- paying with cash
- requesting information
- taking pictures
- use of "anti-government slogans"
- traveling "illogical" distances or requesting home delivery
- "Significantly alter[ing] appearance from visit to visit (shaving beard,
changing hair color, style of dress, etc)" No, seriously. Shaving is to be considered suspicious...
- missing appendages
- reluctant to provide complete personal information(hmmm, didn't know submission to interrogation was compulsory when shopping)
... and here are a few 'location specific' activities that I just couldn't resist listing:
Tattoo Shops:
- People or Groups Who:
-- Make repeated returns with multiple individuals requesting identical
tattoos
-- Inquire about unusual methods of tattooing or placement of tattoos
which could allow the concealment of extremist symbols ('cause, you know, most employers these days are totally cool with neck tats...)
Electronic Stores:
- asking questions about:
-- Radio frequencies (used/not used) by law enforcement
-- VoIP
-- Use of anonymizers, portals, or other means to shield IP address
-- Products/components related to "military-style" equipment
- purchasing "unusual combinations of:"
Electronic timer or timing devices, Phone or “bug” detection devices, 2-way radios, Batteries, GPS, Switches, Digital Voice Changers, Wire and soldering tools, Infra-Red Devices, Night Vision, Police scanners (wait; you can still buy those retail???), Flashlight Bulbs
Storage Facilities (i.e. 'U Stor It' type places):
- Using cash to pay rental fees in advance
- Failing to pay rent for a storage unit in a timely manner (yes, you're reading that right; paying in advance and paying late are both considered 'suspicious')
- Inquiring about security and surveillance equipment utilized at the storage facility (as we all know, only terrorists would be concerned about the security of their possessions)
Hobby Shops:
- Demonstrating "unusual interest" in remote-controlled aircraft
- Demonstrating interest that does not seem genuine (sounds like every teenager I've ever met)
Financial Institutions I won't get into, but suffice to say we should probably report Goldman Sachs, BoA, and many others since they totally fit the profile according to the FBI...
Martial Arts and Paintball:
- Interest in learning offensive moves in a confined space
- Interest in learning the use of hidden weapons
- Interest in learning kill and restraint techniques with no occupational need (who has an 'occupational need' to learn techniques for killing people??)
- Individuals who together are interested in learning group tactics
- Incorporating close combat or hand-to-hand fighting into training (yea, self-defense is for terrorists!)
- Operating a private facility that’s not available or advertised to the public
So, in summation, all Americans, from the top to the bottom, are potential terrorists. Nice to know our 'of the People, for the People' government thinks so highly of us...
That's because violence will eventually become part of the kids' lives, while sex shouldn't.
Oh crap, is it the other way around?
Little of both, actually; someday those kids will grow up to be TSA agents, so we might as well start encouraging violent sexual assault at as early an age as possible.
I guess I'm sort of stumped at the "business opportunity" offered here. At a guess, Z and 499 other shareholders are going to come out of this with a wad of cash and everyone else will be holding a deflated balloon in a few years....
Perhaps a better question to ask yourself is: what's wrong with ME when I apply the statistically insignificant actions of one person (again, one in seven billion, that means he represents 0.0000000000143% of the population) to an entire generation?
Well, gee, Wally, when you put it that way, I guess what's "wrong" with me is that I'm human, and thus prone to sensationalism and statistical error. We all can't be infallible machines that happen to be immune to social norms like you seem to think yourself.
For the record, I hail from an area in which, 20-30 years ago, kids brought guns to school daily and no one (who wasn't a rabbit or squirrel) ever got shot. Of course, back then we didn't get into fisticuffs arguing about whether we were looking at the front or the back of an animal, we just shot the damn thing, skinned it, and threw it in the stew.
Beating someone up for money is one thing; murdering them because you lost a game of Halo, or you're too lazy to find your own Chaos Talisman, is an entirely different situation.
I lost plenty of games of Tekken back in the day, but not once did I even consider bleeding the other guy for beating me.
"The penis you are using is not registered as an authorized device in our database; in order to preserve our intellectual property rights, it will now be confiscated and destroyed."
As someone who has worked in the adult "novelty" industry, I can say with confidence that sex is one area of human interaction in which the Uncanny Valley does not exist.
Seriously, humans will hump damn near anything if you make it squishy enough... filthy beasts.
Never mind that, there's got to be something illegal about threatening someone with a knife.
True that.
The real story here: how fucked up is the world that kids are threatening to shiv each other over goddamn digital trinkets? What's next, kids killing each other over Xbox games?
The more idiot bosses/execs that get nailed doing this, the less (theoretically) there will be when all is said and done.
Except, considering the attitudes of pretty much everyone in middle-to-upper management, they will just throw the nearest IT person to the wolves and absolve themselves of any responsibility for their actions.
Been to that rodeo, rode that bronco, got the t-shirt.
I could mess up soldering a 0 gauge wire to a car battery terminal, but I should be free to do so and waste my own funds doing it!
Their business, their decision. Don't like it? Fine; design, manufacture, and market your own credit card sized PC kit, and/or don't purchase any Raspberry Pi products.
I swear, with all the real oppression going on in today's world, it's astounding the nonsense people come up with to bellyache about in the name of "freedom."
For the record, I'm not the one making up stats, flipping out over the mere concept of a cross-platform installer, and blowing a coronary because of a comment someone made on the internet.
Anybody who can figure out how to download, install, and use a P2P client like bittorrent will already know what OS they're running (and henceforth which installer to use).
S'not my point. My point was that folks like OP are not omniscient, and thus should hop down off their pedestals and try educating others, instead of insulting them.
Are people so dumb now they can't pick from three or four installers the one appropriate to their system?!
No; it's just that you've made the same ignorant mistake that many folks here on/. seem to: assuming that the majority of internet users are technically educated.
FYI, it's not 1993 anymore; thanks to commercialization and social networking, everyone from your mailman to your granny are accessing the internet these days. Many internet users are specialized in non technical fields, such as nursing or architecture. Your statement is akin to a doctor saying, "If you're too dumb to perform gastrointestinal surgery on yourself, why should I bother doing it for you?"
Yes, there are many, many people online these days who have little to no idea how the internet works, outside the knowledge that typing "www.google.com" will take them to Google's search page. Maybe if you tried educating the noobs, instead of responding to their ignorance with your own, you wouldn't find them so loathsome.
But, will it have games geared for people OVER 5 years old?
Games for people over 5 are called school and career, where winning and losing have a deeper meaning and there are few second chances.
From the ESA report: Around 68% of U.S. households now play computer or video games and it's not just the youngsters in the family that are doing so. While the average age of a gamer is 35, over a quarter (26%) is age 50 or over. The bulk of gamers are in the 18 to 49 year age range.
Dammit, how dare I challenge your preconceived notions with abhorrent facts! What a cad I am!
Not everyone on/. is a coder by trade, you know. Some of us are self-taught hobbyists who work in other fields, but enjoy writing apps, building robotic overlords, et. al. in our spare time.
who claims he can build a functional moon base in 8 years
Not to agree with the people concerned, but I'd say that that was possible assuming (hah!) that the
right funding was provided
Never happen I know, but its still possible.
Actually, in this case I only find it ridiculous considering the source.
If we were to, say, roll NASA in with the DoD, I could see the moonbase as a plausible scenario; besides, if SpaceX thinks they can put a probe on Mars for less than $500,000,000, the idea of building a functional moon colony with the DoD budget isn't that far fetched.
Yea... for a billion-dollar software conglomerate, writing different code for different platforms is no big deal, since they have the resources to do so.
For the indie guys like me, who write apps now and again to supplement the pittance we receive from our corporate day jobs (and are lucky to know even one programming language, let alone three), it's a real pain in the ass.
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Apparently there's a whole list of "potential indicators of terrorist related activities," broken down by "threat area:"
... and here are a few 'location specific' activities that I just couldn't resist listing:
http://publicintelligence.net/fbi-suspicious-activity-reporting-flyers/
Among the most prominent:
- paying with cash
- requesting information
- taking pictures
- use of "anti-government slogans"
- traveling "illogical" distances or requesting home delivery
- "Significantly alter[ing] appearance from visit to visit (shaving beard, changing hair color, style of dress, etc)" No, seriously. Shaving is to be considered suspicious...
- missing appendages
- reluctant to provide complete personal information(hmmm, didn't know submission to interrogation was compulsory when shopping)
Tattoo Shops:
- People or Groups Who:
-- Make repeated returns with multiple individuals requesting identical tattoos
-- Inquire about unusual methods of tattooing or placement of tattoos which could allow the concealment of extremist symbols ('cause, you know, most employers these days are totally cool with neck tats...)
Electronic Stores:
- asking questions about:
-- Radio frequencies (used/not used) by law enforcement
-- VoIP
-- Use of anonymizers, portals, or other means to shield IP address
-- Products/components related to "military-style" equipment
- purchasing "unusual combinations of:"
Electronic timer or timing devices, Phone or “bug” detection devices, 2-way radios, Batteries, GPS, Switches, Digital Voice Changers, Wire and soldering tools, Infra-Red Devices, Night Vision, Police scanners (wait; you can still buy those retail???), Flashlight Bulbs
Storage Facilities (i.e. 'U Stor It' type places):
- Using cash to pay rental fees in advance
- Failing to pay rent for a storage unit in a timely manner (yes, you're reading that right; paying in advance and paying late are both considered 'suspicious')
- Inquiring about security and surveillance equipment utilized at the storage facility (as we all know, only terrorists would be concerned about the security of their possessions)
Hobby Shops:
- Demonstrating "unusual interest" in remote-controlled aircraft
- Demonstrating interest that does not seem genuine (sounds like every teenager I've ever met)
Financial Institutions I won't get into, but suffice to say we should probably report Goldman Sachs, BoA, and many others since they totally fit the profile according to the FBI...
Martial Arts and Paintball:
- Interest in learning offensive moves in a confined space
- Interest in learning the use of hidden weapons
- Interest in learning kill and restraint techniques with no occupational need (who has an 'occupational need' to learn techniques for killing people??)
- Individuals who together are interested in learning group tactics
- Incorporating close combat or hand-to-hand fighting into training (yea, self-defense is for terrorists!)
- Operating a private facility that’s not available or advertised to the public
So, in summation, all Americans, from the top to the bottom, are potential terrorists. Nice to know our 'of the People, for the People' government thinks so highly of us...
That's because violence will eventually become part of the kids' lives, while sex shouldn't.
Oh crap, is it the other way around?
Little of both, actually; someday those kids will grow up to be TSA agents, so we might as well start encouraging violent sexual assault at as early an age as possible.
"Release early, release often" is intended for testers and bleeding-edge users, not end users who just want a stable product.
Pretty sure that was also John Holmes' personal philosophy.
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here 'til Thursday.
I guess I'm sort of stumped at the "business opportunity" offered here. At a guess, Z and 499 other shareholders are going to come out of this with a wad of cash and everyone else will be holding a deflated balloon in a few years....
Well, you see, according to the largest private bank in the world, Goldman Sachs, that's precisely how Wall Street is 'supposed' to work.
Your logic and reasoning abilities have no place amongst the powers that be.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm against any individual or group blaming video games for violence.
Agreed.
Perhaps a better question to ask yourself is: what's wrong with ME when I apply the statistically insignificant actions of one person (again, one in seven billion, that means he represents 0.0000000000143% of the population) to an entire generation?
Well, gee, Wally, when you put it that way, I guess what's "wrong" with me is that I'm human, and thus prone to sensationalism and statistical error. We all can't be infallible machines that happen to be immune to social norms like you seem to think yourself.
For the record, I hail from an area in which, 20-30 years ago, kids brought guns to school daily and no one (who wasn't a rabbit or squirrel) ever got shot. Of course, back then we didn't get into fisticuffs arguing about whether we were looking at the front or the back of an animal, we just shot the damn thing, skinned it, and threw it in the stew.
Beating someone up for money is one thing; murdering them because you lost a game of Halo, or you're too lazy to find your own Chaos Talisman, is an entirely different situation.
I lost plenty of games of Tekken back in the day, but not once did I even consider bleeding the other guy for beating me.
"The penis you are using is not registered as an authorized device in our database; in order to preserve our intellectual property rights, it will now be confiscated and destroyed."
As someone who has worked in the adult "novelty" industry, I can say with confidence that sex is one area of human interaction in which the Uncanny Valley does not exist.
Seriously, humans will hump damn near anything if you make it squishy enough... filthy beasts.
Never mind that, there's got to be something illegal about threatening someone with a knife.
True that.
The real story here: how fucked up is the world that kids are threatening to shiv each other over goddamn digital trinkets? What's next, kids killing each other over Xbox games?
... Aw, fuck.
The more idiot bosses/execs that get nailed doing this, the less (theoretically) there will be when all is said and done.
Except, considering the attitudes of pretty much everyone in middle-to-upper management, they will just throw the nearest IT person to the wolves and absolve themselves of any responsibility for their actions.
Been to that rodeo, rode that bronco, got the t-shirt.
I could mess up soldering a 0 gauge wire to a car battery terminal, but I should be free to do so and waste my own funds doing it!
Their business, their decision. Don't like it? Fine; design, manufacture, and market your own credit card sized PC kit, and/or don't purchase any Raspberry Pi products.
I swear, with all the real oppression going on in today's world, it's astounding the nonsense people come up with to bellyache about in the name of "freedom."
For the record, I'm not the one making up stats, flipping out over the mere concept of a cross-platform installer, and blowing a coronary because of a comment someone made on the internet.
I recommend meditation.
Would be the part I would consider less than flattering.
Latest news, after the fast food war, Taco bell becomes a ISP. Buys up AT&T.
Only to be absorbed in a hostile takeover by the Brawndo Corporation.
Brawndo - it's got what plant crave - It's got ELECTROLYTES!!!
Gastrointestinal surgery is a way too specific example in your metaphor.
S'not a metaphor.
Anybody who can figure out how to download, install, and use a P2P client like bittorrent will already know what OS they're running (and henceforth which installer to use).
S'not my point. My point was that folks like OP are not omniscient, and thus should hop down off their pedestals and try educating others, instead of insulting them.
To give an analogy, it's like driving a car on the road with no supervision even though you have no idea how to drive a car.
Except the fact that it's nigh impossible for the untrained to kill other people with a computer. So, less an analogy and more a non sequitur.
I do agree with your point regarding user education, poor analogy aside.
Are people so dumb now they can't pick from three or four installers the one appropriate to their system?!
No; it's just that you've made the same ignorant mistake that many folks here on /. seem to: assuming that the majority of internet users are technically educated.
FYI, it's not 1993 anymore; thanks to commercialization and social networking, everyone from your mailman to your granny are accessing the internet these days. Many internet users are specialized in non technical fields, such as nursing or architecture. Your statement is akin to a doctor saying, "If you're too dumb to perform gastrointestinal surgery on yourself, why should I bother doing it for you?"
Yes, there are many, many people online these days who have little to no idea how the internet works, outside the knowledge that typing "www.google.com" will take them to Google's search page. Maybe if you tried educating the noobs, instead of responding to their ignorance with your own, you wouldn't find them so loathsome.
Just my 2 pennies.
Isn't this something our fabulous leaders should of demanded before spending a crap load of money and deploying them all around the nation?
Nah, that would require foresight, a quality visibly lacking from our reactive society.
Yea, I hate that too.
The silver lining, however, is that with enough perseverance and knowhow, one can get the "premium" features at the budget price.
Aah, planned obsolescence; she is a bitch, no?
But, will it have games geared for people OVER 5 years old?
Games for people over 5 are called school and career, where winning and losing have a deeper meaning and there are few second chances.
From the ESA report:
Around 68% of U.S. households now play computer or video games and it's not just the youngsters in the family that are doing so. While the average age of a gamer is 35, over a quarter (26%) is age 50 or over. The bulk of gamers are in the 18 to 49 year age range.
Dammit, how dare I challenge your preconceived notions with abhorrent facts! What a cad I am!
Not everyone on /. is a coder by trade, you know. Some of us are self-taught hobbyists who work in other fields, but enjoy writing apps, building robotic overlords, et. al. in our spare time.
who claims he can build a functional moon base in 8 years
Not to agree with the people concerned, but I'd say that that was possible assuming (hah!) that the right funding was provided
Never happen I know, but its still possible.
Actually, in this case I only find it ridiculous considering the source.
If we were to, say, roll NASA in with the DoD, I could see the moonbase as a plausible scenario; besides, if SpaceX thinks they can put a probe on Mars for less than $500,000,000, the idea of building a functional moon colony with the DoD budget isn't that far fetched.
Yea... for a billion-dollar software conglomerate, writing different code for different platforms is no big deal, since they have the resources to do so.
For the indie guys like me, who write apps now and again to supplement the pittance we receive from our corporate day jobs (and are lucky to know even one programming language, let alone three), it's a real pain in the ass.
But then, I guess that's the definition of YMMV.