I have not read the article but the one thing that gamers are always concerned about when you start to hack a system or a game is cheating. The other thing they may be concerned about is that the thing that makes a console special is that the people writing the software only have to write to one set of hardware and they know what that hardware and the OS driving that hardware is. Now having looked at GamePro a couple of times I'm going to guess that they don't understand the whole OSS peer-review type system and are assuming that the games will be more or less closed source. This would mean that my you and me fixing the machine they then have to rewrite everything to take into account our changes forcing people to rebuy games etc etc. They are wrong but I can see how they would see this as taking away the one advantage a console has over a PC.
true story. I bought a %100 legal good to go copy of UT (Unreal Tournament). I insalled it and had a load of fun. Then as will happen the CD fell into the hands of my 5 year old son. Needless to say it did not survive the encounter. Being used to this I had made a backup copy of said CD. But it does not run. Well I then went over to the fine folks at www.megagames.com and did a end run around the copy protection. This is an example of a tool that lets me get fair use from the product I purchased the I think is legal in the context that I used it and the would be illegal under the DMCA. What do you all think?
It may be that the kid can not sponser his parents but it is true that the kid is a citizen and in practice they are at that point not going to kick him out unless he either does something illegal or becomes a burden on society. Given what I know of Linus either of these seems unlikely therefore while no he would not become a citizen because of this he would be able to stay in the country until the child decides if she wants to be American or Finnish. In any case that is how they explained it to me when I was talking with them last. Oh the comment about using abbervations was *very* funny.
She is a citizen by default. Unemployed people on welfare have been able to stay because of this. IANAL but my wife is from overseas and I have talked to those wonderful (not) people from the INS more that I care to admit. IMHO if he plays it right yes it could.
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This is one of the things they are very usefull for. In particular this makes a very good option for SOHO type setups. I do a bit of side work setting up SOHO types with this. The other thing older boxes are good at is a simple static web server. For example one Dr. I worked for wanted to put a simple static schedule for this office and have a browser front end for it. An old Pentium is doing fine in that role. Print servers using Samba is something else they do quite well.
I think the slowness is due to well/. If it is standing u this well, a Debian story on/. for gawds sake. It will be really fast when it is not getting pounded into the ground
this is in some ways a bigger obstacle to growth than M$ ever was. I think it is about time that someone brought these "peoples" attention to the DOJ. Normally I don't advocate government intervention but in this cause the USPTO created the monster and now either they or the DOJ needs to bring it down. I don't know if it would hold up (IANAL) but the best case I can think of is that this is going to drive prices on something that has become central to the US economy through the roof. Aso really sounds to be like they are trying their best to be a monopoly. I don't really know. Anybody else have any good ideas?
You are right while Card rocks in many ways and most of his books are great. Also I'm from Utah where he has a special place in all our geek hearts. I have to agree that Ender's Game should have been the first and last book with young Ender in it. I think that instead of this I will read Treason again. Although I have yet to click over to the preview and it might change my mind I'm not hopeful.
First of all what servers and clients are all the nasty new viri hitting Exchange. Also with procmail it is much easier to filter them out before they get into the hands of users than with Exchange. The more important reason is your people. It is clear from the question that you have admins who know the *nix solutions that you are using and have been using them for some time. Given this fact you will have problems with Exchange because while yes you all could learn it and sooner or later get it up to speed there would be a painful time there during the switch and most likely for some time afterward. Also you would have to get all new hardware (and if they are upgrading the software anyway you could get much more bang for your buck from a *nix solution) and software also from what I have been told by Exchange admins you *will* have problems with anyone not using Outlook like most M$ products it does not play nice with others. So the real question would be would any benefits of a switch (I can't think of any just at the moment) out weigh the obvious problems, downtime, and money (both lost and spent) that it would cause. OTOH if they do switch and you need to get rid of the Sun boxen send me a email:)
I wrote "In other words the Debian example is perfect the decisions aobut how to code are still going to made at the same level they have always been made in almost every software project ever. By the coder." I pretty sure this clearly states that I do understand that the decisions about how to implement something is in fact made by the coder(s) usually one or two people with complete control that really is the only way to do it it is a creative process after all. And then you are right all of the big decisions are made by voting. This is what I said. The decision to include say for a random example, xfstt, is made in a democratic matter and then, because it is really the only way it can be done, the decisions about how to implement xfstt are made by you the maintainer. Now you say you could fork it for Debian if you wanted to. I'm sure you could. I'm also sure if you don't have a very good reason that can be explained to alot of other people you would find your CVS rights gone. I could be wrong on this please educate me if I am. I think if you reread my post and enage the sacrasm filter you will find that we agree. Debian works because the decisions about what to do. Include package x, y, and z etc etc are made by a vote. Then the decision about how to implement those decisions are made by the coders who in the end are responsible to the people who have made the decision about what to do. The great thing about democracy is that when you are one of the people who makes the decisions about what to do you are going to want to really try and make it work.
This is kind of OT but would someone please tell me how the above is a troll? I never really bought into the moderators on crack theory before but I'm starting to get think maybe there is something to it now.
I don't doubt that it is there. I'm making fun of the monkey who wrote the article he heard encoding wrote encryption. (This is what I think he did at least) Life is just not worth living when you have to explain the joke.
just took a jobe with these monkeys he did it mainly for stock options. I'm thinking he made a error. This is *very* silly. You are building your entire business model around high end servers and in fact it is becoming very common to put SMP machines on desktops and then no SMP support and at the same time AMD is coming up with some very sweet chips with SMP support. Can you say bye-bye? Very good Intel I knew you could. BTW check out the Linux Journal article this month on the Duron. Very cool stuff.
I assume that you are talking about the recent election here in America. But the thing you forget is that America!=democracy America==republic. Simple fact the system is working exactly as it was designed it was just not designed to do what many people thought it was designed to do. Nothing to see here move along.
Nope I'm not wrong. Think about it the fine folks at Debian take packages (many of them have written those same packages) and integrate it into a OS (the kernel tools and over 3k packages last I looked, along with an installer and a *sweet* package system) How is this so different from what these people are talking about. The Debian folks decide on features that they want to include (what packages are installed by default, what packages are ported, how things are set up by default, how they want the installer to work, package management stuff) and then they decide how this should all be done when it is done etc. Sounds like what most managers at software companies do to me. Simple fact coding is best done by one person or at most very small groups. It is then up to another group on how to put all the little parts together and make them work. Much like well Debian. They take a bunch of little bits that where written by other people. Think about it how sexy are install disks or a partition program and yet somehow it all gets done and done well. The simple fact is these are craftsmen (people, women, beings) they do the boring stuff because it needs to be done to make the sexy stuff work. In other words the Debian example is perfect the decisions aobut how to code are still going to made at the same level they have always been made in almost every software project ever. By the coder. The decisions about what to code, which in the end boil down to what features you want to include and making all of the little bits work together will be being made in the same way Debian makes those same decisions.
You are 100 percent right democratic software development can not happen. I'm feeling kind of sad that I'm going to have to go tell my Debian servers that they don't exist and that I'm going to have to tell my Debian box at home (That I just got x 4.0 to work on) that it can't exist in the real world either. Mainly because you are right no one will do the boring stuff and it just can't happen because of course democracy==communism. Yup that was a very smart comment sir. Thank you for showing me the way.
I've read some about Python maybe when I have time to learn a language to have fun with that looks cool. No the primary reason I'm learning Perl is becuase I'm and admin with Linux, *BSD, Irix, and Sun boxen that I need to be able to write quick little scripts to do the admin stuff I have to do. (I'm a quite junior admin btw) Perl seems to be the way to do this because I can count on it being on all of the boxen. Kind of like the same theory behind learning Vi yup it may not be as good as Emacs IMHO. But it is always there.
and now I'm going to go into the corner and cry or maybe laugh I just don't know. In truth this is pretty cool because while you can write really good code with Perl you can also produce well this stuff. Now I'm just looking forward to the day when I can read these programs. BTW,and yes this is on topic if you think about it, how many others would like to see a O'Reilly slashbox. I know I would.
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Scour, from the little that I used it, had a much wider amount of material than Napster (Go OpenNap) to include of course the "clipart" (for purposes of this post clipart==pron) It also had a bunch of pictures of people you don't know and most likely don't want to know mpegs that where both legal, semi-legal, and not so legal (My copy of the Crazy video very clearly falls into the last, trailers that I think the studios would rather you have to go to their site to get would be in the second, and the various bits of clipart featuring Kobe Tai are clearly in the first. As I understand it from a article that I read yesterday they mostly went down because the VC would not give them money because of the suits pending due to the not legal content but there was a *lot* of stuff. The only downside was it always seemed slower then napster. Oh well at least we still have opennap now they just need to expand so they can have clipart also.
Oh I had not thought of David Drake but yes he could do a very good job. Also I just thought Jerry Pournelle would also be really good. Ok here is my, worthless, proposal. Neal tells us how the AIs came into being and why they hate humans then David Drake, Robert Jordan, and Jerry Pournelle each gives us one book during the war. Have not read the other author mentioned I should look him up. That would be very cool
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I have not read the article but the one thing that gamers are always concerned about when you start to hack a system or a game is cheating. The other thing they may be concerned about is that the thing that makes a console special is that the people writing the software only have to write to one set of hardware and they know what that hardware and the OS driving that hardware is. Now having looked at GamePro a couple of times I'm going to guess that they don't understand the whole OSS peer-review type system and are assuming that the games will be more or less closed source. This would mean that my you and me fixing the machine they then have to rewrite everything to take into account our changes forcing people to rebuy games etc etc. They are wrong but I can see how they would see this as taking away the one advantage a console has over a PC.
Kewl thanks for the info.
a Mentat. That's all I want.
true story. I bought a %100 legal good to go copy of UT (Unreal Tournament). I insalled it and had a load of fun. Then as will happen the CD fell into the hands of my 5 year old son. Needless to say it did not survive the encounter. Being used to this I had made a backup copy of said CD. But it does not run. Well I then went over to the fine folks at www.megagames.com and did a end run around the copy protection. This is an example of a tool that lets me get fair use from the product I purchased the I think is legal in the context that I used it and the would be illegal under the DMCA. What do you all think?
It may be that the kid can not sponser his parents but it is true that the kid is a citizen and in practice they are at that point not going to kick him out unless he either does something illegal or becomes a burden on society. Given what I know of Linus either of these seems unlikely therefore while no he would not become a citizen because of this he would be able to stay in the country until the child decides if she wants to be American or Finnish. In any case that is how they explained it to me when I was talking with them last. Oh the comment about using abbervations was *very* funny.
She is a citizen by default. Unemployed people on welfare have been able to stay because of this. IANAL but my wife is from overseas and I have talked to those wonderful (not) people from the INS more that I care to admit. IMHO if he plays it right yes it could.
This is one of the things they are very usefull for. In particular this makes a very good option for SOHO type setups. I do a bit of side work setting up SOHO types with this. The other thing older boxes are good at is a simple static web server. For example one Dr. I worked for wanted to put a simple static schedule for this office and have a browser front end for it. An old Pentium is doing fine in that role. Print servers using Samba is something else they do quite well.
I think the slowness is due to well /. If it is standing u this well, a Debian story on /. for gawds sake. It will be really fast when it is not getting pounded into the ground
this is in some ways a bigger obstacle to growth than M$ ever was. I think it is about time that someone brought these "peoples" attention to the DOJ. Normally I don't advocate government intervention but in this cause the USPTO created the monster and now either they or the DOJ needs to bring it down. I don't know if it would hold up (IANAL) but the best case I can think of is that this is going to drive prices on something that has become central to the US economy through the roof. Aso really sounds to be like they are trying their best to be a monopoly. I don't really know. Anybody else have any good ideas?
You are right while Card rocks in many ways and most of his books are great. Also I'm from Utah where he has a special place in all our geek hearts. I have to agree that Ender's Game should have been the first and last book with young Ender in it. I think that instead of this I will read Treason again. Although I have yet to click over to the preview and it might change my mind I'm not hopeful.
One word: Procmail. www.procmail.org. Easy cheap and almost no performance cost. Try to do that on NT.
First of all what servers and clients are all the nasty new viri hitting Exchange. Also with procmail it is much easier to filter them out before they get into the hands of users than with Exchange. The more important reason is your people. It is clear from the question that you have admins who know the *nix solutions that you are using and have been using them for some time. Given this fact you will have problems with Exchange because while yes you all could learn it and sooner or later get it up to speed there would be a painful time there during the switch and most likely for some time afterward. Also you would have to get all new hardware (and if they are upgrading the software anyway you could get much more bang for your buck from a *nix solution) and software also from what I have been told by Exchange admins you *will* have problems with anyone not using Outlook like most M$ products it does not play nice with others. So the real question would be would any benefits of a switch (I can't think of any just at the moment) out weigh the obvious problems, downtime, and money (both lost and spent) that it would cause. OTOH if they do switch and you need to get rid of the Sun boxen send me a email :)
I wrote "In other words the Debian example is perfect the decisions aobut how to code are still going to made at the same level they have always been made in almost every software project ever. By the coder." I pretty sure this clearly states that I do understand that the decisions about how to implement something is in fact made by the coder(s) usually one or two people with complete control that really is the only way to do it it is a creative process after all. And then you are right all of the big decisions are made by voting. This is what I said. The decision to include say for a random example, xfstt, is made in a democratic matter and then, because it is really the only way it can be done, the decisions about how to implement xfstt are made by you the maintainer. Now you say you could fork it for Debian if you wanted to. I'm sure you could. I'm also sure if you don't have a very good reason that can be explained to alot of other people you would find your CVS rights gone. I could be wrong on this please educate me if I am. I think if you reread my post and enage the sacrasm filter you will find that we agree. Debian works because the decisions about what to do. Include package x, y, and z etc etc are made by a vote. Then the decision about how to implement those decisions are made by the coders who in the end are responsible to the people who have made the decision about what to do. The great thing about democracy is that when you are one of the people who makes the decisions about what to do you are going to want to really try and make it work.
This is kind of OT but would someone please tell me how the above is a troll? I never really bought into the moderators on crack theory before but I'm starting to get think maybe there is something to it now.
I don't doubt that it is there. I'm making fun of the monkey who wrote the article he heard encoding wrote encryption. (This is what I think he did at least) Life is just not worth living when you have to explain the joke.
You mean encoding!=encryption. Say it ain't so.
In particular since last I looked (about a week ago) there where *no* mobos yet. Are there any yet? Tell your *friend* to have fun.
just took a jobe with these monkeys he did it mainly for stock options. I'm thinking he made a error. This is *very* silly. You are building your entire business model around high end servers and in fact it is becoming very common to put SMP machines on desktops and then no SMP support and at the same time AMD is coming up with some very sweet chips with SMP support. Can you say bye-bye? Very good Intel I knew you could. BTW check out the Linux Journal article this month on the Duron. Very cool stuff.
I assume that you are talking about the recent election here in America. But the thing you forget is that America!=democracy America==republic. Simple fact the system is working exactly as it was designed it was just not designed to do what many people thought it was designed to do. Nothing to see here move along.
Nope I'm not wrong. Think about it the fine folks at Debian take packages (many of them have written those same packages) and integrate it into a OS (the kernel tools and over 3k packages last I looked, along with an installer and a *sweet* package system) How is this so different from what these people are talking about. The Debian folks decide on features that they want to include (what packages are installed by default, what packages are ported, how things are set up by default, how they want the installer to work, package management stuff) and then they decide how this should all be done when it is done etc. Sounds like what most managers at software companies do to me. Simple fact coding is best done by one person or at most very small groups. It is then up to another group on how to put all the little parts together and make them work. Much like well Debian. They take a bunch of little bits that where written by other people. Think about it how sexy are install disks or a partition program and yet somehow it all gets done and done well. The simple fact is these are craftsmen (people, women, beings) they do the boring stuff because it needs to be done to make the sexy stuff work. In other words the Debian example is perfect the decisions aobut how to code are still going to made at the same level they have always been made in almost every software project ever. By the coder. The decisions about what to code, which in the end boil down to what features you want to include and making all of the little bits work together will be being made in the same way Debian makes those same decisions.
You are 100 percent right democratic software development can not happen. I'm feeling kind of sad that I'm going to have to go tell my Debian servers that they don't exist and that I'm going to have to tell my Debian box at home (That I just got x 4.0 to work on) that it can't exist in the real world either. Mainly because you are right no one will do the boring stuff and it just can't happen because of course democracy==communism. Yup that was a very smart comment sir. Thank you for showing me the way.
I've read some about Python maybe when I have time to learn a language to have fun with that looks cool. No the primary reason I'm learning Perl is becuase I'm and admin with Linux, *BSD, Irix, and Sun boxen that I need to be able to write quick little scripts to do the admin stuff I have to do. (I'm a quite junior admin btw) Perl seems to be the way to do this because I can count on it being on all of the boxen. Kind of like the same theory behind learning Vi yup it may not be as good as Emacs IMHO. But it is always there.
and now I'm going to go into the corner and cry or maybe laugh I just don't know. In truth this is pretty cool because while you can write really good code with Perl you can also produce well this stuff. Now I'm just looking forward to the day when I can read these programs. BTW ,and yes this is on topic if you think about it, how many others would like to see a O'Reilly slashbox. I know I would.
Scour, from the little that I used it, had a much wider amount of material than Napster (Go OpenNap) to include of course the "clipart" (for purposes of this post clipart==pron) It also had a bunch of pictures of people you don't know and most likely don't want to know mpegs that where both legal, semi-legal, and not so legal (My copy of the Crazy video very clearly falls into the last, trailers that I think the studios would rather you have to go to their site to get would be in the second, and the various bits of clipart featuring Kobe Tai are clearly in the first. As I understand it from a article that I read yesterday they mostly went down because the VC would not give them money because of the suits pending due to the not legal content but there was a *lot* of stuff. The only downside was it always seemed slower then napster. Oh well at least we still have opennap now they just need to expand so they can have clipart also.
Oh I had not thought of David Drake but yes he could do a very good job. Also I just thought Jerry Pournelle would also be really good. Ok here is my, worthless, proposal. Neal tells us how the AIs came into being and why they hate humans then David Drake, Robert Jordan, and Jerry Pournelle each gives us one book during the war. Have not read the other author mentioned I should look him up. That would be very cool