The purpose is not to read the material, but duplicate it onto a more stable medium. Every flick of the pen that is not discernable, actually influences the entire work. It needs to be preserved as would art! Accepting any less standards is an invitation for material to be converted out of context with the USian slang hither cursed the repositories for students this day.
There are books in the Library of Congress that have not been catalogued, neither touched this verry day, and are held under "national security" rules that none are allowed to read. The material, verily is damning that it carries military "Crypto" requirements for its perusal.
I say, in the Libary of Congress there are areas that are not allowed to be read. For instance, up until the War of 1812 was the first 30 years of common law governance for the united States of America. I suppose they'll digitally transcribe all the books that are already allowed to be read, and burn them with the banned-books befor they announce the liability of reading text on books plagued with flesh-eating book fungus. At least, the lawyer on the Disclosure Project, the Jesuit, knows the significance of getting to the books; before any document transcriptionist under the closed guidance of a military agent can mark them for replacement.
You use a.50 BMG for target practice? Think seriously, for the moment; with Consideration for the second amendment to the Constitution for the united States of America: necessary freedom for the State, guarunteed by the people to keep and bear arms. Greetings honored traveler, the State is free when you keep and bear arms. Today, the force preventing you to keep and bear arms are foreign powers located at a foreign State beknownst "District of Columbia". Despite "arms" ("guns for laymen) are not attractive to boastful people confident in settling excessively militant disputes with soothing words to an agressors clogged ears and distorted hateful mind, by forfeiting or giving any notion to forfeit that second amendment by any infringement implies that you don't have a free State!
Tada! No free State: is no free State. Are the people outside the non-free State supposed to be free? Tada, we are all entreated the same whether in a State, out of State, or in a foreign state or church-state or country.
Face it, the second amendment is the only statement that speaks of a free State as long as the people keep and bear arms.
The NRA are not nuts, they are just impotent. I'm a nut; and I hope you become the same; because the strongest of English Oaks began life as a mere nut that held their soil over time. I'm not a member of the NRA-- I'm just a network redundancy administrator; my weapons are not carnal, but spiritual: I only see a spiritual war. Owning a brutish peice of metal, with a mere moment of action to become dangerous, is no cause for theivery by confiscation until a trespass of unreasonable proportions and in bad faith is caused by its holder. With gun licenses, driver licenses, business licenses, fishing licenses; computer licenses are around the corner. Surely, our affections to computers are capable of more harm to many lifetimes than a abnoxiously loud iron tube. Besides that fact, a license implies prior restraint; implicating that we are all criminal until privileged to carry activities by the delegation of a non-interested few.
I can't find much information. Is Goodle purging all the cache? I could almost swear that Intel was livid with the AMD k6 architecture using "MMX", as well as Cyrix using its own mimic/derivative or different media extentions.
I can't find it. There's somthing on the tip of my tongue that occured way back in 1999 or a year or two earlier that I can't seem to pronounce. It couldn't be the DEC Alpha IP purchases plit between Intel and AMD or was that such? The DEC Alpha ev6 bus was used by the earliest AMD Athlons, but I don't think that was the dispute.
Not the first blunder. AMD was first accused of stealing the Pentium II design. After being sued by Intel, AMD agreed to license technology from Intel. Now, AMD having been sober all this time, it appears they have been caught again. From piracy, to blunder. What's next, AMD?
Here's the mirror text of the article, BTW;
Benchmarks haunt AMD's Turion By Ashlee Vance in Chicago Published Tuesday 15th March 2005 21:49 GMT
Chip and server makers have an awful habit of unintentionally highlighting their weaknesses by making a big deal of dubious benchmarks. Intel has done it. IBM has done it. HP has done it. Sun Microsystems has done it. And, most recently, AMD has done it when it launched the mobile Turion 64 processors last week.
The Turion chips were designed to make AMD more competitive against Intel's Pentium-M processors. Specifically, AMD is looking for Turions to find their way into the thin'n'light notebooks that account for an ever larger chunk of laptop sales. Customers seem fed up with lugging around massive lap warmers.
A key factor in the thin'n'light category is the balance a notebook strikes between performance and battery life. So when a vendor - in this case AMD - puts all of its attention on performance and doesn't say one word about battery life, you know the product in question might have some balance issues.
AMD rolled out plenty of performance benchmarks in front of the press, stacking a Turion 64 notebook against a Pentium-M notebook in office productivity, digital media and gaming tests. But, while the 2.0GHz clock on both companies' chips would seem to indicate an apples to apples comparison, AMD really had a rather special system on its side.
Since no Turion laptops are actually on the market, AMD created a "reference" laptop of its own. The AMD system ran on a 35 watt Turion 64 and had a graphics processor from ATI. That's a pretty handy pairing when you decide to compare it against a 27 watt Pentium-M with Intel's integrated graphics processor. See the AMD system specs here (PDF) and the Intel system specs here.
AMD could well have picked its own 25 watt part to stack up against Intel and used a Pentium-M laptop equipped with an ATI or Nvidia graphics controller. But what would that have done to the benchmarks?
"If they had compared a 25 watt system and a lower power graphics controller, the numbers would be down a lot," said Martin Reynolds, an analyst at Gartner and an especially close PC industry watcher.
An AMD spokeswoman insisted the company picked "the most comparable offering from the competitor" that it could find, even though it didn't actually do that. AMD declined to provide any of its own battery life measurements at this time because there are no production laptops on the market to measure, she said. Somehow it's okay to use a "reference" system for performance results but not for battery life results.
The only third-party battery life indicator AMD could come up with was from a MSI Megabook S270 review written in German. Google's translator tells us, "The Subnotebook weighs approximately 1.8 kg and is with its lithium ion Akku (4400 mAh) approximately 4.5 hours to hold out." So, if holding out is important to you . ..
Why is AMD being so coy?
"The answer is that the battery life isn't so good," Reynolds said, adding that Turion-powered systems could have up to one-third less battery life than laptops running on Intel's ultra low voltage products.
As Reynolds pointed out, AMD didn't do anything terribly unique with the Turion benchmarks. It saw that performance was the chip's strongest aspect and then tweaked the comparisons to make sure it outperformed Intel. Chipzilla has done this many times as well - one incident in particular comes to mind.
Potential customers, however, should be aware that Turion barely beat Pentium-M on numerous benchmarks even with the deck stacked in its favor. And it killed Pentium-M in gaming and digital media
Hoping yo enlighten you in this schizm reflecting the slashot article, but did you thoroughly read what you linked here? It says that it recharges when you leave it in the sun. Too bad it uses bulbs instead of white LEDs. That's not a redundant feature as anyone would expect; it also can "float" and is "durrable" accordingly. I think to be able to recharge is better than the Tech Light pens being sold today. True, that when I hear "solar-powered flashlight" will immediately think someone points a flaslight at its own solar array.
Look for a company known as "Quantum" and you'll see all kinds of unimaginable rendering farms. Quantum was using dedicated Pentium III Voodoo2 systems for the ray-tracing hardware on the "Metal" line. Remind you, these are near-commodity hardware with four Obsidian2 graphics adaptors each with four or six 3Dfx Voodoo2 chips on them; count the Voodoo2 and it is up near 16; and the render graphics beautifully! It's the 200SBi graphics adaptors, IIRC. And people still pay no less than US750 for these Pentium III voodoo2 systems and all the realy are paying for is a sticker with cadillac-length customized Voodoo2 hardware. The Government of the District of Columbia (aka U.S. Goverment) currently is moving all Quantum's attention. The FPGA is what will save Homebrew computing and we are all greatful for these FPGA overlords; given that the FPGA design is much more efficient than Quantum systems, and they are mostly free as in speech!
It sounds to me that a centalized P2P network database is trying to extend its venue to banking. Kazaa is sinking! When eBay granted monopoly to PayPal, the eBay venue went to shit because PayPal had the blessing to access the eBay registration database to pander upon eBay participants. PayPal isn't even a bank, as confronted by U.S. Congress, and has slithered around without by its being in Germania and the primary fund with attached fraudulent IOU's held by Wells Fargo in the United States! Kazaa, acting as a bank? I'm glad I don't use Kazaa. I'ld rather endure the fear of downloading a Oops I Did It Again in my endless search on a non-Kazaa network for Alice in Chains.
It totally destroys abilities to use HF frequencies that are vital to long distance communications.
I have reason that you approached the situation in bad faith; have you ever considered that HF use by radio operators is a lawful activity slandered as causing damage to future interests of FCC-subsidized commercial communication future interests invested by corporations? Put that thought in your pipe and smoke it.
Amateur radio operators put alot of time, effort, and money into their hobby, and when something like this comes along, that can cripple them, who can blame them for fighting against it?
I don't slander lawful and courteous use of God's radio-waves as licensed (immoral activity). Your deem of a "Radio License" as "Hobby" falls on deaf ears to lawful men that do not engage in commercial press; limit your operation to freedom of press. When you slander and attempt to convert your actions to licentiousness by confessing the subjective words commercially into merchant domain, and bear witness maliciously against people with lawful use of radio-waves, it does not rest any attempt to censor or waive such as reasonable seizure of duties as rights subject to waiving as privileges and timely shared or equal use; the people != corporations.
FCC conducts religion; it is a corporation holding a testament given by its corporators. If you estoppe your slander of converting lawful activity into legal/legitimate form or licentiousness, then you'll have no difficulty exercising such special activities and common rights to foreward your happiness.
Try it on for size: rid your communication by the mark of the beast by announcing a THIRD-PARTY INTERFERENCE into a transmitting utility not blessed by the FCC. Kings endure courteous outcome; why the license?
It was just last week that my brother a prince retourned from a "boat show" convention with a foreign tributory title of nobility in the ill-form of a "Junior Fishing License"; You imagine that there are wicked religious fanatics and enthusiasts slandering and unlawfully converting the duty to timely exercise domain over God's fish equate to a "game" or "sport" and not as a lawful and righteous activity in the course of events to survive and preserve the future of fish; but I say not to acknowledge such conspiracy until it becomes worthy of a rebuke and necessary correction when it becomes a force in bad-faith contending default to assumed competitors by vandalism and mischief from enforcement "officers" and the like "COPS".
A "Ham" operator I've known has been involved in petitioning against licensing technology to use the power lines for communication. He says it bleeds badly into the amateur radio bands; as if amateur radio doesn't bleed into any receiver not using any *pass filter.
In other new, I can hear faint transmission signals from John and Ken, Dr. Laura, and Rush Limburger on a land-line telephone if I concentrate enough. And worse, this neighbor of mine is adamantly against my tele-phonic receptance of slashdot servers; the echo is toooo annoyying they say.
I think everyone should be communicating be opening a can of Alphabet Soup, arrainging the encoded message, and consuming the information. Much more efficient and all. OT: And my Krishan brother says if he was president that he would make a law that anyone getting a Driver License may only use a miniature motor-scooter to ride for daily commuting to a worksite and back.
B) Weighed 75 pounds, had motorized doors, and SCSI drive arrays stored NASCAR grade roll cages.
And the drivers are alive, to this day; thanks to that roll cage. Problem is, their logical clock thinks it's the year 1905. Memory loss, or the effect of not shunning alcohol: you decide!
The PANDA architecture was great! Interchange between Intel Pentium Pro, DEC Alpha, PowerPC, et al Great design; the implementations are still power-ed up today and they can run MS Win NT 4 or LINUX.
I posted previously, and to serve food for your diet visit here and here. PANDA, when it arrived, was quite expensive. As you can see, ECS is reaping the benefits of a better market and better technology of today. Perhaps, the holders of PANDA intellectual property should be made aware of ECS' interests on this Claim.
Christ commands me that the thought be expressed in such a way easier comprehensible to information farmers: a sy-Stem of another Tree is graft onto the mainboard (trunk), causing the Executive branch (in this case an Intel CPU), to wither and become dormant until necessary energy moves through its Circuit warranting a vital Court to begin session.
In other words, that daughterboard is bipassing the Intel CPU for a defacto forum just as the Judiciary Department impunes the original cognizance of the de-jure Judiciary! To remind you, the original Judiciary is part of the Tree and its this other Judiciary Department that refers to the original as a peculiar part only because one is original and ther other is detracted by Contract; you need to pay extra monies and appoint the AMD daughterboard than you would for the original Intel CPU implimentation.
I doubt the new Slashdot crowd in our midst has ever seen any venture before this ECS motherboard, and I know of one for having awe-full(good) merit; PANDA. That PANDA was a excellent architecture put into production that was verry standards-compliant to allow an interchange of daughterboards interface to the main adaptor plane to allow ease of upgradability. At the time, the architecture was implemented for cross-use between Intel PENTIUM PRO and the DEC ALPHA 21164. The designs were further built to allow interchange for a PowerPC host, and many more were being completed in the draft. Here is the google cache with some pictures of the gaudy PANDA. Every once in a long while, there is an auction posted on eBay with this computer. Verry durrable computer, as anything graced by DEC employees tends to have value that goes beyond the forecasted market consumption.
The PANDA architecture is such a extensible design that it scaled beyond its time. There were dual and quad CPU implementations and the like; the enclosure's gaudy color was over-looked by the step-fastended media drivers. More google cache with details on the Archistrat computers.
This design dies quick, for obvious reasons; it is as though its a forum for competitors to engange intercourse between their products, and they don't want consumable hardware and not something that can last a long time: atourn; replace the CPU, the whole computer needs a new spine to match; like grapting an orange tree sy-Stem and an pink grapefruit sy-Stem onto a Lemon Tree(TM) for use as a more regenerative computer like an old mobile car.
Excellent show of courage, friend! Consider my strategy for confronting conspiracies: deny that one exists until it becomes violent beyond the control and scope of law.
After all, everyone in commercie is willing to agree that there is no conspiracy when it is a tendered matter of Civil War (oxy-moron); when there is no competition to view, the void is filed with those willing to remove it. If the United States doesn't manufacture its own products, then foreigners always will aggresively fill those positions to the capacity and 'nary the record shows that lost venue will return to the Americans. Consider farming; most family-owned farming is being destroyed by Department of Agriculture agents in favor of corporatized high-volume cattle concentration centers; whereas, none of the venue lost by families may ever return to them if the matter is approached by more families entering the line of work. It's a fight to the death! Never give up, while you still have the chance! Why do you suppose there are so many restrictions and licensing and taxing being forced into the United States? Simple; when good people surrender any small matter, that tradition is ruled licentious for it not being performed. And considering, this surely doesn't affect my thoughts as being a free country when a corporation outnumbers family-owned. Almost checkmate?
The first picture I got from that article was the accursed visage of n'Sync. Thanks for the warning. I only was able to read the first two pages and to sum up the study and workmanship is an accurate measurement of <i>db</i> noise rating at various levels of RPM of case fans. The article recommends you buy a FAN CONTROLLER, because a computer doesn't need a FAN revolving at full RPM to remain cool; and I believe that to be the articles conclusion with having only read three pages before slashdot effect. Here are the quotes;
------- Case fans at half speed:
Let's start of with the easiest of manipulations: reducing the speed of the two case fans should silence the system a bit, without losing too much cooling power.
Each fan's rotation speed was cut in half using the Aerogate II fan controller: (number between () is compared to default configuration)
Reducing the airflow inside you can see some changes; the hard drive's temp raises quite a bit, the other components only become a few degrees warmer. CPU actually becomes 1°C cooler, this is within the margin of error though, and it's quite possible that the two case fans were disrupting the airflow towards the CPU's fan.
Case fans at zero speed:
Now let's see how the system does without any case fans running: (number between () is compared to default configuration)
The noise doesn't decrease a lot when compared to the system running with the case fans running at half speed. The temperatures however increase quite a bit, closing in on +10°C for the HDD.
Conclusion: a fan controller should be near the top of your purchase list
Cost of the modification: $15-$70 depending on your needs.
Madshrimps (c)
Adding a fan controller can help reduce the noise generated the system's case fans effectively without affecting temperature a lot. Even a little bit of airflow proves to be much better then none at all. You can go all out and buy a fan controller with all the bells and whistles (memory card readers, LCD display, and allow control through software in Windows) or stick with a more modest model which features a series of knobs which control the fan's speed.
A) Too many companies leave false, misleading information.
Deception is a form of war. HINT: war is commerce.
B) Too many companies still believe a Web site is something you can build and leave alone, or revisit only once a year.
Website is only conveyance of information presented in an open document format. Why should the information change? Wouldn't you know, the best documents are read-only access; why do you want someone to supplant and otherwise append to the Constitution?
C) It'll keep large companies from hiring part-time Webmasters, and encourage more full time hires to conduct regular Web site updates.
Commerce is voluntary, not to be compelled. Compelling any to commerce is fraud still. Consider COPS, or METRO agents, or militant private notaries compelling people to commerce by presuming the people by unlawful conversion through the Judiciary Department and Justice Department as an "office of person" for impeachment, among other false arraignment.
This isn't a free country. It's such a free country, that people yelling "free" are the ones in power forcing their religion of "free" on everyone by the barrel of a gun. Conscription is coming; they don't like the Constitution limiting armies to being raised for preventing invasion; they want Conscription because everyone loves peace on earth, and there is no fraud in justices of the peace.
Just another general review of Carly assassinating HP. I enjoyed reading about our brother Wozniak, and I quote;
"Our biggest mistake at HP Labs came from being too cautious. We passed on developing Steve Wozniak's cheap little personal computer. Woz was working in HP's lab, on calculator projects, at the time. We knew the computer idea was great, but we couldn't work out how to market it, so we passed."
Did you hear that? Wozniak is responsible for Apple going where it went today! Imagine, it could've been HP dominating everyone and not a Apple and IBM alliance in sight! Instead, we all got and recently lost PA-RISC. Bad HP, bad...
Carly on the prowl. Why do I get the impression she's a butch anti-business lady pacing the halls condemning any form of creativity as being anti-business? I quote, "The lab was never packed with genius marketers. Carly told us we had no business sense, and that every project needed to make a profit within three years or less. She usually said that right before the research budget got slashed again and more lab employees were laid off."
Verry convicting. Bless this HP engineers heart for revealing this information in his liability, which many would often unjustly post anonymous. Somewhere, despite Carly's disgust for traditional HP innovation, I get the impression a CEO that digests its vital organs and calling it as progress and everyone doesn't honestly give protest; deserves to be downsized. I know Microsoft has high attendance when they have their CEO our lost brother Steve Balmer prancing on the stage. I quote, " In mid-2002, HP's labs became solely focused on finding ways for other businesses to save money. This led to some good projects -- grid computing, self-maintaining servers, self-healing systems. But the emphasis was not on creating new or better technology, just technology that would boost the bottom-line.
I left in late 2003."
Somehow, CEOs are more vested in politics by slandering product loss as profit. I can comprehend the effects of such propoganda in the verry vocabulary in students, researchers, ambulance chasers, lawyers, and the like. Carly accomplished her wicked deed, and none were prepared to return her blessed curses in good time that it would not cause harm to HP share-holders and future interests. I quote at last,
"Profit is every CEO's major focus. Research almost always benefits an entire industry more than any particular company. And research doesn't have immediate results."
I don't know about my fellow active slashdot posters' comprehension; I admit, to better prevent such dismal environment manifesting upon the blessed minds at HP and many other companies, all you need is a strong will holding-fast to a well-reigned mouth full of words. If Carly can destroy HP with bastardization, then it can be rebuilt with blessings. The same can be said about the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights given it by the people.
No, it isn't. When a company's software is suspected of being used for illegal activity, people often persecute/prosecute the owners by committing illegal acts themselves. We all need to study about slander and libel, that none of this can happen against us; the point to be made is, if someone hasn't been charged with a crime then their property or their rights must be unhindered.
As an aside, I am going to Bank of America today to open a non-interest-bearing account without attaching a Social Security Number. Their is no law requiring such, yet I have anticipated their reactions and will peacefully approach the non-affirmative "teller", prepared with aphidavits supporting my claim that compelled use of a Social Security Number on anything but its founding purpose constitutes fraud. I expect them to be pre-judicial against me, ignoring all the federal regulations put on banks. If they assume I am an alien seeking permanent residence instead of contending my fealty oaths and Citizenship to California, they'll be fined heavily for having violated their oaths and the law of the land.
Nobody needs 64bit computers from Intel; it's just a tech race again and there are yet to be any actual BUS performance beyond 133MHz and to utilize the bus bitwidth as efficient as Sun UltraSparc and Alpha. If everyone needs higherprecision computers for value, then we would all be buying SuperH-based systems. But instead, the ball keeps rolling into courts that neither Intel nor Microsoft have a track record of performing well in.
I didn't compare Alpha computers as being a wristwatch in comparison to Intel: you did; and to correct you, it's actually the opposite of your comparison, Intel being the metaphorical wristwatch.
Never send a southerner to do the duty of a duke boy.
You can buy a well-built complete DEC Alpha computer on eBay for the cost of the cheapest single Intel 64bit CPU. And worse, same on eBay you can somtimes buy a API Networks 1U CS Dual 800MHz Alpha system for the most expense single Intel 64bit CPU. And Alpha 21264 still outperforms Intel per watt. I'm not impressed.
You need to learn how to fight das corporation STATE presumptions that you are a corporate sole. Don't give quorum; only witness when they agree to witness. Demand an oath to uphold the Constitution, for any said Office. Learn the difference between an autograph, a signature, and a sign. After enough study, you'll be on your way to accept for value, refuse for cause, or discharge all unfounded and unjust obligations fictitious or otherwise.
Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207: Secured Party, Creditor under threat, duress, and coercion/s/ Gregory Thomas dba GREGORY THOMAS MUNDT
The purpose is not to read the material, but duplicate it onto a more stable medium. Every flick of the pen that is not discernable, actually influences the entire work. It needs to be preserved as would art! Accepting any less standards is an invitation for material to be converted out of context with the USian slang hither cursed the repositories for students this day.
There are books in the Library of Congress that have not been catalogued, neither touched this verry day, and are held under "national security" rules that none are allowed to read. The material, verily is damning that it carries military "Crypto" requirements for its perusal.
I say, in the Libary of Congress there are areas that are not allowed to be read. For instance, up until the War of 1812 was the first 30 years of common law governance for the united States of America. I suppose they'll digitally transcribe all the books that are already allowed to be read, and burn them with the banned-books befor they announce the liability of reading text on books plagued with flesh-eating book fungus. At least, the lawyer on the Disclosure Project, the Jesuit, knows the significance of getting to the books; before any document transcriptionist under the closed guidance of a military agent can mark them for replacement.
You use a .50 BMG for target practice? Think seriously, for the moment; with Consideration for the second amendment to the Constitution for the united States of America: necessary freedom for the State, guarunteed by the people to keep and bear arms. Greetings honored traveler, the State is free when you keep and bear arms. Today, the force preventing you to keep and bear arms are foreign powers located at a foreign State beknownst "District of Columbia". Despite "arms" ("guns for laymen) are not attractive to boastful people confident in settling excessively militant disputes with soothing words to an agressors clogged ears and distorted hateful mind, by forfeiting or giving any notion to forfeit that second amendment by any infringement implies that you don't have a free State!
Tada! No free State: is no free State. Are the people outside the non-free State supposed to be free? Tada, we are all entreated the same whether in a State, out of State, or in a foreign state or church-state or country.
Face it, the second amendment is the only statement that speaks of a free State as long as the people keep and bear arms.
The NRA are not nuts, they are just impotent. I'm a nut; and I hope you become the same; because the strongest of English Oaks began life as a mere nut that held their soil over time. I'm not a member of the NRA-- I'm just a network redundancy administrator; my weapons are not carnal, but spiritual: I only see a spiritual war. Owning a brutish peice of metal, with a mere moment of action to become dangerous, is no cause for theivery by confiscation until a trespass of unreasonable proportions and in bad faith is caused by its holder. With gun licenses, driver licenses, business licenses, fishing licenses; computer licenses are around the corner. Surely, our affections to computers are capable of more harm to many lifetimes than a abnoxiously loud iron tube. Besides that fact, a license implies prior restraint; implicating that we are all criminal until privileged to carry activities by the delegation of a non-interested few.
I can't find much information. Is Goodle purging all the cache? I could almost swear that Intel was livid with the AMD k6 architecture using "MMX", as well as Cyrix using its own mimic/derivative or different media extentions.
reported by vnunet.com, and here's the case documents when Intel tried to sue AMD to stop using the 386 microcode.
I can't find it. There's somthing on the tip of my tongue that occured way back in 1999 or a year or two earlier that I can't seem to pronounce. It couldn't be the DEC Alpha IP purchases plit between Intel and AMD or was that such? The DEC Alpha ev6 bus was used by the earliest AMD Athlons, but I don't think that was the dispute.
Not the first blunder. AMD was first accused of stealing the Pentium II design. After being sued by Intel, AMD agreed to license technology from Intel. Now, AMD having been sober all this time, it appears they have been caught again. From piracy, to blunder. What's next, AMD?
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Here's the mirror text of the article, BTW;
Benchmarks haunt AMD's Turion
By Ashlee Vance in Chicago
Published Tuesday 15th March 2005 21:49 GMT
Chip and server makers have an awful habit of unintentionally highlighting their weaknesses by making a big deal of dubious benchmarks. Intel has done it. IBM has done it. HP has done it. Sun Microsystems has done it. And, most recently, AMD has done it when it launched the mobile Turion 64 processors last week.
The Turion chips were designed to make AMD more competitive against Intel's Pentium-M processors. Specifically, AMD is looking for Turions to find their way into the thin'n'light notebooks that account for an ever larger chunk of laptop sales. Customers seem fed up with lugging around massive lap warmers.
A key factor in the thin'n'light category is the balance a notebook strikes between performance and battery life. So when a vendor - in this case AMD - puts all of its attention on performance and doesn't say one word about battery life, you know the product in question might have some balance issues.
AMD rolled out plenty of performance benchmarks in front of the press, stacking a Turion 64 notebook against a Pentium-M notebook in office productivity, digital media and gaming tests. But, while the 2.0GHz clock on both companies' chips would seem to indicate an apples to apples comparison, AMD really had a rather special system on its side.
Since no Turion laptops are actually on the market, AMD created a "reference" laptop of its own. The AMD system ran on a 35 watt Turion 64 and had a graphics processor from ATI. That's a pretty handy pairing when you decide to compare it against a 27 watt Pentium-M with Intel's integrated graphics processor. See the AMD system specs here (PDF) and the Intel system specs here.
AMD could well have picked its own 25 watt part to stack up against Intel and used a Pentium-M laptop equipped with an ATI or Nvidia graphics controller. But what would that have done to the benchmarks?
"If they had compared a 25 watt system and a lower power graphics controller, the numbers would be down a lot," said Martin Reynolds, an analyst at Gartner and an especially close PC industry watcher.
An AMD spokeswoman insisted the company picked "the most comparable offering from the competitor" that it could find, even though it didn't actually do that. AMD declined to provide any of its own battery life measurements at this time because there are no production laptops on the market to measure, she said. Somehow it's okay to use a "reference" system for performance results but not for battery life results.
The only third-party battery life indicator AMD could come up with was from a MSI Megabook S270 review written in German. Google's translator tells us, "The Subnotebook weighs approximately 1.8 kg and is with its lithium ion Akku (4400 mAh) approximately 4.5 hours to hold out." So, if holding out is important to you . .
Why is AMD being so coy?
"The answer is that the battery life isn't so good," Reynolds said, adding that Turion-powered systems could have up to one-third less battery life than laptops running on Intel's ultra low voltage products.
As Reynolds pointed out, AMD didn't do anything terribly unique with the Turion benchmarks. It saw that performance was the chip's strongest aspect and then tweaked the comparisons to make sure it outperformed Intel. Chipzilla has done this many times as well - one incident in particular comes to mind.
Potential customers, however, should be aware that Turion barely beat Pentium-M on numerous benchmarks even with the deck stacked in its favor. And it killed Pentium-M in gaming and digital media
Hoping yo enlighten you in this schizm reflecting the slashot article, but did you thoroughly read what you linked here? It says that it recharges when you leave it in the sun. Too bad it uses bulbs instead of white LEDs. That's not a redundant feature as anyone would expect; it also can "float" and is "durrable" accordingly. I think to be able to recharge is better than the Tech Light pens being sold today. True, that when I hear "solar-powered flashlight" will immediately think someone points a flaslight at its own solar array.
Look for a company known as "Quantum" and you'll see all kinds of unimaginable rendering farms. Quantum was using dedicated Pentium III Voodoo2 systems for the ray-tracing hardware on the "Metal" line. Remind you, these are near-commodity hardware with four Obsidian2 graphics adaptors each with four or six 3Dfx Voodoo2 chips on them; count the Voodoo2 and it is up near 16; and the render graphics beautifully! It's the 200SBi graphics adaptors, IIRC. And people still pay no less than US750 for these Pentium III voodoo2 systems and all the realy are paying for is a sticker with cadillac-length customized Voodoo2 hardware. The Government of the District of Columbia (aka U.S. Goverment) currently is moving all Quantum's attention. The FPGA is what will save Homebrew computing and we are all greatful for these FPGA overlords; given that the FPGA design is much more efficient than Quantum systems, and they are mostly free as in speech!
Great scot!
Is it 2012 already? Are the poles shifting back to Bermuda Triangle and South China Sea?
I'm seeing my life flash before my eyes on Slashdot!
It sounds to me that a centalized P2P network database is trying to extend its venue to banking. Kazaa is sinking! When eBay granted monopoly to PayPal, the eBay venue went to shit because PayPal had the blessing to access the eBay registration database to pander upon eBay participants. PayPal isn't even a bank, as confronted by U.S. Congress, and has slithered around without by its being in Germania and the primary fund with attached fraudulent IOU's held by Wells Fargo in the United States! Kazaa, acting as a bank? I'm glad I don't use Kazaa. I'ld rather endure the fear of downloading a Oops I Did It Again in my endless search on a non-Kazaa network for Alice in Chains.
It totally destroys abilities to use HF frequencies that are vital to long distance communications.
I have reason that you approached the situation in bad faith; have you ever considered that HF use by radio operators is a lawful activity slandered as causing damage to future interests of FCC-subsidized commercial communication future interests invested by corporations? Put that thought in your pipe and smoke it.
Amateur radio operators put alot of time, effort, and money into their hobby, and when something like this comes along, that can cripple them, who can blame them for fighting against it?
I don't slander lawful and courteous use of God's radio-waves as licensed (immoral activity). Your deem of a "Radio License" as "Hobby" falls on deaf ears to lawful men that do not engage in commercial press; limit your operation to freedom of press. When you slander and attempt to convert your actions to licentiousness by confessing the subjective words commercially into merchant domain, and bear witness maliciously against people with lawful use of radio-waves, it does not rest any attempt to censor or waive such as reasonable seizure of duties as rights subject to waiving as privileges and timely shared or equal use; the people != corporations.
FCC conducts religion; it is a corporation holding a testament given by its corporators. If you estoppe your slander of converting lawful activity into legal/legitimate form or licentiousness, then you'll have no difficulty exercising such special activities and common rights to foreward your happiness.
Try it on for size: rid your communication by the mark of the beast by announcing a THIRD-PARTY INTERFERENCE into a transmitting utility not blessed by the FCC. Kings endure courteous outcome; why the license?
It was just last week that my brother a prince retourned from a "boat show" convention with a foreign tributory title of nobility in the ill-form of a "Junior Fishing License"; You imagine that there are wicked religious fanatics and enthusiasts slandering and unlawfully converting the duty to timely exercise domain over God's fish equate to a "game" or "sport" and not as a lawful and righteous activity in the course of events to survive and preserve the future of fish; but I say not to acknowledge such conspiracy until it becomes worthy of a rebuke and necessary correction when it becomes a force in bad-faith contending default to assumed competitors by vandalism and mischief from enforcement "officers" and the like "COPS".
Gregory-Thomas at ~27MHz
A "Ham" operator I've known has been involved in petitioning against licensing technology to use the power lines for communication. He says it bleeds badly into the amateur radio bands; as if amateur radio doesn't bleed into any receiver not using any *pass filter.
In other new, I can hear faint transmission signals from John and Ken, Dr. Laura, and Rush Limburger on a land-line telephone if I concentrate enough. And worse, this neighbor of mine is adamantly against my tele-phonic receptance of slashdot servers; the echo is toooo annoyying they say.
I think everyone should be communicating be opening a can of Alphabet Soup, arrainging the encoded message, and consuming the information. Much more efficient and all. OT: And my Krishan brother says if he was president that he would make a law that anyone getting a Driver License may only use a miniature motor-scooter to ride for daily commuting to a worksite and back.
B) Weighed 75 pounds, had motorized doors, and SCSI drive arrays stored NASCAR grade roll cages.
And the drivers are alive, to this day; thanks to that roll cage. Problem is, their logical clock thinks it's the year 1905. Memory loss, or the effect of not shunning alcohol: you decide!
The PANDA architecture was great!
Interchange between Intel Pentium Pro, DEC Alpha, PowerPC, et al
Great design; the implementations are still power-ed up today and they can run MS Win NT 4 or LINUX.
I posted previously, and to serve food for your diet visit
here and here. PANDA, when it arrived, was quite expensive. As you can see, ECS is reaping the benefits of a better market and better technology of today. Perhaps, the holders of PANDA intellectual property should be made aware of ECS' interests on this Claim.
(puts on anti licensed-lawyer/attorney button)
Christ commands me that the thought be expressed in such a way easier comprehensible to information farmers: a sy-Stem of another Tree is graft onto the mainboard (trunk), causing the Executive branch (in this case an Intel CPU), to wither and become dormant until necessary energy moves through its Circuit warranting a vital Court to begin session.
In other words, that daughterboard is bipassing the Intel CPU for a defacto forum just as the Judiciary Department impunes the original cognizance of the de-jure Judiciary! To remind you, the original Judiciary is part of the Tree and its this other Judiciary Department that refers to the original as a peculiar part only because one is original and ther other is detracted by Contract; you need to pay extra monies and appoint the AMD daughterboard than you would for the original Intel CPU implimentation.
The persecution rests, your honor.
I doubt the new Slashdot crowd in our midst has ever seen any venture before this ECS motherboard, and I know of one for having awe-full(good) merit; PANDA. That PANDA was a excellent architecture put into production that was verry standards-compliant to allow an interchange of daughterboards interface to the main adaptor plane to allow ease of upgradability. At the time, the architecture was implemented for cross-use between Intel PENTIUM PRO and the DEC ALPHA 21164. The designs were further built to allow interchange for a PowerPC host, and many more were being completed in the draft. Here is the google cache with some pictures of the gaudy PANDA. Every once in a long while, there is an auction posted on eBay with this computer. Verry durrable computer, as anything graced by DEC employees tends to have value that goes beyond the forecasted market consumption.
The PANDA architecture is such a extensible design that it scaled beyond its time. There were dual and quad CPU implementations and the like; the enclosure's gaudy color was over-looked by the step-fastended media drivers. More google cache with details on the Archistrat computers.
This design dies quick, for obvious reasons; it is as though its a forum for competitors to engange intercourse between their products, and they don't want consumable hardware and not something that can last a long time: atourn; replace the CPU, the whole computer needs a new spine to match; like grapting an orange tree sy-Stem and an pink grapefruit sy-Stem onto a Lemon Tree(TM) for use as a more regenerative computer like an old mobile car.
The one PCI slot is 32bit 66MHz.
How to use Magma PCI extension to full performance capacity? It's always the little product omissions that are the most debate. Still, a great product. A great cluster!
Excellent show of courage, friend! Consider my strategy for confronting conspiracies: deny that one exists until it becomes violent beyond the control and scope of law.
After all, everyone in commercie is willing to agree that there is no conspiracy when it is a tendered matter of Civil War (oxy-moron); when there is no competition to view, the void is filed with those willing to remove it. If the United States doesn't manufacture its own products, then foreigners always will aggresively fill those positions to the capacity and 'nary the record shows that lost venue will return to the Americans. Consider farming; most family-owned farming is being destroyed by Department of Agriculture agents in favor of corporatized high-volume cattle concentration centers; whereas, none of the venue lost by families may ever return to them if the matter is approached by more families entering the line of work. It's a fight to the death! Never give up, while you still have the chance! Why do you suppose there are so many restrictions and licensing and taxing being forced into the United States? Simple; when good people surrender any small matter, that tradition is ruled licentious for it not being performed. And considering, this surely doesn't affect my thoughts as being a free country when a corporation outnumbers family-owned. Almost checkmate?
The first picture I got from that article was the accursed visage of n'Sync. Thanks for the warning. I only was able to read the first two pages and to sum up the study and workmanship is an accurate measurement of <i>db</i> noise rating at various levels of RPM of case fans. The article recommends you buy a FAN CONTROLLER, because a computer doesn't need a FAN revolving at full RPM to remain cool; and I believe that to be the articles conclusion with having only read three pages before slashdot effect. Here are the quotes;
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Case fans at half speed:
Let's start of with the easiest of manipulations: reducing the speed of the two case fans should silence the system a bit, without losing too much cooling power.
Each fan's rotation speed was cut in half using the Aerogate II fan controller:
(number between () is compared to default configuration)
Noise measurement: 37.1dBA (-2)
CPU: 56 (-1)
System: 38 (+4)
PWM: 47 (+1)
HDD: 36 (+7)
RAM: 39 (+1)
VGA: 59.5 (+2)
Top: 34.5 (+1.5)
Bottom: 35 (+4)
Reducing the airflow inside you can see some changes; the hard drive's temp raises quite a bit, the other components only become a few degrees warmer. CPU actually becomes 1°C cooler, this is within the margin of error though, and it's quite possible that the two case fans were disrupting the airflow towards the CPU's fan.
Case fans at zero speed:
Now let's see how the system does without any case fans running:
(number between () is compared to default configuration)
Noise measurement: 36.8dBA (-2.3)
CPU: 57 (0)
System: 41 (+7)
PWM: 47 (+1)
HDD: 38 (+9)
RAM: 40.1 (+2.1)
VGA: 61.5 (+4)
Top: 36.5 (+3.5)
Bottom: 38 (+7)
The noise doesn't decrease a lot when compared to the system running with the case fans running at half speed. The temperatures however increase quite a bit, closing in on +10°C for the HDD.
Conclusion: a fan controller should be near the top of your purchase list
Cost of the modification: $15-$70 depending on your needs.
Madshrimps (c)
Adding a fan controller can help reduce the noise generated the system's case fans effectively without affecting temperature a lot. Even a little bit of airflow proves to be much better then none at all. You can go all out and buy a fan controller with all the bells and whistles (memory card readers, LCD display, and allow control through software in Windows) or stick with a more modest model which features a series of knobs which control the fan's speed.
Here is a picture
A) Too many companies leave false, misleading information.
Deception is a form of war. HINT: war is commerce.
B) Too many companies still believe a Web site is something you can build and leave alone, or revisit only once a year.
Website is only conveyance of information presented in an open document format. Why should the information change? Wouldn't you know, the best documents are read-only access; why do you want someone to supplant and otherwise append to the Constitution?
C) It'll keep large companies from hiring part-time Webmasters, and encourage more full time hires to conduct regular Web site updates.
Commerce is voluntary, not to be compelled. Compelling any to commerce is fraud still. Consider COPS, or METRO agents, or militant private notaries compelling people to commerce by presuming the people by unlawful conversion through the Judiciary Department and Justice Department as an "office of person" for impeachment, among other false arraignment.
This isn't a free country. It's such a free country, that people yelling "free" are the ones in power forcing their religion of "free" on everyone by the barrel of a gun. Conscription is coming; they don't like the Constitution limiting armies to being raised for preventing invasion; they want Conscription because everyone loves peace on earth, and there is no fraud in justices of the peace.
Just another general review of Carly assassinating HP. I enjoyed reading about our brother Wozniak, and I quote;
"Our biggest mistake at HP Labs came from being too cautious. We passed on developing Steve Wozniak's cheap little personal computer. Woz was working in HP's lab, on calculator projects, at the time. We knew the computer idea was great, but we couldn't work out how to market it, so we passed."
Did you hear that? Wozniak is responsible for Apple going where it went today! Imagine, it could've been HP dominating everyone and not a Apple and IBM alliance in sight! Instead, we all got and recently lost PA-RISC. Bad HP, bad...
Carly on the prowl. Why do I get the impression she's a butch anti-business lady pacing the halls condemning any form of creativity as being anti-business? I quote,
"The lab was never packed with genius marketers. Carly told us we had no business sense, and that every project needed to make a profit within three years or less. She usually said that right before the research budget got slashed again and more lab employees were laid off."
Verry convicting. Bless this HP engineers heart for revealing this information in his liability, which many would often unjustly post anonymous. Somewhere, despite Carly's disgust for traditional HP innovation, I get the impression a CEO that digests its vital organs and calling it as progress and everyone doesn't honestly give protest; deserves to be downsized. I know Microsoft has high attendance when they have their CEO our lost brother Steve Balmer prancing on the stage. I quote,
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In mid-2002, HP's labs became solely focused on finding ways for other businesses to save money. This led to some good projects -- grid computing, self-maintaining servers, self-healing systems. But the emphasis was not on creating new or better technology, just technology that would boost the bottom-line.
I left in late 2003."
Somehow, CEOs are more vested in politics by slandering product loss as profit. I can comprehend the effects of such propoganda in the verry vocabulary in students, researchers, ambulance chasers, lawyers, and the like. Carly accomplished her wicked deed, and none were prepared to return her blessed curses in good time that it would not cause harm to HP share-holders and future interests. I quote at last,
"Profit is every CEO's major focus. Research almost always benefits an entire industry more than any particular company. And research doesn't have immediate results."
I don't know about my fellow active slashdot posters' comprehension; I admit, to better prevent such dismal environment manifesting upon the blessed minds at HP and many other companies, all you need is a strong will holding-fast to a well-reigned mouth full of words. If Carly can destroy HP with bastardization, then it can be rebuilt with blessings. The same can be said about the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights given it by the people.
Is this the beginning of the end for Kazaa?"
No, it isn't. When a company's software is suspected of being used for illegal activity, people often persecute/prosecute the owners by committing illegal acts themselves. We all need to study about slander and libel, that none of this can happen against us; the point to be made is, if someone hasn't been charged with a crime then their property or their rights must be unhindered.
As an aside, I am going to Bank of America today to open a non-interest-bearing account without attaching a Social Security Number. Their is no law requiring such, yet I have anticipated their reactions and will peacefully approach the non-affirmative "teller", prepared with aphidavits supporting my claim that compelled use of a Social Security Number on anything but its founding purpose constitutes fraud. I expect them to be pre-judicial against me, ignoring all the federal regulations put on banks. If they assume I am an alien seeking permanent residence instead of contending my fealty oaths and Citizenship to California, they'll be fined heavily for having violated their oaths and the law of the land.
Kazaa is no different.
Everyone wants a 386 PDA.
Nobody needs 64bit computers from Intel; it's just a tech race again and there are yet to be any actual BUS performance beyond 133MHz and to utilize the bus bitwidth as efficient as Sun UltraSparc and Alpha. If everyone needs higherprecision computers for value, then we would all be buying SuperH-based systems. But instead, the ball keeps rolling into courts that neither Intel nor Microsoft have a track record of performing well in.
I didn't compare Alpha computers as being a wristwatch in comparison to Intel: you did; and to correct you, it's actually the opposite of your comparison, Intel being the metaphorical wristwatch.
Never send a southerner to do the duty of a duke boy.
From the article
{
Pentium 4 660 3.6GHz 2MB yes / yes / yes $605
Pentium 4 650 3.4GHz 2MB yes / yes / yes $401
Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz 2MB yes / yes / yes $273
Pentium 4 630 3.0GHz 2MB yes / yes / yes $224
}
You can buy a well-built complete DEC Alpha computer on eBay for the cost of the cheapest single Intel 64bit CPU. And worse, same on eBay you can somtimes buy a API Networks 1U CS Dual 800MHz Alpha system for the most expense single Intel 64bit CPU. And Alpha 21264 still outperforms Intel per watt. I'm not impressed.
You need to learn how to fight das corporation STATE presumptions that you are a corporate sole. Don't give quorum; only witness when they agree to witness. Demand an oath to uphold the Constitution, for any said Office. Learn the difference between an autograph, a signature, and a sign. After enough study, you'll be on your way to accept for value, refuse for cause, or discharge all unfounded and unjust obligations fictitious or otherwise.
/s/ Gregory Thomas dba GREGORY THOMAS MUNDT
Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207: Secured Party, Creditor
under threat, duress, and coercion