my point is you have to take the big picture when making a choice.
There is no objective "best tool" in general, there are a lot of criteria and the "best tool" depends directly on their relative priority.
Using OSS at any cost is akin to using democracy at any cost, that is, the freedom as a software engineer to see the code and have standard tools IS a part of the goal of that sort of attitude.
How fast the process runs, or every little feature are important in niche areas, but in other areas it doesn't matter, just like it doesn't matter if Word dumps out big bloated.DOC files, it's not the main criteria that they be smaller.
So when talking about freedom in a software context there is a goal there to preserve ones flexibility. One can get there by ussing OSS tools, but not by using closed tools.
It's perfectly sensible to consider the criteria of [insert type of freedom here] as weighing more heavily than [insert type of engineering constraint here].
And a good example of where most people make exactly that kind of judgement is prefering messy out of control democracy to clean and orderly totalitarianism. So that's the example I used, although the real issue is a simple matter of the logistics of decision making.
I can't get my redhat box to print to my Win 98 printer.
shouldn't I be able to do that if it's shared? Isn't the printer also shared via SMB.
I know little about the SMB protocol or Samba, no doubt that's possibly the problem. But I did follow a HOWTO and other random instructions from the voices in my^W^W^W Internet.
helping your employee find a job suited to his unique skills, and thereby losing a good employee... well, damn it... so what if you flunked out of the MBA program for that kind of thinking? I like you!:)
sounds as if it's possibly time to rename the Old Testament the "Older Testament" so we can call the New Testament the "Old Testament", since it's no longer in effect either.
since you asked for correction, here is a clarification.
Caldera sold linux for years. They RENAMED themselves SCO after buying SCO. So SCO actually is the actual company that has been distributing linux for years. But mind you, not well.
It's ridiculous to say C++ is a low level language. You can work at whatever high level you want. For god's sake with MS Dev you can even work in "draw an interface click to write code" mode.
No one has convinced me that C++ isn't arbitrarily high or low level, depending on what the developer wants.
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... next I hope they start doing this for sports.
Yes, I noticed this, on my Solaris 8 box, it came with apache... but in RedHat, no apache... there's something called httpd though....
{um that would be +1 "Funny", or possibly -10 "Not Funny", but not -1 "That is apache you idiot"}
my point is you have to take the big picture when making a choice.
.DOC files, it's not the main criteria that they be smaller.
There is no objective "best tool" in general, there are a lot of criteria and the "best tool" depends directly on their relative priority.
Using OSS at any cost is akin to using democracy at any cost, that is, the freedom as a software engineer to see the code and have standard tools IS a part of the goal of that sort of attitude.
How fast the process runs, or every little feature are important in niche areas, but in other areas it doesn't matter, just like it doesn't matter if Word dumps out big bloated
So when talking about freedom in a software context there is a goal there to preserve ones flexibility. One can get there by ussing OSS tools, but not by using closed tools.
It's perfectly sensible to consider the criteria of [insert type of freedom here] as weighing more heavily than [insert type of engineering constraint here].
And a good example of where most people make exactly that kind of judgement is prefering messy out of control democracy to clean and orderly totalitarianism. So that's the example I used, although the real issue is a simple matter of the logistics of decision making.
>Are all your Computer Science classes taught using Visual Basic?
aaaaaaaahrrrhrrhggg, shoot me.
ps: still don't like el rushbo.
when deciding if you prefer democracy to totalitarianism, do you find yourself asking, "well, which is more efficient producer of widgets?"
well do you?
Uninstall.
RealPlayer 8 isn't too evil, and that is still their linux version.
or is it?
are you sure it "works"?
I can't get my redhat box to print to my Win 98 printer.
shouldn't I be able to do that if it's shared? Isn't the printer also shared via SMB.
I know little about the SMB protocol or Samba, no doubt that's possibly the problem. But I did follow a HOWTO and other random instructions from the voices in my^W^W^W Internet.
for some reason, people that fantasize about throwing away money never seem to become billionaires.
I know. IR1.
your sig is one of the mysteries of the universe.
my current theory is it's some sort of donut.
not to mention holier than thou AC posts!
let me just say, you rock!
:)
helping your employee find a job suited to his unique skills, and thereby losing a good employee... well, damn it... so what if you flunked out of the MBA program for that kind of thinking? I like you!
sounds as if it's possibly time to rename the Old Testament the "Older Testament" so we can call the New Testament the "Old Testament", since it's no longer in effect either.
You are starting to define the first rank in game development... Peter is still in! ... because... I just said so!
since you asked for correction, here is a clarification.
Caldera sold linux for years. They RENAMED themselves SCO after buying SCO. So SCO actually is the actual company that has been distributing linux for years. But mind you, not well.
This reminds me of the time when I used to sometimes split my infinitives, and then finally the Oxford Dictionary came around to my way of thinking.
If I was an irony minor, this is where I'd dig.
but you don't HAVE to manage your own memory. You can EASILY use a class system that manages memory for you! It can employ garbage collection.
I MIGHT do something low level in C++, it doesn't stop me.
But I MIGHT do something high level in C++, it doesn't stop me there either.
Would you say that to be High Level a language has to close off access to low level powers?
ah, you have a point.
:]
[/me thanks self for not writing the flame that had come to mind!
do you really believe you have to "write code" to use Linux?
and by default, Red Hat seemed to let me have a ton of services turned on I didn't need.
I find it difficult to believe you really use Linux. You dont' have to write anything for it.
Actually C++'s approach to simplicy is called...
Class Systems.
It's ridiculous to say C++ is a low level language. You can work at whatever high level you want. For god's sake with MS Dev you can even work in "draw an interface click to write code" mode.
No one has convinced me that C++ isn't arbitrarily high or low level, depending on what the developer wants.
plus the work brought forward from the Solaris engineers.
The plan is, soon Sun, HP and IBM will show up in penguin suits to sooth management (by fixing the problem, no doubt).
>The open source community has a short memory for insults;
you sure?
I think SCO brought it.