As a long time Debian user (ex now but for reasons that have nothing to do with this or anything else mentioned in the article) the only problem with Ubuntu, well there are many but I'm ignoring what I see as some of it's more fatal flaws as many view these as features, is that their users tend to pollute Debian support fourms and tend to not take no for an answer. As in "Yes we *know* Ubuntu is based on Debian but *no* it is not Debian and no we will not support it."
Other than that issue it's not like they are competing or anything and for what it is Ubuntu seems to be fairly decent. I just don't happen to like what it is. But on that point I'm going to be at odds with most folks here and thus only wanted to point out that people need to really grok that *no* based-ons are not Debian and that people who support Debian are, in general, not interested in supporting based-ons and when you are told that you *really* should take no for an answer.
It's not so much that it's Linux as the fact that you can get the source, modify it, and reload it. This allows you to do things with it that you can't with the "mainstream" one. For example I have several of them doing very complex routing with the Freeman firmware that you simply can't do with the defualt firmware. Not to mention if you want to use one as a WiFi bridge.
So any other OSS firmware would do. But you won't be able to hack the firmware on the new model.
While I'm not really happy with the price increase they are still dirt cheap (and I stocked up last weekend) and this way when you buy one you *know* you are getting one with hackable firmware.
Because it's on my iBook, which has become my primary desktop machine, and because it's what all of my friends who IM use.
As for work. I hunt down and hurt people who IM on my network. Although I do think setting up a secure jabber server might be worthwhile at some point.
Yes I KNOW there is a brand of duct tape called duck tape.
Speed tape, or 100 MPH tape, which is what the military uses is not duct tape. Close but no cigar. And nobody in the military calls it duct *or* duck tape.
Yeah, whatever. You've clearly never worked in a field where it *is* important whether something is a Unix or not. You'll also notice that all of those projects discuss this early and often. Not knowing these things and not being able to speak to them is a sign of a serious lack of experience that was my point. Nothing more nothing less.
You will also notice that I called him a bright young man and noted that he has some very good ideas. I didn't say there was anything wrong with his plan merely that in an interview type situation that is one of those details that is sometimes used to determine if someone has real experience or not.
As far as ipfilter goes. That's critical. Ipfilter and pf are two very different things. Granted they do more or less the same job but one is not the other and really if he is claiming to want to deploy an OpenBSD based perimeter defense system (Note that mine *is* based off of OpenBSD) he really should never make that mistake.
My point was nothing more and nothing less than the fact that he needs to gain more experience/knowledge. You'll notice I was not faint with my praise for where he is at and several time expressed the opninon that with a bit more experience he could go far.
This was all in the context of looking for a job. The fact of the matter is if one doesn't know enough to see the trap in that question and answer it with the correct qualifers then one is not an admin.
My point was that some years of being a hobbiest and playing with stuff gives one the foundation to grow into an admin and does not make one an admin.
Yes as a matter of function you are correct. As a matter of detail you are not. It was the knowledge of detail and the explanaton and analysis that you gave that I was looking for.
So no none of those are Unix. If one doesn't know enough to explain why and also, as you did, to explain why it doesn't really matter then one needs more training in one form or another before looking for admin jobs.
You *do* know that you didn't mention a single Unix, right? And that OpenBSD doesn't have ipfilter?
Granted you seem pretty bright but this brings me to my point. You aren't even close to being an admin. You are a bright kid with some good ideas who could very well be trained to be an admin.
My suggestion. Take a tech support job if you can find it and start learning everything you can from a real admin or get more education.
So no at this point you don't qualify to suggest anything to me.:)
But you could very easily train into someone who could. Keep humble about your skillset and experience, be willing to learn, and start looking for entry level jobs. Do these things and you'll go far. Continue to think that you are an admin and you'll wonder why you don't get any offers.
If you don't know that stuff might I suggest that at 18 you aren't ready for work and maybe need to find something part time and continue your education?
For example. You say you are a Unix admin and would "convert the whole thing into UNIX stuff within the end of the next year." One simple question, and please take this as the friendly attempt to make a point it's meant to be. What flavour of Unix?
"Every gerund, without exception, ends in -ing. Gerunds are not, however, all that easy to pick out. The problem is that all present participles also end in -ing. What is the difference?
Gerunds function as nouns. Thus, gerunds will be subjects, subject complements, direct objects, indirect objects, and objects of prepositions. Present participles, on the other hand, complete progressive verbs or act as modifiers."
Sony is a large multinational and technically speaking one company.
Having said this to think of it as such would be a huge mistake. In any company that size the link between divisions is tenuous to say the least. And they really should be thought of as different companies.
Before the current thing one of the best examples was the disconnect between their movie division and their hardware division. Even as the movie division was making noises about region coding their hardware division was selling what, at that time, was one of the few non-region coded DVD players on the market.
So long story short. The games division has never been really evil while the music division has always been really evil.
Thus his answer. "No we are not going to do these things cause we know all our money is made in subscritptions." The fact that the music side did really has little to nothing to do with the games side.
And the Bush Administration has just what to do with the root DNS servers?
You do know that is what this is all about, right. A distributed database that is is *impossible* for anybody to "control". Not even all the root servers are in the US. And those that are are ran by volunteers, most of whom likely disllke Bush and his policies as much as you and I do. They only really listen to ICANN as a courtesy. ICANN certainly has no right to tell them what to do. And you are free to point at other root servers. I do.
Simply put people continue to use the current system because it works and fits their needs and wants. If they ever did do anything really evil people like you would whine about it while people like myself would route around it like the damage it is and then make it possible for the rest of you to do so.
So please I beg you point to or explain in some way how anybody "controls the Internet". It is simply put, impossible to do so. God are we really at the point in space/time where someond reading and posting to/. doesn't know how DNS works?
The problem you are describing with FTP is *not* because of NAT. It is perfectly possible to support acitve mode FTP through NAT I do it all the time. Go read some more.
All of my firewalls are statefull. Right now. No problem there. No need for IPv6. There are many good reasons for the model being the way it is any good networking book will explain this. I simpley don't see any gain that
Really. Have a specific example? I've never had any problem at all making two boxen that are both behind seperate NAT boxes talk to each other.
In my particular case it's because I see no upside to it and at least several downsides.
1. The addys are just plain fugly and hard to work with. I'm willing to grant that this is because I'm lazy and is hightly subjective.
2. It's far too smart. The genius of TCP/IP is that it is a "dumb protocol". IMO IPv6 moves too far from this.
3. In spite of all the anti-NAT stuff floating around it is not a hack/kludge and NAT does not cause problems. Every example I've seen of a supposed NAT problem has actually been a problem caused by some coder doing things the way that was easy for her and not following the model. If you follow the model it may be harder to write but it will work. Going to IPv6 just masks this problem. The model doesn't change and the fact that the code is borken doesn't change. It just makes the symptoms go away. I think we should just fix the code.
The song format is *not* proprietary. It is nothing more or less than a MP4. A non-DRMed aac can play under any player that supports MP4. To include xmms, beep media player, or Audion. The DRM *is* owned by Apple and is the bit that would need to be licensed.
ATX is a form factor. Nothing more nothing less. I have NFI what you are talking about when you call it a "standard".
I agree with you wrt the OS. I *love* OS X. Personally I like HFS+ but then again filesystems are almost as much a religious war as vi vs emacs (vi btw).
I don't do markting speak so again you are reading stuff into what I said that is not there.
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As a long time Debian user (ex now but for reasons that have nothing to do with this or anything else mentioned in the article) the only problem with Ubuntu, well there are many but I'm ignoring what I see as some of it's more fatal flaws as many view these as features, is that their users tend to pollute Debian support fourms and tend to not take no for an answer. As in "Yes we *know* Ubuntu is based on Debian but *no* it is not Debian and no we will not support it."
Other than that issue it's not like they are competing or anything and for what it is Ubuntu seems to be fairly decent. I just don't happen to like what it is. But on that point I'm going to be at odds with most folks here and thus only wanted to point out that people need to really grok that *no* based-ons are not Debian and that people who support Debian are, in general, not interested in supporting based-ons and when you are told that you *really* should take no for an answer.
Point to a piece of software that has no flaws.
It's not so much that it's Linux as the fact that you can get the source, modify it, and reload it. This allows you to do things with it that you can't with the "mainstream" one. For example I have several of them doing very complex routing with the Freeman firmware that you simply can't do with the defualt firmware. Not to mention if you want to use one as a WiFi bridge.
So any other OSS firmware would do. But you won't be able to hack the firmware on the new model.
While I'm not really happy with the price increase they are still dirt cheap (and I stocked up last weekend) and this way when you buy one you *know* you are getting one with hackable firmware.
All things considered I see this as a win.
It's satire. Have you never read El Reg before?
WTF is the world coming to?
Because it's on my iBook, which has become my primary desktop machine, and because it's what all of my friends who IM use.
As for work. I hunt down and hurt people who IM on my network. Although I do think setting up a secure jabber server might be worthwhile at some point.
Yes I KNOW there is a brand of duct tape called duck tape.
Speed tape, or 100 MPH tape, which is what the military uses is not duct tape. Close but no cigar. And nobody in the military calls it duct *or* duck tape.
Duct. Duct tape.
I mean you *could* use it on ducks but it's certainly not named after that usage.
Yeah, whatever. You've clearly never worked in a field where it *is* important whether something is a Unix or not. You'll also notice that all of those projects discuss this early and often. Not knowing these things and not being able to speak to them is a sign of a serious lack of experience that was my point. Nothing more nothing less.
You will also notice that I called him a bright young man and noted that he has some very good ideas. I didn't say there was anything wrong with his plan merely that in an interview type situation that is one of those details that is sometimes used to determine if someone has real experience or not.
As far as ipfilter goes. That's critical. Ipfilter and pf are two very different things. Granted they do more or less the same job but one is not the other and really if he is claiming to want to deploy an OpenBSD based perimeter defense system (Note that mine *is* based off of OpenBSD) he really should never make that mistake.
My point was nothing more and nothing less than the fact that he needs to gain more experience/knowledge. You'll notice I was not faint with my praise for where he is at and several time expressed the opninon that with a bit more experience he could go far.
This was all in the context of looking for a job. The fact of the matter is if one doesn't know enough to see the trap in that question and answer it with the correct qualifers then one is not an admin.
My point was that some years of being a hobbiest and playing with stuff gives one the foundation to grow into an admin and does not make one an admin.
Yes as a matter of function you are correct. As a matter of detail you are not. It was the knowledge of detail and the explanaton and analysis that you gave that I was looking for.
So no none of those are Unix. If one doesn't know enough to explain why and also, as you did, to explain why it doesn't really matter then one needs more training in one form or another before looking for admin jobs.
Thanks for making my point.
:)
You *do* know that you didn't mention a single Unix, right? And that OpenBSD doesn't have ipfilter?
Granted you seem pretty bright but this brings me to my point. You aren't even close to being an admin. You are a bright kid with some good ideas who could very well be trained to be an admin.
My suggestion. Take a tech support job if you can find it and start learning everything you can from a real admin or get more education.
So no at this point you don't qualify to suggest anything to me.
But you could very easily train into someone who could. Keep humble about your skillset and experience, be willing to learn, and start looking for entry level jobs. Do these things and you'll go far. Continue to think that you are an admin and you'll wonder why you don't get any offers.
If you don't know that stuff might I suggest that at 18 you aren't ready for work and maybe need to find something part time and continue your education?
For example. You say you are a Unix admin and would "convert the whole thing into UNIX stuff within the end of the next year." One simple question, and please take this as the friendly attempt to make a point it's meant to be. What flavour of Unix?
No I didn't. Just made the joke. (Although that's really how I dress)
Does it have negative things to say about black on black on black?
Just do what I do.
Black shirt with collar and/or black t-shirt
Black jeans.
Black combat boots.
Black hoodie for between home/office/bus/train.
Done and done.
"Every gerund, without exception, ends in -ing. Gerunds are not, however, all that easy to pick out. The problem is that all present participles also end in -ing. What is the difference?
Gerunds function as nouns. Thus, gerunds will be subjects, subject complements, direct objects, indirect objects, and objects of prepositions. Present participles, on the other hand, complete progressive verbs or act as modifiers."
Sony is a large multinational and technically speaking one company.
Having said this to think of it as such would be a huge mistake. In any company that size the link between divisions is tenuous to say the least. And they really should be thought of as different companies.
Before the current thing one of the best examples was the disconnect between their movie division and their hardware division. Even as the movie division was making noises about region coding their hardware division was selling what, at that time, was one of the few non-region coded DVD players on the market.
So long story short. The games division has never been really evil while the music division has always been really evil.
Thus his answer. "No we are not going to do these things cause we know all our money is made in subscritptions." The fact that the music side did really has little to nothing to do with the games side.
And the Bush Administration has just what to do with the root DNS servers?
/. doesn't know how DNS works?
You do know that is what this is all about, right. A distributed database that is is *impossible* for anybody to "control". Not even all the root servers are in the US. And those that are are ran by volunteers, most of whom likely disllke Bush and his policies as much as you and I do. They only really listen to ICANN as a courtesy. ICANN certainly has no right to tell them what to do. And you are free to point at other root servers. I do.
Simply put people continue to use the current system because it works and fits their needs and wants. If they ever did do anything really evil people like you would whine about it while people like myself would route around it like the damage it is and then make it possible for the rest of you to do so.
So please I beg you point to or explain in some way how anybody "controls the Internet". It is simply put, impossible to do so. God are we really at the point in space/time where someond reading and posting to
I don't know. Descent was pretty damn fast.
Getting all your news from one spot and not checking things that seem *really* odd is a bad idea.
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There is clearly more to this story than the BBC is reporting. Granted this is likely an innocent mistake on their behalf, but still.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=andrew%20stim
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1871540
The other links off of there are rahter interesting to say the least.
The problem you are describing with FTP is *not* because of NAT. It is perfectly possible to support acitve mode FTP through NAT I do it all the time. Go read some more.
All of my firewalls are statefull. Right now. No problem there. No need for IPv6. There are many good reasons for the model being the way it is any good networking book will explain this. I simpley don't see any gain that
Really. Have a specific example? I've never had any problem at all making two boxen that are both behind seperate NAT boxes talk to each other.
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Come on it was clearly a joke.
In my particular case it's because I see no upside to it and at least several downsides.
1. The addys are just plain fugly and hard to work with. I'm willing to grant that this is because I'm lazy and is hightly subjective.
2. It's far too smart. The genius of TCP/IP is that it is a "dumb protocol". IMO IPv6 moves too far from this.
3. In spite of all the anti-NAT stuff floating around it is not a hack/kludge and NAT does not cause problems. Every example I've seen of a supposed NAT problem has actually been a problem caused by some coder doing things the way that was easy for her and not following the model. If you follow the model it may be harder to write but it will work. Going to IPv6 just masks this problem. The model doesn't change and the fact that the code is borken doesn't change. It just makes the symptoms go away. I think we should just fix the code.
You are right about everything but one detail.
The song format is *not* proprietary. It is nothing more or less than a MP4. A non-DRMed aac can play under any player that supports MP4. To include xmms, beep media player, or Audion. The DRM *is* owned by Apple and is the bit that would need to be licensed.
ATX is a form factor. Nothing more nothing less. I have NFI what you are talking about when you call it a "standard".
I agree with you wrt the OS. I *love* OS X. Personally I like HFS+ but then again filesystems are almost as much a religious war as vi vs emacs (vi btw).
I don't do markting speak so again you are reading stuff into what I said that is not there.
Well said. And yes as you pointed out building it yourself has little to nothing to do with cost.
No it's pretty much a standard PPC mobo. There are lots of computers out there that aren't ATX. It's not the only standard.
No the word great has been around and in use for centuries. Speak English, much?