer box-office success at the time - people going out getting black t-shirts with the batman logo were everywhere.

      Keaton worked because he didn't look like the classic superhero - for a good poke at this watch any episode of "The Tick".

      The Movie worked because it was a gothic set-piece, styliscally (sp?) set in the 1940's but using moderen technology. Bringing in Jack Nickleson as the Joker was inspired.

      But that is just my opinion; I could be wrong.

    2. Re:Everybody thought... by SarekOfVulcan · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think the best Batman would be Christopher Reeve. They could do the storyline where he got smashed in the back with a lead pipe and confined to a wheelchair...

  37. Re:RELIGION should be BANNED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be a commie bastard.

    The commies banned jesus!

    They where meanies.

    China still has an official ban on jesus, mohammed and buddha!

    That's why the CIA says we need to hack them!

    Then they can't block websites with jesus and/or walt disney corp. merchandise!

    Beware the commies!

    They want to take away your right to drive a gargantuan SUV!

    That's mean!

    Then how will the CEO of Ford pay for his 5th mansion?

    You need to change your ways.

    First start by praying to jesus, then get a low paying job in a factory, then go on the internet and talk about how china is evil and filled with cyber terrorist commies and must be destroyed.

    It's for you own good!

  38. Conan O'Brien said it best... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Instead of kryptonite, his enemies will just use big words to stop him.

    1. Re:Conan O'Brien said it best... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I laughed so hard mountain dew shot out my nose.

  39. The one perfect role for Keanu... by Screaming+Lunatic · · Score: 2
    was Bill. Or was he Ted? Anyway, it doesn't really matter.

    The one thing about the Matrix was that I was expecting him to break into air guitar during every scene.

    1. Re:The one perfect role for Keanu... by mgblst · · Score: 2

      Perhaps that says more about you, than him... did you really like bill and teds crappy adventures?

      I don't hate Keanu that much, but I hate crappy movies. I also like Brad Pitt, and in each of his movies he has played pretty much the same character... in the few movies I saw him in, anyway. Same for Keanu. Some actors don't seem to have a lot of range. So what!

    2. Re:The one perfect role for Keanu... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      did you really like bill and teds crappy adventures?

      No, but the NES game was like, totally tubular man!

      (Yes, I am being sarcastic!)

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    3. Re:The one perfect role for Keanu... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reeves was Ted.

  40. Who do YOU think should play Superman? by loggia · · Score: 1

    I am interested to hear who people think should play Supes.

    Obviously, Keavu Reeves is a poor choice. But who would work well in this role?

    How about Chris Klein?

    1. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The Rock" or maybe Brenden Frasier, or how about... Christopher Walken? Or maybe a fully CGI Superman created by George Lucas.

    2. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by mark_lybarger · · Score: 2, Funny

      i'm thinking chris rock, though you might have to throw in a few costume mods to pull it off.

    3. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by (void*) · · Score: 2

      There are plenty of people out there who look the part and have the talent enough to do it. Why does it have to be someone that you know and recognise from Hollywood? Even Christopher Reeves were unknown before he was cast as the Man of Steel. They could find someone before, they can find someone again.

    4. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christian Bale ... the guy from American Psycho

    5. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by hyfi · · Score: 1

      Two Words... Bruce Campbell Seriously

    6. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by BlackGriffen · · Score: 2

      Oddly, after seeing the satire on Saturday Night Live, I think that The Rock could do a really good job. I'd have to find out more by talking to the people who worked with him in the mummy movies and the Akkadian (or whatever that was called), but he was Superman's spitting image.

      I don't know how much acting skill Superman would take, anyway. I think the biggest hurdle for Keanue (however the fuck you spell his name) would be the fact that Superman was supposed to be intelligent. Ok, not Batman intelligent, and not a master of disguise ;), but he definitely had some gray matter between his ears. But then I don't know if the Rock could pull that off, either.

      Screw it, another vote for Bruce Campbell!

      BlackGriffen

    7. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rock's biggest problem would probably be his ethnicity (half black, half Somoan), since Superman has always been depicted as ultra-white. But who knows, maybe they'd see this change as a positive. He's got the muscles to fill out the suit.

    8. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by ArchTangent · · Score: 1

      Brendan Frasier. He's able to do clumsy and mildly goofy for Clark Kent (if they go that route), he's got enough muscles, and he's dreamy enough to draw bring lots of female theatre-goers.

    9. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus he has the Scorpion King 2 which drew like a $70 million opening weekend on his resume. Studios love that.

    10. Re:Who do YOU think should play Superman? by majestyk2000 · · Score: 1

      Patrick Warburton or Howie Long. Seriously.

  41. I thought this was news for nerds??? by Chexsum · · Score: 0

    Why am I seeing movie articles and Windows articles lately?

    This stuff is not nerdy!

    How much is Slashdot getting paid to run stories?

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  42. Superman's race by Sunnan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Superman is not a caucasian, he's from another planet.

    Why would he be white? He was created by two jewish guys as a continuation of the golem myth (protecting the weak and all that), with some resonance of Nietchze thrown in.

    1. Re:Superman's race by eggstasy · · Score: 1

      He would be white because his "another planet" orbited around a dim red star, remember? Plus, didnt they live underground or something? Cant remember.

    2. Re:Superman's race by Syncdata · · Score: 1

      >blah blah with some resonance of Nietchze thrown in. Nietchze? what the....If anyone has any kinda Nietchze in him, it's the Bat, sir... Superman is all about the life affirmation.

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    3. Re:Superman's race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >If anyone has any kinda Nietchze in him, it's the Bat, sir... Superman is all about the life affirmation.

      WTF?! Are you implying that Batman is somehow death-affirming? Batman doesn't kill, moron, because like Superman, he doesn't operate that way.

    4. Re:Superman's race by Sunnan · · Score: 1

      Good point, Batman is much more Nietchze with all of the "everyone can become an overman if they just practice weird yoga techniques enought" idea.

    5. Re:Superman's race by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1

      sorry, but the name is Nietzsche, not Nietchze...

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    6. Re:Superman's race by Sunnan · · Score: 1

      Thanks. That's what I get for trying to look smart.

    7. Re:Superman's race by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1

      life's a bitch... ;-)

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  43. Doesn't anyone else see the pattern? by frovingslosh · · Score: 2
    George, Christopher, now Keanu. Superman must be played only by Reeves, even if by an Hawaiian one.

    And I think Keaton was the best Batman too, and I'm not a Keaton fan.

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    1. Re:Doesn't anyone else see the pattern? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Dean Kain?

  44. Smallville's Tom Welling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keanu Reeves has never come out of his Bill & Ted's role for me...

    The only reason I enjoyed him in The Matrix was because he had so few lines!

    I think Smallville's Tom Welling would be an obvious and perfect fit. He has the look and feel and Superman...a bit young but could be the cornerstone of a perfect foundation for a new franchise of Superman movies!

    Keanu Reeves would be tough for me to accept...

    1. Re:Smallville's Tom Welling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second that emotion. That has turned to be a pretty good show.

  45. Names by Octal · · Score: 1

    I think it's just because first they had George Reeves, then Christopher Reeve, and they wanted to continue the trend.

  46. Keanu Reeves is the Perfect Fit! by solarrhino · · Score: 1
    Consider this quote, Batman to Superman, from page 22 of Frank Miller's new graphic novel "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" #3:

    Don't ask how it works. You wouldn't understand. You're not smart enough.

    They just got to get Miller to write the script!

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    1. Re:Keanu Reeves is the Perfect Fit! by One+Louder · · Score: 1

      If they made a movie of The Dark Knight Returns, I vote for Clint Eastwood as Batman. It think Mel Gibson would have been a better choice than Michael Keaton at the time - Mad Max was already about 60% Batman anyway. As for Superman, Christopher Reeves is definitely the actor to beat for portrayal of the Big Blue Boyscout. I can't think of any well-known actor who could do it even close. Perhaps they should do what they did in the 70s - pick a relative unknown, but talented and physically compatible actor. Agree on Miller too!

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  48. my views on actors and roles by Vesuvius_2 · · Score: 1

    Michael Keaton MADE THE ROLE as batman. he was brooding and angry, not a prissy happy go lucky supermodel type with latex nipples on his costume, and not a softhearted wimp like clooney. as for the superman thing, it's horrible news. I don't know why they're going for scrawny actors, but a few years ago they were talking about a superman film starring nick cage. while cage doesn't seem to physically fit the role, he's a very good actor and I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. with keanu at the helm I think even watching a trailer for the film will be painful.

  49. I protest Keanu by Ghoser777 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the few movies I like Keanu in (Matrix), he doesn't say a lot. One of his biggest lines is "Whoa!" And that's a Good Thing.

    Neo can get away with that, but Superman is suppose to give patriotic speeches and such, which would require Keanu to talk, which is bad. I don't have any evidence for this, but I bet as the number of words Reeves says in a movie increases, the quality of the movie decreases.

    Why do we need ANOTHER superman anyway? Four wasn't enough? 3 Indiana Jones' wasn't enough? 2 Home Alone's was pushing it. Why so many sequals. Oh, that's because the movie industry is just reusing old ideas to make big bucks instead of making quality films with new stories in new directions. Maybe something with a little social commentary here or there.

    Matt Fahrenbacher

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    1. Re:I protest Keanu by Syncdata · · Score: 1

      I actually want WAY less social commentary in my movies. There's too dagged much pseudo social comentary in movies to begin with. I eat cheerios for breakfast, not because it will enlighten me, or expand my horizens, but because I want something sweet and somewhat tiding in the morning. I watch movies for the same reason, from an entertainment standpoint. The last thing I need is Keanu saying "Whoa, there are like, too many people cutting down trees, or...you know...whatever..."

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    2. Re:I protest Keanu by goldmeer · · Score: 2
      Superman is suppose to give patriotic speeches and such, which would require Keanu to talk, which is bad.


      Oh, you mean that actors must have clarity and eloquence. I would like to remind you of the patriotic speech given by John J. Rambo at the end of
      "Rambo: First Blood Part II" delivered by the silver tongued actor Sylvester Stallone.
    3. Re:I protest Keanu by goldmeer · · Score: 2
      I eat cheerios for breakfast, not because it will enlighten me, or expand my horizens, but because I want something sweet and somewhat tiding in the morning.

      OT: I laugh every time I see a Cheerios ad that touts the cholesterol reducing properties of the cereal. One of the ingredients is Trisodiumphosphate. You can purchase TSP in most "Home Depot" type stores in the paint section. It removes wax residue from walls. Wax remover, cholesterol remover... How do they DO that?

    4. Re:I protest Keanu by stud9920 · · Score: 1

      There were *3* home alones

    5. Re:I protest Keanu by Fastball · · Score: 2

      I submit "Midsummer Night's Dream" into evidence. He's got two lines in the whole movie, and whiffs on both of them. I mean bad. Rumor has it that Shakespeare himself reanimated somewhere outside Stratford-upon-Avon, discovered the location of the movie's shoot, and would have brought back Reeves with him to the grave were it not for some valiant albeit confused Bobbies.

  50. What??? by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    Uhhh. I really liked Keaton as Batman.

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    1. Re:What??? by JohnG · · Score: 2

      Me too, he was the best by far IMHO. Val Kilmer was too Adam West. I think Keaton did a great job of portraying Bruce Wayne as a real person and not just who Batman is when he isn't Batman.

  51. batman vs superman by Khopesh · · Score: 2

    as mentioned on the above referring article, a batman vs superman movie is currently being worked on. how ironic if the poster of this /. article (M.C. Hampster) didn't realize that in making that comparison.

    ..and if you understood the "real" batman, not the Adam West-inspired ones, you would know that Michael Keaton's version was by far the closest to home. batman is a dark and angry man, whose purpose is to scare the shit out of criminals. that first scene with batman holding the punk over the edge of the roof is classic batman.

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    1. Re:batman vs superman by Reziac · · Score: 2

      That's a good point. I didn't like Keaton in the role (and didn't like the movie either) but at least he did capture the character's dark edges.

      Adam West did a good job on the role *as it was written* in the TV series, even tho as scripted, the character was decidedly too, um, cheerful. :) But at the time, dark and edgy just wasn't done; in that era, bad or good on TV were still entirely black or white. No shades of grey allowed.

      (Slaps self on realising colourless pun)

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  52. Re:God isnt real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well according to this trivia, his mom is English, and his father part Chinese and Hawaiian. He does have a certain charisma, and a look that can't categorize his race right away.. an all round cool guy to, with his calm, probably from the buddhism he practices. w00t w00t!

  53. Conan beat Slashdot to the punch by ctr2sprt · · Score: 1
    From his monologue last night:
    "I understand they're considering that Keanu Reeves might play Superman in the new movies. But now instead of being vulnerable to kryptonite, Superman is going to be vulnerable to big words."
  54. Keaton and Keanu Misjudged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I actually think Keanu could do a decent job as Supes, but then again I always hated the character.

    Keaton had the fans up in arms when he was announced. He silenced all his critics.

    George Clooney was one hell of a disappointment, especially after from Dusk til Dawn. I have no idea where everything went wrong with that film but I have a suspicion.

  55. Keaton was the best Batman. by pgrote · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His psycho bent on it was fantastic. Who did you prefer? VAL KILMER? GEORGE CLOONEY? Please ...

    1. Re:Keaton was the best Batman. by JFMulder · · Score: 2

      I agree totally. Val Kiler looked like a youngster while Goerge Cloney had a beer-belly. Keaton was perfect in the role. He was smooth, we was dark and he looked like Bruce Wayne.

  56. Real Superman having a more impressive comeback by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Informative

    In recent news, for those of you who missed it...
    (shortened - please excuse any bad english since I'm translating from Swedish.. perhaps anyone has a good link?)

    Christopher Reeve Defeating His Paralysis

    "For the first time since his spinal paralysis, Christopher Reeve can move fingers and toes. This makes his doctors believe that he might be able to walk again.

    - No one that have been affected by such severe injuries have regained motion and feeling in the way Chris has, said doctor John McDonald at Washington University of Science.

    Breathes On His Own

    In the last months, Christopher Reeve's health has dramatically increased. Besides his motion and feeling abilities, he can breathe on his own for one and a half hour. He is grateful of the progress and says the best thing is that he can feel the hugs from his wife Dana and his three children.

    - To feel the smallest touch is truly a gift, he says in the coming issue of People Weekly.

    Reeve also mentions that he can feel needle stings over large parts of his body, make difference between warm and cold and sharp and blunt.

    But the treatment hasn't been free. His muscle stimulation and special training has cost the 49 year old movie star more than 2,5 million per year (not sure if that's 2,5 million swedish crowns or USD). The costs has partly been covered by his insurance and partly by collections made by his friends in Hollywood."


    So, to me, Superman will still be the only super man to me, especially after reading this.

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    1. Re:Real Superman having a more impressive comeback by Reziac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Translation pretty good, compare to http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/13/10316083 26069.html

      Nerve injuries CAN recover, but continued stimulus is a big key. Real life case: Several decades ago my uncle was trapped under an upended road grader for several hours, while acid dripped from the battery onto his elbow. Ate a hole in his hide and completely destroyed the main nerve that controls everything from elbow to fingertips. Even after the acid burn healed, he had no feeling or motion in the hand or forearm AT ALL, and was not really expected to regain any use of it.

      After 9 months of daily stimulus (mainly massage, with some forced exercise by moving the arm and hand around manually) he began regaining use of the limb. Within a few more months he had full use of the hand again.

      At the time (this was ca. 1967) some progressive doctors believed that if sufficiently stimulated, severed nerves would regrow at a rate of about an inch per month. Which is roughly consistent with my uncle's experience. (Also with my own experience when I severed the nerve in my thumb. Took about a month to regain feeling in the tip.)

      And you're right. Christopher Reeve will be Superman forever, the one and only.

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  57. Reeves rumor; Anthony Hopkins by Robotech_Master · · Score: 2

    According to this article at Superhero Hype, the Reeves thing is just a rumor and not actually true--though all the article really has is hearsay, so it's hard to say whether it is or not. There's a an interview with Brett Ratner in Latino Review, where he mentions he wants Anthony Hopkins for Jor-El, but he doesn't mention Keanu there.

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  59. The best batman? by Roadmaster · · Score: 2

    Keaton might not have been the best choice for Batman, but the producers quickly remedied their mistake by casting a couple of even-worse actors for the role, Val Kilmer and George Clooney both sucked really bad as Batman. While I'm at it, I think the series also went to hell when they took Tim Burton off; Schumacher's visual style is completely opposite to the great, dark atmosphere Burton had created on the first two films.

    1. Re:The best batman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard the reason Schumacher was chosen was because his visuon had more potential to attract a younger audience (kids) and drive up Batman merchandise (toy) sales.

  60. Six Degrees Of Reeves by Dr.+Wu · · Score: 1

    If he takes the part, that will be the third actor named Reeve(s) playing the role of Superman. Kind of bizarre...

    George Reeves (TV Series)
    Christopher Reeve (Movie)
    Keanu Reeve (Movie)

    Heck, if you're going for the original 'Superman', you could probably tie in Steve Reeves as Hercules.

    That's a whole lotta Reeve's

  61. Reeves as Superman by Digital11 · · Score: 1

    Superman: Woah... Lois, I know kung-fu.
    Lois: Show me.

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  62. Walken* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FUCK SHIT Nigger Sauce

    dammit, walken. sorry.

  63. Hope he does better by daves · · Score: 1

    George Reeves, the first TV superman, committed suicide.

    Christopher Reeve is paralyzed.

    Hope Keanu has better luck.

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    1. Re:Hope he does better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      George Reeves committed suicide so well that he plastered over the bulletholes where he had missed himself after he had died.

  64. Possible catch 22 ... by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 1

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  65. Keanu? by captainboogerhead · · Score: 1

    Has there ever been an actor who has ruined a movie so horribly and so single handedly as Keanu ruined Francis Ford Coppala's Dracula?

    "Like, take off, your Royal Vampire Dude!"

    The only other that comes close is perhaps FFC's daughter in Godfather 3, but that's only a marginal possibility.

    Keanu excels at goofy/surfery types. He was great in Rivers' Edge, Bill & Ted and My Own Private Idaho. He even managed to pull off drama.

    I don't know about Superman; I mean Supe's so bland even Andie MacDowell could play him.

    As long as they turn Krypton into Planet Malibu where everybody uses anti-grav surfboards as personal transportation devices, then he won't have to give up his accent and he might be able to concentrate on acting.

    Where the hell did he get that accent anyway? He grew up in Suburban Toronto, ferchrissake!

    1. Re:Keanu? by Reziac · · Score: 2

      Actually, watch Stallone in Nighthawks. His character IS kindof a nerd, and he pulls it off really well. IMO his best real acting, since you can readily forget it's Stallone and believe in the character for himself.

      Sometimes they'll surprise you.

      But I still can't see Keanu as Superman!

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    2. Re:Keanu? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget that Stallone wrote Rocky. Don't let the tough guy looks fool ya... dude has the brains. Oscar was funny too.

    3. Re:Keanu? by re-Verse · · Score: 1

      Tats a smart idea- if only stallone wasn't so old now - isn't Superman perpetually young or somehting like that? A young Stallone could fit the Superman role perfectly while keeping the Clark Kent straight-man cover very well.

      Good idea.

    4. Re:Keanu? by sconeu · · Score: 2

      As long as they turn Krypton into Planet Malibu where everybody uses anti-grav surfboards as personal transportation devices, then he won't have to give up his accent and he might be able to concentrate on acting.

      Let's cast Keanu as the Silver Surfer!!!

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    5. Re:Keanu? by scaryjohn · · Score: 1

      I hope you were kidding. Paul "I also like bananas" Metzler as superman? Of course, when i first read that, i thought you meant Kevin Kline which would have been worse.

      On the other hand, i can't think of someone else i could cast as Superman. I'd say Tim Robbins, if he wasn't 45, 6'4" and skinny. I can't think of anyone who really has the screen presence of the prior two actors. Maybe that's the point.

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    6. Re:Keanu? by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

      Try not to typecast actors.. I actually think he can pull it off. I think Klein could pull it off, though he might be a bit young.

    7. Re:Keanu? by Zarf · · Score: 2

      Heck while were debating which superman to cast, why not Jerry O'Connel? I bet he'll come cheap and do a decent job of playing Clark and Super as different characters. 'specially since Superman can crush all villians like bugs anyhow.

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    8. Re:Keanu? by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 2
      Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Chris "Oz" Ostreicher.

      Suck me beautiful!

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  67. Keanu Reeves as Superman? Puh-leeze by Aexia · · Score: 2

    Then again, that's what everyone said about Tobey McGuire as Spiderman.

    According the rumors, the script does the whole origin story. Keanu might be a good fit for a Superman just starting out.

  68. Bad, but not the worst by brooks_talley · · Score: 2

    Well, Whoa-man is probably at least better than Nicolas Cage, who was previously on board the project.

    http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/superman5.ht ml

    Cheers
    -b

    1. Re:Bad, but not the worst by RoninM · · Score: 2
      Speaking of Coming Attractions, the bottom of the parent's linked page aims to put kibash on the Keanu rumor:

      Latino Review also claims that they spoke to another journalist at the press event who said he asked Ratner if there was any truth to the rumor that Keanu Reeves will play Superman. According to the story LR reported, Ratner told the journalist it's false.

      It's hearsay, but, really, the Keanu rumor doesn't sound terribly likely. (Then again, Nick Cage was connected to the thing at one time, so who knows?)

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  69. Keanu Reeves typecasting hell by fluxrad · · Score: 2

    Ok. Here goes...

    Keanu Reeves is a pretty good actor, so long as he's in a cyberpunk movie. Most of my friends and I agree that the man has no talent outside of this realm (Think Don John in Much Ado About Nothing). However, when placed in the Matrix, or Jonnie Mnemonic, he actually does a pretty good job. The reason is simple. He's adept at playing spacy young iconoclasts, which pretty much describes every cyberpunk role he's had.

    Of course, this means he's going to completely fuck up the role of Superman.

    Offtopic: Keaton was the best fucking batman EVER. Possibly the best cast superhero ever, though I'm rooting for Nick Cage to kick his ass in the upcoming Ghost Rider. (Who else would you pick as better? Dolf Lundgren in The Punisher? LMFAO).

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    1. Re:Keanu Reeves typecasting hell by WebMasterJoe · · Score: 2
      though I'm rooting for Nick Cage to kick his ass in the upcoming Ghost Rider.
      Don't you mean Ghostwriter? I think he'll be replacing Gabby.
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    2. Re:Keanu Reeves typecasting hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keanu Reeves is a pretty good actor, so long as he's in a cyberpunk movie. Most of my friends and I agree that the man has no talent outside of this realm

      There's one other area he excels in: Southern Cal surfer roles. Those would be the "Bill and Ted's" movies, and Point Break.

    3. Re:Keanu Reeves typecasting hell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's kind of scary cyberpunk and SoCal surfer are almost the same roles.

    4. Re:Keanu Reeves typecasting hell by BoneFlower · · Score: 2

      Can't recall the name of the film, but Keanu Reeves did play a psycho serial killer well... he played this killer who sent a cop photos of his victims before the killing to give him a chance to save them. Great movie. Keanu was awesome in it.

    5. Re:Keanu Reeves typecasting hell by fluxrad · · Score: 1

      There's one other area he excels in: Southern Cal surfer roles. Those would be the "Bill and Ted's" movies, and Point Break.

      that's it! keanu is just very good at being amazed. so, in one type of movies he's amazed by all kinds of electronics and blinking lights and shit. in the other type of movies, he's amazed by how big the waves are, dude.

      and in superman, you bet your ass he'll just be amazed at the fact that he can pick up a car.

      "woah, cryptonite is a total downer, bro."

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    6. Re:Keanu Reeves typecasting hell by rm+-vrf · · Score: 1

      It's probably The Watcher.

  70. From Bill & Ted to Buddha by Gefiltefish · · Score: 1

    The role of Superman does indeed seem to be a stretch for Keanu; "I can fly, dude! Excellent!"

    However, is anyone familiar with the movie Little Buddha?? For those of you not tainted by viewing this flick (God help the rest of us), Keanu played the Buddha... Even having watched it myself, It's hard to imagine the seat of Eastern wisdom being portrayed by the same actor who I cannot disconnect from the Bill & Ted movies (Keanu's best work, in my opinion).

    No matter how dopey-dudalicious he is playing Superman, it cannot compare in terms of pure cheek-biting evil.

  71. Matrix Superman! by RedWolves2 · · Score: 1

    Tank! Load the fly program!

  72. Will Smith. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'd be cool if they had a black Superman. Will Smith for example.

    1. Re:Will Smith. by happyhippy · · Score: 1

      Nah, Hollywood would auto stereotype him as a jive talking, white man joke cracking pimp.

    2. Re:Will Smith. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Nah, Hollywood would auto stereotype him as a jive talking, white man joke cracking pimp.


      Sad but true. Ever sadder that he would let that happen. Avery Brooks or Sam Jackson wouldn't.

    3. Re:Will Smith. by FCAdcock · · Score: 1

      Too bad that Sam Jackson's carreer has gotten to where it's at. It's a shame that he no longer gets leading roles in movies. He is such a great actor, and it's such a waste for him to pittle his time away on parts as supporting acts. He should be up there with Robyn Williams (One of the best actors on earth. He's a believable comic, as well as a believable murderer...)

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  73. Celeb. Jeopardy by Eric+Destiny · · Score: 1

    "I know kung-fu!"

    "For the last time, no you don't."

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    1. Re:Celeb. Jeopardy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The meek shall inherit the earth

      Yeah, what's left of it.

  74. Keaton was a GOOD batman... by TWX_the_Linux_Zealot · · Score: 2

    He was just twisted enough, as played by Keaton, to be plausible. I'd much rather see a messed up, dark, brooding person as Batman than someone whose most popular role was as an elvis-alike...

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    1. Re:Keaton was a GOOD batman... by LordSkippy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The reason some people (especially before the movie was released) thought Keaton was a bad choice for Batman, was that they didn't see him as having the physical stature associated with Batman. However, the reason he was the best Batman, of the modern three, is not because he was the best match for Batman, but the best match for Bruce Wayne. Since the actor's physical appearance is almost completely hidden by the Batman costume, he doesn't really need to be that close of a match. But since there isn't a costume for Bruce, he needs to match well. Keaton made the most conviencing Bruce, and that's what really mattered. Because, if you buy into him as the dark and deeply disturbed multi-millionaire Wayne (Val was too young looking, and Clooney looks too well adjusted), then all you need to do is buy into the costume as Batman in order for Keaton to be a good pick.

      Superman is a different story. The custome doesn't really hide the physical appearance, or at least not as much as Batman's. Although, he might be able to pull off Clark, if he stay's away from his catch phase!

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  75. Latino Review says no by SeanCier · · Score: 1

    http://www.latinoreview.com/moviereviews/2002/redd ragon/brettratner.html

    Latino Review is a quite reputable source of film info (as reliable as online sources get, at least). They have a brief interview with Brett Ratner and Anthony Hopkins (both much more probably attached than Keanu, as of yesterday), and in the course of it deny the Keanu rumour.

    -spc

  76. This could be good by Holi · · Score: 1

    Wait hear me out. Look at the history of the role. Every actor who has played The Man of Steel has fallen. The part is cursed. Let's see George shot himself, Christopher broke his neck, We could be rid of Keanu for good.

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  77. Up, up, and away, duuude! by Apuleius · · Score: 2

    This is awesome. Time to stock up on weed.

  78. Why pick on Keanu? by vanyel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What makes Keanu a worse actor than say Sean Connery? As near as I can tell, what most people mean when they say he can't act is that he has a particular style that tends to come through no matter the role. That's definitely true of Sean, and he's one of the world's favorites. I'm really curious, because I think he's done a good job in a wide variety of roles.

    1. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may be right, but Sean Connery comes off as debonair (possibly due to his accent), even in his "younger" roles as Bond.

      Keanu just comes off as stiff and not well spoken. This may have something to do with the whole "Bill and Ted" stigma, but it does hold true to some degree. In the mid-90's Keanu did a stage version of "Hamlet" in the city where I grew up, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. I personally did not see him (although hundreds did, and he only did it for a couple of weeks). ALL reviews, formal and informal, indicated he did OK, but really only did well when he was able to move around - he was not strong on the dialogue.

      And now he's stuck with the whole Matrix persona - getting stellar dialogue like "Whoa!", "I know kung-fu!", and "There is no spoon!" (that last one is actually resonably cool, IMHO)

    2. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by Garion911 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow.. You made me actaully try and think of Sean Connery as Superman.. Superman w/ a british accent.. That would be...... Umm.. Cool? Or how about a Superman w/ 007 type toys? Hmmmm..

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    3. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a Superman with some of the other Supermen. That young Superman, the Man of Steel, and all that.

    4. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by gedanken · · Score: 1

      Have you seen Much Ado About Nothing (1993)? Keanu ruined that movie for me.

    5. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by geoswan · · Score: 2
      What makes Keanu a worse actor than say Sean Connery?

      Good point.

      Acting is an artificial thing. And conventions change. Consider Burt Lancaster or Kirk Douglas. Those guys had particularly scenery-chewing styles -- especially when they were young.

      Conventions change.

      Speed wasn't his only good performance. Didn't he do a good job in Devil's Advocate?

    6. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by just4now · · Score: 1

      Not saying that Keanu is good or bad but the only decent Batman movie was the one Keaton was in. Go figure.

    7. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by coupland · · Score: 2

      Since when is dumb jock a "style"?

    8. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by IHateEverybody · · Score: 4, Informative
      I think that the Self-Made Critic put it best in his review of The Matrix:

      Any review of a Keanu movie must start with Keanu himself. Basically, just how bad is he in this one?

      Is he playing a role that adeptly hides how unbelievably horrible he is (Parenthood, the Bill and Ted movies)? Or is he playing a role that broadcasts his complete and utter lameness for all to see(everything else)?

      Actually, there is a third class of Keanu films. These are films that are so packed with other distractions - explosions, car chases, semi-naked hotties - that Keanu is given little actual acting to do. These movies include Speed... and... and ... did I mention Speed?

      Well you can slap The Matrix into that third category. Keanu is so buried in effects and gunfire that he has little to do other than pose. And he poses pretty well.
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    9. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by yobbo · · Score: 2

      IMO he was fantastic in Point Break.

    10. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by fluxrad · · Score: 1

      uh. keaton did batman and batman returns.
      BR

      both directed by tim burton, both damned good movies.

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    11. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by SarekOfVulcan · · Score: 1

      >>You made me actaully try and think of Sean Connery as Superman

      Sean Connery as The Dark Knight, on the other hand...

    12. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by May+Kasahara · · Score: 1

      I saw it. The one wart on an otherwise beautiful film-- and the greatest proof there is that Keanu Reeves is no thespian.

    13. Re:Why pick on Keanu? by majestyk2000 · · Score: 1

      Yeah! Sean Connery in The Dark Knight Returns. He'd make a great old Batman.

  79. Christopher Reeve can still do it. by clovis · · Score: 1

    Actually, it turns out none of these actors can fly. It's done with wires attached to the actor. So Christopher Reeve can still do the job and fly as well as any of the others. They can leave the wires on to do other things, such as walking, and he would still be a better actor than almost anyone in those Batman movies (other than Keaton)
    Remember Christopher Reeve doing the "Hey Superman is drunk!" sequence?

    To Keanu's credit is his work in "The Gift", he was spot on in that role and not a "Whoa" in sight.

    1. Re:Christopher Reeve can still do it. by RedWolves2 · · Score: 1

      Although I found your comment funny the truth is that he can not do it. Have you heard him talk in any interview he has giving. He struggles to breath which makes it extremly difficult to talk. HE can only say one or two words at a time then has to take another breath. I am sure we don't want a superman that talks like Captain Kirk.

      On a side note, I have read that he has regained some sensation back in his fingers and he can actually feel his kids hug him again. I think that by the time they go to shoot superman Christopher Reeve will actually be walking again for reel. Wouldn't that make a great story?

    2. Re:Christopher Reeve can still do it. by JLyle · · Score: 1
      I think that by the time they go to shoot Superman, Christopher Reeve will actually be walking again for reel .
      ... no pun intended.
  80. michael keaton bad?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I'll readily participate ion any Keanu "Dude" bashing, but Michael Keaton was FAR AND AWAY the best Batman in the series. In fact, he rocked in both 1 and 2, providing an excellent balance between an educated and eccentric bruce wayne and dark and tortured batman.

    I can't believe you actually thought that was bad casting. Most people acknowledge that the loss of Keaton and Burton is the reason the series turned into such a deplorable mess.

    -rt

  81. The Real Reason. . . by Monkey-Man2000 · · Score: 1

    is that they are trying to keep the Reeve[s] => Superman trend alive.

    i.e.:
    George Reeves => old Superman B&W show
    Christopher Reeve => Superman moves we know and love.
    Keanu Reeves => now.

    I guess it makes the decision for who to star easier on the producers.

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  82. Dean Cain? by DoomHaven · · Score: 1

    Why not Dean Cain respising the role of Superman? Dean Cain did an excellent job, IMHO, on TV.

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  83. Someone brings in a chunk of kryptonite.. by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 2

    Superman: "whoaaaaaaaaa" (in a grimacing about to die way)

  84. Super Curse by Samawi+I · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I were Keanu I would be veeery leary of taking on this role:

    George Reeves committed suicide (or was murdered);

    Christopher Reeves became paralyzed;

    Reeve(s)-Superman is statistically a cursed combination;->
    Indeed, any actor should probably stay clear of this one...

    Best
    Samawi

    1. Re:Super Curse by rmohr02 · · Score: 2

      Ahh, but Christopher Reeve is starting to regain feeling. Don't bother submitting it--I tried twice.

    2. Re:Super Curse by Reziac · · Score: 2

      And isn't there another actor connected with the role who had some equally unpleasant misadventure?? I thought I remembered some other incident, but can't come up with it.

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    3. Re:Super Curse by xactoguy · · Score: 1

      That's the exact reason that they would want Kenau for this role... to get him out of the way ;)

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    4. Re:Super Curse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's nothing. Last weekend, I was watching some Charlie Chaplin short movies from 1914. Apparently, everybody involved with these shorts in any way, has died! Most of their children have even died!

    5. Re:Super Curse by Cheeko · · Score: 2

      I believe one of the female leads from either the movie of the show went insane and possibly committed suicide, but I'm not completely sure.

    6. Re:Super Curse by Reziac · · Score: 2

      That doesn't sound familiar, but maybe I'm thinking of one of the supporting cast?? One of the Jimmys, maybe??

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  85. Re: Bruce Campbell! by Jogar+the+Barbarian · · Score: 1

    I second that!!!!

    http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/N/013/22/57/He ad shot.jpg

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  86. OMG! M. Keaton rocked as batman by zaqattack911 · · Score: 1

    You must be a complete moron!

    Keaton was the only batman I could take seriously, most of the other batmans were seriously pitiful.

    1. Re:OMG! M. Keaton rocked as batman by RedWolves2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree George Clooney and Val Kilmer couldn't fill the shoes of Micheal Keaton.

      They should have stopped after the first two.

      Of course the same could be said of Adam West. *POW* *BANG*

  87. Michael KEaton was the best batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Douchebag,

    Michael Keaton was the best batman. I dont know who was worse, kilmer or clooney..

  88. Re: Brad Pitt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brad Pitt has actually played some very different characters. Consider, just off the top of my head:

    The Mexican (his character was well meaning, but lacking all manner of common sense)
    Fight Club (megalomaniac)
    Snatch (a gypsy "boxer" - not at all like the sparring you saw in Fight Club) ... not to mention Sleepers, 12 Monkeys, Kalifornia -- I'm sure I could come up with more if I tried. Brad Pitt gets a little bit of the "pretty boy" rep like Keanu, but Pitt has shown a lot more range in his films.

  89. It's better than Nicholas Cage. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they should find a way to have the cape cover Christopher Reeves wheelchair.

  90. Time for a name change. by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

    [wil@hollywood]$ mv /actor/unemployed/wil.wheaton /actor/rich/famous/wil.reeves

    1. Re:Time for a name change. by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

      I thought AJ hired you!

      User Friendly dot org /a

    2. Re:Time for a name change. by dr00g911 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Gotta hand it to ya, Wil...

      Whenever I think you might have played out the whole geek-chic thing (as I'm a Hollywood-disillusioned-gen-X-type, to name my own label), you seem to come up with the most hysterical (and almost unsettlingly geeky) one-liners, like... ever.

      Pretty damned reliably, too.

      Proud to have you amongst our ranks (as there's no point burning Karma on a 5).

      Err. Maybe I just did ;-)

      Props & salúd!

      --dr00gy

    3. Re:Time for a name change. by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

      Why didn't you just do that after TNG? tsk tsk.

  91. Young Attorney Jonathon Harker vs QB Shane Falco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I all have is to say is Bram Stoker Dacula was difficult to watch. Now, the character Shane Falco was not not too bad. I guess as long as he doesn't have too many long monologues, Dude.

  92. Yup. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've thought of that and he could actually pull it off. And if you want a black Batman? Samuel L. Jackson, but then that's kind of obvious.

  93. Dude! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's awesome! He's like....richeous for the part, you know. Whoaa...it's freakin me out!

  94. As long as its not that by happyhippy · · Score: 1
    Van Diesel wanker.

    Even the ugly mutant guy from The Goonies who pretends to be Superman would be better.

  95. Who should be superman? by TheKubrix · · Score: 1

    One word: Putty

  96. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FP

  97. Keaton was the greatest, and here's why by LostSinner · · Score: 2, Insightful
    keaton pulled off the whole batman thing better than anyone else has, or will (considering the current crop of stars out there) precisely because he pulled off the whole 'brooding spoiled brat who has his life thrown askew by the murder of his parents' when no one else could come close.

    batman was never supposed to be a superhero. he was meant to be the anti-hero in ways much more apparent (and believable) than any other comic... no superpowers; just drive, revenge, money, and ingenuity. the latter movies simply tried to pull off batman as being a gadget pimp without a care in the world... which just doesn't work when people know otherwise. keaton managed to convince us that there was a method to the madness, and a purpose to the gadgets, while kilmer and clooney's versions put the gadgets in because they were cool and the killing in because he 'had to'. come on! the whole reason batman goes after the joker is because he wants revenge... he's pissed and he wants the smiling face on a platter... there was no 'had to' there... he could have just been a worthless playboy, but he had a reason.

    you can say that the cinematics are incredible in today's movies, but you'll never convince me that a movie without believable motive is anything more than a waste of time.

    1. Re:Keaton was the greatest, and here's why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a dickhead.

    2. Re:Keaton was the greatest, and here's why by shaniber · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear! Kilmer could have pulled off a believe Bruce Wayne, I think, if he had a good script, but CLooney just was NOT the right fit for Batman. smiled too much, I think.

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    3. Re:Keaton was the greatest, and here's why by Vesuvius_2 · · Score: 1

      you're right, clooney and kilmer played batman like he really was a rich playboy (and enjoyed it) whereas keaton was a batman who never rested and whose moments of pleasure were always haunted with anger and depression.

    4. Re:Keaton was the greatest, and here's why by KshGoddess · · Score: 1

      I'd like to throw a me-too into the pot. With an exception. Keaton was the best Bruce Wayne. He was an okay Bats, but that's secondary. A lot of what made it a good (not great) film was the darkness and the image that Keaton and Burton gave to the Bruce Wayne persona. Bruce Wayne looked uncomfortable in his own skin, and very comfortable as his alter-ego, which is part of the 'psychosis' that is Batman.

      As background, let me say that I gave away all of my comics years ago, with one exception: The Killing Joke. I was a big bat-fan during high school and early college days.

      As for Keanu playing Superman, Ick. Someone who fits the part better, whether known or unknown, needs to be found. Superman isn't as damaged as bats, and could be played by someone reasonably dark-haired/light-eyed/slightly eloquent. Keanu doesn't fit the last requirement for me. I put Keanu in the GWB category. Big words aren't part of his vocabulary, and from what I remember, Supes' alter ego is a *JOURNALIST*, with a grasp of the English Language.

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  98. You're a dickhead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It must be tough being a dickhead like you.

    1. Re:You're a dickhead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, and you are something super, eh? Your smell is superbad and superstrong, but that's about it, stinkerman.

  99. You're a dickhead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes...you are.

  100. You're a dickhead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does "rt" stand for retarded toad?

  101. Ha! by BlackGriffen · · Score: 2

    Adam West would have made a better Superman than Batman. He played a campy do-gooder. The only edge he had was playing a good strategist and detective, but that's not something you have time for in a movie. Remember, Batman was a psychotic vigilante who had a nearly split personality.

    The Batman that Adam West portrayed was the neutered Batman of that 1950's. That was not Batman. That Batman didn't even hav a dark side, let alone the borderline personality.

    BlackGriffen

  102. You're a dickhead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes Vanyel, you are indeed a dickhead.

  103. You're a dickhead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Latino Review? That's a joke right? I'm sure that they get all the good scoops...dickhead.

  104. You're a dickhead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, I'd prefer you as Superman. My mistake, I meant Stupidman...dickhead.

  105. Not Really by BlackGriffen · · Score: 1

    AFAIK, they're just using traditional techniques on him (unless hes getting some sort of experimental neuron growth factor on the side), it's just that he can afford nearly constant therapy. It's the power of a fat wad of cash.

    BlackGriffen

  106. possible lines for superman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "--woh I can fly "
    "dude you like totally kryptonite"

  107. Jason Alexander! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He would bring some edginess to the role

  108. Don't let him do this again! by Roosey · · Score: 1

    Keanu already took A Walk in the Clouds before and it was terrible! What idiot thought that having him take a flight through the clouds would be better? :]

  109. Please... by tmark · · Score: 2

    noone suggest Wil Wheaton.

    1. Re:Please... by IHateEverybody · · Score: 2
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  110. Everyone seems to forget Superman #1 by JonWan · · Score: 1

    Everyone's talking about the Reeve(s) that have played Superman, what about Kirk Alyn? He played Superman in the 1948-1950 serials. I met him in '92 or '93 in Dallas and got his autograph. I had a nice conversation with him about the making of the old serials. He also played "Blackhawk".

  111. Superman Curse by heptapod · · Score: 1

    Does this mean that Keanu will be subject to the Superman curse if he accepts the role? His last name does maintain the pattern.

    Christopher Reeve - Quadriplegic
    George Reeves - Suicide
    Keanu Reeves - ???

  112. morpheus by fredopalus · · Score: 0

    Superman... You are the one.

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  113. Have none of you learned anything yet? by Guppy06 · · Score: 2

    We're talking about Hollywood here. They don't give a damn about such extraneous things as "character depth" or "plot development," all they want are what they consider to be sex symbols running around in skin-tight outfits. It's what brings in the money.

    If you want a decent Superman, turn on Cartoon Network. You should know better by now to seek him at the movie theaters.

  114. What Keaton got Right by invid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Keaton portrayed someone who was damaged. You could see in him someone who was uncomfortable dealing with the niceties of his high society surroundings, someone who knew that there was a dark thing writhing in the city that could only be fought against by something equally dark. The other players of Batman treated him as a one dimensional heroic figure.

    I thought the first Batman movie was excellent. If only Jack had been 20 years younger he would have been the perfect Joker. He still pulled off a fine job.

    The second movie introduced some nearly over-the-top performances (Danny DeVito and Christopher Walken) that seemed to give permission to the people who produced the next couple of movies to return to the campiness of the television series. The formula that is the theme of Batman (person is emotionally and physically wounded, person puts on a mask and exacts revenge on the rest of the world) is made truely formulamatic in the last few films. Tim Burton realized that such a formula could be made into camp unless you had actors with depth who could flesh out the struggle of dual persona. That is where Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson, and Michelle Pfeiffer succeeded.

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    1. Re:What Keaton got Right by Wicked · · Score: 1

      I agree whole heartedly. Well said.

  115. "Dude, it's Lex Luthor!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How's it goin' Luthor-dude?"

  116. Much Ado by paranoid.android · · Score: 1

    Keanu Reeves is a pretty good actor, so long as he's in a cyberpunk movie. Most of my friends and I agree that the man has no talent outside of this realm (Think Don John in Much Ado About Nothing).

    Actually, Don John is supposed to be a wooden, one-sided character. I thought Keanu was particularly apt at portraying him. In all seriousness, though, I think you're right about what roles Keanu is good for, though he might surprise us if he portrays Superman. Right now, though, I have a tough time picturing him in red and blue tights...

  117. Neological Meltdown by LordSmada · · Score: 1

    Okay... to much to fast. First off, Keaton was good as Batman, way cooler than Clooney... I mean for God's sake, why.... why!!! As for Keanu as Superman, I think I'm going to hurt myself... Now Tobey was great as Spiderman and all but Superman would better be played by an animated gif file... I think Warner Bros. has been spending to much time on Smallville.

  118. ok... by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 2

    i've said this before and i'll say it again. the next superman can only be Bruce Campbell.

    no arguements.

    there is no equal.

    keanu reeves????? wtf??????

    1. Re:ok... by JLester · · Score: 2

      I hadn't thought of it, but he does look the part, great suggestion.

      Jason

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    2. Re:ok... by JMYoda · · Score: 1

      Bruce Campbell might be too old to play Supes but I'd check it out. In fact Bruce Campbell could star in a remake of "Plan 9 from Outer Space" and I'd be there.
      Hey, actually that's not a bad idea....

      "You earthlings and your stupid minds. STUPID! STUPID!

      *ZZAAPPP*

      "Smart... Stupid... I'm the guy with the ray-gun."

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    3. Re:ok... by HeavensTrash · · Score: 1

      No, i disagree. Bruce Campbell is MUCH more well fitted to play The Punisher than Superman.

  119. Superman is an illegal alien by invid · · Score: 2

    He was not born in the U.S. Heck, he was not born on earth. You can't really call him a white man because he is not a "man", in the human sense.

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    1. Re:Superman is an illegal alien by IHateEverybody · · Score: 4, Funny

      He was not born in the U.S. Heck, he was not born on earth.

      Still, you have to admire his willingness to stand up for Truth, Justice, and the American Way when he isn't even eligible to run for president.

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    2. Re:Superman is an illegal alien by MainframeKiller · · Score: 1


      Still, you have to admire his willingness to stand up for Truth, Justice, and the American Way when he isn't even eligible to run for president.

      You are both wrong. Superman was created by a Canadian

      Man, I'm sick of Canada being in the shadows of the USA. Did I mention we also invented basketball, telephone, radio and insulin?

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    3. Re:Superman is an illegal alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did I mention we also invented basketball, telephone, radio and insulin?

      As well as the words "hoser", "eh" and "Loverboy".

      You Canadians are fucking geniuses.

    4. Re:Superman is an illegal alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Superman specifically fucking says he fights for "truth, justice, and the American way". I don't give a shit if he was made in Canada. I thought you Canadians were always pissing your pants crying because "American" doesn't just refer to the USA, but a bunch of countries including Canada. So when we say "truth, justice, and the American way", shouldn't you assume we're talking about you as well???? Otherwise you just perpetuate the thing you are complaining about.

      Of course you Canadians just love to be whiny bitches, so you are probably just looking for a reason to piss yourself.

      Fucking America, Jr.

  120. as seen on www.fark.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hollywood is officially out of ideas"

    Keanu Reeves - Batman?

    Arnold Schwarzenegger - T3 (same intro sfx as T2 even)

    Incredible Hulk - again? wasn't bad enough before?

    all the other comic book movies...

    what a world we live in... making money redoing good geek stuff in the most horrible way possible (Spider man sucked too).

  121. Keanu? by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There's nothing super about Keanu. There's nothing Super about Keanu either. Clark Kent needs to be muscular and yet VERY button-down with a wry charm and amazing command of the language about him. Superman needs to be stoic and heroic with bulges everywhere...including his mind. Keanu is none of these things in any role or physical appearance he's ever had. His fame is rightly from being the 90's grunge guy. It's like trying to get Stallone to play a nerd.

    Instead, I think they should use Chris Klein.

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  122. You dolt by inteller · · Score: 0

    Micheal Keaton was the best Batman you idiot. Kilmer was to smooth for the role and Clooney was gay batman.

  123. Wow! by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Can't wait to see Superman giving a blowjob!!!

    1. Re:Wow! by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2

      Can't wait to see Supermangiving a blowjob!!!

  124. Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most Excellent dudes!

  125. Re: Bruce Campbell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you even say about Bruce Campbell as Superman?

    BOOYAH!

    He's got the chin for it.
    He's reltaivly unknown (Lets face it, most people out there in the 'real world' haven't seen Evil Dead 1/2, Army of Darkness, or would recognize him from Spiderman. Jack of all Trades was really Jack of all Ratings, leaving him with a recuring, minor, role in Xena. So, yeah, more or less unknown.

    And then, Jimmy could be played by Ted Rami.
    He should get more roles anyway.

    Actually if he were to get a big role, how about "Army of Darknes 2", Never enough zombie slaying movies. And besides, cheezy horror NEVER goes out of style.

    Am I on topic?
    Yes I Am.

  126. Two Reeves by Daengbo · · Score: 1

    That would be both Steve from the early TV show, and Chris, from the movies. There was a similar stink, if I remember, about Chris being chosen for his last name, as well. I believe Steve committed suicide during Superman's television heyday

    1. Re:Two Reeves by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Yeah, I know... George, not Steve...It's been a long time and I'm getting old, having watched the shows on TV

    2. Re:Two Reeves by JMYoda · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um Steve Reeves was the muscle man who played Hercules in bad 50s and 60s Italian movies. George Reeves is the actor who played Superman in the 50s (and quite well until the show got dumbed down over time.)He was also the one who died tragically either of a suicide or a murder (no one is quite sure which I think.) He wasn't the first live-action Superman however, that was Kirk Alyn in a 1948 serial. Quite good if you can get past his baggy tights and the fact he turns into a cartoon when he flies (kind of a retro-version of Spidey's CGI work) Also it's Christopher Reeve... No S at the end. I make that mistake a lot too and I believe I did in my earlier post in fact. *Hits self over the head with a can of SPAM * BTW Keanu would suck as Superman. I can't picture Superman saying "Dude" or "Woah". How ever he couldn't be as bad as Nick Cage would have been if Tim Burton had his way. Personally I hope they leave Superman alone until a director with vision wants to do it (like a Peter Jackson). Don't just make it to cash in on the super hero craze, please! Richard Donner had vision... Until Clarke gets to New York (grrr I hate it not being Metropolis) then the film gets kind of cheesy. The first hour or so though is brilliant. The second film is very good fun even if it plays fast and loose with the Superman legend but after that the films went to hell. Now if they could get a visionary director who could do a full film to match the first half of the Donner film AND find an actor even half as good as Christopher Reeve... That would be great but I won't hold my breath.

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    3. Re:Two Reeves by theperplepigg · · Score: 1

      personally, i don't find keanu to be the greatest actor in the world, and i certainly don't want to ever see him even attempt to be superman, but i still believe there are many more movies in which he does NOT say "Dude" or "Woah" than those in which he does. By saying something like that, one might be led to believe that you judge an actor's entire career on the basis that he played in a really shitty movie early in his career. Not defending keanu so much as pointing out the ignorance you _portray_ (reguardless of how much you may actually know about keanu's career). --p

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    4. Re:Two Reeves by JMYoda · · Score: 1

      Don't be dense. Of course he hasn't said it in EVERY movie! I know he didn't in "Dracula" for one but it wasn't just in the Bill & Ted films either. He said both "Woah" and "Dude" in the Matrix I believe ("Woah" for sure) and that was a very good movie. He also said both "Woah" and "Dude" in Lawrence Kasdan's "I Love you to Death" another very good film. I'm sure he has in other films too ("Speed" perhaps but don't quote me.)

      However I was just making a joke about his publicly perceived persona. No where did I say he said it in every film. So it is you who seems to be ignorant or maybe just spiteful because you feel I attacked an actor you like, which I didn't BTW I just don't see him as Superman. I actually have many of Keanu's films in my collection, "Speed", "Dracula", "I Love you to Death", "The Matrix" "The Devil's Advocate" etc... I think I may even have the old Bill & Ted video from when I was a teenager. Hey it has George Carlin in it at least! :)

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  127. Keanu? by Magus311X · · Score: 1

    Gee... why not...

    Rick Moranis?

    Or... Sean Connery?

    Or... Bob Saget?

    Seriously, they'd be better suited.
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  128. Wild Wild West by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course that's what we all thought about Wild Wild West.

  129. So that's why by nastro · · Score: 1

    Christopher Reeve regained some movement. Someone must put a stop to this nonsense. Better him than any of us, I say.

  130. Superman by freakazzoo · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised they didn't cast Jim Carrey (he sells tickets right?)

    BTW Val Kilmer was a mistake, Keaton was great

  131. Not according to the director... by NFNNMIDATA · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently, Brett Ratner (Rush Hour 1 & 2, Red Dragon) is the director (groan), and he says ix-ne on the eanu-ke. Or so they say here:

    http://www.latinoreview.com/moviereviews/2002/redd ragon/brettratner.html

  132. Curse... by aztektum · · Score: 2

    It's Christopher Reeve, but the point I want to make is...

    George Reeves shot and killed (suicide?) under dubious circumstances.

    Christopher Reeve is paralyzed from the neck down (well until recently it seems).

    Keanu would be well advised to stay away

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  133. Oh please God, No! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just imagine him in the first scene:

    "Hi its me, Ted, er SuperMan!"

  134. Reeve in a very different role by Reziac · · Score: 2

    If you want to see Christopher Reeve in a very different sort of role, check out the made-for-TV movie "Bump in the Night" -- I won't spoil it for you since much of the enjoyment lies in working out who is really up to what (ignore the utterly inaccurate blurb at http://us.imdb.com/Title?0101520) but let's just say you'll be totally shocked. I'd never been particularly impressed with Reeve as an *actor* (other than Superman, where he fit the role like he was made for it), but "Bump in the Night" showed what he could really do with a complex role that involved a lot of subtly-dark character development. His character was SO utterly believable that I found myself wondering what had happened to him as a child, to make him turn out how he did. It had *reality*.

    [Must have been some good directing job, too. This film also has the best work I've seen from Wings Hauser, another actor whose previous work was merely "okay".]

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    1. Re:Reeve in a very different role by SarekOfVulcan · · Score: 1

      Not to mention _Noises_Off_. One of my great regrets in life is that I will never see that cast do it on stage.

  135. Here's the rumour killer by NeoCode · · Score: 1

    Neo is not Superman. Ratner is directing. Hopkins is Jor-El.

  136. Keanu as the Man of Steel... by efedora · · Score: 1

    Worst Superman EVER!

  137. Re: Bruce Campbell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm... what about Brisco County, Jr? You mention Jack of All Trades, and Xena... and leave that off the list? And who can forget him in Escape from LA?

  138. NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't there anything that white America can have for itself anymore? I'm not a racist or anything, but Africanizing everything just for the sake of Africanizing it strikes me as a horrible idea. Superman is a classic American tradition. Let's leave it the way it is, particularly out of respect for Christopher Reeve.

  139. I can see it now: by DarkHelmet · · Score: 4, Funny
    When they decide to remake Superman 1:
    (For Reference)

    Wil "Wheaton" Reeves as Superman
    Patrick "Stewart" Brando as Jor-el
    Brent "Spiner" Hackman as Lex Luther
    Jonathan "Frakes" Beatty as Otis
    Margot "Marina Sirtis" Kidder as Lois Lane.

    Yes Mr. Reeves, most of us would pay to see that.

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    1. Re:I can see it now: by zCyl · · Score: 2

      Brent "Spiner" Hackman as Lex Luther

      Wow, I actually think that guy would make an excellent Lex Luther.

    2. Re:I can see it now: by Dehumanizer · · Score: 1

      It's LuthOr. Not LuthEr.

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  140. Remember who set the standard... by danielrm26 · · Score: 1

    Remember that when the guy said 'Superman' was white what he really meant was 'Christopher Reeve' was white.

    Reeve is the standard. Period. That is the reason that deviation from that type of actor could possibly seem strange - not because of some racial issue.

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  141. Two Words by RobertFisher · · Score: 2

    Johnny Mnemonic

    'nuff said

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    1. Re:Two Words by Deluge · · Score: 2

      Yeah? It was a fun flick, alright? I'm sick of everyone ragging on that movie. I really don't know or care about any objections of it being some lame ripoff of whatever sci-fi short story or novel, because in and of itself the movie is just fun. A little cheesy, B-ish even, but just as silly as fun as other movies which have a pretty solid cult following like .. say, Escape from New York.

  142. Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know the script already. Anytime someone asks Keanu something he says "I dunno." Anytime someone tells him something he either says, "Huh", "What", "Me?". Save your money for another movie.

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  144. There are far worse Batmen.... by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    Micheal Keaton? Oh common. I thought he did a great job. Light years better than, say, George Clooney. But Keanu Reeves? He plays the naive clueless part pretty well, but beyond that is a bit of a stretch...

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  145. There's only one superman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and that's christopher reeves.

  146. uhhh no by ph1nn · · Score: 0

    i dont know what your talking about but Keaton was an awesome actor for Batman... its all the other actors that followed that absolutely sucked.

    The first Batman movie rocked. And Keaton had that dark slightly nuts look in his eyes that fit the role so beautifully.

  147. Keanu? What about Christopher? by erroneus · · Score: 2

    I thought he made a great SuperMan. Alright, so he has suffered a mild setback but you know... he's SuperMan... and it's probably just an act to hide his secret identity anyway.

    And even if he were actually a mortal human, I'm sure there's enough Hollywood effects out there to fix that little problem.

    Damn... that was tasteless... I think I shouldn't click "submit..."

  148. The Comic Book Guy said it best... by hal9000 · · Score: 1

    CBG: Egad! A maniac cutting a swath of destruction. This is a job for the Green Lantern, Thundra, or possibly... Ghost Rider!
    Otto: What about Superman?
    CBG: Oh please...

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  149. Keaton by AmbientNightmare · · Score: 1

    Keaton was a fantastic Batman, and if they make another taking place after the last 2 crappy ones, it better be him as Bats. As far as Superman goes, Dean Cain looked the part...but was just kinda...well...eh...I guess I really can't think of a good Supes...open casting call is the best way to go in my opinion. Surely someone will come along. If you ask me, an unknown would work best. As long as they don't get a hayden whatsisname kinda guy. But I kinda like Ratner...I personally think the two rush hour movies were well worth the 7 bucks. Basically...don't get all in a huff over this people...I don't think it'll turn out that bad. But we won't know till it's done I guess will we?

  150. How times have changed. by Dan+Crash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember when Tim Burton first announced that Michael Keaton was going to play Batman -- "there's something in his eyes," he said -- and the fanboy crowd went ballistic. They shouted that Batman wasn't Mr. Mom, and that Burton had ruined the one comic book movie that fans had been waiting their whole lives for.

    Now, a decade later, nearly every post says Keaton was the definitive Batman, and all the other actors (who at first blush seemed to be perfect Batman types) were the ones who ruined the franchise.

    Michael Keaton's gotta be proud. He played a legendary character no one thought he could pull off, and then walked away from it, so everyone could see just how tough the job actually was. Now he's doing, what, Jack Frost II? Hollywood oughtta make him Perry White, Clark Kent's editor, in the new Superman pic. They owe him.

    FWIW, I don't think we've seen the definitive Superman performance yet. Chris Reeve's Clark Kent was too buffoonish, his Superman too milquetoast. If Batman is supposed to have gone off the deep end because his parents were killed, how much more insane would losing your parents, your species, and your entire planet make you? Superman's a fascinating character, in his own way at least as flawed as Batman. I hope Hollywood can find an actor who can give as much to Superman's character as Keaton did to Batman.

    (I should say that I have nothing but respect for Chris Reeve as an actor and human being. Superman is fantasy; Chris is real, and through his tireless advocacy and fundraising he may ultimately be responsible for saving more lives than his comicbook counterpart.)

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    1. Re:How times have changed. by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 2

      Hollywood oughtta make him Perry White, Clark Kent's editor, in the new Superman pic. They owe him.

      At first blush I don't agree. In my mind Perry White should be old school. Lane Smith (in Lois & Clark) was sort of like that, but not quite what I had in mind. Maybe someone with the demeanor of Lou Grant, but with some hair.

      But, I agree with the point of your article. If anyone could pull it off against expectations, it would be Keaton.

      Oh, as for Superman . . . he would have to have a pretty super mental makeup to overcome all those problems you mention. It would be hard to pull that off as an actor as well. I don't know about the milquetoast part, but I think Reeve playing Clark Kent as a bit of a, well, buffoon for want of a better word, is a definite plus. Part of the Clark Kent persona is, even if the guy looks a little like Superman and maybe even sounds a little like him, you have to come off thinking, "No way could this yutz be Superman."

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    2. Re:How times have changed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Superman is not some flawed character you moron. The reason he is superman is because he has these incredible powers, with incredible intelligence, and basically all around invincible. He is not flawed and that is what makes him a hero.

    3. Re:How times have changed. by pough · · Score: 1
      The fanboy crowd is no longer ballistic, simply depressed. Keaton was intriguing, I must admit, but he was NOT Batman. Nor was he Bruce Wayne, in spite of what people seem to be saying. Have they ever read a Batman comic? Bruce Wayne IS a playboy. He plays tennis, loves money and dates every single pretty woman in Gotham.

      All of the Batman movies were terrible as Batman movies. Even Nicholson was a terrible Joker. He would have been great as someone else, but he wasn't Joker. Hell, I would have been happier if his character were called Jesus. The Joker is a goofy, laughing maniac, with wild mood swings. Nicholson's character was cold... come to think of it, Nicholson was Two-Face. And Jim Carrey was the Joker. And Tommy Lee was nobody.

      Now they're casting Keanu as Superman? On purpose?

      I have officially given up on DC characters making the jump to the big screen. Like I said, I'm not ballistic, just depressed.

  151. They should just wait... by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..a few more years until the current cast of Smallville is old enough to be convincing in the parts. (Which shouldn't be long, they're a little old for the parts now -- but it's still an enjoyable show.)

    Although I'm curious about how and when Chloe Sullivan changes her name to Lois Lane. ;)

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    1. Re:They should just wait... by Zarf · · Score: 2

      Personally, I really like this idea... and we could make Lois Lane and Cloe Sullivan identical cousins or something to solve that particular problem. Sort of a "Joe Versus The Volcano" kind of thing... only with Clark Kent.

      Ever notice how in the Superman movie when Lex puts the Kryptonite around Super's neck he says, "... just a little something from the old home-town..." See! Everything fits so nicely!

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    2. Re:They should just wait... by jdavidb · · Score: 2

      Dead on! The current Clark is spectacular in the role.

  152. Celebrity Jeopardy [SNL] said it best. by Malicious · · Score: 1
    Michael Keaton [Matthew Perry]: I'm BATMAN
    Alec Trebek [Will Ferrel]: No, you're not.

    Keanu Reeves [Toby Maguire(Spiderman): I know Kung Fu
    Alec Trebek [Will Ferrel]: No, you don't.

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  153. Superman vs. Batman vs. Superman by Robotech_Master · · Score: 2

    This New York Times story (free registration required, someone else post the no-reg link, yadda yadda) chronicles the squabble between two Warner execs, one of whom wanted to do the darker Batman vs. Superman movie, the other who wanted to do a lighter, more feel-good trilogy of Superman movies instead.

    Frankly, I think they should put Bruce Timm and Paul Dini, the geniuses behind the animated Batman/Superman/Batman Beyond/Justice League, in the driver's seat. They've done a wonderful job of reinventing the characters for animation.

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  154. Nerve regeneration... by nettdata · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can agree from first-hand experience.

    I went to University on a rugby scholarship, and played for years. In '97 I had what is commonly reffered to as a "carreer-ending injury" where my right knee was dislocated by about 5 inches, quite effectively ripping 3/4 of the ligaments in my knee completely apart, and severing the nerve that services the lower right side of my leg and all the muscles on the top of my right foot.

    I went to the hospital, had it examined, and was told that it was a sprain... "don't worry about it, come back in a week if it's still bugging you".

    One week later, I still couldn't lift my foot or feel anything in my leg. So, I went to a specialist.

    Long story short, it was one of the "cleanest" (as in no blood, it was as if it was surgically damaged) and most destructive knee injuries they've ever seen. The nerve damage was too old to repair, and after many visits to many neurosurgeons, they all agreed that I'd be lucky to regain 60% usage in 10 years.

    Now, I was a pretty active guy... mountain biking every day, rugby 4 times a week, gymn twice a day, so I was in pretty good shape.

    They gave me these rehab "protocols" that must have been written for couch-sitting housewives..."the 4 week goal is to bend the knee 25 degrees with minimal pain". Give me a break! I'd done that in 2 days! I threw them away and proceded to do what I could on my own... completing 6 months of protocols in about 3 weeks. The physio guys were blown away, and while concerned, couldn't see anything bad happening. I continued mountain biking, walked to exhaustion, always pushing myself but not to the point of further damage. I was wearing out the "protective" brace every 3 weeks and having to have it replaced (which they said I'd have to wear for the rest of my life, BTW).

    I should take a second here to really thank my orthopedic surgeon (Dr. Ross!)... he took the time to show me how to perform basic examinations on my knee and leg, teaching me the signs to look for, and allowing me to monitor my progress. It really helped me guage the amount of exertion I could apply and when I should stop. It was REALLY refreshing to NOT get the whole "well, you're not a doctor, so you wouldn't understand, so I'm not going to teach you" attitude.

    After a year and a half, I'd regained a LOT of use of the damaged nerves... I still remember the day that I could lift my foot up for the first time (the guys at work thought I was nuts when I started jumping around and yelling and screaming!).

    3 years and 4 knee surgeries after the injury, I could run somewhat normally on the knee (I was never a great runner to begin with!), was practicing rugby, mountain biking normally, and playing other sports... all without the brace. The biggest damage I had was psychological.

    I went back to the neurosurgeons who initially examined me, and said "hey, can you retest me?" and they were quite shocked to see that I'd recovered to be about 90-95% of what is normal.

    Now, I am what I consider to be 100% recovered; same weights in the gymn, playing rugby again without a brace (not as competitive, but I'm old and lazy now ;), and on the mornings that I wake up with knee pain, it usually takes me a couple of minutes to realize that it's the "good" knee! It's almost like they rebuilt the bad one better than the original. :)

    So, at the end of the day, and after doing a LOT of research on my own in the local medical libraries, I found that neurologists really don't understand SQUAT about nerve regeneration, and I tend not to believe any limitations they want to put on them. I threw away their advice of relying on a brace for the rest of my life and "taking it easy", and I'm glad I did.

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    1. Re:Nerve regeneration... by Kraft · · Score: 2

      More power to you! I hope somebody learns from this, if not the neurosurgeons.

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    2. Re:Nerve regeneration... by applejacks · · Score: 0

      I agree doctors have no clue as to what the human body is capable of. I give them credit about general surgury. But for injuries, they tell you to take it lite in your recovery. I believe you have to push yourself 150% of what you normally did. I've damanged alot of my body over the past couple of years. Legs, arms, and back. In each instance I made sure I continuiously stretched the area as well as excercised it. Never used cold to stop swelling. Always heat. Every single time I made a full recovery.
      But what can you do or say to people that will not listen? They would rather throw away money on the easiest solution to their problems. Pills and snake oils want cure you. I've found Zinc is good to keep around too.

      Take it easy..

  155. Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thank you.

  156. Re:I agree, maybe it's Jerry's curse: by testadicazzo · · Score: 1
    When someone first told me Keaton would be playing Batman, I said "oh they're making it a comedy" thinking it would be played camp like the old tv show. They replied "no man, it looked really serious".

    I was delighted with the first Batman, and although Keaton didn't have the face for Bruce Wayne, he did a marvelous job of acting

    I remember reading an interview with him at the time, and he was kind of fed up with all the critisizm that he didn't look the part. He said something to effect that if they wanted a square jaw for the cowl they could have gotten Lenno.

    That being said this was the first time I'd seen Keaton departing from comedy roles, so it's understandable that he could pull of a surprisingly good performance. Keanu, on the other hands has shown himself to be a wooden actor... On the other hand, for comic characters, Supes is a bit wooden, so maybe it'll work out. I'll keep an open mind. But you know, the kid who plays Clark on Smallvill doesn't do a bad job (considering the lame, overly propagandistic, poorly thought out scripts they give him). I think he'd be a better choice.

    Yeah, I think we all have fond memories of Christopher Reeve as Superman. Oddly enough, what I remember as good about his portrayal, was how well he did Clark and the bumbling doofus act. It was just so sweet and charming. And then the shift when he pulled his glasses down a couple inches... If I was gay, that would definately get me going...

    Back to the point: He did Okay in matrix, because it wasn't a very demanding role. It may be that Superman can be crafted to fit him okay. But I think I'll miss the bungling clark (he was lost in the last revision of superman I read through. Has he come back, does anyone know? My casual perusal of superman says no but maybe I'm wrong.

    Oh and a question: Didn't I read somewhere that the copyrights went back to the Siegel family? Are there any non Warner implementations of Superman in the pipes, or what's the story?

    and will Jerry Siegels curse still apply? Is that what happened to Christopher Reeves? If you don't know about jerry's curse it's in the article, here's the quote:

    Jerry Siegel, himself, in response to news that a big budget Hollywood picture starring his creation was underway in 1974, wrote, "The publishers of SUPERMAN comic books, National Periodical Publications (now DC Comics), killed my days, murdered my nights, choked my happiness, strangled my career. I consider National's executives money-mad monsters. I, Jerry Siegel, the co-originator of SUPERMAN, put a curse on the SUPERMAN movie!"
    Perhaps it's the curse coming to play in the selection of Keanu Reeves! Perhaps that's what happened with Superman IV!
  157. So THIS is what Hitler had in mind! by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 2

    I think the Ubermensch was better off as Aryan.

  158. The Kryptonite is finally wearing off by frenchgates · · Score: 1

    what's the half life?

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  159. Kal-El's Excellent Adventure by Picass0 · · Score: 2

    Superman was a starmaker role for Christopher Reeve, and I think they need to get an unknown for the next film.

    I also thought the "Death of Superman" storyline sucked. I'm glad they ditched it. Keven Smith was on record saying that the studio has been preasuring him to make many stupid changes to the story.

    The "Bats vs. Supes" story sounded like a mess. All involved should count themselves lucky that the film didn't get made.

    Warner Bros. should be patient and do this right instead of competing with Hulk, Daredevil, Spiderman II, X-Men II. If they rush Superman it will suck and they will ruin it they way they ruined Batman.

  160. My vote is for the Superman they ALREADY have!!! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

    IF they were smart enough, which they've proven in teh last 10 years they are NOT, they would use the current Smallville actor for Superman, Tom Welling!! Yes I know it's a show geared for teenagers, but it really is a pretty damn good show (ok....Kristen Kreuk is HOT too!!!). But he really does pull off that nice mid-american farmboy bit quite well.....and I think the ladies out there would appreciate a fresh face on the big screen....not just actor who isn't quite that good or is ready for the scrap heap of actor has-beens!!
    He doesn't look like a teenager (which is one of the flaws of the Smallville show), he's got good size (While Reeves was a GREAT yet skinny Superman, we don't need another). And he WON'T use the phrase "whoa" or "dude" !!

    My 2 cents !!!

  161. Smallville by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get this guy, dress him to look a little older.

  162. Re:My vote is for the Superman they ALREADY have!! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

    By the way ...anyone got any screen grabs of Kristen in that red lacy thong item she had on in the pool scene a while back......Hubba Hubba.....nung nung nung....woo woo woo!! :-)

  163. An actor's take by Aquitaine · · Score: 1

    There have been a lot of questions to the effect of 'what makes Sean Connery better than Keanu.'

    When you see a really bad actor on the screen, there are two possibille explanations for his or her bad acting.

    The first -- and regrettably, the most common -- is bad directing and/or a bad script (okay, that's a reason and a half). Most would agree that Jeremy Irons is a fantastic actor, and yet he did 'Dungeons and Dragons.' I don't know how anyone could've made that role succeed. Sometimes actors just have to crap out lines. Some directors view that as being our job; stand where I tell you, say the line how I tell you. It happens.

    Other actors are simply limited in range. Remember that professional acting is a very difficult business, with around 75-80% of actors out of work at any given time. Even when you land a great part, not only do you not want to be known for just one part, but that one job isn't going to make your career if you never get any other jobs after it. There are a few examples of actors who have made careers out of one role (Shatner), but still others who have kept their dynamic edge and jump on new opportunities in spite of sometimes being known for just one part -- look at Patrick Stewart. Anyone who only knows him as Pickard has never really seen his best stuff.

    Keanu Reeves seems to me the sort of actor who enjoys a successful career and seems less concerned with the art. This is an observation but not a criticism. The decision to become a professional actor is not an easy one, as it is difficult (if not impossible) to maintain long-term relationships and/or a family when you're in the business. He has found his niche. He gets work. People gripe about him, and I personally think he has the same approach to every one of his characters, but I have to respect the man for succeeding in a business where it's hard to even get by.

    Incidentally, and this is me soapboxing now, my favorite movie actors are almost always the ones who have done or still do an enormous amount of work on the stage (Derek Jacobi, Anthony Hopkins, et cetera). Reeves wouldn't survive ten minutes on a stage with the likes of them. But I don't think he cares.

  164. Re:Nerve regeneration... mod that one up too! by Reziac · · Score: 2

    That's a great story, and just goes to show -- yeah, doctors tend to believe what's in the books more than what they can see with their own eyes. And clearly in your case, stimulus was the key as well.

    They should already KNOW that nerves can regrow, since one of the chronic problems with amputee patients is nerves growing right out of the end of the stump, probably in response to "phantom limb syndrome".

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  165. 1 Phrase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As told by Keanu.

    Whoa Dude!

    Welcome to the diversity of what sells to 15 yr o0lds.....

  166. Funny stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Christopher Reeve or Keanu braindead tw*t?? What better than that winning gold in the Paralympics???? Walking for F*ck's sake!!!!!!!

  167. It's all about Ash by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Good, bad... I'm the guy with the heat vision.

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  168. Excellent! by Ranger · · Score: 1

    So now Superman will say "Excellent!" If they want to follow in the tradition of the Batman movies and have a different Superman for each one they can use these actors in no particular order: John Cusack, Matthew McConaughey, and Christian Bales.

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  169. They should get that guy from the "Lois & Clar by Control-Z · · Score: 1


    At least he LOOKED like Superman...

  170. Re:My vote is for the Superman they ALREADY have!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was a body double. So next time you are masturbating while thinking about it, realize that its not the same girl.

  171. YetAnotherMichaelKeatonPost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    worse fit for an actor in a superhero role since Michael Keaton in Batman

    I think you meant George Klowney. Of course Schumacher didn't help any.

    1. Re:YetAnotherMichaelKeatonPost by markdowling · · Score: 1

      I thought Keaton was the best one of the big screen versions!! Especially as Wayne.

  172. Clark Kent by Dan+Crash · · Score: 2

    Part of the Clark Kent persona is, even if the guy looks a little like Superman and maybe even sounds a little like him, you have to come off thinking, "No way could this yutz be Superman."

    I've always thought that Clark's best disguise wasn't that he was clownish or incompetent, but that he was simply too button-down and square for anyone to consider the possibility that he's Superman. In my mind, Clark Kent is an echo of the NASA engineers of 60s -- just a little more buff, and with a slightly better haircut.

    One of the fascinating things about the Superman character is that Clark's job is a mental one. He chose the one profession his super-powers wouldn't allow him to fake competence in. I don't think I've ever read a take on Superman which focused on him as a writer.

    Chris Reeve's performance as Clark Kent/Superman was amusing and enjoyable. Clark was fun in a Vaudevillian sort of way. But since they've already done it that way once, I'd like to see them treat Supes differently this time around; make him as real as they can make a super-powered flying x-ray visioned cape-wearing alien from outer space. :)

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  173. Re:Why pick on Keanu? Why Not? by Vesuvius_2 · · Score: 1

    Keanu never shows any emotional range, he always falls back on the same facial expressions (the dumb ted theodore logan smile from Bill and Ted) and the open mouthed half smile "whoa" from the replacements, the matrix, and sweet november. he's never ever shown any convincing emotion or thought. his body type does not fit the role and his accent/manner of speech does not fit the character of superman (who was a farmboy, not a surfer). Sean connery, while he does speak in a scottish accent, has a wide range of emotions and mannerisms, and understands the ideas of drama much better. your question is like saying "both Brittney Spears and Beethoven made music, so why is it you can argue she isn't on his level?"

  174. What about Hank by Rainier+Wolfecastle · · Score: 1

    I always thought that Henry Rollins (from Black Flag and Rollins Band) would make an awesome Superman. He looks the part, as both Clark and Supes, and he is an actor. Ok, not a brilliant actor, but then they're thinking of casting Keanu...

    As for Batman, Alec Baldwin is Bruce Wayne. I don't think he'd be able to pull of Batman however.

  175. Re:Why pick on Keanu? Why Not? by vanyel · · Score: 2

    You have a point, he does a lot of "angry young man" roles, but never anything with the range of, say, Robin Williams (though that's a hard act to follow). I did think he was great in Devil's Advocate, but again, he's playing his character. And I agree, Superman isn't for him. Now give Tom Welling a few more years as Superboy and then a few years to age into the role...

  176. Re:My vote is for the Superman they ALREADY have!! by AJWM · · Score: 2

    I completely agree (see my earlier post). The Lex Luthor character is great too -- he brings complexity to the role that was missing from the Superman movies. (In the original comics, Lex had been a boyhood friend of Superboy (don't recall about Kent), until Lex lost his hair which he blamed Superboy for. (It was a lab accident, in the process of putting out the fire, Superboy causes a chemical spill that affects Luthor. -- The modified backstory in Smallville is superior, IMHO.)

    As for the show being geared for teenagers -- maybe so, but some of us old fogeys like it too. Good story lines (although for a while the "human is exposed to kryptonite, gets wierd powers, goes berserk" was being overdone) and good filmmaking go a long way. (And you gotta love all those foreshadowing jokes.)

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  177. Excellent choice! by joto · · Score: 2
    For an action figure so completely dull and boring as superman, I find the use of Keanu Reeves very appropriate. I mean, who else can play an all-powerful, indestructible, naive and simple-minded person who only does good but never bad things better than him?

    In my opinion Keaton was excellent in Batman. True, he could have had a bit more muscle-mass, but otherwise, he made a pretty believable Bruce Wayne.

  178. Superman is Canadian by euxneks · · Score: 1

    I love how everyone likes superman so much. It makes me warm to know that a canadian invented something so american =)

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  179. Re:Why pick on Keanu? Why Not? by Deluge · · Score: 2

    your question is like saying "both Brittney Spears and Beethoven made music

    I just want to point out that Britney merely performs, whereas Beethoven *created* music.

    But I see your point. You can't compare classical composers to the assembly line schmucks that pump out pop crap for idiots and whores to perform.

  180. Re:Sample size of two. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're claiming a statistical combination based on a sample size of 2? You would be laughed out of a beginning statistics class.

  181. Re:RELIGION should be BANNED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see you have not taken your medication.
    better walk calmly in to your padded room you
    FRUITCAKE

  182. Too wierd for coincedence by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

    Original Superman actor: George Reeves 1970s Superman actor: Christopher Reeve Current Superman actor: Keanu Reeves Notice anything creepy about this?

  183. Gee by LafinJack · · Score: 1

    Thanks for telling me the ending, now I'll NEVER see it!

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  184. What about Bruce Cambell? by Disoculated · · Score: 1

    I mean, c'mon, Superman is all about the chin...

  185. Easy solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should just wait until Christopher Reeve can move again, and then do the Dark Knight Returns with Reeve and Michael Keaton reprising their roles.

  186. Batman actors out of order by Etrigan_696 · · Score: 1

    Granted, I like Keaton best as batman - but both Clooney and Kilmer did a decent batman (ignoring the scripts - the scripts for all batman movies after the second one have been sickeningly bad).
    Batman back in the forties and fifties was, while still his "I am the night" bad-ass self, still sort of optomistic and good natured. Kilmer fit this quite well. Yes, Kilmer played Bruce Wayne as a playboy, but that would have been fine for a just-starting batman.
    Batman of the fifties and sixties was a little sillier (as were all comics of the time) and sort of the leader of the "bat-pack" -- because all superheros had to have an army of side-kicks. Clooney did this pretty well.

    And then - there's the Batman of the mid-to-late eighties. The original Robin has run out on him, his replacement Robin was murdered by the Joker and he really hates himself. Now - he's more Batman than Bruce Wayne - Wayne is just a thin veneer over his true self. Bruce Wayne is stretched thin and tired, and becoming transparent... Pretty soon, Batman will be all that's left. Keaton did this excellently.

    What really makes me mad is this:
    Joel Schumacher, in 1994 when he begins Batman Forever, has two options:
    On the one hand he has a pile of work by Frank MIller and Walter Simonson, filled with panel after panel of a dark, gritty batman that has been selling like hotcakes for fifteen years or so (at least that *style* of batman, if not ALL their work)....

    On the other hand, he has a laughable and ridiculous 1966 TV show starring Adam West's fat ass - that most of the world would like to forget. At least, everyone who grew up in the 80s reading batman comics and seeing Batman as part Sam Spade, part psycho, and all super hero....At least we didn't want to be confronted with Adam West's beer gut and patently stupid television show.

    I just thank the Lord that Kevin Altieri and Kent Butterworth got it right with Batman:TAS. Damn - that was the best show on TV from '92-'95.

    MOVIE EXECS: If you are reading this - take this as one lone hint that Batman SHOULD NOT be silly. Batman should be scary.

  187. So... by quintessent · · Score: 2

    Which pill will they give him?

  188. Wrong Just Plain Wrong by Zarf · · Score: 2

    Keanu as Superman??? Some one is playing a game here... must be. This is just too choice and full of obvious Bill-Ted/Matrix one-liners!

    Super: Dude, Lois, I like... got you babe.
    Lois : Yeah but who's got you?!?
    Super: Like nobody, duh, I can fly babe. Check it!

    ...

    Super: You mean I'm actually a space-alien. Like with
    little green antenae and stuff? Like, I could
    jump over tall buildings and dodge bullets?

    Ma Kent: No Clark, when you're ready you won't have to.

    Super: Woah.

    I suppose if this turns into a real movie it'll be okay as long as it's a super spoof ala the "Not another..." genre. IE: "Not another Super Hero movie!"

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  189. SuperMan's progress- an anonymous donor did this by SolemnDragon · · Score: 1
    This site offers a chance to spend someone else's money to make superman's birthday brighter.

    This is the Christopher Reeve site where you get to send an e-card. As everybody I'm sure remembers, he promised that he'd walk before he was fifty. Well, that's coming up fast (the 25th, i think) and he can walk- but only underwater, where he doesn't have to carry his full weight. In the meantime, there's this: for every ecard sent, there's a dollar promised to the foundation he started.

    If there's one thing that I love better than charity, it's charity with someone else's money.

  190. Better question - who will be Lex Luthor? by gosand · · Score: 2

    OK, let's assume for a moment that they actually do get a real actor to play Superman. Face it, Keanu isn't Superman. The better question is, who would be Lex Luthor? Lois Lane? They have to do some better casting than just finding the right Man of Steel. Think about who helped out Keaton in Batman. We know that Spiderman wouldn't have been as good without the supporting cast, and the Matrix was ALL about the supporting cast.

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  191. OW MY ACHEN BACK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe keanu will havea big fall too, leaving him out of the picture for good, for my evil plans; hahahahah!!!!

  192. So what your saying is.. by geekoid · · Score: 2

    ...thats its a plot to rid us of Keanue?

    cool, its about time...

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  193. Forget Superman, they need to do Megaton Man! by pmancini · · Score: 2
    Yes, that is right, they need to make a movie about Megaton Man! America's Nuclear Powered Superhero!


    I'd sell my first born just to see that project get off the ground. They could use one of the better short stories to base the movie on:


    Farley Phloog (The Golden Age Megaton Man) is teamed with Professor Rex (Rigid) and a group of teenage mutants, hence the flimsy excuse to cash in on a cultural phenomenon. Some idiot sets off The Collision Of All Conceivable Comic Book Universes At Once Wars which results in another half-hearted restoration of Megaton Man. But wait--Clarissa James has an origin herself and becomes Ms. Megaton Man, and everyone wonders if it might not be because she'd been sleeping with Yarn Man!


    Oh this moview would be packed with goody goodness and Keaneu would be perfect in the role!

  194. aahhgg, my brain it hurts. by geekoid · · Score: 2

    First off, Keaton was a great Batman, mostly because he was able to portray a little relized fact about Batman.
    Bruce wayne is a persona of batman, not the other way around. Batman is, after all, insane, but he's are kind of insane..

    Now on with the Superman story.

    "Like lois, look out, the Lex dude has a gun"

    This will be horrible.
    OTOH, maybe Superman will team up with Jimmy Olsen, and travel through time to become the greatest band of all time! oh, and put George Carlin in someplace.

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  195. Putty would make an awsome superman by beerman2k · · Score: 1
    Patrick Warburton who played Putty in Siefeild would make an awsome superman. I know he played the Tick and that should didn't do so well on TV, but long before that I new he would make an aswome superhero.

    He has this redidculous sense of confidence, that seems almost superhuman.

  196. Try Kevin Conroy. by Thag · · Score: 2
    Uh......Michael Keaton was the best for the part of batman, i thought.


    IMHO, Keaton was very much miscast, in that Batman/Bruce Wayne is supposed to be tall, athletic and leading-man handsome, and Keaton really isn't any of the above. While Keaton turned in a professional performance (and I've never seen him be really bad in anything), he was a bad fit for the part. To make him look imposing, they had to put him in a ridiculous cumbersome bat-suit that practically turns him into an animatronic special effect, and it kills the movie. He can't even WALK RIGHT in the suit! He can't even move his head!

    The best Batman was the animated Batman in Mask of the Phantasm, voiced by Kevin Conroy. He has the physical presence, can do all the action, and he even has a character and emotions. (Mask of the Phantasm also had Mark Hamill turning in a GREAT performance as the Joker.)

    Jon Acheson

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  197. Thank you, Wil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I have never before actually fell to the floor, laughing, since the StayPuft Marshmallow Man. Keep up the good work!

  198. I have to admit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that any movie that includes the maiming, then the violent and bloody death of Jeff Daniels (Speed, Blood Work) leaves me cheered up for days afterwards. Go figure.

  199. Actually,... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..."Johnny Mnemonic" was a short story by Bill Gibson, who also wrote the screenplay and hence was not a "lame ripoff", but was merely "lame".

  200. Sadly, .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Brittany Spears does cowrite some of her atrocities, while Beethoven never sang any of his music while baring his midriff, at least not before a crowd.

  201. Let the sequel thing go... by thebruce · · Score: 1

    if Hollywood wants to do them, let them... if they flop, they'll learn. There have been plenty of really good one-time movies out, and sequels make up a small percentage of new releases... the only complaints come from the people who didn't necessarily like the sequel, or think that because (applying that reason to other movies) a sequel was disappointing, the new one in question will also. Along with that there have been plenty of decent sequels as well.

    There's no Hollywood conspiracy to milk us with sequels... there's no lack of directors with good taste and quality creativity... there's just people with a talent to speak up who happen not to like the idea of a sequel to a movie they either enjoyed or abhored...

    To whet your appetite and un-brainwash yourself, go watch Meet Joe Black, Finding Forrester, Saving Private Ryan, Signs, Gladiator... Lord of the Rings (based on a novel, and a trilogy, not a series) plus many more medium to low-release indy films you can see at local smaller theatres... lots more fiction movies as well, if you're not up for well written action/fantasy/sci-fi/romance stories...

    You just need patience to find the odd diamond in the rough when they come out.

  202. Someone reminded me of a good Superman... by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 2

    Bruce Campbell.

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    Mordor...a magical, mythical land where women are more rare than dragons--but where every man would rather find a dragon
  203. GOD DAMN IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's Nietzsche!

    1. Re:GOD DAMN IT by Syncdata · · Score: 1

      It's Nietzsche!
      Neh, I don't respect the philosophy enough to spell the practitioners name correctly.

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      "Inattention makes clowns of us all" -Bean