If you want to argue this angle, you need to point to a _state_ law proclaiming that private institutions cannot take action based on someone's speech. The Federal amendment you are thinking of says "Congress shall make no law..." A private institution can do what it likes about the speech of its members (absent a contractual obligation to do otherwise).
Sorry, I don't agree. What if the institution decides to discriminate access according to whatever whimsical attribute it deems appropriate (sex, politics, race, belief, whatever...)? You let them go happily along? My house is private property, not a privately held institution; what if a shopkeeper or a cinema put a sign reading: "no Jews, Black, Homo allowed"? One can be a racist prick on his own property, but not when it's open for the public consumption.
Meh, but initially they suspended him for a frickin year! Didn't you read the summary or are you just trolling me along? Ok go ahead, just do or think as you please man, you're a sect's wet dream... this exchange is over
As I said, a gray area... no community has the right to impose conditions that conflict with the law. Any community is hosted in a State whose laws and principles cannot be derogated, period. Eg. Waco communities where the self proclaimed god-on-earth leader imposes the privilege to rape members at will are usually dealt with pretty quickly don't you agree?
Hmm, isn't free speech a human right? How can anyone legally violate such a thing? I'm pretty sure there can't exist any private agreement that somehow overrides a state law; eg. no institution can make you sight a paper whereby they reserve the right to execute you on the spot for violating some internal code, can't they (ok, I'm going severely overboard but you got the gist)
In this incident free speech was restricted in the sense that the man got retribution for having exercised this right. On the other hand, had he identified the offending professor, he could be sued for libel/slander by the object of his statements; in this case, given the vagueness of them, there's no case unless the administration, feeling the institution's reputation was damaged, procede against the man in a state court.
It's a gray area, private educational institutions (I'm thinking of confessional schools) in a sense act as if they ARE the supreme authority and as such impose an arbitrary code, based on some internal moral and ethic. People often accept this as fact and imply that by entering such system you accept having your rights restricted. No, the ultimate authority is the State and compliance to its rules is required, always (what if the school discriminated on gender, exercised corporal punishment, etc...) So even if someone violated an internal code that doesn't constitute something the State defines as a "violation" there's nothing that can be done.
The guy could sue them into the ground if he wanted and I wouldn't object a single bit about it
Hmm, you just can't give these guys some credit can't you? It wasn't the nazis, the Soviet assassins killed all their people during WWII. To do what, blame the nazis? Oh, come on...
Italy too has something similar: Carabinieri (in english "rifle-ers"?). They are a military corp, some of them are deployed in Iraq, but they share law enforcement with the ordinary Police (composed of civil personnel... used to be military until the '60) and the Guardia di Finanza (specialized in financial crime). In the past the Carabinieri were the direct emanation of royal authority and were extensively involved in wresting territorial control of southern Italy in the late '800, following our unification. Together with the Police some have smeared the uniform during the Genova 2001 G8 Summit, unjustifiably beating protesters, killing one, arresting and beating others that were concentrated in the Bolzaneto barracks. Hmm, this is Italy folks, a _cheap_ rerun of Chile/Argentina...
Hey, hey stop right there. Yours is a clumsy straw man attempt and there's no fair reason to switch to ad hominem once the poor fellow took the bait. Please show good proof regarding allopmp3's involvement with russian mafia or just shut the fuck up; you might as well claim they're saddam or al quaeda members, paedophiles or good 'ol communists. Bah, troll... a cheap one too!
So they're more or less admitting "essentially... windows is one big binary..." Woah! Low level libraries and frameworks depending on stuff that's higher level, "in the past we've relied on... lockstep... development process..." and "we're now looking at dependencies in the 6 digits range..." Man, these guys are giving one hell of a bashing to the Microsoft codebase.
One guy starts talking about modularity and inserting features and plugins into essential services... and I thought objC. But before that another one gets all hot (I chuckled, this guy is a True Nerd, he really likes fiddling with code... congrats) about semicoop multitask where an app renices itself to 100% resource hog tier for a limited time slot (nice try, but what when all the silly apps do the same trick?), but before that there's a talk about usermode ukernel services... I thought about when I used to renice X11R6 to get better performance (when the graph card module was part of the X process).
I think Bill needs to pull out of tech and sell Microsoft to Apple. These techs are good guys, all they need is a solid process and some decent vision.
Jobs, are you reading this? Watch this video, it'll make you feel good!:-) e
Yeah, nobody ever got fired by buying intel (or IBM back in the day, or M$...) Business, innovation? Naah... (and AMD isn't exactly innovative, it's just the underdog... performance not withstanding)
Right, but firewall builder is the tool you're looking for in this case. The question here is wether it's ok to spend thousands of dollars for a set of wizards; that's all the value add there is in the "commercial" solution. An admin that can't grok fwbuilder needs some serious training and even that would be cheaper than throwing all that money in the wind...
Getting an OpenBSD box up, configuring the routing and firewall can be learned, perhaps even in a week, but that assumes someone with a pretty damn good low level understanding of networks and protocols. You or I might do this, but it's at the opposite end of the spectrum from Windows/Symantec Firewall.
True, but honestly noone without a good understanding of network protocols should be let near such a firewall configuration. There seems to be this misconception that with the aid of computers a child can run a nuclear power plant... hmm, isn't this wrong? A photographer may not care about network functions but it'll want a program that provides the tooling to edit photos in such a way that only a pro can fathom, not just Picasa. Put a network engineer in it's seat and there will be a difference in the final picture, put a photographer at the firewall console and the result won't match what a network engineer can do with a complete tool rather than with some "network picasa"
I disagree. Synthesis of a solution is a synonym for design and it's what engineering is all about. There are many solutions to a problem, the engineer's job is to find one that is optimal. Requirements define the optimality while available technology provides the possible avenues and engineering is all about creating the latter that satisfies the former. When a design feels ass backwards (aka "an engineer must have done it!") it's either poor requirements or bad engineering. Function is Form, if it doesn't it's not an effective Function (some aspect of its requirements remained unimplemented). Properly engineered airports are good designs when they maximise usability, safety, flow, etc... bad, gimmicky stuff feels wrong no matter how much "style" you put into it.
You might be interested in the Eclipse RCP developing environment. It's Java based so it will run just about anywhere, it's heavily OO design patterned so there's quite a bit of API to chew but it has a nice GUI editor. I'd give it a bite...
Yeah sorry, it's late over here in Italy and I might have expressed myself badly. Anyhow, here it goes: the Shuttle design is peculiar as the craft is strapped onto the side of the fuel tank, exposing it's underside (make of delicate ceramic tiles) to whatever debris shed during flight; in other designs the heat shield is protected during ascent since it's sandwiched within the reentry module and other parts of the final spacecraft. All other manned crafts place the crew on top of the launcher so in case of failure it can be "safely" jettisoned while this can't be done with the Shuttle. Essentially it fails to account for the two most dangerous scenarios: launch and reentry systems failure. The record of the Shuttle program isn't exactly rosy and that there haven't been other disasters is both a matter of luck and a testament to NASA maniacal procedures and quality controls.
the core concept is that the whole design of the shuttle is intrinsically wrong. Former soviet launchers have an exceptionally good flight record and I guess they don't employ bleeding edge technology; it's the design that's so much better. It all boils down to the old engineering principle that machines have to be good enough to get the job done and at the same time simple enough to test them thoroughly and avoid unnecessary workarounds. Initial vehicles had the crew sitting on top of the explosive pile, strapped to an escape rocket in case shit happened; the shuttle is piggybacked to the firework and has no means of getting the crew away from it; anything that's shed from the vehicle can hit the delicate fuselage while Apollo's had the heat shield covered until reentry. The Shuttle isn't old, it's always been a lame duck.
pure bull, this Napster guy should sell napkins. iPods play standard mp3 and aac (drm'd and not); iTunes encodes to mp3 as well as aac and guess what, it may be patented from top to bottom (just as mp3) but it's a completely disclosed format just as mp3 is. I bought an Nokia 6630, it's a neat mainstream smartphone, has a decent PIM setup, and a convenient rs-mmc expansion door; guess what... it won't play Fairplay drm'd aac but plain vanilla aac work a charm. I could actually use iTunes to legally rip anything to aac and play it on my cellphone and Apple or Nokia wouldn't see a dime from me, only the Fraunhofer Institute that owns all the patents and sells the format to the marketplace. I'm ok with corps making products, bundling functionality and selling me a package that appeals to me for the added value of interoperability amongst them; it benefits me for the added convenience and them for the sale they won...
You're saying that J2EE wraps dbms functionality making it possible to map database and application boundary crossing to the java server tier. Business components (possibly originating from different vendors and integrated by yet another one) that collaborate at the J2EE layer can (theoretically) swap underlying dbms rather than force the entire system to a single one, had they relied on vendor specific features. Your statement about db duplication is correct and nobody should do without standard SQL functionality but, please note, I was half-joking when I mentioned flat files. So essentially we both agree that J2EE is a tough beast that takes the stranglehold away from Oracle; this is a Good Thing, look what happened to the Microsoft Windows and Office platform. I like the screwdriver analogy myself and take great pleasure at mentioning it whenever I can but I don't think it's appropriate this time (speaking of which, I prefer "driving a screw with a hammer", it suggests a more clueless-savage tone to the picture).
I don't think there is any. Personally I think J2EE is a bloated, over-complicated heap but for Sun it makes sense to have it. It makes it possible to transfer all the business rules away from the dbms and into the java server domain, thus making all the stored procedures, trigger, dbms specific pl languages redundant (or the other way around, it's J2EE that's redundant). Taken to all the possible extent you can dump the db in a bunch of flat files; ok, that's bull, but really, with J2EE you pry your balls out of Oracle's greedy hands. If you take it from this perspective, J2EE is not bad at all; for Sun it levels the power struggle with Oracle and for you, it gives the option to build your business on a freer platform
I believe those are pilot flames whose purpose is to burn any eventual leakage gas before is accumulates preventing massive explosions or buildups that could asphyxiate local residents or to reduce the environmental impact of waste gasses by turning them to carbon dioxide.
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If you want to argue this angle, you need to point to a _state_ law proclaiming that private institutions cannot take action based on someone's speech. The Federal amendment you are thinking of says "Congress shall make no law..." A private institution can do what it likes about the speech of its members (absent a contractual obligation to do otherwise).
Sorry, I don't agree. What if the institution decides to discriminate access according to whatever whimsical attribute it deems appropriate (sex, politics, race, belief, whatever...)? You let them go happily along?
My house is private property, not a privately held institution; what if a shopkeeper or a cinema put a sign reading: "no Jews, Black, Homo allowed"? One can be a racist prick on his own property, but not when it's open for the public consumption.
Meh, but initially they suspended him for a frickin year! Didn't you read the summary or are you just trolling me along? Ok go ahead, just do or think as you please man, you're a sect's wet dream... this exchange is over
As I said, a gray area... no community has the right to impose conditions that conflict with the law. Any community is hosted in a State whose laws and principles cannot be derogated, period. Eg. Waco communities where the self proclaimed god-on-earth leader imposes the privilege to rape members at will are usually dealt with pretty quickly don't you agree?
Hmm, isn't free speech a human right? How can anyone legally violate such a thing? I'm pretty sure there can't exist any private agreement that somehow overrides a state law; eg. no institution can make you sight a paper whereby they reserve the right to execute you on the spot for violating some internal code, can't they (ok, I'm going severely overboard but you got the gist)
In this incident free speech was restricted in the sense that the man got retribution for having exercised this right. On the other hand, had he identified the offending professor, he could be sued for libel/slander by the object of his statements; in this case, given the vagueness of them, there's no case unless the administration, feeling the institution's reputation was damaged, procede against the man in a state court.
It's a gray area, private educational institutions (I'm thinking of confessional schools) in a sense act as if they ARE the supreme authority and as such impose an arbitrary code, based on some internal moral and ethic. People often accept this as fact and imply that by entering such system you accept having your rights restricted. No, the ultimate authority is the State and compliance to its rules is required, always (what if the school discriminated on gender, exercised corporal punishment, etc...) So even if someone violated an internal code that doesn't constitute something the State defines as a "violation" there's nothing that can be done.
The guy could sue them into the ground if he wanted and I wouldn't object a single bit about it
No boy, you brought up the argument, it's your job to back it up. WP is good enough reference to explain the definitions I linked...
Hmm, you just can't give these guys some credit can't you? It wasn't the nazis, the Soviet assassins killed all their people during WWII. To do what, blame the nazis? Oh, come on...
Italy too has something similar: Carabinieri (in english "rifle-ers"?). They are a military corp, some of them are deployed in Iraq, but they share law enforcement with the ordinary Police (composed of civil personnel... used to be military until the '60) and the Guardia di Finanza (specialized in financial crime). In the past the Carabinieri were the direct emanation of royal authority and were extensively involved in wresting territorial control of southern Italy in the late '800, following our unification. Together with the Police some have smeared the uniform during the Genova 2001 G8 Summit, unjustifiably beating protesters, killing one, arresting and beating others that were concentrated in the Bolzaneto barracks. Hmm, this is Italy folks, a _cheap_ rerun of Chile/Argentina...
Hey, hey stop right there. Yours is a clumsy straw man attempt and there's no fair reason to switch to ad hominem once the poor fellow took the bait. Please show good proof regarding allopmp3's involvement with russian mafia or just shut the fuck up; you might as well claim they're saddam or al quaeda members, paedophiles or good 'ol communists. Bah, troll... a cheap one too!
It is entertaining though, I've written a comment about it...
nitpick... ;-)
So they're more or less admitting "essentially ... windows is one big binary..." Woah! Low level libraries and frameworks depending on stuff that's higher level, "in the past we've relied on... lockstep... development process..." and "we're now looking at dependencies in the 6 digits range..." Man, these guys are giving one hell of a bashing to the Microsoft codebase.
:-)
One guy starts talking about modularity and inserting features and plugins into essential services... and I thought objC. But before that another one gets all hot (I chuckled, this guy is a True Nerd, he really likes fiddling with code... congrats) about semicoop multitask where an app renices itself to 100% resource hog tier for a limited time slot (nice try, but what when all the silly apps do the same trick?), but before that there's a talk about usermode ukernel services... I thought about when I used to renice X11R6 to get better performance (when the graph card module was part of the X process).
I think Bill needs to pull out of tech and sell Microsoft to Apple. These techs are good guys, all they need is a solid process and some decent vision.
Jobs, are you reading this? Watch this video, it'll make you feel good!
e
... thank the gods there are alternatives to Microsoft codecs... Chan9 logo blockiness in the video stream is über lame... long live Quicktime!
Yeah, nobody ever got fired by buying intel (or IBM back in the day, or M$...) Business, innovation? Naah... (and AMD isn't exactly innovative, it's just the underdog... performance not withstanding)
Right, but firewall builder is the tool you're looking for in this case. The question here is wether it's ok to spend thousands of dollars for a set of wizards; that's all the value add there is in the "commercial" solution. An admin that can't grok fwbuilder needs some serious training and even that would be cheaper than throwing all that money in the wind...
Getting an OpenBSD box up, configuring the routing and firewall can be learned, perhaps even in a week, but that assumes someone with a pretty damn good low level understanding of networks and protocols. You or I might do this, but it's at the opposite end of the spectrum from Windows/Symantec Firewall.
True, but honestly noone without a good understanding of network protocols should be let near such a firewall configuration. There seems to be this misconception that with the aid of computers a child can run a nuclear power plant... hmm, isn't this wrong? A photographer may not care about network functions but it'll want a program that provides the tooling to edit photos in such a way that only a pro can fathom, not just Picasa. Put a network engineer in it's seat and there will be a difference in the final picture, put a photographer at the firewall console and the result won't match what a network engineer can do with a complete tool rather than with some "network picasa"I disagree. Synthesis of a solution is a synonym for design and it's what engineering is all about. There are many solutions to a problem, the engineer's job is to find one that is optimal. Requirements define the optimality while available technology provides the possible avenues and engineering is all about creating the latter that satisfies the former. When a design feels ass backwards (aka "an engineer must have done it!") it's either poor requirements or bad engineering. Function is Form, if it doesn't it's not an effective Function (some aspect of its requirements remained unimplemented). Properly engineered airports are good designs when they maximise usability, safety, flow, etc... bad, gimmicky stuff feels wrong no matter how much "style" you put into it.
You might be interested in the Eclipse RCP developing environment. It's Java based so it will run just about anywhere, it's heavily OO design patterned so there's quite a bit of API to chew but it has a nice GUI editor. I'd give it a bite...
but they still can't layout some decent cabling ;-)
Yeah sorry, it's late over here in Italy and I might have expressed myself badly. Anyhow, here it goes: the Shuttle design is peculiar as the craft is strapped onto the side of the fuel tank, exposing it's underside (make of delicate ceramic tiles) to whatever debris shed during flight; in other designs the heat shield is protected during ascent since it's sandwiched within the reentry module and other parts of the final spacecraft. All other manned crafts place the crew on top of the launcher so in case of failure it can be "safely" jettisoned while this can't be done with the Shuttle. Essentially it fails to account for the two most dangerous scenarios: launch and reentry systems failure. The record of the Shuttle program isn't exactly rosy and that there haven't been other disasters is both a matter of luck and a testament to NASA maniacal procedures and quality controls.
the core concept is that the whole design of the shuttle is intrinsically wrong. Former soviet launchers have an exceptionally good flight record and I guess they don't employ bleeding edge technology; it's the design that's so much better. It all boils down to the old engineering principle that machines have to be good enough to get the job done and at the same time simple enough to test them thoroughly and avoid unnecessary workarounds. Initial vehicles had the crew sitting on top of the explosive pile, strapped to an escape rocket in case shit happened; the shuttle is piggybacked to the firework and has no means of getting the crew away from it; anything that's shed from the vehicle can hit the delicate fuselage while Apollo's had the heat shield covered until reentry. The Shuttle isn't old, it's always been a lame duck.
pure bull, this Napster guy should sell napkins. iPods play standard mp3 and aac (drm'd and not); iTunes encodes to mp3 as well as aac and guess what, it may be patented from top to bottom (just as mp3) but it's a completely disclosed format just as mp3 is. I bought an Nokia 6630, it's a neat mainstream smartphone, has a decent PIM setup, and a convenient rs-mmc expansion door; guess what... it won't play Fairplay drm'd aac but plain vanilla aac work a charm. I could actually use iTunes to legally rip anything to aac and play it on my cellphone and Apple or Nokia wouldn't see a dime from me, only the Fraunhofer Institute that owns all the patents and sells the format to the marketplace. I'm ok with corps making products, bundling functionality and selling me a package that appeals to me for the added value of interoperability amongst them; it benefits me for the added convenience and them for the sale they won...
what about switching current? with gates flipping @ GHz frequency it's a still a major problem.
You're saying that J2EE wraps dbms functionality making it possible to map database and application boundary crossing to the java server tier. Business components (possibly originating from different vendors and integrated by yet another one) that collaborate at the J2EE layer can (theoretically) swap underlying dbms rather than force the entire system to a single one, had they relied on vendor specific features. Your statement about db duplication is correct and nobody should do without standard SQL functionality but, please note, I was half-joking when I mentioned flat files. So essentially we both agree that J2EE is a tough beast that takes the stranglehold away from Oracle; this is a Good Thing, look what happened to the Microsoft Windows and Office platform. I like the screwdriver analogy myself and take great pleasure at mentioning it whenever I can but I don't think it's appropriate this time (speaking of which, I prefer "driving a screw with a hammer", it suggests a more clueless-savage tone to the picture).
I don't think there is any. Personally I think J2EE is a bloated, over-complicated heap but for Sun it makes sense to have it. It makes it possible to transfer all the business rules away from the dbms and into the java server domain, thus making all the stored procedures, trigger, dbms specific pl languages redundant (or the other way around, it's J2EE that's redundant). Taken to all the possible extent you can dump the db in a bunch of flat files; ok, that's bull, but really, with J2EE you pry your balls out of Oracle's greedy hands. If you take it from this perspective, J2EE is not bad at all; for Sun it levels the power struggle with Oracle and for you, it gives the option to build your business on a freer platform
I believe those are pilot flames whose purpose is to burn any eventual leakage gas before is accumulates preventing massive explosions or buildups that could asphyxiate local residents or to reduce the environmental impact of waste gasses by turning them to carbon dioxide.