Sure, I'll help you by also enabling a controlled password lock, and you will allow me to remote wipe your device when you get laid off. I've no problem supporting you, but it the process and procedures and protocols are in place to mitigate data loss, sorry - your not getting WORK email on your iDevice unless it's company supported, and I put *IT* control on it. Fair?
And... that's the whole point of Fedora vs RHEL. This has been discussed everywhere for years. Users want something free - thats Fedora. OEMs and Vendors want something with long term support and accountability - which costs money. Thats RHEL, which you pay for.
All the companies that switch to CentOS, fine with me - but play nice, and buy at least 1 support contract/license from Red Hat. It's a nice way of saying thanks to the main company doing all the hard work.
It's available for the Nokia 6800 (6810, 6820, 6820i) series. I have a 6800 flip for over a year;) and I must say, SSH is SLOW!
SSH is almost impossible to use on this phone, as the processor is not fast.. but wait.. the 9300/9500 communicators (same price range) are much faster, as I have/am beta testing a 9300 now.. and WOW.. everything is fast!!
I was a Windows Admin and User at home for 2 years before I finally was introduced to Yggdrasil linux (your all old if you remember this one). I remember installing it on my 486, finishing up, rebooting and getting to a login prompt, realizing: crap, what was the password I typed in.
Soon after, I tried out Red Hat 5.2, then 6.2 before I 'got' it. Fedora/RHEL is not the 100% answer. All those fancy GUI's are shite if you don't have access to a monitor. Need to learning awk? Not really, but it helps if he knows what he needs to look for on a line. I'd say learning to read the log files and errors are the hardest thing to do, so installing something and having it break, and you fixing it with a book or google, or even irc, is much better than a class.. and trust me, I'm just finished taking RH133 + Rh253 + RH302 in the last 3 weeks (forced, told my boss I didn't need them, but was a nice vacation) so RH training is very basic, enough to get around a gui system. Learning how to use the tools you have to get info off the net without a gui, is more difficult for more people than you think.
I work in support, and believe me when I tell you that no one knows how to ftp from the command line anymore, I know, because I have to walk them through it. Pick up a book, you'll learn more. As recommended before, go with the 'Unleashed' series. If you need to learn something like LDAP or DNS or NFS/NIS, then O'Reilly is going to help you there.
Damn, this is what I get for reading Slashdot late in the day. As soon as I saw the header for the article, all I could think of was the Feds in Snow Crash.
Man, time to read that book again, for the ~15 time.
Have a look at Autopatcher
Includes LOTS of addtions/tweaks/hotfixes.
No need to download everything.. it's already there.
With an XP slipstreamed CD, and Autpatcher burnt to a CD... it saves installing a lot, including Codecs.
Well, as a current CCSE+ certified engineer, you do need to make sure you have a support contract, and companies like Nokia are perfect. (I'm tooting my own horn, since anyone who deals with Nokia support directly in the States and Canada, will have spoken with me at least once)
There are lots of good resellers out there to help implement the solutions that Checkpoint provides, and there are others out there I would like to squash and remove their access contracts, but I just work there.
Everyone who complains about Checkpoint, always complains about the patches and the downtime and the configurations, but lots of time would be saved if people would get this book, and get some proper training and support in place.
On a side note, I have heard from many people who have support contracts with Checkpoint directly, and my own company for the hardware/software, and they always seem to say that Checkpoint support sucks until you get to their Bench support group, or talk to a Nokia support rep:)
Unfortunately, in this line of bussines, a support contract is key when the person in charge of the network needs a little hand-holding, wether it be upgrading, installing or troubleshooting, the person on the other end of the phone does get paid. Where do you think the money comes from? Support contracts!
I do this exactly.. but slightly different.../usr/portage is exported (from a redhat NFS Server... go figure..) I have 5 servers running gentoo.. very stable. One server is even running UT2K3 as a server on it.
When doing an 'emerge rsync' everything gets downloaded and saved in the right place.. so next time you want to install a package.. it will only ever download once.
Well, as one who administers both but is forced to use a windows (2k) desktop, I can tell you the longest I have gone without rebooting it was 45+ days. I always had Outlook 2k, OE, 3 secure CRT windows, icq and msn (don't kill me now) and other apps like winamp and cd burning util, I never had a problem.
My laptop runs Gentoo though, as all my servers at home have now been switched from RH/slackware to gentoo. That is one sweet distro to try.
Since we have many offices, and moving to a Windows 2000 AD Structure (don't need the flames... I argue all day till I run out of breath)
With this, we have already office locations, ie: since I am in Ottawa, Canada, I can use otton.domain.com my 1st DC will be ottondc01.otton.domain.com
my mail server is ottonmail01.otton.domain.com, etc, etc. With the windows 2000 crap going in place, I'm still lucky to have a local linux DNS server where I will be useing it to map alias, so, any cartoon theme, or user box will be userid.localdomainstilused.com
Slashdot Mirror
Yggdrasil -> Slackware -> RedHat/Mandrake (can't remember order..) -> Gentoo -> LFS -> Slackware -> Ubuntu/Debian + CentOS @ Work
Sure, I'll help you by also enabling a controlled password lock, and you will allow me to remote wipe your device when you get laid off. I've no problem supporting you, but it the process and procedures and protocols are in place to mitigate data loss, sorry - your not getting WORK email on your iDevice unless it's company supported, and I put *IT* control on it. Fair?
OK, OK.. I'll bite: But can it run Crysis... and imagine a Beowulf clust... nevermind!
And... that's the whole point of Fedora vs RHEL. This has been discussed everywhere for years.
Users want something free - thats Fedora. OEMs and Vendors want something with long term support and accountability - which costs money. Thats RHEL, which you pay for.
All the companies that switch to CentOS, fine with me - but play nice, and buy at least 1 support contract/license from Red Hat. It's a nice way of saying thanks to the main company doing all the hard work.
They should go back to a freely downloadable, but unsupported version.
It's called Fedora.... Also known as the upstream source for RHEL.
Now why would Nokia do that?
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/2596.html
See that article which tells of Nokia jumping in bed with RIM for use of RIM's technology on some cell phones.
Can't wait.. best of RIM on a small phone!
It's available for the Nokia 6800 (6810, 6820, 6820i) series. I have a 6800 flip for over a year ;) and I must say, SSH is SLOW!
SSH is almost impossible to use on this phone, as the processor is not fast.. but wait.. the 9300/9500 communicators (same price range) are much faster, as I have/am beta testing a 9300 now.. and WOW.. everything is fast!!
I was a Windows Admin and User at home for 2 years before I finally was introduced to Yggdrasil linux (your all old if you remember this one). I remember installing it on my 486, finishing up, rebooting and getting to a login prompt, realizing: crap, what was the password I typed in.
Soon after, I tried out Red Hat 5.2, then 6.2 before I 'got' it. Fedora/RHEL is not the 100% answer. All those fancy GUI's are shite if you don't have access to a monitor. Need to learning awk? Not really, but it helps if he knows what he needs to look for on a line. I'd say learning to read the log files and errors are the hardest thing to do, so installing something and having it break, and you fixing it with a book or google, or even irc, is much better than a class.. and trust me, I'm just finished taking RH133 + Rh253 + RH302 in the last 3 weeks (forced, told my boss I didn't need them, but was a nice vacation) so RH training is very basic, enough to get around a gui system. Learning how to use the tools you have to get info off the net without a gui, is more difficult for more people than you think.
I work in support, and believe me when I tell you that no one knows how to ftp from the command line anymore, I know, because I have to walk them through it. Pick up a book, you'll learn more.
As recommended before, go with the 'Unleashed' series. If you need to learn something like LDAP or DNS or NFS/NIS, then O'Reilly is going to help you there.
Damn, this is what I get for reading Slashdot late in the day. As soon as I saw the header for the article, all I could think of was the Feds in Snow Crash.
Man, time to read that book again, for the ~15 time.
Have a look at Autopatcher Includes LOTS of addtions/tweaks/hotfixes.
No need to download everything.. it's already there.
With an XP slipstreamed CD, and Autpatcher burnt to a CD... it saves installing a lot, including Codecs.
Well, as a current CCSE+ certified engineer,
:)
you do need to make sure you have a support contract, and companies like Nokia are perfect.
(I'm tooting my own horn, since anyone who deals with Nokia support directly in the States and Canada, will have spoken with me at least once)
There are lots of good resellers out there to help implement the solutions that Checkpoint provides, and there are others out there I would like to squash and remove their access contracts, but I just work there.
Everyone who complains about Checkpoint, always complains about the patches and the downtime and the configurations, but lots of time would be saved if people would get this book, and get some proper training and support in place.
On a side note, I have heard from many people who have support contracts with Checkpoint directly, and my own company for the hardware/software, and they always seem to say that Checkpoint support sucks until you get to their Bench support group, or talk to a Nokia support rep
Totally agree... nuff said from me.
Unfortunately, in this line of bussines, a support contract is key when the person in charge of the network needs a little hand-holding, wether it be upgrading, installing or troubleshooting, the person on the other end of the phone does get paid. Where do you think the money comes from? Support contracts!
and what about use the the password of 'notpassword'
I do this exactly.. but slightly different... /usr/portage is exported (from a redhat NFS Server... go figure..)
I have 5 servers running gentoo.. very stable.
One server is even running UT2K3 as a server on it.
When doing an 'emerge rsync' everything gets downloaded and saved in the right place.. so next time you want to install a package.. it will only ever download once.
Bah! I like to delete my files by manipulating the inodes by hand with a magnet! :)
It's in the URL.
http://kerneltrap.org/node.php?id=404
See, node.php?id=404.
that the kerneltrap topic id is 404...
Well, as one who administers both but is forced to use a windows (2k) desktop, I can tell you the longest I have gone without rebooting it was 45+ days. I always had Outlook 2k, OE, 3 secure CRT windows, icq and msn (don't kill me now) and other apps like winamp and cd burning util, I never had a problem.
My laptop runs Gentoo though, as all my servers at home have now been switched from RH/slackware to gentoo. That is one sweet distro to try.
Yeah.. I have my fingers ready to go for 'emerge gnome2'
Let me at it.... Will be nice to have Gnome 2 and kde 3.0.1 on my laptop.
Wow.. I suck! I just tried to do this test.. I guess I don't have much skills under unix, even though I have been an admin for 2.5 years.
Time to read up!
Must be Canadian, eh! I remember being drunk taking my english exit exams in Quebec at the time.
Still live here, just across the river though...
I REALLY hope he is joking... because I am falling of my chair right now!
Mods... mod it up to FUNNY as heck..
Since we have many offices, and moving to a Windows 2000 AD Structure (don't need the flames... I argue all day till I run out of breath)
With this, we have already office locations, ie: since I am in Ottawa, Canada, I can use otton.domain.com
my 1st DC will be ottondc01.otton.domain.com
my mail server is ottonmail01.otton.domain.com, etc, etc. With the windows 2000 crap going in place, I'm still lucky to have a local linux DNS server where I will be useing it to map alias, so, any cartoon theme, or user box will be userid.localdomainstilused.com
I have here Linux deployed on 45-50 desktops (r&d) and about the same in Win2K/NT4 desktops (Sales, Marketinng, Management, etc)
BUT, All my servers here, including R&D test beds.. all run linux.. about 300 Machines.
Cheers.