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The Odds at Macworld

Moby Cock writes "Jason O'Grady has posted the odds on what is to be announced at the Macworld Expo beginning next week. Coming in at 100:1 is OS X 10.5 and even money on a new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks. Gentlemen, start your credit cards."

526 comments

  1. X86 Powerbooks by rollonet · · Score: 0

    I'm hoping X86 Powerbooks. But we'll have to wait and see I guess. Intel VIIV looks promising.

    1. Re:X86 Powerbooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      hey, don't forget garbage like me supports them too. bastard.

    2. Re:X86 Powerbooks by Agarax · · Score: 1

      It is so fucking sad that the only people Apple has left supporting them are garbage like you.

      Because we all cant wait to get a Mac Mini where we can wipe OSX and install WinXP!

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  2. The odds? by sczimme · · Score: 4, Funny


    If this guy is there, I would say the "odds" are well represented.

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    1. Re:The odds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like Steve Jobs trying to get into an iChat conference with 'Bertrand' :D

    2. Re:The odds? by LukePieStalker · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't it be "The Pods at Macworld"?

    3. Re:The odds? by John+Harrison · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Once he stated that he thinks there will be a firmware upgarde to the iPod nano to support video I figured he was out to lunch. The 5G iPod has a hardware video decoder. You aren't going to be able to update your nano's software and get the same thing.

    4. Re:The odds? by Millenniumman · · Score: 1

      People have already been able to install Linux on the Nano and play video on it.

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    5. Re:The odds? by JazzCrazed · · Score: 1

      You can still install software to decode video. It's similar to how video cards have a chip for MPEG-2 decoding, but users can install software MPEG-4 codecs to decode (and encode for that matter) XviD, H.264, and the like. It's dependent on the CPU power - which is worth wondering about on the Nano.

    6. Re:The odds? by John+Harrison · · Score: 1

      I was careful to not exclude the possibility of a software decoder but I doubt that you would get the same functionality (formats, frame rate, and battery life) that you get on the iPods with video support.

  3. "start you credit cards" by Pope · · Score: 2, Funny

    OK, pal, sure.

    I predict no 10.5, no Intel machines releases, nothing major. Just a bumped Mini.

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    1. Re:"start you credit cards" by falcon5768 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      considering there is a story just today with a quote by Jobs saying there would be some major releases. I would think your wrong.

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    2. Re:"start you credit cards" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is pointless to use logic around a reality distortion field.

    3. Re:"start you credit cards" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ACHTUNG GRAMMAR NAZI !!!

      You Are = YOU'RE

      You Are != YOUR

      'wrong' in this context is NOT A NOUN. If is not a noun IT BE CANNOT BE POSSESSED.

      Learn, study, and get back to society.
      http://drb.lifestreamcenter.net/Lessons/TS/diagram .htm

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    4. Re:"start you credit cards" by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 1

      I thought that iWork getting a spreadsheet would be the coolest, but the suggestions as to pages i didn't like. It's perfectly fine now, I find it outstanding. Also, iLayout is probably THE lamest software name I've heard in at least five minutes.

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    5. Re:"start you credit cards" by ehrichweiss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      This is OT but I quote your sig...

      "And now for a little taste of that old computer-generated swagger."

      Art of Noise/Max Headroom fan?

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    6. Re:"start you credit cards" by tsa · · Score: 1

      I hope you're wrong. Ever since I became an Apple junky some time last year life has been so exciting for me! I sure wish Steve announces something Intel! That will hopefully increase Apple's market share. A version of Pages that supports equations would also be nice... Ooo, I can't wait 'til jan. 10!

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    7. Re:"start you credit cards" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok then.....

    8. Re:"start you credit cards" by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      What about iSpread? iStrip?

      Would like to see a bundled version of Filemaker. That would be cool.

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    9. Re:"start you credit cards" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If is not a noun...

      LOL! It's a bad day when Tarzan is correcting your grammar!

    10. Re:"start you credit cards" by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      I missed the story link, but--hey--whatever.

      Remember that Steve and the non-RDFed world have differing opinions on what constitutes a "major release." For example, the video-enabled Airport would be considered a "major release." Heck, a new iLife and iWork would be considered a "major release."

    11. Re:"start you credit cards" by tbone1 · · Score: 1
      What about iSpread? iStrip?

      Um, IIRC, MOnica Lowinski has those names copyrighted.

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    12. Re:"start you credit cards" by Thud457 · · Score: 1
      "Apple Computer --

      proudly going out of business for 30 years."

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  4. Nah.... by millerjl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple will announce the release of a 3 button mouse after they realized what a hit they had with their 2 button model...

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    1. Re:Nah.... by iotaborg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Where have you been? The 'Mighty Mouse' has 4 'buttons' already.

    2. Re:Nah.... by dascandy · · Score: 0, Troll

      Where did you learn to count? People count one, two, many.

      They'll publish an N-button mouse in tradition of the transition from one to two button mice, for a meager price of $20 + $20 * N, or $60 for a 3-button mouse or only $240 for a 12-button mouse. The traditional two-button mouse will be priced down from $50 to $40 with the one-button mouse staying at $20.

      Sad thing is, all Mac software assumes one button so those extra buttons will be doing pretty much nothing the next few... decades or so...

    3. Re:Nah.... by gss · · Score: 1

      Sad thing is, all Mac software assumes one button so those extra buttons will be doing pretty much nothing the next few... decades or so... All the buttons on my mulitbutton logitech mouse work great in Macosx.

    4. Re:Nah.... by jdbartlett · · Score: 1

      Isn't that 5 buttons? I haven't tried one out, but I believe the nipple ball also acts as a button?

    5. Re:Nah.... by thinbits · · Score: 1

      No. In the grand Apple tradition of releasing "dual" things, it will be a dual-dual button mouse.

    6. Re:Nah.... by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Sad thing is, all Mac software assumes one button so those extra buttons will be doing pretty much nothing the next few... decades or so...
      *Buzz* Thanks for playing.

      OS X has supported multiple buttons and scroll wheels natively since its very first release, as the OS's event architecture was originally designed to accommodate Next's three-button mouse. Apple continued to develop the multi-button support under OS X despite shipping a single-button mouse. Most OS X applications (Cocoa, Carbon, and even Java) have always automatically taken advantage of the OS-level support for scroll wheels and right-clicking for basic tasks (e.g. copy, cut, paste) without doing anything, plus OS X developers routinely add additional contextual menus and other types of support for modern mice. I don't know a single OS X developer who routinely uses a single button mouse, and I've met a good number of them. On top of that, I believe that the Mighty Mouse's buttons are fully customizable in the System Preferences (not sure on that - I still use an old Logitech mouse on my Mac)

      OS X applications never require a multi-button mouse, but they almost universally support them.
    7. Re:Nah.... by tfreport · · Score: 1

      On top of that, I believe that the Mighty Mouse's buttons are fully customizable in the System Preferences (not sure on that - I still use an old Logitech mouse on my Mac)

      I can confirm that. I believe the default was for the middle click (scroll wheel) to bring in dashboard and the side buttons to take advantage of expose. But I quickly found that because I wanted middle clicks to have the same result as what I was used to in Windows and I found that using the corners of the screen was just as effective for Dashboard. Now I hate using the computers at work.

    8. Re:Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shake, an Apple application, requires a 3 button mouse.

    9. Re:Nah.... by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Been using a logitech usb optical wheel mouse since OSX was released myself as well, no issues... though, also using a pc based keyboard, so the difference with ctrl win and alt from windows (kvm) throws me off much more than the mouse actions...

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    10. Re:Nah.... by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Informative
      Where have you been? The 'Mighty Mouse' has 4 'buttons' already


      In my experience, the 'Mighty Mouse' is difficult to use as a two-button mouse, because if you have a finger resting on the "left-button region" of the mouse, tapping on the "right-button region" gets interpreted as left-clicking rather than right-clicking. In order to successfully do a right-click, you have to remember to lift your finger off of the left-button region first, which is really unintuitive and annoying.


      Have other people noticed this problem also, or am I doing something wrong?

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    11. Re:Nah.... by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 1
      Shake, an Apple application, requires a 3 button mouse.
      Okay, you got me here. There are some programs that require a multi-button mouse. Most high-end 3D programs need one. Shake I'll take your word on since I've never used it. Outside of certain high-end niche markets, the vast, vast majority of (if not all) consumer-oriented Mac software does not require a multi-button mouse. Even most of the 3D software can be used without it, it's just horribly inconvenient to do so.
    12. Re:Nah.... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      "OS X applications never require a multi-button mouse, but they almost universally support them"

      Not to nitpick or start a flame war, but isn't that like how microsoft word doesn't require a keyboard( office ships with voice recognition)? Mac OS is by far the best desktop OS out there and it does support two buttoned mice completely. I just wish they weren't so stubborn about some things.

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    13. Re:Nah.... by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 1
      Not to nitpick or start a flame war, but isn't that like how microsoft word doesn't require a keyboard( office ships with voice recognition)?
      In OS X applications, you can very easily use the control key to simulate right-clicking or usually use a menu item or toolbar item to accomplish the same thing you can with the right-click. It's a tad bit less convenient, and I don't like to do it (hence my Logitech mouse), but that's really nothing like trying to use a word processor without a keyboard - I wouldn't say they are comparable situations at all.

      But I agree that Apple's obstinance on the multi-button mouse issue was annoying.
    14. Re:Nah.... by tsa · · Score: 1

      Yes, but for that money you have the coolest, styliest mouse ever, because it says 'Apple' on the bottom!

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    15. Re:Nah.... by tivoKlr · · Score: 1

      Yes, I've noticed it too, and it sucks... I'm always left clicking things I want to right click. I really wanted to like this mouse, as it is classy looking, but I think it's back to the intellimouse for me.

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    16. Re:Nah.... by Surt · · Score: 1

      Mac hardware always does rip you off, I only payed $39 for my 8 button pc-mouse, not $180.

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    17. Re:Nah.... by jefe7777 · · Score: 1

      I've also used a wheel mouse with OS 9 with out special software. Right mouse button worked just fine.

      j

    18. Re:Nah.... by Jayzz · · Score: 1

      If you use an Apple (or any Mac) Keyboard, you can remap scancode for windows; check here for more information. http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/input/w2kscan -map.mspx/.

      I just remap apple key (command key or windows key) as another control key when I use windows. This way, I can use the same physical key for most of shortcuts (ctrl-c, x, v Vs. cmd-c, x, v etc). Personally, I prefer command key for these shortcus to control key because of my small hands. YMMV

      Here's registry entry for the change I made.

      [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contr ol\Keyboard Layout]
      "Scancode Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,1d,00 ,5b,e0,1d,00,5c,e0,\
          38,e0,5d,e0,00,00,00,00

    19. Re:Nah.... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's true. It doesn't work well with right-handed use. Still, for having the easiest scroll ball, having the easiest side scrolling, and the easiest middle button of any scroll mouse, I think it still wins, just not as large of a margin as it should.

      The side buttons are kind of worthless though, given how much force it takes to activate.

    20. Re:Nah.... by c_forq · · Score: 1

      I noticed this toying around with it, but I noticed if I held it like a three button mouse or held my right finger further out to the side it wasn't a problem. With the middle nub as a button I found the three button mouse grip (which I usually don't like) really good for the mouse, and I found myself wanting to buy one for my PC (I don't have a Mac, at least not yet).

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    21. Re:Nah.... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Mac hardware always does rip you off, I only payed $39 for my 8 button pc-mouse, not $180.

      Did you learn spelling at Don's Discount Schools?

      Does that mouse have easy, proportional side scrolling?

    22. Re:Nah.... by Surt · · Score: 1

      No:
      http://www.thefreedictionary.com/payed

      And yes, not that I have to side scroll much on my 1920 horizontal pixel widescreen.

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    23. Re:Nah.... by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      it's actually incredibly frustrating to play WoW on a Mac without a 2-button mouse. vendors, mailbox, bankers, AH, auto-attack, inspect, etc all require a right-click and Option+Left Click is not a very smooth process.

    24. Re:Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that NeXT's mouse was two-button, not three, though you could emulate three (e.g., if using X-windows) by pressing both simultaneously.

      Other than that, you are correct. I usually use a two-button Logitech scrollmouse with one of my Macs, plus some of the other buttons are automatically mapped to Expose. It works out-of-the-box. Plug-and-play. Having the right mouse button works nicely in many applications (they *do* take advantage of it), and the scroll wheel works too.

      So, yeah, the guy is talking about ancient history. Don't like the one-button mouse? Plug it in. It works. Don't know if the software takes advantage of it? Press the other buttons and see what happens. You'll be surprised (usually in a good way).

    25. Re:Nah.... by milkman_matt · · Score: 1

      You are correct. I have a dual optical logitech USB mouse with a little thumb button toward the bottom of the thumb resting area, that little button has become my quickest and easiest way to switch windows after assigning it to the (f9) expose' function.. Made my life a helluva lot easier. Plus both buttons and the scrollwheel (and the scroll click) all worked by default just by plugging the damned thing in. So, I've never had an issue with more than one button on my powerbook.

    26. Re:Nah.... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      Not to nitpick or start a flame war, but isn't that like how microsoft word doesn't require a keyboard( office ships with voice recognition)? Mac OS is by far the best desktop OS out there and it does support two buttoned mice completely. I just wish they weren't so stubborn about some things.

      Have you ever tried using an alternate input device, like a stylus, voice interface, control stick, braille board, or touch screen with the average Windows and Mac applications? On Windows you constantly run into functionality that is only available via mouse, right-click. Often there is no easy way to get to this functionality with another type of interface. On the mac I know of only one program (a high end ray tracing suite) that provides functionality only in the right click menu. Having a default of one button forces developers to code to that standard and leaves that button available for other functions. Thus all programs offer all features to people with disabilities, or who just need a special interface for some situation. More importantly for me, it also means that rather than relying upon the developer to choose what options are in the right-click menu, I can build a custom menu with actually useful features. Right-clicking in notepad is useless. Right-clicking in textedit gives me a shortcut to the text manipulation scripts I occasionally use.

    27. Re:Nah.... by AtaruMoroboshi · · Score: 1


      one click away from your own link: "Payed, a nautical term that means "to let out a line or cable by slackening". Not to be confused with paid."

    28. Re:Nah.... by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      thanks, actually hoping to swap the keys on the mac to behave like windows keys, ie ctrl+x,c,v instead of alt+x,c,v on the mac...

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    29. Re:Nah.... by JazzCrazed · · Score: 1

      Can you consider the multidirectional rolling action of the ball collectively as a button as well? Then it's 5.

    30. Re:Nah.... by imthesponge · · Score: 1

      What about that "right-click" key that pretty much all recent PC keyboards have?

    31. Re:Nah.... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      What about that "right-click" key that pretty much all recent PC keyboards have?

      I'm not sure I understand your comment. People using alternative interfaces usually don't have the option of using the keyboard in conjunction with another device and often no keyboard at all. Think of someone paralyzed who uses their mouth to control the computer.

    32. Re:Nah.... by Surt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Not one link away:
      Bobbinet, very pretty, but Miss Monson bought one not quite as pretty, at Lace's; and SHE payed SIXTY- FIVE, if I am not mistaken.
      Autobiography of a Pocket-Handkerchief by Cooper, James Fenimore


      I'll not whine about such company.

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    33. Re:Nah.... by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 1
      Except that NeXT's mouse was two-button, not three, though you could emulate three (e.g., if using X-windows) by pressing both simultaneously.
      Ahh... my bad. I never actually used NeXT hardware; my first exposure was in the OPENSTEP days after NeXT stopped making hardware. I just knew there were key constants for three mouse buttons, so assumed there had actually been three physical buttons. :( My apologies.
    34. Re:Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess that goes to show... a free dictionary is worth what you "paid" for it!

    35. Re:Nah.... by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      Our options here are threefold:

      1. Blame Apple. They should include a 2-button mouse standard with every Mac (let's ignore that they now, in fact, do just that).
      2. Blame WoW. Poor design decisions by the developers have made the game difficult and unintuitive.
      3. Blame the user. He or she should have known to buy a multibutton mouse along with WoW. Licensing should be mandatory for computer use by the general public (read: fucking stupid idiots).

      If I were Michael Dell or an autistic tweleve-year-old, I'd pick #1. On Macslash or in blue states, #2. But since this is Slashdot, I'm gonna go with the crowd and pick #3.

    36. Re:Nah.... by pomo+monster · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I knew James Fenimore Cooper, and you, sir, are no James Fenimore Cooper. For one thing, he wrote The Last of the Mohicans on a Mac.

    37. Re:Nah.... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know if you can do the opposite thing? That is, map the Alt key on a (in my case, Linux) PC to the Ctrl and vice versa?

      I've used a Mac for years and prefer the Mac layout in terms of cutting/copying/pasting with the keyboard; the Ctrl key is too far out to the side for me to hit with my thumb, which is how I use the Command key on a Mac. (PC users seem to do Ctrl-V and the like using their little finger, which I find unnatural.)

      Any idea how to remap those keys?

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    38. Re:Nah.... by shmlco · · Score: 1

      Yes, the nipple can be pressed as well as rolled with the fingers... and there's something pornographic about that statement.

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    39. Re:Nah.... by 1729 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Autobiography of a Pocket-Handkerchief by Cooper, James Fenimore

      I'll not whine about such company.

      I would. Check out what Mark Twain had to say: Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offences.

    40. Re:Nah.... by pboulang · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Sounds like Calvin and Hobbes:
      "You know how Einstein was bad at math? Well, I'm even worse !"

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    41. Re:Nah.... by Surt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Not sure if you're joking or not, but it's fairly clear that Twain is expression admiration for Cooper's accomplishments in the guise of criticism. Typical Twain really, very clever, I was just a bit unsure from your post whether you got it or not.

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    42. Re:Nah.... by Misagon · · Score: 1

      I wish ...
      It has been quite difficult to find a new 3-button mouse lately, that does not have a scrollwheel instead of a real button.

      btw:
      * Safari support the third mouse button! It opens a link in a new window.
      * Apple's mouse driver sucks. Acceleration is very weird. Open source though, as it is part of Darwin.. but I have found only one replacement, which also has weird behaviour. Logitech and Microsoft override Apple's driver with their own.

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    43. Re:Nah.... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Or maybe two gel sacks, that you squeeze and twist, to chord keyboard input as well as mouse movements?

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    44. Re:Nah.... by Golias · · Score: 1

      Assessing blame is something that only needs to happen when there's a problem.

      World of Warcraft is a game which is easier to play with a multi-button mouse, as is the case for many games.

      The Macintosh is a computer which is not usually bought to mainly be a game machine, and most software for it was carefully designed not to need an additional mouse button. Therefore it's fine that not all models come with multi-button mice, the laptop track-pads are 1-button systems, and their wireless mouse is a one-button mouse. For most Mac apps, one button is all you need.

      If you want to play games on your Mac (as has been the case with me for about a year now. My last Windows machine was parted out and scrapped last winter), then buying a multi-button mouse is a good idea.

      If you are using a laptop, multiple buttons are "t3h sux0r." I love that I can blindly stab thee heel of my RIGHT thumb under the trackpad and always click correctly when I'm working without a mouse. "Ctrl-stab" for "right click" is actually way easier than having to worry about stab locations every time I need to click or right-click something.

      I know a lot of Linux geeks who own Apple notebooks hate it, but I will deeply mourn the loss of the one-button trackpad if it ever goes away.

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    45. Re:Nah.... by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      Yup, you and I both. That said, I'd be happy to see a Mighty Mouse-style trackpad button--still one surface, just configurable to allow ctrl-click on the right.

    46. Re:Nah.... by 1729 · · Score: 1
      Not sure if you're joking or not, but it's fairly clear that Twain is expression admiration for Cooper's accomplishments in the guise of criticism. Typical Twain really, very clever, I was just a bit unsure from your post whether you got it or not.

      Yeah, Twain sure snuck that by me. I'd never even suspected that this was praise:

      "Cooper's word-sense was singularly dull. When a person has a poor ear for music he will flat and sharp right along without knowing it. He keeps near the tune, but it is not the tune. When a person has a poor ear for words, the result is a literary flatting and sharping; you perceive what he is intending to say, but you also perceive that he doesn't say it. This is Cooper. He was not a word-musician. His ear was satisfied with the approximate word. I will furnish some circumstantial evidence in support of this charge . . ."

      Thanks for pointing out my mistake. In the future, I'll try to look beyond what is written to see, uh, something else?

    47. Re:Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Tiger added the ability to remap the modifier keys and Caps Lock (though not Shift).

      System Preferences --> Keyboard & Mouse pane --> Keyboard tab --> Modifier Keys... button.

    48. Re:Nah.... by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      He and I thought you were saying that you never have a choice except for using the right mouse button in some programs. We didn't understand that you were still taking about my alternative input analogy.

      Most of the time its stupid third party developers like creative labs ( or apple's intunes for windows) that want to have an interface that "looks cool" so they don't use the standard controls.

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    49. Re:Nah.... by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      i think it was just slightly poor planning by a company making a game for both the PC and Mac, or else the penetration levels of 2-button mice on Macs is higher than i think. my Mac is a laptop, so i use a trackpad which is one-button. it's a little awkward, and you have to have played the game to realize just how much you are right-clicking.

    50. Re:Nah.... by Surt · · Score: 1

      Yeah, your quote I have to say you are misreading if you think that is criticism. Keep trying though. :-)

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    51. Re:Nah.... by Wiwi+Jumbo · · Score: 1
      The side buttons are kind of worthless though, given how much force it takes to activate.
      A group here purchased 3 or 4 G5's and they all came with the Mighty Mouse, so far I've only gotten my hands on two of them but the side buttons react *very* differently. One you really have to squeeze to get an action and the other you can trigger by accident. It's actually pretty annoying it's so sensitive.

      As of yet, I've seen no way to adjust it.
      Maybe they just have low production standards? ;-)
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      Wiwi
      "I trust in my abilities,
      but I want more then they offer"
  5. check with the lawyers by User+956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can always tell which rumors are true by the rapid-fire Apple lawsuits to the websites responsible.

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    1. Re:check with the lawyers by DavidLeblond · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup! Because the Asteroid rumors were spot on! :P

    2. Re:check with the lawyers by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Yup! Because the Asteroid rumors were spot on! :P

      They just delayed the release to discredit the idea rumor sites actually have any real information. It will come out eventually. /conspiracy

  6. iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by carou · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Personally I'd have said this was a dead certain - all the previous versions have come in at MacWorld with an annual release cycle. Surely the only question is what new features will be in it?

    • Front Row?
    • New program providing PVR functionality?
    • Blogging tool? - actually no, that should go in .Mac instead.
    • Backup moved from .Mac to iLife?
    • Finance program or tax calculator?

    1. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by ronanbear · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At 50:1 for an x86 PB I'd put $30-$40 on one and that way I could afford one to buy one straightaway. I don't think those odds are realistic. With iLife 06 being good value at 10:1 a $5 bet would more than pay for the PB bet even if there weren't PBs.

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    2. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Front Row

      An interesting thing about Front Row is that it is installed into /System, which makes it likely that it will become a standard part of the OS in due time (Probably 10.5), and not part of iLife. There really isn't any reason not to, as it doesn't add much functionality on it's own, and is basically pointless without the remote.

    3. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Skidge · · Score: 1

      Finance program or tax calculator?

      A finance program would be most welcome. Quicken for Mac is awful. Most others I've tried out have been severly lacking in features. Lately I've been using Moneydance, which isn't terrible, but it's pretty simplistic. I'd like to see what Apple could produce in this area.

    4. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      '' At 50:1 for an x86 PB I'd put $30-$40 on one and that way I could afford one to buy one straightaway. I don't think those odds are realistic. ''

      Where are my moderator points when I need them? 50:1 odds for an x86 PB are ridiculous. If those odds were offered by a reputable betting shop where I could be confident that they can carry the losses, I would bet £1000 immediately. Chances for an x86 PowerBook are at least 1:5 or better.

    5. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Actually there already has been a blogging tool in .Mac for years. Unless they discontinued it at some point along the way, there is iBlog, a standalone blogging app which works with .Mac the way you'd think it would.

      I haven't touched in since I first downloaded it though, because it's not really for me feature-wise.

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    6. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Moby+Cock · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd like to see what Apple could produce in this area.

      As would I, however, in the meantime, perhaps this may interest you.

    7. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Skidge · · Score: 1

      Thanks. That does look interesting. I'll give the free trial a shot, at least.

    8. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Universe+Man · · Score: 1

      Chances for an x86 PowerBook are at least 1:5 or better.

      1:5? So it's five times as likely we'll see an Intel PowerBook as not?

    9. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by revscat · · Score: 1

      I just found iBank last night. I've been messing with it since then, and it seems interesting. MIght be worth checking out. It certainly is better than Quicken/Mac. So far, anyway.

    10. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by zoeblade · · Score: 1

      Finance program or tax calculator?

      Apparently Apple trademarked the word "numbers," so maybe they'll release a spreadsheet with iWork. It would be a bit out of place in iLife.

    11. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by geniusj · · Score: 1

      That's what he's saying...

    12. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      1:5? More likely than not? I doubt it. 50:1 seems a little harsh though. I expect an Intel mini probably. The PBs I'd expect at the developer conference in June -- dip that toe in the water before jumping into the deep end. 10.5 as well -- Apple releases new OSs at the developer conference in June.

    13. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Onan · · Score: 1

      Recall that Intuit is one of the very small set of companies on whom Microsoft has focused their sights, expended years of effort trying to defeat--and failed utterly. Anyone remember Microsoft Money?

      To say that Quicken is entrenched is to give short shrift to trenches the world over. I don't think that's a fight Apple wold pick while there are so many still-open markets available.

    14. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Isn't Intuit the company caught modifying people's hard drive boot sectors recently, and introducing spyware?

    15. Re:iLife '06 comes in at 10:1 by ronanbear · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it. If those odds had been realistic I'd have been very happy and very rich. On reflection a $10 accumulator bet on a powerbook AND iLife06 would have been worth $5000 at those odds. How's that for insane? A $100 bet would have made all sorts of headlines.

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  7. Price increases for iTunes by hsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have no problem paying $.99 for a song, but i will pay no more. This happens and I will be looking other places for my music for my iPod. They have to pay none of the traditional distribution costs of CD's, so they shouldn't even be the price they are now. you want to be greedy, i'll look elsewhere.

    1. Re:Price increases for iTunes by jocknerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well considering that it wouldn't be Apple's choice to raise the prices, I would think it might be pretty hard to find lower prices from legitimate online stores.

      Personally, I don't care if the prices go to a tiered structure. I don't buy the "hits" so the songs I'd purchase would probably come out cheaper than $.99.

    2. Re:Price increases for iTunes by JWW · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I would have to agree with you. The music industry is looking INSANELY greedy with this move. I hope Apple holds out and holds their feet to the fire.

      My prediction: If Apple goes to $ 1.99 for popular songs (read all but a small token number of the songs on the sight), allofmp3.com will begin to become an _enourmous_ hit (think Napster at its height). The RIAA is going to absolutely freak out and do everything in their power to shut them down. The funny thing is that that sight is bringing true market dynamics to selling music online (along with giving customers what they want, no DRM crap), but as much as they _say_ they are capitalists, the RIAA is just a price fixing oligarchy.

    3. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 2, Insightful


      The music industry would, I'm sure, like to have a tiered structure set up like so:

      Tier 1: Music you don't buy: $.49
      Tier 2: Music you do buy: $2.99

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    4. Re:Price increases for iTunes by frankthechicken · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now that would be a great business plan, charging people for things they don't buy.

      Now, how to market it.

      Obviously the RIAA's attempt has been less than satisfactory.

    5. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "The funny thing is that that sight is bringing true market dynamics to selling music "

      Apart from not actually paying the creators. That part of the "market dynamics" are a wee bit distorted.

      And some portion of AllOfMP3's money surely goes to the Russian mafia, also known for such delightful activities as human trafficking. I can't see the Russian mob failing to take a chunk of a money-spinning business like this.

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    6. Re:Price increases for iTunes by honeypotslash · · Score: 0

      There are plenty out there which charge 99 cents. The wal-mart music store is cheap and the AOL music now is really good (yes, I know that it is crappy AOL... but I tried their music store and it is actually pretty good).
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    7. Re:Price increases for iTunes by jone1941 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try emusic.com (look it's not even a referral link just the url). I like it so much I don't even care about the referral bonus for me! Seriously, even at the cheapest plan ($10/month) you get 40 tracks which is about $3/album depending on the number of tracks. It's largely independent labels so you aren't buying into the BS being shoved down the MTV/Radio tunnel of crap. Oh yeah and you get more tracks per $ with bigger plans and discounts on yearly purchases. God I should just get a job working for them.

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    8. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


      They'd certainly like to set *that* up. I was thinking more that they'd set things up so that "popular songs" are more expensive, and any song you buy must therefore (because you wanted to buy it) be popular (otherwise you wouldn't have bought it). Everything'd be $.49 until you click "Buy", at which point your action establishes the popularity of the song and the price jumps to $2.99 as soon as it hits your cart.

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    9. Re:Price increases for iTunes by croddy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      As I understand it, under Russian law, internet distribution of audio recordings is viewed as we would view cable television -- it's a transmission, not a copy. If you've secured broadcast rights (and they have), then you can transmit audio recordings over a network cable.

      Musicians obtain the vast majority of their income from live performances. Recordings serve the same purpose as radio play -- to promote performances. AllofMP3 does not represent a market failure.

      There was music before there were records or radios. Selling copies of pre-recorded music is a very recent phenomenon for this art form. The disappearance of substantial cash flow from record sales will not harm our musical culture.

    10. Re:Price increases for iTunes by ozydingo · · Score: 1

      A bit jumpy with the conclusions, aren't we? Just because an activity is illegal by oue (US) laws, or immoral by your standards, doesn't mean there is any mob influence. not saying there definately isn't, but it'd be nice to see conslusions based on, oh, i dunno, evidence.

      And I beleive the part of "not actually paying the creators" or music was taken care of by the RIAA well before online music stores or even online filesharing took hold.

    11. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're actually doing that right now, since they claim you don't buy the music but merely a right to play it in devices which the RIAA finds suitable.

    12. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Narcissus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just because they're not paying the creators, doesn't mean it's not legal. They say they have the money put aside, ready for when the various publishers register for it (as required by Russian law).

      I've never seen a site that says "yep, allofmp3.com is illegal". In fact, I've never seen a music or RIAA rep say that, which is pretty unusual.

      Firstly, I would say that the music industry guys WON'T register as required, as they DON'T want to provide legitimacy to the site. With the site running from Russia, and the apparent rules over there that let this site be set up in the first place, you can see that they are unable to force a particular pricing model, right? No, you have to register for the money that is required, without any ability to influence pricing.

      Surely they don't want to make this site legitimate, when they legally have no way of controlling it (only benefit from it).

      Just to address those people that say "well, they should be sending the money to the companies, instead of waiting for them to ask": when someone goes on government provided welfare (that is, when there is a law that provides financial recourse for your situation), is it the government's job to make sure they know who needs it and just send it directly?

      Again, if someone can show me (a half believable) link that says "yep, allofmp3.com is illegal" I'll accept that, but until then, I have to believe that Russian law permits this...

    13. Re:Price increases for iTunes by grub · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Now that would be a great business plan, charging people for things they don't buy.

      Cable TV networks charge you for things you don't watch. In order for me to get The Space Channel (in .CA) my cableco's package also included crap like The Golf Channel and StarTV (entertainment news). Screw 'em, cancelled cable and download the odd show I want to watch.

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    14. Re:Price increases for iTunes by utexaspunk · · Score: 2

      dude. i have to be a pedant- the word is site, not sight.

      sight = vision.
      site = location.

      as in, "we have an on-site admin" or "can you send someone out to the job site to check on this?". while there are many sights to be seen at various sites on the web, one does not go to a websight, but to a website.

      got it? kthxbye.

    15. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Luscious868 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I have no problem paying $.99 for a song, but i will pay no more. This happens and I will be looking other places for my music for my iPod. They have to pay none of the traditional distribution costs of CD's, so they shouldn't even be the price they are now. you want to be greedy, i'll look elsewhere.

      I'd totally buy into it if they also drastically lowered the price of less popular tracks. I don't listen to top 40 crap anyway. Go ahead and jack the price of Jessica Simpson tracks up by two or three times what they cost today just as long as you lower the prices of the less popular tracks by the same scale. You'd be doing us all a favor.

      Of course we all know that's not how it would happen. If the RIAA had their way the popular tracks would be "raised slightly" to $3.00 a track and less popular tracks would "drop drastically" to $0.95 a track.

    16. Re:Price increases for iTunes by misfit13b · · Score: 1

      Seconded. eMusic is seriously good stuff.

      I'm always tempted to jump to the next highest pricing level, but temper that by just listening to what I've downloaded already, and telling myself to be more patient until the next month's refill. ;)

    17. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "Again, if someone can show me (a half believable) link that says "yep, allofmp3.com is illegal" I'll accept that, but until then, I have to believe that Russian law permits this..."

      For the record, I never said it was illegal.

      I don't think the Russian mob would let that kind of a cash cow operate without interference, but that doesn't mean the business is illegal.

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    18. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "A bit jumpy with the conclusions, aren't we? Just because an activity is illegal by oue (US) laws, or immoral by your standards, doesn't mean there is any mob influence."

      Do you really think the Russian mob would see a business spinning money like that, essentially a legal piracy operation without the cost of physical materials, and not pressure them for a cut?

      "Nice little operation you've got here, it'd be a shame if anything happened to it."

      The mob may or may not have been involved in setting it up, but I'd be very surprised if AllOfMP3 isn't sending significant amounts of money to the mob.

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    19. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Narcissus · · Score: 1

      That's true, you didn't say that. But then, I didn't mean for my comment to imply you did, though I can see how it could be read that way.

      To be honest, though, I don't see what the Russian mafia has to do with this. I was addressing / arguing the bit where you said "Apart from not actually paying the creators".

      The fact that the Russian mafia showed up to take a cut afterwards shouldn't affect your judgment, otherwise imagine how many restaurants etc. (for a broad, useless example) you should not frequent and dine in just because they pay protection money to various gangs.

      If they were the ones that set it up in the first place, well again, I believe what should happen in that case is outside the realm of this discussion.

      Whether the money goes to illegal actions or not, the point is that the site seems legal in itself and that is what's important in this case, I believe.

    20. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Narcissus · · Score: 1

      Various RIAA members have been involved in illegal acts, too, though.

      Payola, illegally installing software on millions of computers and 'forgetting' to pay royalties.

      No doubt they've made more money out of iTunes than any mafia has out of allofmp3.com.

      So what should we do with a site that is sending money to help fund illegal operations in this instance?

    21. Re:Price increases for iTunes by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only problem with eMusic is that the MTV/Radio tunnel of crap is the stuff most people, myself included, want. All I could find on eMusic was no-name...crap that I had never heard of and am not interested in. All the POPULAR music is on iTunes or Rhapsody. I gave eMusic a shot and it would be a great service if they had you know stuff people actually want.

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    22. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "So what should we do with a site that is sending money to help fund illegal operations in this instance?"

      Do you honestly consider payola on the same level as human trafficking?

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    23. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Narcissus · · Score: 1

      Of course I don't (although, depending on how many artists have failed only because another artist has more money to push their tripe, there may be an argument that it has affected more lives).

      My point was that just because you're buying from someone who doesn't have alleged links to the Russian mafia, does not mean that your money won't be put to illegal uses.

      I just can't see how this discussion ended up focussing on the mob for some reason.

      Let's face it: human trafficking is probably not easy money. Maybe we should actually support allofmp3.com so that the mafia can see that there's way more money to be made, a lot easier, in this kind of work and they may actually reduce the number of human's trafficked.

      My other thought on this is actually a little contradictory to my last statement (probably just covering my bases): the mafia won't go out of business if allofmp3.com closes down. Also, it's not like their running human trafficking at a loss! allofmp3.com money does not get used to traffick humans so why should I care that my money goes there?

      Again, should I stop going to a restuarant, just because they pay protection money?

    24. Re:Price increases for iTunes by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      allofmp3.com is not illegal in russia, that's why RIAA bought a resolution on the american senate on an atempt to bully russia into passing some sort of DMCA. here.

      now let the "soviet russia" jokes begin.

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    25. Re:Price increases for iTunes by djdavetrouble · · Score: 2

      I'll never buy anything transcoded to a lossy format. Apple has been ready to deliver full quality audio for some time (ALAC, apple lossless audio codec), but I am sure the labels are adamantly against _THAT_

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    26. Re:Price increases for iTunes by feijai · · Score: 1
      Various RIAA members have been involved in illegal acts, too, though.
      Somehow, though, I don't think beheading is among them.
    27. Re:Price increases for iTunes by kfg · · Score: 1

      . . .the RIAA is just a price fixing oligarchy.

      I believe that is actually in their mission statement.

      KFG

    28. Re:Price increases for iTunes by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Well, people pay upwards of $4 for a barely recognizable portion of a song for a ringtone, so it could happen.

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    29. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get all the "charging more for popular songs is insanity" sentiment. Bands release singles with their most popular songs and a few B-sides all the time and charge about half the price of an album. This is something I believe was more popular from the perspective of purhcasing the single for the hit pre-MP3 days and is now mostly just to get B-sides out. Itunes enables bands and labels to not only make their hits widely available but any single song you want without purchasing the album. Given the history of hard format singles, charging more for popular songs makes sense. It's not even a new idea, it just works differently with itunes than with a CD, cassette or record.

      That said I still refuse to purchase things from itunes because of the lossy format issue. Especially at 128kbps AAC. They need to at least offer better quality lossy before I even consider purchasing a song on itunes.

    30. Re:Price increases for iTunes by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Tier 1: Music you don't buy: $.49
      Tier 2: Music you do buy: $2.99


      Imagine if this were literally true: the prices you see are prices pitched to you individually based on their profile of you and your purchasing history. If your history shows you buy everything put out by a particular artist, those titles are pitched at higher prices to extract more money from your obsession-compulsion. Others may pay more or less.

      It is technically feasible today: pricing not for what the market will bear but what each individual will.

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    31. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I've never seen a site that says "yep, allofmp3.com is illegal".

      Maybe because it isn't that simple?

      In fact, I've never seen a music or RIAA rep say that, which is pretty unusual.

      I think it would be silly for them to do that, because it would be promoting something that they can't currently stop.

    32. Re:Price increases for iTunes by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      My prediction: If Apple goes to $ 1.99 for popular songs (read all but a small token number of the songs on the sight), allofmp3.com will begin to become an _enourmous_ hit (think Napster at its height).

      This is the most insightful thing I've read in a while on any RIAA related issue. I've been using allofmp3 for a couple years now and I tell all my friends about. Sure, it might be a legal grey area, but the music industry has proven they are crooks and thieves with their lawsuits and at this point I'm kinda in a "Fight Club" type mood. These thugs and criminals need to be taken down at all costs, and if that means completely bankrupting their business model so that the real talented musicians can leave and make music on their own, so be it. The fact of the matter is that any good musician can now release their music directly to iTMS and cut out the middle-men (other than Apple of course). I'm all for this and the quicker we can get rid of these guys the better.

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    33. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      allofmp3.com will begin to become an _enourmous_ hit (think Napster at its height). The RIAA is going to absolutely freak out and do everything in their power to shut them down. The funny thing is that that sight is bringing true market dynamics to selling music online (along with giving customers what they want, no DRM crap), but as much as they _say_ they are capitalists, the RIAA is just a price fixing oligarchy.

      That capitalism isn't much different from the RIAA though. Basically, allofmp3 and RIAA make other people do their work at someone else's expense and then profit off of it without paying their due share for the product they are selling.

    34. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Macdude · · Score: 1

      Personally, I don't care if the prices go to a tiered structure. I don't buy the "hits" so the songs I'd purchase would probably come out cheaper than $.99.

      That's not the way it'd work. Most of the songs will be more than .99 cents and only be a handful (think loss leader) will become cheaper.

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    35. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent extremely interesting!

    36. Re:Price increases for iTunes by charstar · · Score: 1

      reading this comment nearly made me vomit.
      then it nearly made me cry.

      hopefully business practices would be considered illegal. i personnaly don't buy from the iTunes music store (they just don't carry much industrial yet), but if they set up a business model like that and set a precident, then i would hate to see what visa / mastercard could do if they teamed up with other retailers to sell 'purchase profiles'.

      i'm not an economist, so i have no idea what effect this would have on the economy at large, but i can't imagine it would be good. of course, this actually makes me feel a bit better .... i don't see the big boys wanting to f-up the economy.

    37. Re:Price increases for iTunes by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Let's be clear on this: Apple does not make lots of money on the iTunes Music Store. It was not until just recently (4Q FY2005) that iTMS finally posted a profitable quarter. It's primary purpose is to sell iPods.

      Recall also that, while the exact details are confidential, it is known that about 70 cents of each 99 cent download goes straight to the music labels that lisence the music to iTMS, which in turn keep about half of that as profit. Apple's costs to run the iTMS probably eat into a big chunk of the remaining 29 cents - imagine the datacenter infrastructure and bandwidth costs. The push behind flexible pricing (mostly so that prices can go higher for popular songs) comes from the music labels - Steve Jobs has vehemently resisted it for quite some time.

      so while it is true that iTMS does not have the traditional costs of CD distribution, tthe $0.99 price point isn't about being greedy.

    38. Re:Price increases for iTunes by alnjmshntr · · Score: 1

      Yeah right. Pop will always be .99, because it's demand is extremely sensitive to price changes. The tracks that are going to increase are indie and underground music, because their demand is not affected by price change as much.

      It's a different lifestyle, people buy pop music like they buy a load of wonder bread, they have little real interest in music quality. People who buy non-pop music are more discerning and will pay more for their good taste, just like organic grain bread is likewise more expensive.

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    39. Re:Price increases for iTunes by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      I believe Amazon tried this a while back. They increased their prices for customers they realized were price-insensitive and so you would receive different prices for the same book depending on where you were.

      If my memory serves, there was an enormous outcry, Amazon's reputation was seriously damaged, and they had to rescind the policy.

      D

    40. Re:Price increases for iTunes by someonehasmyname · · Score: 1

      Actually, the iTunes music store carries a lot of the more popular industrial stuff.

      I've seen Suicide Commando, Combichrist (and Andy's other two bands Panzer AG and Icon of Coil), Hocico, God Module, Rotersand, Grendel, Funker Vogt, VNV Nation, Assemblage 23, Covenant, Haujobb, Front Line Assembly and pretty much any other mainstream industrial band you'd expect to see.

      I've even been surprised to find Psyclon Nine, Xotox, Run Level Zero, Headscan, Imperative Reaction and a ton of other less popular industrial bands.

      Sadly, there's no Tactical Sekt, Feindflug, Dioxyde, Agonoize, Aesthetic Perfection, Aslan Faction, or Destroid so there's definitely more work for Apple, but it's not like they're ignoring the industrial scene.

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    41. Re:Price increases for iTunes by guet · · Score: 1

      Doesn't matter whether it's illegal in Russia or anywhere else. It's immoral.

      They say they have the money put aside, ready for when the various publishers register for it (as required by Russian law).

      I have a hard time believing you actually think that's true. Why don't you just copy the music from P2P instead? To the artists, producers, and sound technicians who worked hard to make that music, it has the same end result.

      "well, they should be sending the money to the companies, instead of waiting for them to ask"

      YOU the user shouldn't be making excuses for what is blatant copyright infringement. It's your responsibility to try to make sure you're not buying stolen goods. Because you can get away with it and it is possibly legal doesn't make it right.

      If you want to hear more independent and interesting music, and help artists actually make money from it instead of selling their life's work to middlemen, why don't you head over to one of the online retailers that sells without DRM and pay proper money for music. By going to allofmp3.com you're undermining any motivation to make music. Why should anyone make music for an audience as selfish as that?

    42. Re:Price increases for iTunes by charstar · · Score: 1

      metropolis recently made a deal with iTunes so more is starting to show up. but that stuff is really easy to get anyways. i like supporting my local record store and the smaller artists / labels. i'd also be more apt to buy music from iTunes if i knew i'd be screwing over the RIAA in some way. :)

      also, while i appreciate what iTunes is, i amore more comfortable having a physical medium to 'back up' my electronic copies.

    43. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Narcissus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, I do believe that they have the money put aside, as I have not seen any reason why they wouldn't.

      Now assuming they have the money put aside, as is required by Russian law, is it my fault that the recording companies haven't registered for the money?

      No. In fact, if I were a recording artist, I'd be hounding my manager and anyone else that would listen to get their arses in to gear and sort it out because it's their fault that I wasn't getting my money.

      Like I said in another post: if I were able to get government welfare but hadn't registered for it, whose fault is that? Mine, pure and simple. The money's there and the government is willing to give it to me, but I need to register for it to claim it.

      I kind of look at it this way: if the money wasn't there, why haven't the record companies applied for it then told EVERYONE that it's not there? I mean, in one fell swoop, that would bring the whole reputation of the site down.

      Again, it's no-ones fault but the record companies if they can't either:
      a) register for the money and get it; or
      b) register for the money, find out it's not there and yell it from the hilltops that it's a ripoff site.

      Like I said: that would once and for all tell the world about the truth of that site.

      Instead, they sit there. Why aren't their artists complaining, forcing them to do what allofmp3.com says they need to do, just so that everyone can know the truth?

      I think (and will continue to do so until shown otherwise) that they WILL NOT register because they KNOW that it's all above board, and they DO NOT want to legitimise that site. Pure and simple.

      Naturally, saying "obviously it's a fake because they don't give any money out" is also pure and simple. But in the end, they've shown their hand: "this is what you need to do to get your money". Why is NO-ONE willing to call their bluff?

      It's just not as simple as saying "it's a fraud".

      Just for the record, I don't buy from allofmp3.com. I don't buy from iTunes and I don't download music illegally.

      My entire music collection was either bought on CD or from independent sites such as eMusic and Magnatune.

      I just can't see how anyone can say "it's obvious that it's a scam" when it's so easy for the recording industry to jump through a few hoops and say "yes, it is a scam."

      Why has no-one tried to claim their money?

    44. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      metropolis recently made a deal with iTunes so more is starting to show up. but that stuff is really easy to get anyways. i like supporting my local record store and the smaller artists / labels. i'd also be more apt to buy music from iTunes if i knew i'd be screwing over the RIAA in some way. :)

      also, while i appreciate what iTunes is, i amore more comfortable having a physical medium to 'back up' my electronic copies.


      The reason that I've resisted purchasing a Mac is because the Shift key works intermittently.

    45. Re:Price increases for iTunes by maxume · · Score: 1
      I'd totally buy into it if they also drastically lowered the price of less popular tracks. I don't listen to top 40 crap anyway. Go ahead and jack the price of Jessica Simpson tracks up by two or three times what they cost today just as long as you lower the prices of the less popular tracks by the same scale. You'd be doing us all a favor. Of course we all know that's not how it would happen. If the RIAA had their way the popular tracks would be "raised slightly" to $3.00 a track and less popular tracks would "drop drastically" to $0.95 a track.

      Of course, this is the exact opposite of what they should do. They should lower the price of the popular tracks and jack up the price of the more obscure stuff. Wha? you say? People buying the obscure stuff are buying it because they like it, they will be willing to pay more to get it. As for the popular tracks, the more people that have purchased it, the smaller the remaining number of buyers *for that track*. Lowering the price would increase the number of willing buyers.

      Too bad it will never happen.

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    46. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      I kind of look at it this way: if the money wasn't there, why haven't the record companies applied for it then told EVERYONE that it's not there?

      Because then they are giving tacit approval of the site. And you can bet they would get paid, as it's in effect a license to continue.

    47. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      Somehow, though, I don't think beheading is among them.

      No doubt they'd do it if they could. Not quite the RIAA, but to quote Maddox, "if the law let Hollywood producers shoot us on the street and take our wallets, you bet your ass they would all have pistols."

    48. Re:Price increases for iTunes by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't worry about it too much.

      All it would do is create an underground economy.

      For example, I love artist X. After I buy one or two albums, my price goes up for other artist X albums. So instead of buying them from the iTunes Store, I buy one from you, one from Alice, one from Bob, etc. You all sell them to me at cost, since I sell you albums by Artists Y, Q, G, and F, who are expensive for you but still cheap for me.

      Obviously, this system is very fluid. We have to create networks of "cheapness," because after you proxy buy me two albums by artist X, it becomes just as expensive for you.

      It's also predicated on the DRM being weak.

      I think the upshot is that 1) the users would develop workarounds, and/or 2) people would say "fuck it!" and just go back to listening to live music.

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    49. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      From my experience with iTunes, it is either "free" or $.99. There is very little price differentiation, if any at all.

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    50. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Sorry, wrong lunatic. It was this guy who said it.

    51. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Narcissus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is exactly my point, but we all can't have it both ways.

      People complain "but it's taking money away from the artists". I say "no, it's the artists' managers and so on who are taking the money away from the artists, as they're frightened of admitting that it's a legal form of distribution, while still having no way to limit that distribution".

      The record companies are stuck between a rock and a hard place in that that is their exact situation: they either take the money and have no control or don't take the money and screw their artists.

      I'm sure they'll take the second option, but that doesn't automatically mean that allofmp3.com is the baddie. If you owed me $100, offered it to me and I don't take it, no-one would point at you and say "man, you're an arsehole, not paying back that money". No, they point at me and say "you moron, why didn't you take the money?"

      But for some reason when it comes to record companies and allofmp3.com, most people in this whole offtopic debate keep doing the former...

    52. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


              Various RIAA members have been involved in illegal acts, too, though.

      Somehow, though, I don't think beheading is among them.


      Ah yes, the old "Well, the Russian mob are worse" defense.

    53. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Golias · · Score: 1

      The (valid) opinion that artists don't get enough money out of their record contracts doesn't change the fact that they get no money ever from their songs being exploided commercially on allofmp3.com

      If you're fine with ripping off artists even worse than the record companies which you detest do, then by all means buy songs form allofmp3.com, and enjoy your place in the world as Part Of The Problem.

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    54. Re:Price increases for iTunes by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Imagine if this were literally true: the prices you see are prices pitched to you individually based on their profile of you and your purchase history."

      I believe Amazon.com has already done this in the past.....not sure if they're still doing it tho...

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    55. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Golias · · Score: 0

      Note to moderators: A polite spelling correction, as provided by the parent post, is not "Flamebait."

      At worst, it could be marked as "Off-Topic" (as could this post), but the best use of your mod points would be to find comments worthy of being modded up for adding to the discussion.

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    56. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Narcissus · · Score: 1

      Can you please read my argument?

      I'm not talking about contracts. I'm talking about the fact that, as far as we ALL know, the situation is really simple:
      1) allofmp3.com is required by law to pay a certain amount of money to record companies
      2) they have that money aside
      3) record companies need to register to have access to that money
      4) NONE HAVE

      Seriously. If you have any half decent looking proof that either allofmp3.com is not putting money aside, or that any record company has registered for it's share of money but has not received it, then please, show us.

      Until then, that's where it stands.

      I never even brought up contracts between artists and the record companies. All I'm saying is that if they had an artists interests at heart, why have they not followed the legal procedures and registered for the money?

      I said before that I don't buy from allofmp3.com, so go for your life and call me Part Of The Problem. Whatever. The point is that allofmp3.com is not ripping off the artists if they follow their side of the law, it's the record companies that aren't registered for the cash that are.

      Again, I look back at my welfare argument: if I don't register for welfare, whose fault is it if the government doesn't give me anything?

    57. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Golias · · Score: 1

      I said before that I don't buy from allofmp3.com, so go for your life and call me Part Of The Problem. Whatever.

      So why are you acting like I'm attacking you personally? Relax. I said people who do are Part Of The Problem. Obviously, that does not include you, since you don't.

      As for money they've "set aside", that's just silly.

      "I'd like to buy your car for $20. I've taken your car to a country which allows me to buy cars for $20 each, and set aside $20 for you. All you need to do is fill out this form which legitimizes what I've done, and you can collect a cool, sweet picture of President Jackson. You have not done so yet, and are trying to find ways to force my government to make me give the car back. What's the matter with you, don't you want my twenty bucks???"

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    58. Re:Price increases for iTunes by ktakki · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Musicians obtain the vast majority of their income from live performances. Recordings serve the same purpose as radio play -- to promote performances.


      I see this falsehood repeated so often, especially when P2P is the subject. Having spent twenty years in the music industry, I can say with assurance that both of the above sentences are completely backwards.

      In 2003, US gross numbers for live music totalled $2 billion. That same year, recorded music grossed $12 billion.

      Most touring acts are lucky to break even. The exceptions are the top tier acts (U2, Rolling Stones) that can get $300/seat, and jam bands like Phish and the Dead who can count on their fans attending more than one show per tour and who have a low overhead (e.g., no flashy video walls). Losing money on a tour is so common that many bands' lawyers and accountants set up a shell corporation for the duration of the tour just to shelter the bands' assets from their creditors.

      There are so many people getting paid during a tour, so many hands out waiting for their cut: the owner of the club/hockey arena/stadium/muddy field, the promoter, the insurance agency, the ad agency, the hired security goons, the (union) riggers who fly the lights and PA speakers, the people who lease the PA, the people who lease the van/semi/bus, the people who drive the van/semi/bus, roadies, techies, caterers, your manager, your agent, your lawyer, your accountant, and the person who stays behind at your house to make sure your rent is paid, your bills are paid, your plants are watered, and your cat doesn't die of loneliness and starvation. Don't forget your per diem on the road, meals on the road, and a place with a hot shower and a soft bed waiting for you at 3AM when your day is over. Touring is an exercise in logistics that makes Operation Desert Storm look like a picnic at the beach.

      Bands tour in support of their record. That's why many recording contracts allow for label support of a tour once the recording is released. Not the other way around.

      Finally, there are many acts that don't tour or stopped touring altogether. XTC rarely played live because Andy Partridge had stage fright. The Beatles played their last show in 1966 and kept releasing records for nearly four years, getting filthy rich in the process.

      k.
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    59. Re:Price increases for iTunes by curious.corn · · Score: 1

      Hey, hey stop right there. Yours is a clumsy straw man attempt and there's no fair reason to switch to ad hominem once the poor fellow took the bait. Please show good proof regarding allopmp3's involvement with russian mafia or just shut the fuck up; you might as well claim they're saddam or al quaeda members, paedophiles or good 'ol communists. Bah, troll... a cheap one too!

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    60. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


      How about you find a reference other than Wikipedia and do a little reading about organized crime in modern Russia.

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    61. Re:Price increases for iTunes by rakim · · Score: 0

      well, no offense, but i'd counter that the problem is your taste in music ;)

      emusic is the best thing for people who aren't listening/attracted to the MTV/Radio/Clearchannel tunnel of crap....great selections across all types of music...jazz, folk, rock, pop, world, dance, classical, hip-hop, just with a focus on independent labels/musicians....

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    62. Re:Price increases for iTunes by curious.corn · · Score: 1

      No boy, you brought up the argument, it's your job to back it up. WP is good enough reference to explain the definitions I linked...

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    63. Re:Price increases for iTunes by jeffehobbs · · Score: 1

      ...And what's more, with DRM, companies could actually make it so to play the media on the hardware you own, you had to play the inflated price! Think about it; if you get profiled as a "sci-fi fan", maybe your personalized, DRM'ed copy of "Space Epic 4021" goes up a dollar. They know you'll pay! And, a user who is not profiled as a sci-fi fan -- maybe they like dramas and romantic comedies -- gets a deal on "Space Epic 4021" because it's not normally the kind of movie they like, and getting a deal on it might actually entice that user to buy it.

      Good Lord. That's so evil. And totally plausible!

      ~jeff

    64. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Onan · · Score: 1
      You keep bringing up the Russian mafia thing. Even if we grant for the sake of argument that a Russian mafia does indeed take a substantial cut of this company's money... so? Wouldn't that make the company in question a victim, and not really appropriate to hold accountable for what its assailants may do with the money they steal from it?

      If we're into that level of indirect responsibility, I'd be much more inclined to hold every tax-paying American company responsible for the few hundred thousand people that the US government has murdered in the last few years. I rather suspect that anything the Russian mafia has undertaken pales in comparison to that atrocity.

    65. Re:Price increases for iTunes by famebait · · Score: 1

      now let the "soviet russia" jokes begin.

      I'll just do the obvious one:

      In Soviet Russia, the government stands above the music industry

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    66. Re:Price increases for iTunes by stretta · · Score: 1
      Musicians obtain the vast majority of their income from live performances.

      Bzzzzzt. Not true. Not all recording artists perform. Not all recorded music *can* be performed.

      This also ignores the fact that recorded music and performed music are two separate art forms. If you examine the most obvious mainstream examples, yes, a 'band' records an album and then 'tours' to support it, but this does not describe the entire music industry. I realize it is difficult to make this distinction when live albums are released and Ashley Simpson dances a jig to a ProTools playback.

      One use of the recording studio is to document a live performance. We should not leave it at that. The recording studio is a creative tool that allows forms of expression to flow way beyond that narrow defination. There is theatre, and there are movies. Movies are not simply film adaptations of stage plays. Separate art form. Not better or worse, but different. Recorded audio does not simply exist as a promotional tool.

    67. Re:Price increases for iTunes by croddy · · Score: 1

      All recorded music can most certainly be performed. Perhaps your definition of "perform" is faulted; you should attend an electronic music performance sometime.

    68. Re:Price increases for iTunes by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "Actually, I do believe that they have the money put aside, as I have not seen any reason why they wouldn't."

      No reason? How about, they'd rather spend it on women and drugs and fast cars, and there's no legal reason why they shouldn't?

      You seem to be incredibly naive about human nature.

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    69. Re:Price increases for iTunes by klez23 · · Score: 1

      Another poster has on the main gripe I had--"Musicians obtain the vast majority of their income from live performances" is completely false.

      However, it's worth looking at why. Yes, music predates records or videos, and musicians used to make all their money off performance. That used to be the only way to hear music! But since the appearance of radio, records, etc., the amount people go out to hear music has steadily dropped in comparison to album sales. Nowadays all the money is in product, not performance.

    70. Re:Price increases for iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shit, by your extreme defense of the mafia and/or allofmp3.com, you are either a russian mobster, or your work for allofmp3.com

    71. Re:Price increases for iTunes by corrosive_nf · · Score: 1

      But the flaw in your argument, is that who decides who is a good musician? You could think one guy is great, while I say he sucks donkey balls.

    72. Re:Price increases for iTunes by corrosive_nf · · Score: 1

      yeah he obviously has never heard of supply and demand.

    73. Re:Price increases for iTunes by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      But the flaw in your argument, is that who decides who is a good musician? You could think one guy is great, while I say he sucks donkey balls.

      Good musicians will naturally rise to the top of the download charts, and will be discovered. If anything the web has taught us that we don't need to depend on Billboard to find the good musicians.

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  8. Gentlemen, start you credit cards. by mynickwastaken · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a colleague which likes almost everything coming from Apple.
    In the last time I have the impression that he is working, here in our company, for nothing.
    I told him, that would be much easier, to talk with the payroll, so that they send his salary directly to Apple.

  9. Stupid odds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where the hell are the odds for overblown hype?

    1. Re:Stupid odds by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
      Where the hell are the odds for overblown hype?

      Here are the odds:

      Overblown hype: 1.
  10. The irony by drsmithy · · Score: 4, Funny
    From TFA:
    Apple has recruited a bunch of former Sony VAIO engineers for the project and the PowerBook successor is rumored to be 20-25 percent thinner.

    Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel. Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

    1. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nothing new. Sony designed the PB100.

    2. Re:The irony by bodgit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel. Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

      Why? Who do you think makes the laptops for Apple? The same OEMs that make all of the PC laptops, that's who.

    3. Re:The irony by nighty5 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Nothing can come good from offering an ultra thin laptop.

      The thinner it is, the more suspectible it is to braking.

      I have a 4 month old powerbook but it hardly leaves my coffee table.

      On the other hand, my companies Dell D600 which is a peice of shit, its too hot for the powersupply, the keyboard / wrist area is always hot - it totally blows chunks. The screen is also slightly cracked, on the other hand I've treated it like shit :D

      The fact is, don't make them too slim Jobsie, or you'll have another Nano on your hands. And there's on hot potato....

    4. Re:The irony by ThaFooz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel. Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

      I think Mac zelots (arguably myself included) are more enamored with the OS than the hardware. My gripe with PC manufactures out there is a lot of shoddy support, bottom-of-the-barrel parts, and bulky/ugly laptop design and only a handfull of gems.

    5. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>The thinner it is, the more suspectible it is to braking.

      I also hear it's more susceptible to breaking :)

      </spelling nazi>

    6. Re:The irony by Chucker23N · · Score: 1

      As someone else pointed out, the original PowerBook was designed by Sony as well.

    7. Re:The irony by Andy_R · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Manufacture != Design

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    8. Re:The irony by avalys · · Score: 0, Troll

      Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel. Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

      Uh, no, actually I couldn't care less. I was happy about the Intel switch - despite Apple's marketing, Motorola and IBM just haven't been able to deliver the same performance in the G4/G5 as Intel and AMD have with the x86 chips.

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    9. Re:The irony by doogles · · Score: 1

      Nothing can come good from offering an ultra thin laptop.

      The thinner it is, the more suspectible it is to braking.


      What do you consider ultra thin?

      I have a Panasonic Toughbook W2, and weighing in at 2.84lb (with 12.1" display and a DVD player) is one of the smallest laptops around in the "actually useful" class. I've never had any troubles with it 'breaking'.

      If someone ran over this laptop with a car, I'd buy another one (or rather, the new W4) in a minute. It's survived 2.5 years of the constant travel I do for business.

      Long live the Panny W2.

      -jd

    10. Re:The irony by rograndom · · Score: 1

      RYFQ (Read You F-ing Quote)

      "engineers" not "designers". I bet Ives will still be doing the look of the new powerbook. The Intel people will be there to make sure the insides work nicely in new design.

    11. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Going to SONY engineers is smart. Apple's hardware group is more familiar with contemporary PowerPC and not Intel gotchas. Also, what Apple considers thin is downright obese by Japanese consumer standards.

    12. Re:The irony by dracken · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually the Mac zealots were won over when Steve announced "we are moving to intel chips, iNTEL wink wink you know what I mean ?"

    13. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Not another Nano... one more dose of very heavy sales and critical acclaim would bankrupt the company!

    14. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have any clue just how fucking stupid you sound to someone who actually knows the relative performance levels and gains of PowerPC chips over the past five years compared to Intel?

      you say the relative performance gains of ppc over intel chips (x86). could it be that ppc was so far behind x86 in the first place that any 'relative' improvements still place ppc behind the x86 platform?

    15. Re:The irony by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Funny

      ''Nothing can come good from offering an ultra thin laptop.

      The thinner it is, the more suspectible it is to braking. ''

      Absolutely. I always slow down very gently when I have one in my car. It is so susceptible to braking, I suspect it would break if I brake too hard.

    16. Re:The irony by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel.

      As it happens, the intel announcement was taken with very little complaint in the Mac community. I went up to the SF apple store the day after the keynote last year, and it was business as usual. One sales associate there told me about one fanboy he pretty much needed to talk down from a ledge, but that was about it.

      Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

      Want to talk pain? Imagine being one of those Sony designers, doing all that fine electronic and mechanical work, and having the quality of the product still be limited by Microsoft. At Apple, they'll be able to specify better materials, because there's actually enough margin to support it. Viao notebooks are cleverly designed, but the economics of the PC world means they have to be flimsy.

      -jcr

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    17. Re:The irony by Tim+Browse · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The original Vaio laptop was supposed to be a Macintosh, too, but Apple told them to get lost, so they made PC laptops instead.

      Which makes the hiring of Vaio engineers (if true, of course) all the more amusing.

    18. Re:The irony by falcon5768 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I dont think so bub. You should see how no matter how the Intel thing works out, a lot of the "Apple Zealots" are still flaming pissed Apple switched chips.

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    19. Re:The irony by jcostantino · · Score: 1
      You are an idiot. Apple has worked with Sony and IBM in the past on PowerBooks. Apple and IBM worked on the PowerBook 2400. Apple and Sony worked on the Powerbook 100 series.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook (Search for "Sony")

      http://www.macopinion.com/columns/roadwarrior/02/0 4/02/ (Search for "IBM")

      Also, Apple's ODM makes PC laptops already, or did you think that Steve Jobs sits at home with a SMT workstation and puts them together himself? Arguably it would explain the initial shortages of new models.

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    20. Re:The irony by jcostantino · · Score: 1
      Want to talk pain? Imagine being one of those Sony designers, doing all that fine electronic and mechanical work, and having the quality of the product still be limited by Microsoft. At Apple, they'll be able to specify better materials, because there's actually enough margin to support it. Viao notebooks are cleverly designed, but the economics of the PC world means they have to be flimsy.

      Don't praise sony too much, their laptops are bulky, unreliable, ugly pieces of shit. We have one here at my office that has a faulty memory slot, I couldn't even tell you the model number without looking at it, it's PCLXG-2835üø29zeta4 or something similar. Whatever the model is, it's indicative of that line and a Google search would bring up numerous complaints about the same thing or worse.

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    21. Re:The irony by ozydingo · · Score: 1

      For anyone interested, here is what seems to be a decent reference comparing cpu architectures. But I got bored and didn't read the entire thing.

      Man that seems to be a problem for me, I never can focus for long enough to finis

    22. Re:The irony by Veldcath · · Score: 1

      That's "engineers", not "designers". Engineers make the hardware work, designers make the hardware look. Apple wants people experienced with cramming performance into very thin notebook form-factors. Sony's been doing that for a couple years, now.

      Thanks for trying. Do play again...

      -V

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    23. Re:The irony by HuguesT · · Score: 1

      Wait, you are saying that Apple notebooks are better designed because there is more margin than for PC notebooks? Yet the iBooks are among the cheapest notebooks around. By your argument they should be using very cheap materials (to secure larger margins) and so extremely flaky and flimsy, yet they are not.

      Apple has had a long field day with their notebooks because they were well designed to start with, they have not fiddled with their design as much as PC manufacturers, and they are able to charge for extras.

      In contrast there is very little differential in the PC world among notebooks (they all look and feel the same, pretty much), so manufacturers have had to compete on features. This is why it is impossible to get away with shipping only a combo DVD reader/CD burner in a current PC notebook, yet this is what Apple is still doing with all 12" iBooks and some 12" PowerBooks.

      Will things change when moving to Intel? I think Apple will be feeling more competitive pressure now that their main performance indicator (the CPU make and speed) will be directly comparable with PCs. It will be interesting to see.

    24. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh - was waiting for that. Of course now that the hardware is the same as 'pee cee' then suddenly it's all about the OS. Suuuurrree....

    25. Re:The irony by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1
      The G4/G3 chips were extremely cheap compared to the Intel/AMD chips. Apple did not have to license or purchase motherboard chipsets/designs from a third-party. Also, the margins on the consumer level products such as the eMac, iBooks and iMac were lower than the Power range of pro-sumer products.

      Funny that you should mention features. It was not until the past year that DVD burners were becoming standard equipment on PC laptops whereas powerbooks have offered DVD burners for years.

      Bluetooth support has also been ubiquitous on macs since the standard came out.

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    26. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's what the bitch is. My wife has an iBook G4, and it's SLOW! It won't run Eclipse even with 640 MB RAM. I want FAST hardware, not useless OS gimmicks.

    27. Re:The irony by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1



      I dunno, VAIO laptops are pretty spiffy as Windows laptops go.

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    28. Re:The irony by drwiii · · Score: 1

      Want to talk pain? Imagine being one of those Sony customers, buying all that fine electronic and mechanical work, and having the product break down three days out of warranty.

    29. Re:The irony by javaxman · · Score: 0, Troll
      Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel. Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

      Nothing new there, actually. You hire motherboard designers who have experience... guess what type of chipset they last designed around ? Making the decision to hire former PC laptop designers was even easier this time around...

      Frankly, I guess I don't count as a zealot since I don't care who designs my hardware, as long as it doesn't suck.

    30. Re:The irony by John+Nowak · · Score: 1

      It has always been all about the OS. You think I wanted a G4?

    31. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, man, that's gotta hurt the Mac zealots even more than the switch to intel. Apple hiring *PC laptop designers* to build the next Powerbook.

      Uh, well, all the Mac laptop designers are already on payroll.

      When they want to hire more laptop designers, who do you think they're going to be hiring? The SPARC laptop team?

    32. Re:The irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably because the last powerbook designer split and started his own company called OQO. It's a neat computer, although for laughs, I looked up their office space locale. They're on the corner of "Crack" and "Whore" in SF's Mission neighborhood.

      Of course it's nice to think that the company invested it's cash on the product not the office digs I suppose.

    33. Re:The irony by HuguesT · · Score: 1

      I basically agree with what you wrote, indeed Apple notebooks especially PBs simply were the best laptop until about 12-18 months ago. In particular PC laptops had terrible battery life (60-90 minutes, typical...) and were prone to actually burning your lap...

      However things have changed very rapidly in the PC world. Now PC laptops have better features (larger screens, DVD burner standard, PCMCIA slot, wireless, BT, excellent build quality (IBM, Fujitsu, etc), faster CPU, more RAM, more disk, 64-bit, now dual-core etc etc etc) AND they have better battery life AND they are cheaper. I'm not listing OS/X because PC laptops by and large have Linux and in my mind the two are equivalent (for what I'm doing, may not be true for all).

      It will be good to see what Apple is going to offer soon.

  11. Upcoming products by pieterh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Improved video iPod with larger horizontal screen
    2. More tie-ins with TV producers

    1. Re:Upcoming products by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 1

      You know, I wonder if it would be a good move to increase the size of the iPod screen or not. Videos from iTMS are already encoded at the exact size of the current 5G iPod's screen, so if they increased it, they would either have to scale (yuck? OTOH, I guess most iPod videos scale up pretty well, especially if it's just a little bit, but I assume that part of the reason for matching the two was to use less processing power) or have black bars on the right and left (ick, even though they do have them on the top and bottom now sometimes, but that is far more common). Or have black bars on all sides, I guess, depending on which dimension or dimensions they change--now that, my friends, would be yucky.

      Personally, I don't think they'll change the size of the screen--I think they've kinda tied themselves to this size for a while. On the other hand, I didn't think they'd switch to Intel, so I'm probably not the best person to listen to, but it's sure fun to guess. :)

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    2. Re:Upcoming products by setirw · · Score: 1

      Or, although it would be really expensive, have the entire front of the unit comprise a touch-sensitive OLED. When switched off, the unit has simply a white front. But when switched on, the entire front panel becomes a variable-sized display, adapting to the dimensions of the media?

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  12. Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    O'Grady writes :"Hopefully it'll be the PowerBook nano I've been dreaming of. Unfortunately, it's not likely as the pro software (Final Cut, Creative Suite, etc.) isn't universal binary yet. Rosetta emulation isn't fun folks. Odds: 50-1."

    So, basically, he's saying that because a certain segment of the userbase will be waiting a little while, EVERYONE should wait?

    If Apple doesn't ship Intel Powerbooks now, these users are going to be waiting, because they certainly aren't going to buy G4 powerbooks unless they absolutely have to. If Apple does ship Intel Powerbooks now, these users are going to be waiting for their apps to be shipped as Universal binaries.

    So, given that these customers are ogoing to be waiting either way, why shouldn't Apple get hardware on the market to serve the customers who *can* buy now? Customers for whom XCode is their main app, not Photoshop or Final Cut.

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    1. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by williamhb · · Score: 1

      O'Grady writes :"Hopefully it'll be the PowerBook nano I've been dreaming of. Unfortunately, it's not likely as the pro software (Final Cut, Creative Suite, etc.) isn't universal binary yet. Rosetta emulation isn't fun folks. Odds: 50-1."

      So, basically, he's saying that because a certain segment of the userbase will be waiting a little while, EVERYONE should wait?


      Quite likely - otherwise Apple could face the prospect of it being reported in the media as "Apple have released a new computer but some of their important software packages won't work with it", and bang goes the iPod halo effect.
    2. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      If Apple doesn't ship Intel Powerbooks now, these users are going to be waiting, because they certainly aren't going to buy G4 powerbooks unless they absolutely have to.

      I'm trying to figure out why anyone would buy a Mac right now, unless they absolutely needed it. I'm in the market for a Mac. Right around the time I was ready to buy a Mac Mini, they announced the switch to Intel processors. I don't NEED it right now, so I'm going to wait.

    3. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 2, Interesting


      It's not like this wouldn't be known up-front. Further, I would expect the very fact that so much runs, and so well, that any apps not ready yet won't be given much weight. And, they'd be shipping early.

      Do you honestly think Apple is going to sit on their hands until Adobe gets their act together and ships?

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    4. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

      I have an Oct 1999 iMac running MacOS 9 and a Linux box running Mandriva. GnuCash failed to import my Quicken (99) files, so I'm looking at a new Mac. I have a few old 68000 programs (that I paid for, back in the day). So a PowerPC Mac that can still run 68000 Classic apps has a certain appeal. $129 for MacOS X and $49 for iLife and $69 for AppleWorks is half the cost of a Mac Mini.

      I am wary of buying a nice display bundled with the computer. In 4 or 5 years, the computer will seem dog slow and the display will still seem nice. So a $600 to $800 G5 Shoe Box would certainly tempt me to crowbar the wallet open.

      Or is 64-bit computing all hype, and Alpha, SPARC, MIPS, and PPC all 64-bit dead ends, while Intel TM 32-bit ISA is the One True Future?

    5. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by aclarke · · Score: 1
      Well that's why I bought my 15" powerbook a month or so ago -- because I needed it. When it's a tool you rely on for your job, then it's worth buying. I also wouldn't buy an Intel Powerbook for probably 6 months after it came out if I could avoid it just to let other people learn the hard lessons, so I just wan't prepared to continue to use my old 12" 867MHz Powerbook for 8+ more months.

      If you're buying a Mac as a "toy", like a Mac Mini for your living room, then I totally agree. I'm poor after buying my Powerbook, but I'm waiting for the Intel Mac mini before I buy one too.

    6. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


      On the other hand, it's *always* been a bad idea to buy *now* - right before MacWorld Expo.

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    7. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So, given that these customers are ogoing to be waiting either way, why shouldn't Apple get hardware on the market to serve the customers who *can* buy now?

      Because unlike every other laptop vendor out there, Apple is all about the full experience, not just the box. If Apple did what you're describing, why wouldn't people just go buy a Dell, or a Sony instead? It's the same hardware for the most part now...

      If they want to keep their premium rep, they can't ship the new hardware until *all* of the new software is ready.

    8. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

      > Do you honestly think Apple is going to sit on their hands until Adobe
      > gets their act together and ships?

      Adobe has no incentive to start selling their x86 ports until there is an actual installed base of x86 Mac users to buy it. Historically, this means that x86 Photoshop will ship late this year or early next.

      jfs

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    9. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "If they want to keep their premium rep, they can't ship the new hardware until *all* of the new software is ready."

      They didn't wait for all their pro software to be G5-optimized.

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    10. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That logic only half works.

      If I needed a new Powerbook now, I'd have to buy one now that was capable of running Photoshop and Dreamweaver. I'd rather have a G4 running these apps now than have an Intel that can only struggle with Rosetta PPC emulation.

      A certain, significant portion of the market - corporate sales - would rather have something that let them get the job done properly NOW than one they'd have to wait several months to be able to use properly.

      G4 Powerbooks aren't going to suddenly stop being able to run stuff after the Intel introduction.

    11. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by CountBrass · · Score: 1
      buy a Dell, or a Sony instead? It's the same hardware for the most part now.
      You've obviously never used either a Dell or a Mac. Dells are made from any old crap the $5/hour assemblers find lying around in the factory and the cheapest of cheap cases, mouse nipples, keyboards etc. There's a big difference. Do yourself a favour and try them both. I own a PB and am cursed with having to use a Dell laptop for work: the difference in quality between the two is enormous. Dells are cost less but they're still seriously over-priced.
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    12. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      More to the point, it is extremely possible that Apple will ship universal binaries for all their pro apps on Jan 9th. Whether that coincides with new powerbooks, iduno.

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    13. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      There are probably plenty of G4 powerbooks in the channel to serve the few people forced to buy a new G4 in the meantime.

      If push comes to shove, people who need a PPC Mac would be able to forgo portability for a while and buy a G5 of some sort.

      I can't see Apple holding up the Intel machines until Adobe ships universal binaries. Nor can I see Apple holding up the Intel machines until all the Pro apps are on Intel. (There's no way they're going to keep shipping slow G4 powerbooks until the relatively few Shake users can get a native build...)

      Nothing will encourage Adobe to ship fat versions of their apps more than a shipping Intel Powerbook and a population of users dying to use Photoshop on them.

      It's a classic chicken-and-the-egg problem, and the solution is for Apple to act, not to wait for everyone else to move first.

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    14. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by castlec · · Score: 1

      Adobe has no incentive to not sell to x86 Mac users. They have already ported their applications to Windows. This means that any expensive optimizations that are specific to the architecture have already been made. Since the majority of the cost of entry has already been fronted by Adobe, they would be all but stupid to not finish the transition as soon as possible. They don't need to establish a new codebase and they get more customers.

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    15. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by cosmo7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Historically,

      Apple switches to 32-bit clean 68K: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple switches to System 7.0: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple starts using 68040: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple switches to PowerPC: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple starts using SMP: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop
      Apple switches to OS X: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop

      So except for these events you're correct. If you want a laggard, try Quark.

    16. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by dangitman · · Score: 1
      So, basically, he's saying that because a certain segment of the userbase will be waiting a little while, EVERYONE should wait?

      It's more like most Powerbook users will have to run at least something under Rosetta if an Intel model was released now. That's not going to be fun for users - and it would be an absolute PR meltdown for Apple. You are not going to see any Pro Apple machines until a significant amount of worthwhile applications are Intel-native.

      Practically anything worth doing on a Powerbook requires capabilities that are not provided by Rosetta, which only handles the G3 instruction set.

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    17. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      You've obviously never used either a Dell or a Mac. /me looks at his Dell. /me looks at his Powerbook, and PowerMac /me blinks...

      You're right, Dell was a poor choice for an example, since they essentially represent the worst the PC laptop world has to offer. All other things being equal though, it's really the software that makes a Mac stand out. I've got a Sony Vaio and an Acer Ferrari (the Athlon 64 version, not the crappy original that was featured/made fun of on slashdot a while back), and hardware quality/durability/shiny factor wise they're just as impressive as my Powerbook. Software wise (especially with the Vaio) they're a nightmare though. It's like they got 90% of the way to a good user experience, and gave up.

    18. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "
      Practically anything worth doing on a Powerbook requires capabilities that are not provided by Rosetta, which only handles the G3 instruction set."

      Oh please. Spare me the graphic designer primadonna act.

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    19. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by thogard · · Score: 1

      There will NEVER be an Intel based Powerbook. PowerPC is IBM's Trademark and an Intel based PowerBook would result in a cease and desist letter from IBM.

      All Apple needs for an Intel based machine for the school market is the student version of Office and iTunes.

      The other thing is they can't release a high end Intel laptop because its simply not fast enough to outdo the quad G5 benchmarks so if they released a high end Intel machine now, their Intel shift would look like a very bad idea and their stock price would tumble.

    20. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm trying to figure out why anyone would buy a Mac right now, unless they absolutely needed it. I'm in the market for a Mac. Right around the time I was ready to buy a Mac Mini, they announced the switch to Intel processors. I don't NEED it right now, so I'm going to wait.

      This could be a cash cow for developers. You think the Intel Mac upgrades will be handed out for free? Adobe (and Apple...!) will be able to charge $200-300 to sell those who switch from PPC to Intel Macs the same version of the application they already own.

    21. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


      The Powerbook name predates the PowerPC. Apple was selling Powerbooks back in the Motorola 68k days.

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    22. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by WMD_88 · · Score: 1

      Um...that's completely wrong. Apple has called them PowerBooks since the 68k days. The name has nothing to do with PowerPC.

    23. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by TibbonZero · · Score: 1

      If you are purchasing a Mac Mini, then you might not really be a Pro Users so you might not be affected by the same things that a Pro User would.

      Why would a Pro User "Need it now" you may wonder: Because they have professional needs to fulfill and some of those are time oriented, which in turn means they are money oriented- this business oriented.

      If I'm about to set up a recording studio that will open on January 15th or so, and I need to purchase computers to go in it, or if I'm about to go on the road and I need four powerbooks that WILL run my Pro apps then it matters and I need it now. Realistically, at that point you just buy what is available and works (i'm not sure how i'd like being a guinea pig for version 1.0 of these things in a business enviornment anyway) and move on.

      However, Apple has a habit of not always still carrying old products. What if my powerbook and G5 tower both get dropped off the back of the truck and I need two computers that work with Pro apps and I need to get them right now? If their new laptops don't support my applications and that is all they are selling... then that really isn't cool.

      I could also see if being a huge affect to them financially for a bit. How many teens are buying 30" apple displays and $1500 video cards to play Quake? Few. Quite a few professional graphic designers and videographers are! No one will buy Quad processor and 30" display items if their software won't work.

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    24. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trademark law has changed since then.

    25. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by damiam · · Score: 1

      WTF? Why would anyone compare a laptop against watercooled quad G5s? Any Intel chip they went with would be loads faster than the current G4s.

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    26. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "How many teens are buying 30" apple displays and $1500 video cards to play Quake? Few. Quite a few professional graphic designers and videographers are!"

      And (Mac, Unix, Java) developers, scientists and, well, people who like good technology and can afford to splurge.

      It's been widely noted how common OS X laptops have become at technical conferences and get-togethers. Those people are all potential happy purchasers of Intel Powerbooks, who would probably not be satisfied with an iBook (for one thing, iBooks don't have DVI out.)

      The Mac user world is not divided up between graphic/sound pros and teenagers. Graphics, video, and sound pros are not the only customers buying Powerbooks, with everyone else buying iBooks.

      I work for a huge global consulting company, which is Windows-oriented, but I spotted one manager-level employee at the Philly office who preferred to use a 17" Powerbook, even though he also had to lug around a Windows laptop for occasional use.

      This seems to be news to a lot of people: Powerbooks are not the exclusive territory of graphics/video/sound pros.

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    27. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by MojoStan · · Score: 1
      Practically anything worth doing on a Powerbook requires capabilities that are not provided by Rosetta, which only handles the G3 instruction set.

      Not anymore, regarding Rosetta. According to an OSx86 Project article and an Apple Insider article, Rosetta now has full G4 support (including Altivec). From the first article:

      First, the Rosetta emulation platform in 10.4.3 build 8F1111A has been upgraded to feature full G4 support, including Altivec. This not only adds a new layer of compatibility to Rosetta, but also improved speed for Altivec-equipped applications.

      I don't know if Rosetta and a dual-core Yonah will run G4-optimized software fast enough, but it will run.

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    28. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Apple switches to OS X: Adobe promptly updates Photoshop

      It took Adobe over a year to release a version of Photoshop that was compatible with OSX. Guess it depends on your definition of "promptly".

    29. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      If I needed a new Powerbook now, I'd have to buy one now that was capable of running Photoshop and Dreamweaver. I'd rather have a G4 running these apps now than have an Intel that can only struggle with Rosetta PPC emulation.

      Or you could buy an x86 laptop right now, and run those programs natively at speeds far faster than the Powerbook can do, and save money in the process. Sounds like a no brainer to me.

    30. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by Geoff · · Score: 1

      it's *always* been a bad idea to buy *now* - right before MacWorld Expo.

      Ain't that the truth. It always amazes me to see people whining on Mac-oriented sites and mailing lists about how the ________ that they just bought has just been replaced by a spiffy new super-_______.

      As if it's a surprise that Apple tends to announce big things at Macworld and WWDC......

      Geoff

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    31. Re:Who cares about the pro users? by podperson · · Score: 1

      Apple adopts DSPs (in their special AV models): crickets

  13. They forgot the.. by majest!k · · Score: 5, Funny

    Odds that Steve Jobs won't wear black:

    999999999-1

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    1. Re:They forgot the.. by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Funny

      What about the odds that Steve Jobs will announce he is in fact the second coming of Christ? Could you worship a black turtleneck wearing savior?

    2. Re:They forgot the.. by rylin · · Score: 1

      Well,
      jesus WAS black (Dogma!) - can't our savior wear whatever clothes he wants to?

    3. Re:They forgot the.. by Elvis+Parsley · · Score: 1

      He'd be a natty-looking savior. The black would do a good job of hiding the wound in his side.

    4. Re:They forgot the.. by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 1

      What about the odds that Steve Jobs will announce he is in fact the second coming of Christ?

      Geeee.... if that happens we will become the astounded witnesses to a first in human history. The Bush administration would declare war and despatch a few Marine divisions to invade Apple headquarters (but only after a prologned air bombardment).

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    5. Re:They forgot the.. by enzo_romeo · · Score: 1

      I already do.

    6. Re:They forgot the.. by BioCS.Nerd · · Score: 1

      Those of us who believe already know it is He.

    7. Re:They forgot the.. by dangitman · · Score: 1
      Could you worship a black turtleneck wearing savior?

      Overlord, yes. Saviour, no.

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    8. Re:They forgot the.. by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, are you confused about mathematical symbols.

      You could have said 1 in 999999999, or 999999999 to 1, or 999999999:1, or even 999999999/1. You can use words and the word ratio with a hyphen, like "big-tiny ratio", and I guess you could extend this to nine hundred and ninety nine million, nine hundred and ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine-one ratio, but that's just crazy.

      Incidentally, what you said really means 999999998 to 1. Hell, maybe that's what you meant, which would lead me to believe you have a whole other set of problems!

      Of course, I have problems of my own. Notably I have way too much time on my hands!

      -Peter

    9. Re:They forgot the.. by tyrione · · Score: 1

      Think Eastern Orientalism. Jobs is not into the Trio of monotheistic faiths. He did however do his own vision quest to India before founding Apple.

    10. Re:They forgot the.. by the+phantom · · Score: 0

      Since you are being pedantic, you probably meant 1/999999999, as opposed to 999999999/1, which is, in fact 999999999.

  14. My breakdown... by csoto · · Score: 5, Interesting


    10. OS 10.5 - not gonna happen. Apple is focused on Rosetta/Xcode QA for Mac OS X86. Whatever works well gets ported to 10.5 (think of 10.4 as the beta for X86)

    9. X86 Powerbook - Could be. I would bet on this one.

    8. iWork '06 - Could be. Who cares? I really like iWork '05. Pages is a treat, and Keynote is indespensible for me. But if they are working on a spreadsheet, yeah, this is the time to release it.

    7. iLive '06 - Unless it adds things similar to Front Row, I don't see that it needs anything more than bug fixes. I wouldn't bet on it.

    6. BT remote - Definitely going to be some kind of Front Row remote. Bluetooth? Probably. All new Macs have it, for several months now.

    5. iTunes price increases - Not gonna happen. Steve knows this market. The market will not ignore him, no matter how greedy they are. Too much money is being made.

    4. AirPort Ultra - Neat idea, but I won't bet on it. I would buy one, though :)

    3. 1GB iPod Nano - Don't think so. The shuffle fills this space, but that's not big enough for the Nano's market segment.

    2. X86 Mac Mini - I'd bet on this. I might even buy one for my parents. Their old IBM suck ass.

    1. Widescreen X86 iBook - This one is obviously going to happen, but probably not now. Apple will drop 4:3 format entirely, as will the rest of the world (showing they are, as always, technology leaders). They just won't cannibalize Powerbook sales with iBooks until they have milked it long enough.

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    1. Re:My breakdown... by bodgit · · Score: 1

      10. OS 10.5 - not gonna happen. Apple is focused on Rosetta/Xcode QA for Mac OS X86. Whatever works well gets ported to 10.5 (think of 10.4 as the beta for X86)

      Given we're/I'm only on 10.4.3, I would've hoped there was more life left in the old tigger still. I'd certainly be pissed if I had to fork out for another upgrade.

    2. Re:My breakdown... by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It will be interesting to see whether or not Apple will update the powerbook or iBook first. Obviously the powerbook needs a serious upgrading, although I love the powerbook that I bought in May of last year, if I didn't get $400 off due to a very generous campus promotion, I would have never bought it. The machine is way too underpowered compared to the competetion.
      That being said, the switch over to Intel is obviously going to be a big one and the chances for serious bugs is still high even with a lot of testing. Apple could try rolling out the mini/iBooks first to test the waters, knowing that pro customers make up a lot of Apple's revenues and are much less tolerant of bugs than say consumers.
      Regardless, twenty-aught-six should be an interesting year for Apple!

    3. Re:My breakdown... by SpinJaunt · · Score: 1
      3. 1GB iPod Nano - Don't think so. The shuffle fills this space, but that's not big enough for the Nano's market segment.
      If most places had 1GB iPod shuffles instock.

      I think shuffles have become an EOL product already, heh, as there is probably more profit to be made from iPod Nanos and shuffles are pretty crap, for a few $'s more I could have a screen and twice the storage space for my digital media files.
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    4. Re:My breakdown... by jone1941 · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who thinks that apple will just release a non-yonah based ibook.? I mean they want to have differentiation between the consumer and pro models. Why not release the ibook with "similar" specs to the current powerbooks with celeron or lowend pentium m processors? This will prevent major cannabalization of the current powerbook lines and allow them to release the yonah based powerbooks as the pro model they really are. Remember when the ibooks were g3 and the powerbooks were g4? That kind of product segmentation was the good old days as far as apple was concerned instead of having to make it about the smaller details (materials, graphics card, backlit keyboard).

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    5. Re:My breakdown... by BenjyD · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But if they upgrade the iBooks first, won't they be significantly more powerful than the Powerbooks for a while. Assuming Apple is going for a new Pentium M of some kind, that is.

    6. Re:My breakdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Am I the only one who thinks that apple will just release a non-yonah based ibook."

      Because they would be laughed at...

      Yonah will be slow enough already. The vast, VAST majority of Mac software will be emulated for 2006 and will be slower than current Apple laptops.

      Yonah is hot, power hungry, 32bit, and has pathetic floating point performance.

      And you think Apple is going to put out a Pentium M machine???

    7. Re:My breakdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Apple will drop 4:3 format entirely, as will the rest of the world (showing they are, as always, technology leaders).
      Oh please. 75% of the x86 laptops on the market are already 16:9. The "technology leader" boat has sailed on this one.
    8. Re:My breakdown... by King+Babar · · Score: 1
      9. X86 Powerbook - Could be. I would bet on this one.

      8. iWork '06 - Could be. Who cares? I really like iWork '05. Pages is a treat, and Keynote is indespensible for me. But if they are working on a spreadsheet, yeah, this is the time to release it.

      About the Powerbooks, what people haven't paid much attention to is the fact that Intel will be offering a single core low end version of Yonah. Ladies and gentlemen: your new iBook. This then frees the faster dual core models to be the PowerBook Advantage (tm). Similarly, the Mac mini will be single core. The re-revised iMac, which may or may not come at MacWorld, will be dual core. Higher performance desktop class chips will be used in the new PowerMacs, due in several months. Interestingly, Apple has almost no incentive to mess with the XServe line until Intel provides something really compelling.

      About iWork: I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Pages is lacking many, many, many features. It's not integrated with any citation software, it's really slow, its html export features are not quite there, it chokes on large documents, it's really slow, there seems to be an issue with color calibration of embedded PDFs (anybody else see this?), its Word import is pretty buggy, and it's really slow. Also, slowness is an issue unless you're using the latest/greatest hardware. That said, Pages is the very best scientific conference poster maker of all time, bar none. You can use Keynote for this as well, but Pages, being a page layout program more than a presentation program, is more suitable, at least in my hands.

      Keynote is getting quite nice, on the other hand. I don't like the UI for some "do this to all slides" tasks like defaulting transitions to incremental. Its Powerpoint import/export could be better, and I wish I knew the way to get it to default to the "reduce file size" Quartz filter on PDF export. Also, I'd like to be able to export to a useful HTML format; presumably, somebody could write a Keynote/S5 converter, but if they did it before the file format were really fixed, they'd just get hosed over by the next format change.

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    9. Re:My breakdown... by Glock27 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yonah will be slow enough already. The vast, VAST majority of Mac software will be emulated for 2006 and will be slower than current Apple laptops.

      I've seen this incorrect information in more than one place. It's not emulation, it's on-the-fly translation. It is not painfully slow, and some of that software will run substantially faster on the new notebooks than on the old G4s.

      Native x86 software, of course, will be faster still.

      I'm getting an Intel Powerbook as soon as I'm reasonably sure there aren't design/manufacturing issues.

      Yonah is hot, power hungry, 32bit, and has pathetic floating point performance.

      Not one of these points is correct. Nice job.

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    10. Re:My breakdown... by PPGMD · · Score: 1
      1. Widescreen X86 iBook - This one is obviously going to happen, but probably not now. Apple will drop 4:3 format entirely, as will the rest of the world (showing they are, as always, technology leaders). They just won't cannibalize Powerbook sales with iBooks until they have milked it long enough.

      Apple wouldn't be a leader there, just about every other company has a wide screen laptop, I think Apple is one of the few that doesn't.

    11. Re:My breakdown... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. TiBook. Welcome to 2001.

    12. Re:My breakdown... by HuguesT · · Score: 1

      Yes, but Apple is screwed. Apple notebooks sales used to drive the company, now that everyone is waiting for Intel, everyone also acknowledges that the powerbook/iBook lines are way underpowered. Yet people with powerbooks by and large need the pro apps, such as the Adobe line.

      These won't be coming in Intel form for months. I would expect a last speed bump on the PBs to bring them close to 2GHz, and an Intel iBook. They'll look great and have better raw performance than the PBs for a while, but they won't run the 3rd party pro apps satisfactorily, so they won't cannibalise PB sales to come. PB owners will wait a few more months for an even more powerful Intel chip (64-bit, dual core), and the pro apps to come with them, such as Adobe CS3.

      iBooks owner will have to weather the brunt of the conversion to Intel. For a long while they will have precious few apps to run, except very slowly through Rosetta. It will be a nice laptop with few apps (unless they dual-boot to Windows!) I don't think it can be very successful just now. In 6-12 months it will be a different story.

      Apple has money in the bank, they can weather the next hard few months. This upcoming iBooks is going to be more of a tech preview laptop than a real product. Expect fanzine to be full of impressive synthetic benchmarks, whipping up a huge frenzy for when the Intel PB line is finally released.

      Having a real Intel product available also means Apple can put pressure on 3rd party software houses to release Intel version of their software, as there will be demand, and more readily available development platforms.

    13. Re:My breakdown... by tcampb01 · · Score: 1
      1. Widescreen X86 iBook - This one is obviously going to happen, but probably not now. Apple will drop 4:3 format entirely, as will the rest of the world (showing they are, as always, technology leaders). They just won't cannibalize Powerbook sales with iBooks until they have milked it long enough.
      And I would ordinarily agree with you... come out with the newest & best features in the high-end products first, then introduce those features in the lower-end models later. That way people who were teetering on which version to buy will have to shell out more cash for the high-end items if they want those features. Those that refuse to shell out more will bide their time, but buy the low-end version later and Apple still eventually gets all the sales.

      But Apple doesn't seem to think that way. Examples:

      • Apple came out with the Nano before releasing the iPod Video -- the rapid succession in the introduction of these models makes it clear that they were both ready at about the same time. Had the new video version come out first, those high-end users would probably not have bought a nano. By doing things backward, they've sold a pile of Nanos to users who turned right around and bought the new high-end Video.
      • Apple has "wired" and "wireless" (bluetooth) versions of their keyboard & mouse, but users have been asking for a mouse with more than just one button for years. Apple releases one... but it has a cord; wireless isn't an option. I think they will come out with a bluetooth version of the Mighty Mouse, but not until after they've milked the sales of the corded version (and I think the time is ripe... no rumors for it though, but I wont be surprised if it happens).

      I can think of several others. Apple seems to boost their low-end models first and my own personal observation (without doing a study) is that it seems so consistent that I now count on it.

      Steve Jobs seems to understand that a fundamental difference between those on a budget and those with money to burn -- those on the budget will buy the item just once. Those with money to burn will buy the same item over and over again -- and he milks that for all it's worth.

      Oh... and as for the BT Remote... no way. That's a 1000:1 longshot. They've already quietly introduced the new iPod "Universal Dock" that has an IR remote sensor and they also now separately sell the IR control that comes with the iMac. That very same control in conjunction with the universal dock will let you control your iPod or iPod video from across the room (actually it's quite nice to sit across the room with your iPod video connected to a TV and be able to fully control it as a player. There's no way Apple will introduce a BT version of the remote until they introduce iPods with builtin BlueTooth -- something else they'll probably eventually do.

    14. Re:My breakdown... by godawful · · Score: 1

      the way i imagine it'll have to go down is like this, single core for ibooks, dual core for powerbooks. as we know, most pro apps aren't anywhere near being a universal binary. that being said, a dual core processor is going to be so many times faster then the current powerbooks, i would expect rosetta to emulate pro apps at least at the current performance of todays powerbooks, if not maybe a little faster?

      at least then, you could order a powerbook today, with maybe a 5% increase in speed (in comparison to the app running native on a ppc powerbook) but you'd know in the future that you would be getting a _huge_ increase in speed.

      this is the only way i can imagine it going down. i've never seen rosetta in action, and i know they claim 80% of native speeds, but i just can't imagine that.. but heck, if that were true, then a dual core yonah powerbook running photoshop in emulation would be faster then todays top of the line powerbook, or at least darn close.

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    15. Re:My breakdown... by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

      Not if you use Pro apps. Those will not run on an X86 until a universal binary ships. Until then, users of the Pro apps from Apple will have to use a G4 powerbook.

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    16. Re:My breakdown... by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One thing you can bet on is that 10.5 will be released simultaneously with their first Intel-based machine. You'd be crazy to bet that the latter can happen before the former. What would it run? There won't be a 10.4X86....

    17. Re:My breakdown... by hunterx11 · · Score: 1

      They will run in Rosetta, though. That may be pretty slow, but frankly so is a G4 at this point.

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    18. Re:My breakdown... by be-fan · · Score: 1

      This is highly unlikely to happen. The first Intel machines are supposed to be released by mid-to-late next year. 10.5 won't see the light of day until late 2006.

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    19. Re:My breakdown... by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "PB owners will wait a few more months for an even more powerful Intel chip (64-bit, dual core), and the pro apps to come with them, such as Adobe CS3."

      There are enough other PB buyers to make it worthwhile to release the PowerBook now, rather than waiting. The powerbook is not limited to graphics people, it's also a business machine, a grownup machine. People put too much weight on the "pro" rhetoric as if the powerbook was only sold to design and video pros and EVERYBODY else buys the iBook. Not true.

      The pro apps users will be stuck waiting either way, and if Apple ships a PB, they'd be able to buy an Intel PB after the 1st release kinks have been ironed out, and possibly with a better processor.

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    20. Re:My breakdown... by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      Apple's had widescreen laptops for years. I think your parent post was saying they'd be the first to drop 4:3 entirely. Hence the world "entirely" contained therein.

    21. Re:My breakdown... by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

      They will not run if they require Altivec which Rosetta does not emulate IIRC.

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    22. Re:My breakdown... by MojoStan · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Am I the only one who thinks that apple will just release a non-yonah based ibook.?

      No, me too. I think we are the only two.

      I mean they want to have differentiation between the consumer and pro models. Why not release the ibook with "similar" specs to the current powerbooks with celeron or lowend pentium m processors? This will prevent major cannabalization of the current powerbook lines and allow them to release the yonah based powerbooks as the pro model they really are.

      There will be a single single-core version of Yonah at launch and this might be a good candidate for the iBook (with PowerBooks being dual-core). However, at $209, the single-core Yonah seems a bit expensive for a "low end" notebook. In a few months, Intel will likely release Celeron M CPUs based on the Yonah core (single core), but with a lower FSB (533MHz vs 667Mhz) and less L2 cache (1MB vs 2MB). These would be way too late for a MacWorld announcement.

      I think there's a very good chance that the current Dothan-based Celeron M will be used in the new iBooks (and maybe Mac minis) that are expected at MacWorld. Based on the current Pentium M core (but with lower FSB and L2 cache), the Celeron M is cheap, fast, and runs cool.

      The current Celeron M does lack SSE3 support and many people think SSE3 will be required for the new Intel Macs. However, I think this assumption might be false and is based on the fact that the Dev Kit version of OS X for Intel requires SSE3 (the Dev Kit CPU has SSE3). Since the Dev Kit version was only intended to be used on one CPU, and SSE3 is off by default in XCode, I suspect that SSE2 will be enough for the official release of OS X on Intel.

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    23. Re:My breakdown... by toddestan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apple's had widescreen laptops for years. I think your parent post was saying they'd be the first to drop 4:3 entirely. Hence the world "entirely" contained therein.

      Except that they would not be first. I checked a random PC laptop vender (Sony) and they don't have any non-widescreen models at the moment. Sorry.

    24. Re:My breakdown... by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's cool. I'm a Sony fanboy too.

  15. I predict by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 4, Funny
    It will be white and the name will begin with "i".

    I'm sure they'll keep flogging the iPod cash cow; maybe an iPod portable DVD player?

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    1. Re:I predict by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shouldn't that have been "iPredict"?

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    2. Re:I predict by razorguy0 · · Score: 1

      I predict the intel macs will be black.

    3. Re:I predict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that would be quite an interesting occurance, and now that you say it, im looking forward to it! :D

    4. Re:I predict by vertinox · · Score: 1

      maybe an iPod portable DVD player?

      You mean like the iPod video?

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    5. Re:I predict by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 1

      by "flogging the iPod cash cow" you mean "release smaller, lighter, cheaper and longer battery life versions of an already very well designed and popular product?

      I agree.

    6. Re:I predict by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      I wasn't aware you flogged cash cows. Dead horses maybe, but cows...you milk those, don't you?

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    7. Re:I predict by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Given the slang definition of "flog", I don't think I'd want to be flogging either dead horses or cows.

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    8. Re:I predict by lowid+(24)+_________ · · Score: 1

      Except it will play DVDs, be two inches wide, and be 25% thinner than the ipod video.

    9. Re:I predict by pretentiousPPC · · Score: 1

      Come on what about black??

      Imagine a Powerbook/iBook in all black much like the new iPods, with a silver Apple right in the middle. That could look pretty sweet! Anyone with some Photoshops being passed out like this yet?

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  16. How will we know? by tcoady · · Score: 2, Informative
    According to macrumors.com there will be a blackout:

    Thank you for your email. A replay will be available on http://www.apple.com/quicktime/mac.html, but there are no plans for live streaming.


    1. Re:How will we know? by boomerny · · Score: 1

      I thought the reason for no streaming was that Apple was using HD cameras and to stream would be too much bandwidth. After the keynote they encode using h264 and then distribute the file. I could be way off though.

    2. Re:How will we know? by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      On pro hardware, you can convert it to SD or lower realtime and stream it. In fact they are missing a great chance of "real life" tests on quicktime server which is called expensive by media pros.

      For example, if I was a real networks salesman, when the business asks "reliability", I'd point him/her to bbc.co.uk .

    3. Re:How will we know? by tcoady · · Score: 1

      Are you saying Apple does not have the tech to encode H264 in real time? I seem to remember a time when live was available but I think that predated the H264 streams.

    4. Re:How will we know? by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 1

      I love the BBC but when it comes to clicking on one of their video feeds I'm more surprised when it actually works than when it times out.

  17. iLife and iWork '05 for Intel by _|()|\| · · Score: 1

    As nice as it would be to see iLife '06, I think there will first be a universal version of iLife '05 and iWork '05. That way Apple can grow the market for paid upgrades to iLife '06.

  18. Well, my G5 is going on eBay by chipset · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well, with the odds being so good, I plan on selling my G5 2.0. I have been waiting for this, as if the laptops are truly coming, I can quit using my ThinkPad for work.

    I am excited, can't wait. This week is CES, next week Macs. Whoohoo!

    1. Re:Well, my G5 is going on eBay by theolein · · Score: 0, Troll

      Makes two of us. I'm pretty certain that Apple will bring out either new iBooks or new Powerbooks next week. I'm really hoping it'll be Powerbooks, but realistically it'll probably be iBooks, but I don't care. I need an x86 machine right now and that will save me a whole shitload of cash in that I'll only need one machine instead of two.

    2. Re:Well, my G5 is going on eBay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I can't wait to see the reactions of clowns like you a year from now!" Likewise. You'll be eating a LOT of crow!

  19. new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean if I buy one I will get laid for certain?

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    1. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 1

      iDon'tthinkso.

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    2. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by sqrt(2) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not for certain, but I'd give you 3.1x10^8 to 1.

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    3. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by Heembo · · Score: 1

      Talking about your genetalia or your need to get laid on Slashdot DECREASES your chance of actully getting any by over 50%.

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    4. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      What is 50% of zero?

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    5. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by Heembo · · Score: 1

      Excellent question! That would be ZERO. The second rule of Slashdot is to keep your pr0nish ideas to yourself!

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    6. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by javaxman · · Score: 1
      Does this mean if I buy one I will get laid for certain?

      absolutely not. If owning any sort of computer ever does get you laid, get the woman's number and ask her to marry you... I guess...

      Most likely, your new Mac will get laid, and thing will pretty well stay the same for you.

    7. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50% of 0 is undefined. get your math straight!

    8. Re:new and sexy Intel Mac Minis and iBooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell are you talking about? 50% of 0 can be expressed as:
      0 * 0.5
      which evaluates to 0. There are no undefined values or illegal operations there. Go back to elementary school.

  20. Jobs is the Anti Buddha by warmcat · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Sakyamuni taught that primordial Ignorance (avidya) produces Desire-to-be (trishna), unsatisfied Desire is the cause of life, and life results in old age, disease and death, i.e., Suffering (dukkha). To overcome Suffering, therefore, it is necessary to escape the Cycle of life and death; to escape the Cycle of life and death, it is necessary to extinguish Desire; and to extinguish Desire, it is necessary to destroy Ignorance.

    http://www.dharmafellowship.org/library/essays/fou rteen-fundamental-buddhist-tenets.htm

    Curious how Jobs being buddhist, he is responsible for such slavering of desire (according to the above, amongst the 'ignorant') in the products he works to create. I wonder if he tries to reconcile this in some consumerist branch of Buddhism.

    Attaining Great Awakening (maha-bodhi), the Buddha Sakyamuni realized four profound insights: namely, that all created phenomena are impermanent; that due to the mutable impermanence of phenomena, all created phenomena must result eventually only in suffering; that there is no independent absolute 'I'; and that the seeker of Truth can transcend created existence and attain, through spiritual practice and mystical contemplation, a supreme state of peace called Nirvana.

    Hm it seems doubtful Apple products are actually the path to spiritual awakening.

    1. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by WinterSolstice · · Score: 1

      Actually, that is an interesting point - as I would identify mostly as a Theravada Buddhist myself (as well as a Mac user) we could certainly have some interesting fun arguing this one - not as much the place Jobs holds in this, but certainly the place things like iPods and such should hold.

      Could be interesting :)

      -WS

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    2. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if he tries to reconcile this in some consumerist branch of Buddhism.

      Neo-buddhism. Ha!

    3. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 5, Informative

      ". I wonder if he tries to reconcile this in some consumerist branch of Buddhism."

      Buddhism has a tenet known as "right livelihood", and for a layman selling consumer products doesn't violate it. Things like being a butcher, or selling intoxicants, or selling weapons would, but not the selling of computers, regardless of how pre-expo rumors can have a seemingly intoxicating effect on Mac fans.

      Technically, it's the users doing it to themselves.

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    4. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by paiute · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Buddha would tell us that anyone who goes on about Buddhaism for more than two sentences is to be ignored because they do not get it.

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    5. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did you hear that Jobs is a Buddhist? I"m not seeing a reference to it on Wikipedia. I saw one link suggesting he is Lutheran.

    6. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by kickdown · · Score: 0

      > Curious how Jobs being buddhist, he is responsible for such slavering of desire
      > (according to the above, amongst the 'ignorant') in the products he works to
      > create. I wonder if he tries to reconcile this in some consumerist branch of
      > Buddhism.

      He is afraid of not being re-born because he is a too nice guy. Selling all this desire-pleasing stuff is his re-life insurance.

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    7. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Steve Jobs create desire or create a product? I have a desire to respond to the post you created; you are, therefore, also an anti-Buddha by your own, flawed defintion.

    8. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by KH · · Score: 1

      I would mod you insightful if I had mod points. That certainly was the point of Nagarjuna even though he spent lot more than two sentences, hoping that people would get it, but even after him, a lot about Buddhism, even including about what he meant to say, was written, which shows we never get it.

    9. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by kfg · · Score: 1

      . . .selling intoxicants . . . would. . .

      Bingo!

      KFG

    10. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by warmcat · · Score: 1

      > Where did you hear that Jobs is a Buddhist? I"m not seeing a
      > reference to it on Wikipedia. I saw one link suggesting he is
      > Lutheran.

      Here is a list of Buddhists on Wikipedia, Ctrl-F in your browser and search for Jobs.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buddhists

      Google has plenty of references to it including everything2:

      http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=17468

    11. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by dr.badass · · Score: 4, Informative

      Curious how Jobs being buddhist, he is responsible for such slavering of desire (according to the above, amongst the 'ignorant') in the products he works to create

      I think you're misreading Buddhism. The Desire and Ignorance spoken of in the passage you quoted are personal in scope. One quenches his own desire, destroys his own ignorance, and thus (eventually) relieves his own suffering.

      The desire for the product exists in the individual consumer, who is his own responsibility. Do people really blame Steve Jobs for somehow forcing them to desire things? If you're "suffering" from desire for an iPod, that's your own damn problem.

      That said, it is wrong conduct to scheme and pursue gain for it's own sake, and one could argue that these are unavoidable for the CEO of a large corporation, but I suppose that's up to the adherent to decide.

      Hm it seems doubtful Apple products are actually the path to spiritual awakening.

      Who ever claimed they were?

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    12. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by torpor · · Score: 1

      well i haven't read much Nagarjuna, if any at all, and i agree with him, so maybe .. i get it?

      [what is it, btw, and is it pretty?]

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    13. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      Curious how Jobs being buddhist, he is responsible for such slavering of desire (according to the above, amongst the 'ignorant') in the products he works to create. I wonder if he tries to reconcile this in some consumerist branch of Buddhism.

      I think the really serious Buddhists are working at other consumer products companies. Why? Because their stuff is crappy enough that their only possible goal is to help you realize the hollowness of desiring after material things. Best Buy is practically a Buddhist temple: every time I go in there I learn how completely stupid my urge to make impulse purchases is.

    14. Re:Jobs is the Anti Buddha by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


      Probably not, actually.

      Zen likes to talk about people being enlightened by the sight of a flower, or the sound of a pebble, but if true those are exceptions. But that's Zen, which arguably suffered the most distortion and romanticization in the West, thanks to hippies and beatniks.

      Zen does discount the utility of poring over doctrine and texts, but there are limits. A minimal instruction on the eightfold path takes more than two sentences.

      Enlightenment may well strike suddenly, but realistically that only happens after years and years of meditation practice, and it's going to take more than two sentences to persuade anybody to spend years of their life sitting on a cushion.

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  21. Two Things by webword · · Score: 1

    1. The "Big Dance" link is broken on the ZDNet site. Here's what you want... (Macworld!)

    2. Who's "Jason the Greek"? No dice on my initial search. Do I live in a cave? (You don't have to answer that.)

    1. Re:Two Things by webword · · Score: 1

      By the way, I *was* kidding. Obviously Jason D. O'Grady is Greek . ;-)

  22. Typo? by Mortimer82 · · Score: 1

    Isn't:
    "Gentlemen, start you credit cards."

    Meant to be:
    "Gentlemen, start your credit cards."?

    1. Re:Typo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All you typo are belong to us

    2. Re:Typo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it probbaly is. What's your point?

    3. Re:Typo? by kalbzayn · · Score: 1

      Maybe it is supposed to be: Gentlemen, start, you credit cards. Maybe he has a low opinion of credit cards and comparing people to credit cards is a good insult.

  23. Intel Integrated Graphics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd bet a wad of cash that, assuming they're introduced at MacWorld, both the new Mac Mini and iBook will sport Intel Integrated graphics.

    I know game performance isn't exactly up to snuff on the Mac but I certainly don't think such a move would help the matter.

    1. Re:Intel Integrated Graphics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt that, only because I don't think the integrated graphics would be adequate for Tiger's eye candy.

    2. Re:Intel Integrated Graphics by Glock27 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I doubt that, only because I don't think the integrated graphics would be adequate for Tiger's eye candy.

      Your doubts are unfounded, the demo Jobs gave at the Intel announcement WWDC were all on a desktop box with integrated graphics - identical to all the x86 development boxes that've been sent out.

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    3. Re:Intel Integrated Graphics by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


      That would help keep the price down - they'd probably get the whole Centrino bundle of CPU, graphics, and wireless.

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    4. Re:Intel Integrated Graphics by pyros · · Score: 1
      they'd probably get the whole Centrino bundle of CPU, graphics, and wireless

      The Centrino branding applies to CPU, chipset, and wireless. I have a Centrino branded laptop without an integrated video chip (Ati Fire GL v5000).

    5. Re:Intel Integrated Graphics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really doubt that will happen.

      Too much time has been invested in Quartz Extreme. 10.4 was supposed to have improved QE (QE2D), but it is disabled by default because of unresolved bugs. The OS X UI *crawls* and eats even more ram if it draws without OpenGL hardware, its even fairly sluggish without QE.
      If the intel chips support hardware OpenGL and QE... Maybe. Although if I remember correctly their chips use the system RAM for VRAM making it slow as molasses ( Correct me if I'm wrong... ).

      Apple is all about the experience. They aren't going to release laptops ( Their biggest Mac market ) with slow UI.
      The Mac mini I might believe. I still see it as unlikely unless Intel forces them to do it.

      On a completely unrelated topic... Firefox really needs to support the OS X in-line spell check. I'm used to using it in every app.
      I right click to spell check in Firefox constantly, forgetting it doesn't support it.
      Bah.

  24. Moby Cock? by stuffedmonkey · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Great user name for the submitter. I guess Dirty Sanchez was already taken? Way to get over on slashdot...

  25. MacworldExpo.com is hosted on several Windows 2003 by Mr.+Kimba · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just wanted to throw that into the mix. Useless info, with humor

    http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /macworldexpo.com

  26. Inconsistencies... by djrogers · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, a sexy new Intel based mac mini seems likely, but in light of that why are they only giving 10:1 odds on an iLife/Frontrow upgrade? It seems the new mini would be the perfect platform to add PVR functionality to, but with no upgrades/additions to iLife, it seems the new minis would move from a killer living room appliance to a minor curiousity...

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  27. What the analysts say by tcoady · · Score: 1
    According to http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?siteid=m ktw&guid=%7BB8A0FFA0-3461-4A1D-94C9-FD2D0F8B1CB2%7 D&
    analysts are guessing that Jobs will unveil at least one of the following: a new iPod Shuffle, a PC that runs on Intel Corp. chips or an iMac PC that acts much like a digital television tuner and recorder.
  28. "Journalism" by mblase · · Score: 2, Informative

    How will we know?

    Major and minor Mac news sites like Macintouch and MacNN always have someone in the audience blogging the Apple presentation in real time. Lately Apple's been blocking wi-fi connections during the presentation, but you still get the information immediately after it's over.

    1. Re:"Journalism" by tcoady · · Score: 1

      thanks - those are useful sites to monitor for those without live acccess although they usually get saturated during the speech - maybe they should set up coralised links to themselves?

  29. A great technological marvel by The+Benjamin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    After 15 years of being scooped by the Windows world: a two button mouse STANDARD on every computer.

    1. Re:A great technological marvel by rjstanford · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd be happy if it was offered as a two-button mouse on the powerbook, personally. Everything else is easy enough to swap out - and I could even see keeping it to one-button on the iSeries. But I'd like a two-button on my next OSX laptop.

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    2. Re:A great technological marvel by Mercano · · Score: 1

      Without a two button setup, Apple will seriously cripple thier hardware's compatibility with other x86 operating systems (read: Windows), which is a big selling point with MacTel systems. On a desktop, you just get a third party mouse, but its sorta hard to replace a notebook's trackpad.

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    3. Re:A great technological marvel by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have never seen a laptop that had two hardware buttons and was comfortable to use.

      the best solution is something like SideTrack which lets you use your trackpad as up to 5 buttons and 2 scrollbars.

      plus the design of only *needing* 1 buttons is great.

    4. Re:A great technological marvel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Darn, flamebait for saying the truth in an Apple article, who would have thought it?

      Attention zealots who are not getting the point, don't bother with the "OMG YOU CANN USE ANOTHER MOOSE!!!111!!stevejobs11!!" Until a two button mouse is a standard on Apple's computers instead of those crummy one button ones that ship by default, they are still going to be considered one button mouse computers.

    5. Re:A great technological marvel by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      I have never seen a laptop that had two hardware buttons and was comfortable to use.

      Well, 99% of the time I just click the trackpad when I want to use the left mouse button. I guess the question is, which is easier, hitting a new right mouse button below the pad and to the right... or holding down a meta-key while clicking? I'd say that the former would win in all but the strangest situations.

      Then again, one interesting possibility would be to remap the large physical button to "right-click" if I could do that and keep the typepad-click as left-click. Unfortunately I've never seen a way to do this - it may be that this is handled in hardware and the system cannot differentiate between the two types of click even in the driver.

      plus the design of only *needing* 1 buttons is great.

      Sure. And you only need 1024x768 too. That doesn't mean that I want to plan my hardware purchases around a lowest-common-denominator need. I want the ability to do a "right-click" with a single keypress, especially when using software like Eclipse that takes extensive advantage of it. I'm willing to pay extra for the powerBook in order to do this. All I'm saying is that I'd like the option.

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  30. Probably not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple will also add video support to the nano line via a firmware upgrade to boost sales of TV shows and video content

    Has Apple ever given away software updates that adds functionality for free? What makes these guys think they would do that this time?

    1. Re:Probably not... by Chucker23N · · Score: 2, Insightful

      O'Grady is, as always, full of crap. The iPod nano has no video compression/decompression chip as the iPod with video does, and the PortalPlayer chipset it comes with doesn't do real-time decoding of H.264. Supplying such a feature via firmware is impossible.

    2. Re:Probably not... by lostngone · · Score: 0

      You might want to tell this to the people that are working on ipod linux. Seeing that they have already gotten video playback working on the Nano you might be a little late in telling them it won't work.

    3. Re:Probably not... by Chucker23N · · Score: 1

      You obviously missed the part where I specifically referred to *real-time* playback of *H.264*. The iPod Linux video implementation neither supports MPEG-4 (let alone H.264), nor will it probably ever be efficient enough to support real-time at such complex codecs.

  31. Yipee! A non event by bms20 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Great, I can't wait. The droning on of mac users about how "great" their system is, and how its "so much better" than Windows is what I look forward to.

    I guess sales of aluminum polish and cleaning products will go up, and worldwide productivity down.

    -Brett

  32. BT Mighty Mouse by HogGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Personally, I'm hoping for a BT Mighty Mouse.

    He doesn't bring that up, or do most think it is so insignifigant, that it doesn't rate being mentioned.

    1. Re:BT Mighty Mouse by John+Muir · · Score: 1

      I think he'd throw it in, even if they unveil half a entire new range of Macs, simply because it would add to the already sizeable RDF effect such an event produces! The keynote equivalent of machinegun fire.

      If it doesn't come out at an event, it'll be a webpage announcement instead like the original, which I happily use having bought that very day.

      Plays well with my old PC too actually, plenty enough buttons and precision for Battlefield 2. Shame there's no windows driver to take advantage of the sidescroll though. That's a killer feature on Tiger.

  33. Huh? by macwhizkid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Interesting speculation, but a lot of it just doesn't quite add up.

    -The AirPort "Ultra" would "be able to stream video to your TV - in High Definition". Where is all this HD content coming from? Not from the iTMS, not from DVDs. Assuming this AirPort is running 802.11g, streaming HD content is iffy at best. Apple is known for making things easy. I don't see how this could possibly fly as a consumer product. Maybe in another year or two, with faster WiFi and more HD content.

    -Jason reckons that the Intel PowerBooks won't be released because (despite all the engineering done) not all the pro software is written yet for Intel, and Rosetta emulation just isn't fun. But then his #1 prediction is for Intel iBooks? Doesn't make sense to me.

    -Why are iLife & iWork updates so unlikely (10% and 4% odds, respectively)? Unless Apple is just willing to let this software die (unlikely given relations with Microsoft), this is practically a given. Maybe not until summer, but the odds of an announcement or mention are more likely on the order of 50% - 75%, IMO.

    Sorry, I'm just not buying it. Guess I'll wait until next week to find out for sure.

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      iBooks have never been the professional line of portables. So the lack of professional apps would not be a deal breaker for x86 ibooks.

      I'm going with the article, and expecting to see x86 ibooks. We'll see what happens.

  34. oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what do the women start?

  35. I'm holding out for by metamatic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mac OS X 10.6 Liger.

    Known for its skills in magic.

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    1. Re:I'm holding out for by b1t+r0t · · Score: 1
      Mac OS X 10.6 Liger.

      Mac OS X 9.3 Sabretooth

      Known for its skills in magic.

      Known for being a fossil.

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    2. Re:I'm holding out for by CaseOfThaMondays · · Score: 1

      hey that sounds familar, oh yeah, thats cause:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=123 71459 - from when 10.4 was released

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    3. Re:I'm holding out for by chris_eineke · · Score: 1

      Mac OS X 10.6 Giger

      For those with really fucked up sexual fetishes. Perfect for the Apple crowd. :P

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    4. Re:I'm holding out for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. That is awsome. You must be, like the first person to ever reference Napoleon Dynamite. I'm totally citing you for all future references. You rock dude!

    5. Re:I'm holding out for by CaseOfThaMondays · · Score: 1

      Im not the first to reference ND, but the first to refer to an OS X release with a ND reference. I'll take credit for that. I was just pointing out that the post was a paraphased version of mine from a while back, so relax AC.

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    6. Re:I'm holding out for by javaxman · · Score: 1

      I'm still getting over the fact that Ligers are real. I was not prepared for that.

    7. Re:I'm holding out for by pomo+monster · · Score: 1

      "Im ... the first to refer to an OS X release with a [Napoleon Dynamite] reference"

      You sure? The comment's not that original, you know.

    8. Re:I'm holding out for by CaseOfThaMondays · · Score: 1

      i cant be 100%, but can you find an earlier reference? a link that predates mine? i dont care who said it first, either great minds think alike, or he just saw mine and remembered it. but the AC was just an @$$ for being rude about it.

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    9. Re:I'm holding out for by metamatic · · Score: 1

      I don't think I've posted it before, but I came up with it independently in conversation with friends. Yours was good, though... working in the bit about 'stability'.

      Yeah, the AC was an ass. This is Slashdot, recycling geeky in-jokes is the norm. We like it that way, it means we know when to laugh. If you want something more original from me, read my web site or something.

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  36. And since they're former Sony... by doublem · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since we're talking about former SONY engineers, the new laptops will also be riddled with even MORE DRM and a few rootkits thrown in for good measure.

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  37. SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's hoping that the new Mac Minis, whenever they arrive, have a few specific improvements:

    1) Optical Audio (we want surround sound!)
    2) Better DVD playback software (for a UI centered company like Apple, "DVD Player" program blows donkey wang)
    3) RF receiver (for my kick ass universal remote, or maybe Apple can make a bluetooth+RF remote)
    4) Better support for my TV (having to use VNC to set it up is beyond most people)

    I've been using a Mac Mini as my entertainment hub for a while now (almost a year), and its great. DVDs, AVI and WM files, ITunes though my stereo, internet surfing on my HD TV, flash, movie previews, games; the list goes on and on. Its quiet, low power, wakes quickly, and does what I want it to do.

    Oh, and can you guys please make it so I can autohide the menu bar? You know, like the dock can do.

    1. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Richard+W.M.+Jones · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Better DVD playback software (for a UI centered company like Apple, "DVD Player" program blows donkey wang)

      A DVD player which doesn't moan about regions and doesn't prevent you from skipping would be a good start. I know about VLC and MPlayer OS X, but they don't work well on all DVDs. I have Region 1 DVDs which I can't even play on my Mac, but which work fine on my Linux box. This isn't the way it's supposed to be ...

      Rich.

    2. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by metamatic · · Score: 1

      FYI, you can use any Bluetooth cell phone as a remote.

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    3. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1
      Oh, and can you guys please make it so I can autohide the menu bar? You know, like the dock can do.

      But that would be copying a feature from MS Windows. What would the Fanboy Police say?

      Except try to claim that the way Apple hide the menu is inherently better (just because! ok?) than the way the Windows task bar is hidden.

    4. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 1

      are you retarded?

      the dock can already autohide. making another gui component autohide isn't a brand new feature requiring development of new technology or ripping off ideas.

      you aren't a patent lawyer are you?

    5. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by EnglishDude · · Score: 1

      I doubt it's "any" - I've got a bluetooth equipped Nokia 6310i (think ancient black and white with pixels as big as dinner plates) and I'd be extremely surprised if I could use it to control my Mac. I think it's mainly Sony Ericsson phones that can do it.

    6. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main reason not to do this is that it is a stupid idea.
      15 minutes of reading about user interface design, and you should understand why.

    7. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Whatchamacallit · · Score: 4, Informative

      The region issue and unskippable portions have to due with the DVD standard to which the DVD Player 'complies'. The content creator puts those lockdowns in there. i.e. MPIAA, production studio, etc. There are ways around those features but then you are breaking the law... Apple has to comply to those features or they will loose their ability to distribute the DVD player at all (they license the codes to unlock DVD's). DVDJon wrote DeCSS so he could simply 'play' DVD's under Linux with a side effect that you can also copy the DVD. DeCSS makes it possible to unlock a DVD without the authorized license codes. Therefore, it bypasses the DVD standard controls. DeCSS is included in most Linux systems so that's why it works so well for you.

    8. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by bloodstains · · Score: 1

      Really? I havn't been able to find software to do this with my Motorola RAZR V3. If you know where there is software that can do this please let me know. I'd even be willing to pay a (reasonable) fee. Thanks.

    9. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What player are you using on Linux that you can't use on OS X?

    10. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

      The main reason not to do this is that it is a stupid idea.

      The single most important thing that I look for in *any* toolset is whether it gets out of my way when I'm not using it. What I want is to most efficiently use the screen real estate for my content, not for what controls my content.

      And lets face it, vanishing controls aren't a new idea. The dock does it, and I use the dock far more than I use the menu bar. I'm sure some people need to reassurance that the menu bar hasn't taken a trip to Tahiti with the dock and the DVD control panel, but I don't. I'm betting that most people don't either.

      15 minutes of reading about user interface design, and you should understand why.

      Um, ok. You would have been more convincing if you had actually cited any resource which said so, or elucidated some of the UI "rules" which might argue against it. As it is you come off sounding like a troll. You should try to be convincing rather than derogatory. In any case I remain convinced that my rules ("convenient, not contusive" & "minimal yet complete") are reasonable.

      Oh, and I write drivers for a living, so I don't have the slightest inkling what I'm talking about when it comes to UI design. I am, however a user, which means I know what sucks. An ever-present menu bar that I never use == the suck. An (optionally) auto-hiding dock == no suckie.

      Thanks for playing,
      -SpeedBump

    11. Re: SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by gidds · · Score: 1
      If you haven't tried VLC recently, it might be worth another look. It used to be extremely flaky, but the last couple of versions have made great improvements and I find it very solid now. Still more to be done, of course -- DVD menus in particular are a bit quirky. But it seems perfectly usable now on pretty much all of my DVDs (including a couple of Region-1s); I think I resorted to Apple's one only once or twice last year.

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    12. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Specifically, read some of the things Tog has written on the Dock and Fitt's Law.
      Generally, Alan Cooper is worth reading.
      More generally, try Donald Norman's writings.

      As "a user", you may know what sucks. That doesn't mean you know how to fix it.

    13. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by metamatic · · Score: 1

      OS X 10.4 has support for Bluetooth remotes built in.

      http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2005/01/using_a_s ony_ericsson_k700i_mobile_phone_to_remote_control_ your_mac_os_x_1035/

      It might require some kind of Bluetooth profile that your Motorola doesn't support. I remember the Bluetooth setup assistant asked me about it when I paired my Sony Ericsson Z520a.

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    14. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Richard+W.M.+Jones · · Score: 1
      mplayer on Linux. MPlayer OS X 2 on Mac OS X seems to be a fork and won't play the same DVDs. The most recent DVD I had problems with was Tom Hank's vehicle "From the Earth to the Moon". Another is "Onibaba" Criterion Collection version. Legally purchased DVDs which I can't play ... I blame the stupid DVD consortium of course.

      Rich.

    15. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but you're not a typical user. 99.999% of OS X users are using the menu bar all the freakin' time. The amount of QA they'd have to put into a hiding menu bar alone probably makes it not worthwhile, since maybe 3-4 people TOTAL would ever turn that option on.

    16. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1
      are you retarded?

      Yes, I am retarded.

      the dock can already autohide.

      As the original poster pointed out.

      making another gui component autohide isn't a brand new feature requiring development of new technology or ripping off ideas.

      Yet even in the depths of my retardedness, I know that Windows 95 supported auto-hiding of the taskbar when it was launched, which predates the OS X dock by a few years.

      So, thus armed with my retardedity, I made a satirical comment reflecting on the fact that whenever MS implements a feature after Apple, they are accused of photocopying, whereas whenever Apple implements a feature after MS, then they did it properly or better or some other rationalisation that lets the fanboys feel better about MS getting there first.

      you aren't a patent lawyer are you?

      No, I'm retarded. I think we've established that. But even with my pervasive retardosity, I still possess basic reading and comprehension skills, and a rudimentary knowledge of the history of GUI development in mainstream OSs.

      What if I were a lawyer? Were you going to do a lawyer joke?

      I can pretend to be a lawyer if it will help.

    17. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1
      Specifically, read some of the things Tog has written on the Dock and Fitt's Law.

      Wasn't Tog's complaint about the dock and Fitt's Law that the icons scale, and hence move about?

      Hiding the dock doesn't preclude the dock from exploiting Fitt's Law (at least to reveal it), because the dock still occupies the 'infinite' bottom edge of the screen, so you can throw the mouse down the bottom to reveal it without requiring any accuracy at all. (Similar arguments could be made for the OP's request to be able to hide the menu-bar. Especially as they were - as I understand it - asking for it in a media center sort of environment, where you're quite happy to put up with the issues of hiding the menu-bar if it means it's not permanently on display on your TV.)

      Obviously, hiding the dock (or Windows taskbar) still leaves you with issues, because you don't know where the UI elements will be until the dock is revealed, but that's not so much to do with Fitt's Law, really. Is it?

      I suppose you could argue that when the dock is hidden, that the sizes of the targets are infinitely small, which plugs into Fitt's Law, but I can't help feeling that's sort of cheating.

    18. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I meant to read his articles on the Dock _and_ his articles on Fitt's law.

      That said, check out:
      http://www.asktog.com/columns/022DesignedToGiveFit ts.html
      Question 4

      http://www.asktog.com/columns/044top10docksucks.ht ml
      Item 4

    19. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Gropo · · Score: 1
      Oh, and can you guys please make it so I can autohide the menu bar? You know, like the dock can do.
      Mr. Raskin, you can stop spinning in your grave. He was kidding. I hope.
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    20. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by Smartcowboy · · Score: 1

      5) Work with 30" cinema display

    21. Re:SpeedBump's Mini wishlist by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

      Excellent reading, thanks. I still maintain that an auto-hidable dock and menu bar are reasonable extentions. I like the idea of using corners as triggers rather than the whole screen edge. Both faster and less annoying. Maybe allow we to use the top left to trigger both the menu bar (top edge) and the dock (left edge).

      My problem with these writings WRT this discussion is that they tend to ignore the fact that UI isn't the *only* thing I want to do with my screen real estate. I'd like to select the balance that is right for me. Its garanteed to be different for you, and that's why it should be configurable.

  38. Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by Viewsonic · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I dont understand this. Tivo right now, works perfect. It is the iPod of DVRs. The only way this will be replaced by Apple is if Apple releases a machine that can do CableCard HDTV recordings - And do it as simple and elegantly as Tivo can. We have a problem here, for this sort of recording, people will be wanting 500 gig or so of space. I hardly think you're going to be sticking this much space in a Mac Mini.

    I just dont think Apple is going to make a DVR to actually compete with Tivo. Let alone "defeat it in one fell swoop!!#!11111!!!".

    Might they make DVR software for say, college kids and such? With a little dongle for cable input? Sure. But this would hardly make any waves in the DVR market.

    1. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by GauteL · · Score: 1

      Apple wouldn't release a system that can only replace the Tivo. They would release a system that can do more.

      A home entertainment system that can do video recording, DVD and music playing is something that has been done pretty shittily so far. If Apple can pull off a system that is as easy and usable as the iPod, then they will sell.

    2. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by wedding · · Score: 1

      Because currently Tivo's support for Apple users sucks nads. They've given up supporting AAC, TivoToGo directly, and have yet to release a standalone HDTivo. If the Mini can do it, and keep the price point _relatively_ low, they'll pick up the folks like me that have put their Tivos on the shelf and cancelled the contract.

    3. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by Goth+Biker+Babe · · Score: 1

      But Tivos have analog(ue) inputs!

      Where's the DVB-T Tivo? Using a Tivo by the time I play it back content that has been originally recorded on analogue video will have been encoded by the TV company, transmitted as DVB-T, decoded to analogue, encoded by the Tivo, decoded by the Tivo and finally output to my TV. Surely it's better to just rip the stream on to a harddrive.

      Next year, here in the UK, the BBC will be testing HD DVB-T via an Antenna. No subscription, just buy an appropriate terrestrial digital box. Or just hook a terrestrial digital tuner up to your Mac. No analog(ue) path what-so-ever.

    4. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by graffix_jones · · Score: 1

      Sure. But this would hardly make any waves in the DVR market.

      Funny... I remember people saying the same thing right after the iPod was announced (except switch "DVR" with "MP3 Player").

      There are several things I currently don't like about TiVO, which is what keeps me from buying one:

      1. The 'requirement' to subscribe to the TiVO network.
      2. The godawful ugly hardware.
      3. The requirement for a phone line hookup (our house is completely cellular).
      4. Lackluster (or nonexistent) Mac support.

      Now if Apple can address all of these concerns in a PVR (or DVR), then they'll have my money... and I tend to think that there's a lot of other people out there that feel this same way.

      Looks like this could be more than making waves (if it comes to fruition), it could be a tsunami, just like the iPod.

    5. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by Kitsune78 · · Score: 1

      Because Tivo is dropping the ball.. Updates few and far between that are intended to give me some limited interoperability between my Tivo and my PC and it's attached devices. Why all that middleman-type slow, unreliable communication? Let me store my MP3s and digital video files directly on the PVR. Let me hook my MP3 player up to it and sync up my podcasts. Let me burn DVDs and CDs straight from the box. Let me hook up external storage, and give it decent network throughput and actually let me access the damn thing over the network for moving my files around. Give it HD output/recording capability. With HD the resolution isn't bad, so let me use a bluetooth KB and mouse and surf the web on my TV. Give it some rudimentary gaming capability (Tetris type stuff). Okay, now I want all that in a small, somewhat stylish box that doesn't guzzle electricity. I also want a familiar interface, ease of use, and I want it to work out of the box. Also, I want a decent price point.. something just shy of all of the above put together (a bit of a package deal).. Looking around the only logical answers to the above are a Mac Mini PVR/Media Center, or an ITX/MicroATX MythTV box. The Mac would have the polished Apple interface and most likely not take me forever to set up. Tivo wants me to do everything through my PC and through their dreadfully slow network interface... plus they've closed the box and keep adding "features" that reduce its value to me (the "red flag" still makes an appearance on Fox channels for me.) Their new features are slow in coming, buggy, and slow. I was as rabid about Tivo as I was about Apple in the series 1 "Happy Hacking!" days. Now they repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot. I would happily throw all three of my Tivos out the window for an equal or greater Apple box if it would allow me to do things straight from the PVR, without the PC middleman.. and hopefully liveable or missing DRM (dreaming, I know.)

    6. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by Kitsune78 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Umm, not going to try to "convert" you, but I want to point out that a phone line hasn't been required for almost two years. In fact, my Tivos have never been on a phone line, and I wouldn't even know if the modems didn't work.

    7. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      I dont understand this. Tivo right now, works perfect.

      For the average person, who does not implement hacks or easter egg features that is not even close to correct.

      • No 30 second skip ahead or 10 second skip back.
      • No easy export to other devices like laptops.
      • No easy DVD/VCD burning without paying big bucks.
      • No editor to remove commercials.
      • No choice of scheduling services (why can't they use the free TitanTV service)?
      • Why can't it import my iTunes songs, store, and play them?
      • Why can't it use an external drive or network drive to store data?
      • No easy way to add/store/play home movies and slideshows of photos.
      • No easy way to buy shows that are not on any channel right now, like classic TV shows.
      • DRM allows broadcasters to restrict what I export and how long I can store a given show.

      Tivo does a lot of things right, but it also does not offer a lot of useful features. It also is very restrictive for the average user. Tivo seems to have sold out to the cable and satellite companies and I just don't trust them. They certainly haven't provided what I wanted so I went with someone who would. A lot of people would like the option to do the same.

    8. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by jay95 · · Score: 1

      I seriously doubt Apple will release DVR software/hardware itself. It goes against what they are trying to do with iTunes, IMO. And I'm sure the TV studios they have partnered with so far would pull out if they were to do this.

    9. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by djrogers · · Score: 1

              * No 30 second skip ahead or 10 second skip back.
              * No easy export to other devices like laptops.
              * No easy DVD/VCD burning without paying big bucks.
              * No editor to remove commercials.
              * No choice of scheduling services (why can't they use the free TitanTV service)?
              * Why can't it import my iTunes songs, store, and play them?
              * Why can't it use an external drive or network drive to store data?
              * No easy way to add/store/play home movies and slideshows of photos.
              * No easy way to buy shows that are not on any channel right now, like classic TV shows.
              * DRM allows broadcasters to restrict what I export and how long I can store a given show.

      Tivo does a lot of things right, but it also does not offer a lot of useful features. It also is very restrictive for the average user. Tivo seems to have sold out to the cable and satellite companies and I just don't trust them. They certainly haven't provided what I wanted so I went with someone who would. A lot of people would like the option to do the same.


      Based on the fact that about half of your objections above *CAN* in fact be done in a stand-alone TiVo using software fully supported by TiVo and with no hacks, I'm going to guess that you were using one of the DirectTV TiVos, right? Those were (are) artificially contrained by DTV to remove features such as video export, dvd burning, playing home movies & slide shows etc... And some of the items up there are jsut wrong - no skip back? What do you think the Instant Replay button is for???
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    10. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      Those were (are) artificially contrained by DTV to remove features such as video export, dvd burning, playing home movies & slide shows etc...

      So you're saying with an out of the box Tivo, I can grab a movie or show with my powerbook and watch it there in MPEG format? And I can burn a DVD of it from there when I'm done? And I can easily plug in an external hard drive full of movies, music, and images and the Tivo will allow me to select and play them? I'd love to know how, since no one I asked who has one was able to do any of these things, nor was I able to find any documentation claiming they could when last I evaluated DVR systems.

      me of the items up there are jsut wrong - no skip back? What do you think the Instant Replay button is for?

      When last I evaluated DVRs (about a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago) I found the easiest way to skip commercials was using a skip ahead, occasionally using a skip back for programs with weird commercial break lengths. On many systems this was easy. You click the forward button to skip ahead and the back to skip back. On the system I ended up with, these times are actually customizable to any length, which is an added bonus. When testing the Tivo it did not have any skip ahead (which I later learned can be enabled with an easter egg, something most people will never learn) and if there was a skip back I did not find it. If you say it is there, I'll take your word for it, but it sure did not seem easy or intuitive to find to me.

      Specifically which of these features do you claim Tivos now are capable of?

    11. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by graffix_jones · · Score: 1

      Ah... I could be getting my wires crossed between Satellite TV and TiVO...

      /me looks around sheepishly

      Well... uh... I should've added in a tiny print legal disclaimer that any and/or all parts of my gripe list are severable, so if any part is found to be incorrect, it can be removed and the other parts still stand.

      I just 'knew' that my business law class would come in handy for ass-covering someday...

    12. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to the TiVo i ordered last Thursday (directly from TiVo), recieved yesterday, and today took 40 miles to the home of the nearest friend I have with an old-fashioned phone line. From now on, all my updates can happen over the network, but the guided setup still insists on dialing in.

    13. Re:Why the "Replace Tivo" hardon? by Kitsune78 · · Score: 1

      Set the dial prefix to ",#401", that's comma, pound sign, four zero one. Guided setup will then use your USB adapter.

  39. Well my friend that works at Apple says... by BMonger · · Score: 4, Funny

    We all know about the U2 branded iPod... you've drooled over the Harry Potter laser engraved iPod... 2006 brings you a new revolution in branding.

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster iPod. This iPod includes a non-removable case for your iPod made out of durable foam latex. A respectable amount of "noodly appendages" keep the iPod off your desk and floating mysteriously in the air. This can be had for you and your loved ones for the price of... $599, $100 of which is donated directly to the beer volcano.

    1. Re:Well my friend that works at Apple says... by wildsurf · · Score: 1

      This can be had for you and your loved ones for the price of... $599, $100 of which is donated directly to the beer volcano.

      What about the stripper factory?

      --
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    2. Re:Well my friend that works at Apple says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an iPod Video. Use the imagination.

  40. That sound you hear? by TCQuad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't buy the "hits" so the songs I'd purchase would probably come out cheaper than $.99.

    That sound you hear in the background is thousands of executives worldwide laughing at your naiveté.

  41. I don't think so. by Gardenhead · · Score: 1

    I think there will be a 10.5 that will address the core imaging problems in Aperture since they didn't address that much in the last Aperture update. That's my guess at least.

  42. Airport TV by el_womble · · Score: 1
    I've been using a lousy phillips 'digital' wireless transceiver to beam DivX from my lovely iMac G5 to the lounge for a little over a year and, with my Airport Express showing it age, I would rush to buy an Airport replacement that can forward DivX and H.264. The trouble is you know that it will be cripple ware:

    • Content must be held in iTunes, which means that it will take hours to convert all your DivX/pr0n collection encouraging you to buy from iTMS
    • The software will center around downloading HiDef content which will only be available in the US, even though the BBC would probably bite their arms off to get that sort of publicity
    • The connectors will be a choice of SVideo or a HD connection, leaving SCART loving Europe with the same terrible picture quality as the USA and Japan
    • It won't work as a PVR - which would be the real killer app
    • Front Row 2.0 and the BT remote control will be optional extras


    But it will be easier to setup than modding an old XBox which is the next best solution (unless your willing to pay Elagatos extortionate prices).

    --
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  43. Jobs and The Simpsons? by yopie · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    The Simpsons go to Macworld??
    http://macenstein.com/default/archives/149

  44. Apple Cell Phone by CmdrPorno · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It may be 6 months or 6 years until Apple makes a cell phone, but I know only that I want one and that I will buy it.

    --
    Sent from my iPhone
  45. An old catchprase by Mercano · · Score: 2, Funny

    It can be said about a woman looking for a date at an engineering school or next Apple keynote: "The odds are good but the goods are odd."

    --
    #include <signature.h>
  46. The one sure thing by Geoff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The one sure thing is that, whatever he announces at MacWorld, Steve Jobs will made it seem like the most amazing development in the history of computing, and the Apple Store site will be bogged down with orders.

    Geoff

    --

    Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso

  47. Noooooooo! by sootman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apple's productivity suite will get upgrades to Pages and Keynote with the possible addition of a modern Office-killing spreadsheet application (rumored to be called "Numbers" or "Sheets"). If it reads and writes Excel files the Apple spreadsheet will be the final nail is Microsoft Office's coffin. Microsoft will waste no time in announcing the end of support for Office for the Mac if this happens.

    And then Apple can kiss all of its corporate sales goodbye. Nope, not gonna happen. Maybe a light-duty, somewhat-compatible spreadsheet for people to make little lists with, but Apple knows it will lose more in corporate hardware sales than it can ever make back with their little $99-a-pop suite.

    Besides, if there's one thing we have learned, it's that 100% compatibility with MS Office file formats is impossible. Can OOo do it? Can Quark or InDesign perfectly import Word docs? Hell, do MS Office for Mac and Win perfectly read each others' files? No, no, and no.

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    1. Re:Noooooooo! by Goo.cc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're right, although I would like to see Apple support the OpenDocument format with the Pages application and TextEdit.

    2. Re:Noooooooo! by NardofDoom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hell. Microsoft's own software doesn't import everything correctly.

      --
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    3. Re:Noooooooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a modern Office-killing spreadsheet application (rumored to be called "Numbers" or "Sheets")

      Oh yeah... iSheets.

      (giggles)

  48. Awh shucks, well if it makes you feel better by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Funny
    Don't worry, all those Mac clowns are wrong. The real OS is linux. Feel better now? Now I am off to an extended lunch as gentoo does an essential emerge that is ensure to take the whole working day if I can find the right nice settings.
    • Mac users don't produce because they are to busy worrying about scratches.
    • Linux package users don't produce because they are to busy sorting out the latest dependency nightmare.
    • Linux portage users will start producing right after this compile.
    • Windows users don't produce because the last porn page they visited rooted their machine. Or put another way. Everyone is productive on your windows machine.

    Wich can only lead to the conclusion that all the real work is being done on OS/2.

    --

    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  49. One request that won't be fulfilled by iainl · · Score: 1

    What I'd really like is a new follow-up to my iPod Mini. The shiny, sturdy aluminium case feels great and seems a lot less easy to damage than the white plastic ones you can currently get. But I wouldn't mind having the video capabilities and colour screen from the full-size iPod.

    Oh well, I guess I'm stuck behind the times. At least my firewire dock cable still works.

    --
    "I Know You Are But What Am I?"
  50. Re:Go with a current Mini by Psykechan · · Score: 1

    Sounds like you would be fine with a PPC Mini. My advice would be to wait until the Macworld announcement when you might be able to get one for a drastically reduced price.

    BTW, if you have 68000 classic apps, you may want to check out Basilisk II for OSX. This will probably become more popular in the near future. Remember that this won't help with PPC classic apps.

  51. Pointless Macworld Story by shotgunefx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The last time I was at a Mac World was in the early 90s in Boston when I was a teen. I was supposed to be giving out free subscriptions to macworld magazine or something, but ended up mainly talking to Julie Strain and some other Penthouse Pets that were there promoting some Penthouse VCDs and the programmers of it. :)

    Some executive from Microsoft coming over and hanging out too. With the programmers, basically talking about some info John Carmack posted on Worldnet BBS about using Eigenvectors for color quantization of video to 256 colors. A great excuse to spend some time in their booth ;)

    When Carmack came up, of course so did Wolfenstein. I remember the MS guy talking about how it gave him motion sickness. LOL

    I was suprised by the sheer amount of porn there. They had one porn booth that was enclosed in a curtain with the hardcore stuff. There were so many dudes in there, when you walked by, you could see their shapes presses against the curtains. Like in the movies when the ghouls start coming out of the wall.

    Damn that's creepy. Last place I'm going to watch porn is pressed against 20 other dudes.

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    -William Shatner can be neither created nor destroyed.
    1. Re:Pointless Macworld Story by the+narf · · Score: 1

      I've been to many a Macworld since those heady days in the early 90s, and haven't seen porn purveyors on the show floor in several years. I guess when IDG bought it from Mitch Hall Associates (or bought MHA themselves, I can't remember which), they tossed out all the porn vendors.

      j

    2. Re:Pointless Macworld Story by shotgunefx · · Score: 1

      When I was there, it seemed about half (keep in mind it was a long, long time ago). Not that I had a problem with it. Though much of it was anime style stuff which I don't get at all.

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      -William Shatner can be neither created nor destroyed.
  52. What I want... by Cadre · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Backup moved from .Mac to iLife?

    I'd like to see them open up the .Mac XMLRPC schema so it'd be easier for users to roll their own .Mac.

    Ah heck, lets just list a couple of things I'd like to see (which are completely unrelated to iLife):

    • Tabbed chat in iChat
    • Single-system image or some type of tightly coupled clustering with NUMA
    • Option to share podcast playlist in iTunes (right now, all playlists appear 'cept for the podcast one to users over Bonjour)
    • Ability to force iSync to do "Last name, first name" on Motorola v550s (and any other Motorola phone)
    • pf instead of ipfw
    • OpenVPN support in the Internet Connect.app

    Okay, I'm done... for now.

    --
    All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
    1. Re:What I want... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      Ability to force iSync to do "Last name, first name" on Motorola v550s (and any other Motorola phone)

      While we're nitpicking iSync issues, how about actually making the Bluetooth features of Address Book work with most phones? I've never gotten it to work with anything (all of my phones are Motorolas, my main one is a Razr V3).

      I still think Apple has by far the best out-of-the-box implementation of Bluetooth syncronization, and combined with .Mac (which it would be great if they opened up) totally brainless computer-to-computer syncronization and backup. I've never seen anything on Windows or Linux that touches it for ease of use and seamlessness. Sure you can approximate the same thing in Linux with some well designed cron jobs and scripts involving rsync, but damned if Apple hasn't just Made It Work yet again. (For $99 a year.)

      --
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    2. Re:What I want... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Single-system image or some type of tightly coupled clustering with NUMA

      Numa? That fat kid singing into a webcam? Why would you want Apple to add that?

    3. Re:What I want... by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

      You do realize that since .Mac is a source of revenue now, they're never going to make it easier than they have to to roll your own?

  53. Re:Yipee! A non event by bms20 · · Score: 1

    OS/2? VMS Please; or, even better: VOS! -Brett

  54. Apple by certel · · Score: 1

    They're going to polish up the Apple logo a little bit and call it a re-design.

    1. Re:Apple by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 1

      you're obviously unfamiliar with the fact that Apple does actually improve their products on a regular basis, but very familiar with MS's practise of releasing a slightly different GUI for Windows every 4-5 years.

    2. Re:Apple by Stormwatch · · Score: 2, Funny
      They're going to polish up the Apple logo a little bit and call it a re-design.
      Apple's logo is cool, but maybe a bit too sober. I think they could add some color to it, maybe if they used colored stripes, it would... oh, wait.
  55. How about giving putting a DVD-R in the iBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See, I know they can put a DVD-R in the 12 inch iBook, as you can ship it off to some other store and they'll upgrade it for you.. But apple REFUSES to put one in their most basic laptop model, even if you ask for an upgrade. (12 inch iBook) Its obviously a blatant push to get you to buy one of the moreexpensive systems.

    Meh, I still think these computers are overpriced.

    1. Re:How about giving putting a DVD-R in the iBook by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 1
      Meh, I still think these computers are overpriced.
      Dude, cry me a river because Apple's product strategy doesn't fit with the way you want the world to be. Of course they're trying to push you to buy more expensive systems; that's what companies do.

      It's not completely without reason, however: the 12-inch iBook isn't targeted at the type of person who would be authoring DVDs, and it's really not the right machine for that task. If you want to be miserable, go ahead and buy the wrong machine for what you want to do and then upgrade the drive. Really.

      The iBook is Apple's low-end laptop. Deal with it.
    2. Re:How about giving putting a DVD-R in the iBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Except DVD-Rs are a STANDARD in even low-end computers today.

      I could give less then two shits about any "Apple Product Strategy." Apple is a company, and they are allowed to do what they want in these regards, just like I'm allowed to bitch and ultimatly make the choice to not buy it.

      Because of this little bit of BS, they lost a sale.

      The 12 inch iBook fits everything I want in a product, except it lacks a dvd-r. Super small, Plays emulators, Browses web wirelessly, has office suite, connects to TV.... but you cant burn a dvd of the shit you download.

      C'mon, thats some mega bullshit right there. Heck, I even want to pay them for the upgrade, and they wont let me.

      Its apple zealots like you that piss off so many. Stop defending them, they dont need it. They already arnt getting my money because of their "product strategy" and thats enough.

      My complaint stands, and apple still doesnt get my money.

    3. Re:How about giving putting a DVD-R in the iBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. Sneaker Net is obsolete. Fucking transfer your data over the network. Or put the iBook in target disk mode and get on with life.

    4. Re:How about giving putting a DVD-R in the iBook by toddestan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dude. Sneaker Net is obsolete. Fucking transfer your data over the network. Or put the iBook in target disk mode and get on with life.

      Those are just work arounds.

      Fact is, this is how Apple works. They like to dangle a carrot in front of your face (The $999 iBook, the Shuffle) to get you interested. But the thing is, they cripple the low end models so they can try to upsell you to the higher end models. And they like to carefully set their price points so that the next model up is "just a bit more".

      On the PC side of things, the manufacturers can't pull that crap. If Sony decided they weren't going to put a DVD burner in their lower end models to try to sell more high end models, everyone would just go and buy a Compaq/HP/IBM/Dell/Acer/Gateway/EMachines/Toshiba/ ??? instead. And to someone who puts togther their own PCs with exactly what I want, Apple's way of doing things really seems bizarre at times and can really be a turn off.

    5. Re:How about giving putting a DVD-R in the iBook by fishboy · · Score: 1

      my frank reply is, "then don't buy apple" i am constantly frustrated by the notion here on /. that what is best for the consumer is what is best for apple, which could not be farther from the truth. how is apple different from any other pc manufacturer? if apple doesn't include a dvd player in the low-end model, what stops people from going to sony, dell, or hp? apple products do not exist in some alternate reality where the only choice is apple and apple is not some sort of dvd-player charity, they are first and foremost a money-making machine-- forget this and you really miss the point of business entities by a country mile. of course they want as much of your money as they can get, don't you think they would receive a little flak on the bottom line otherwise? if you want to build a custom machine, go build a custom machine, no one is stopping you, apple is not in control of your brain or your hardware choices. don't go blaming apple because their business model doesn't match your personal preference model. "apple doesn't do this, apple doesn't do that." cry me a river, and don;t buy apple. /rant over.

    6. Re:How about giving putting a DVD-R in the iBook by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "Dude. Sneaker Net is obsolete. Fucking transfer your data over the network."

      People still have dial-up and, when it comes to sending 4.9 GB, I'll take the high-bandwidth/high-latency USPS WAN option over 56k any day.

  56. Video Store by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, Tivo works great for time shifting. There are a few things that could be improved, and even if thier DVR was a minor incremental improvement on what is out there, I think that Apple has the expertice and mindshare to do well in the market.

    However, there is also the possibility for another type of media device that would be signifcantly better than Tivo for some users - A device that let you rent/buy video over the internet, and watch them directly from the television. Being able to watch any movie/series at any time is far more convienient than what the cable company offers at the moment, even with Tivo. Furthermore, content producers/owners like don't particularly like how their distribution options are restricted to cable television monopolies. Time Warner said as much when they released their experimental online service.

    Apple is the perfect company to do this. In order for it to be a good experiance, it will require an easy to use set-top device, and an online store with a large selection of content. They have proven themselves to be capable of producing top notch hardware and software, but even more importantly are capable of negotiating deals with media companies. Lastly, what with the video iPod and FrontRow, it definately looks like Apple has plans for video in their roadmap.

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  57. Quicken for mac by JerkBoB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Quicken for Mac is awful.

    I'm glad to know I'm not alone in this sentiment. I tried migrating from Quicken 2005 for Windows (running in VMWare) to Quicken for Mac 2006 and it was a disaster. Migration issues aside, when I managed to get enough imported to start using it, it crashed left and right. Intuit's "support" consisted of a painful java-based chat with some ESL monkey who was totally unhelpful...

    Now I'm working on getting my money back and figuring out some other way to get my wife involved with the finances.

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    A host is a host from coast to coast...
    Unless it's down, or slow, or fails to POST!
    1. Re:Quicken for mac by alphafoo · · Score: 1

      You are so not alone in this sentiment. Apple, please, give us a real Quicken replacement.

      And yes, I have tried Moneydance. It's just missing way too much still.

      I have a WinXP box sitting next to my Mac now. I turn it on once a month to fire up Quicken, and then it gets turned back off. Could this be the year Apple rescues us?

  58. Under the spreading chestnut tree... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    "Apple uses Intel. Apple has always used Intel. PowerPC sucks."

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  59. Sure it's Apple's choice by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Well considering that it wouldn't be Apple's choice to raise the prices...

    Not true. They have to renegotiate the contract this year but Apple always has the option to walk away from a price hike at the cost of loosing that library of music.

    Furthermore Apple holds the cards in bargaining, as while the music companies have the music it's not worth much if all people do is steal it. Apple has shown a store can work and is bringing in a lot of revenue for the various companies, you'd think they would think twice before backing out. And if all of the music companies back out there's probably an anti-trust suit to be had...

    So if prices go up, I'm blaming Apple for buckling just when they are in a position to keep them where they are (or even lower them). If I were Jobs that's what I'd do, tell them if they want variable pricing how about lowering older songs to $0.50?

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  60. Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple will announce the release of a 3 button mouse after they realized what a hit they had with their 2 button model...

    Actually the mightymouse only has one button and it looks and works just like the old single button mice. The trick is that depending on which finger you press down on the single button with you get a left or right click functionality and the trackball on top of it doubles as a third button. This is a typical Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) solution:

    Fact #1: Official Apple policy is that a user only needs one mouse button.
    Fact #2: Unfortunately experience has shown that it is better to have more mouse buttons.
    Fact #3: Since we are talking aboute Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) it is not an option to back down on Fact #1.

    Ergo: Design a mouse that has a single button that works like two buttons and has a trackball built in instead of a scroll-wheel giving 2d scrollingcapability. This has the dual effect of adding a little novelty to a new product and most importantly it enables Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) to save face by not having to back down on Fact #1.

    It never ceases to amaze me how Apple continually seems to succeed in coming up with gadgets that sell like hotcakes but that really are only redesigns or recombinations of already existing ideas. Both the iPod and the Mighty Mouse really just combinine two old ideas into a new one. I have seen mice with builtin trackballs before but no design that was quite as elegant as the mightly mouse. Similarly the iPod is nothing new either, the inovation is really to marry an MP3 player with an obscene amount of storage space and package it in an elegant and ergonomically well designed package. Both these are, surprisingly enough, ideas that nobody had thought of even if they had been bloody obvious for years.

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    1. Re:Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) by GlassHeart · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It never ceases to amaze me how Apple continually seems to succeed in coming up with gadgets that sell like hotcakes but that really are only redesigns or recombinations of already existing ideas.

      To put it bluntly, that's just because your expectation of what sort of innovation a good product should contain is abnormally high. All Dell ever seems to do is make things cheaper. All monitor manufacturers seem to do is to make bigger monitors with better resolutions. All printer manufacturers seem to do is to print smaller dots faster. The thing is, at some point the incremental improvements cross a threshold of usability and become hits. For example, once we got 1024x768 monitors and 300 dpi printers, the computer became a viable tool for desktop publishing. Similarly, my 128 MB Rio MP3 player was a mere toy, but once somebody found a way to hold hundreds or thousands of songs, the product was a very different gadget. We can't all be inventing revolutions like zippers and velcro every year, you know.

    2. Re:Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) by flyinwhitey · · Score: 1

      "All monitor manufacturers seem to do is to make bigger monitors with better resolutions."

      Funny, I remember some of my monitors getting thinner and lighter too, had something to do with LCD's...

      "All printer manufacturers seem to do is to print smaller dots faster."

      Hmm, I also remember buying a newfangled device to fix my printouts. It seems they were all coming out in one color.

      Oh wait, you're wrong.

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    3. Re:Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) by maxume · · Score: 1
      Similarly the iPod is nothing new either, the inovation is really to marry an MP3 player with an obscene amount of storage space and package it in an elegant and ergonomically well designed package. Both these are, surprisingly enough, ideas that nobody had thought of even if they had been bloody obvious for years.

      I would argue that the big deal with the ipod was the execution. There were hard drive players and what not before the ipod, just none that were quite as nice. Plus, the click-wheel was a pretty good idea.

      I'm not really trying to disagree with what you said, just pointing out that perhaps the execution was quite a bit more important than the actual idea.

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    4. Re:Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) by GlassHeart · · Score: 1
      Funny, I remember some of my monitors getting thinner and lighter too, had something to do with LCD's...

      LCDs are indeed a revolutionary step from CRTs, but after its introduction what has been happening? It gets bigger and has better resolution year after year.

      Hmm, I also remember buying a newfangled device to fix my printouts. It seems they were all coming out in one color.

      Similarly, color printers were also revolutionary, after which we get smaller dots that print faster.

      Congratulations on missing the point. Revolutions come once in a while, and while many revolutionary products are also very good products, not all good products are, or need to be, revolutionary. Many times, it's an evolutionary step that crosses a threshold and makes the result a smash hit.

    5. Re:Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      It's not how new the dance is, but how well you dance, I guess.

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    6. Re:Apple (aka. Steve Jobs) by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, the innovation with the iPod was not only to greatly increase all the technical specs of the player (not just storage space but transfer speed- Firewire was so much better than USB at the time there was simply no comparison) but to give the player a really well-thought-out interface (the wheel) and marry it with the best media management program they could get (iTunes). iTunes, the iPod, and the ITMS were all designed simultaneously as part of a single Apple initiative and had always been intended to work together.

  61. Battlestar Galactica in HD resolution by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Along with a wider deployment of FrontRow (included in new iLife), a full HD Resolution Battlestar Galactica for sale the day after air (and all the back catalogue) would make for killer online TV sales.

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    1. Re:Battlestar Galactica in HD resolution by OS24Ever · · Score: 1

      I've got both DVD sets but I'd be really freakin tempted to buy HD versions.

      I'd also pick up a new Mac Mini if it were compelling enough for me to plug it into my HDTV.

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  62. Re:My prediction for a multibutton Mac laptop by Psykechan · · Score: 1

    New iBooks and PowerBooks will continue to have a single button with a twist.

    The new button will be capacitance sensing and be able to determine where your finger/thumb is clicking it. By default, it will function as a single button, but you can easliy set it to two or possibly three button mode via system preferences.

    Remember, you heard it here first.

  63. We're definitely getting Intel Macs. by GFLPraxis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check ThinkSecret- they're almost always right, and cite reliable sources (the same ones that leaked the iPod Photo and Mac Mini originally) that we'll have an Intel iBook and Mini.

    1. Re:We're definitely getting Intel Macs. by richpulp · · Score: 1

      I read that Apple are keen to use x86 platform for their OS. They will however, IMHO, not allow the likes of Dell nor HP to "clone" the system, and thus allow users to buy a "Mac" for $299 after mail-in rebate. I have used the Mac Mini in it's $699 configuration, and it reminds me of a headless laptop.

    2. Re:We're definitely getting Intel Macs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes sense, since the Mini's motherboard and components are based on the iBook internals.

    3. Re:We're definitely getting Intel Macs. by humina · · Score: 1
      After you check thinksecret just wait to see which story apple sues them over. Then you know they found something.

      This will be the least excited I've ever been for a stevenote. A string of ibook problems and a guy on the phone telling you that your extended warranty doesn't cover the problem tends to take the wind out of apple's sails for me (or should I say sales).

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  64. Re:My prediction for a multibutton Mac laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not that it matters much for a laptop, but that results in a "1.5"-button mouse, not a 2-button mouse. I work at Blizzard and we were mad at Apple when they released the Mighty Mouse because it is impossible to hit the left and right mouse buttons at the same time, an important feature in World of Warcraft.

  65. Re:Typo? Taco! by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

    Yes, it's a taco typo. And have a look at the later story on the CES Preview for more illiteracy my 8-year-old daughter would be ashamed of.

  66. Re:Yipee! A non event by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 1

    Oooh... what a witty troll. Congratulations on such an insightful post. Because, you know, nobody loses any time or productivity due to Windows virii, or the extensive mish-mash of security patches you have to apply, or having the registry get borked, or having their machine become a spam-producing zombie, not to mention that nobody ever has to do clean installs of Windows to clean out all that crap, and nobody's at risk because Windows executables run with equivalent of root privileges. I'm sure nobody's ever lost productivity because their network was taken over by SQLSlammer or other similar worm. And that anti-virus software you have to have on your Windows box, I'm sure, doesn't suck any processor cycles or make your system any less stable. You know, now that I've read your post, I think I'd better get rid of my Mac and start using Windows for the bulk of my work, because I'm obviously less productive than I should be. My god, why didn't I see it before?? Thank you so much!

    Hell, I go longer without rebooting my Mac than I go without having to reinstall Windows on my Dell. And, oh yeah, my Mac doesn't have solitaire or minesweeper on it, either, so if it weren't for Slashdot, I'd be extremely productive on my Mac. :p

    Aluminum polish? Heh. Right. I'll do that right after I vacuum my keyboard and send my underwear out for dry-cleaning.

  67. Why are 4 GB iPod nanos out of stock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Related to a Macworld announcement somehow?

  68. He's never been right.... by primalamn · · Score: 0, Troll

    O'Grady is a tool. The odds of him getting any prediction right, based on his history at PowerPage and now this blog, are about 10,000,000,000:1

  69. re: Macs and getting laid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry... but this one made me grin. I actually have a *true* story along these lines. I just started talking to a girl who answered a personals ad I put on Craigslist where I advertised that I was seeking a "geek girl" (if such a person really existed). I found out that among other things, she was a big fan of Apple products, and had just purchased a new Powerbook 15". This was a few weeks before OS X 10.4 "Tiger" was scheduled for official release. I managed to download a copy of the final release version of 10.4 from Usenet and burnt it to DVD, about a week before it was going to hit the stores. It served as the main excuse/reason for me to meet up with her in person at her house - and yes, I did end up getting laid that night!

    So thanks Apple!

  70. Bah, humbug!! by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 2
    I have a colleague which likes almost everything coming from Apple.
    In the last time I have the impression that he is working, here in our company, for nothing.
    I told him, that would be much easier, to talk with the payroll, so that they send his salary directly to Apple.


    I could say the same thing about most of my colleagues and their expensive jeeps. There is no way I would ever get into that much debt because of a dispensable luxury like a car I only buy used ones and drive them until they fall apart out of fright when somebody honks at me at a traffic light. Now a (Apple) computer on the other hand, hmmmm... yes, that dispensable luxury I will endulge in because:

    1. I earn my living of *nix based computers and runnign a *nix on the desktop helps me to avoid being reminded that Windows XP even exists.
    2. I could run Linux but OS.X runs perfectly out of the box and getting mundane crap to work is usually much less hassle.
    3. Most of the really worth while Linux software ports easily to OS.X.
    4. With what I save on car loan payments I can afford buying high end computers.
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  71. iBook FW. by saintlupus · · Score: 1

    Don't be surprised if this IBook is the first to ship without a FireWire port

    Didn't the first couple generations of the old toilet seat iBooks ship without Firewire?

    I know they shipped without VGA-out, which sucked.

    --saint

  72. Nononononono. by randomaxe · · Score: 1

    Ahem.

    engineers != designers.

    Engineers are the ones coming up with the technical ways in which everything fits together and physically functions on the inside. You know, determining which hinge mechanisms are more likely to suffer breakage from lateral force or repeated use, etc.

    Designers are the ones who decide what the whole deal looks like. Aesthetic and ergonomic design, useability, etc.

    In short, designers would be the ones who drew a picture of what they wanted the iPod to look like. Engineers would be the ones who made it work. So, unless you're an Apple zealot who has had severely bad experiences with the physical quality of Sony's PCs, there's little to complain about here.

  73. Firewire will remain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After developing Firewire on their own, and successfully making it a standard, Apple won't get rid of firewire, even on the iBook. My cousin wants an iBook because he can connect it with his camcorder and edit his skateboarding videos with the included software. Me, I have amassed several pieces of firewire hardware, including an Apple iSight, an external HD, and an old iPod.
    Maybe to make the 'book thinner, they'll change the firewire connector so that it requires a dongle to get a standard firewire jack. But odds are, it will be there.

  74. Easy on the Zeal by mpapet · · Score: 1

    It should come as no surprise to anyone that the same OEM's that build PC laptops build Macs. Surprise, they use similar (if not identical) components with few exceptions. Their BOM cost would soar if they actually spec'd anything outside of high-volume parts.

    Yes, they design a case but beyond the case they are using off the shelf stuff.

    The lesson for today: Apple's totally committed to profits in a world with few choices.

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  75. Re:Go with a current Mini by OwnedByTwoCats · · Score: 1

    A mini sounds enticing price-wise. But the slow disk and that it's only a G4 keep my wallet in my pocket.

    Thanks for the pointers to Basilisk II.

  76. 1000/1 Odds Apple Ships without... by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    separate anti-virus &/or adware/spyware apps.

  77. iWin(e) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple branded Windows compatibility layer. iWin, youWin, TheyWin.

  78. NeXT! (wasRe:Nah....) by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    NeXT only had a two-button mouse (both the original, and the ADB version were only two-buttons).

    http://www.channelu.com/Turbo/NeXT/mousekeysound.h tml

    Moreover, it configures by default that the right mouse button functionality (popping up the main menu) was disabled.

    William

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  79. Re:My prediction for a multibutton Mac laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Not that it matters much for a laptop, but that results in a "1.5"-button mouse, not a 2-button mouse. I work at Blizzard and we were mad at Apple when they released the Mighty Mouse because it is impossible to hit the left and right mouse buttons at the same time, an important feature in World of Warcraft.

    LOL! I've played WoW a lot since it came out, and never even knew this "important feature" existed. I've also never seen it mentioned online. Clicking both buttons at once is a terrible UI idea, I'm glad it hasn't caught on.

    I'm guessing Apple will continue to do just fine with its mice. BTW, I'm switching to Mac for WoW this year. =)

  80. Why all the emphasis on gaming? by assantisz · · Score: 1

    Apple has never catered for the gaming market. Why should they do so now? Whatever 3D accelerator is going to be shipped with the upcoming Macs will be sufficient for the market Apple is targeting.

    1. Re:Why all the emphasis on gaming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Apple has never catered for the gaming market. Why should they do so now? Whatever 3D accelerator is going to be shipped with the upcoming Macs will be sufficient for the market Apple is targeting.


      Yeah, and god forbid Apple is sitting on its ass not looking toward new horizons. Unless you're in the Apple head shed or marketing department you don't know what market Apple is targeting.

    2. Re:Why all the emphasis on gaming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use your head. If Apple wants to open up to gamers they would look at higher end graphic cards. Do they? Nope. Conclusion?

  81. Screw 10.5 by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just want 10.4 to stop crapping out as a Domain controller. We are rebooting our domain controller and file servers so often management is actually having me put together a proposal to migrate back to Linux. For those of you not in the Know, 10.4 server has a nasty bug that locks of the server when a particular sequence of events occur, usually during replication. (Which on an active Windows Domain happens every few minutes.) Apple has acknowledged the problem and a fix has been "any day now" ever since Tiger was released.

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  82. payback by mahju · · Score: 1

    ahh yes, but its just payback for Tim Schaaff

  83. No Firewire? by localman · · Score: 1

    Was anyone else shocked by the prediciton at the bottom that Apple might be dropping Firewire? I mean, Firewire isn't that popular for general use, but the areas where it is used it is the only game in town, really. My Firewire 800 HD is wonderfully fast, the audio breakout boxes for recording multitrack, and 1394 support is built in to nearly every video camera. USB can do some of this stuff in a less consistent way, but Firewire is pretty much the professional connection, no? I would be quite sad if Apple gave it up.

    Cheers.

    1. Re:No Firewire? by lowid+(24)+_________ · · Score: 1

      I doubt they'd give it up for their pro products. Ibook and imac i can understand, but I agree that it's a bit disappointing. They'd be in deep shit from the audio and video worlds if they dropped firewire support on the powerbook or pro desktops, though... breaking compatibility for everybody's hardware is not something you want to do. (I personally would have $500 or so worth of audio gear that would be rendered worthless on the next upgrade cycle, and pretty much everyone else i work with would be worse off than that.)

      P.

    2. Re:No Firewire? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      And not to mention starting up in Target Mode.

      The article was crap. There has never even been the whisper of a hint of a rumor that FW will be dropped on any of the computers.

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  84. Labels make money on *STARS* and their fans by CapnGib · · Score: 1

    The music industry is looking INSANELY greedy with this move. I hope Apple holds out and holds their feet to the fire.

    The problem (from the music label perspective) with the iTMS (or any a-la-carte) distribution system is that it forces them to re-write their business model. Labels make money on *stars* and their fans through CDs, merch, concerts...

    Under the tried-and-true model (pre-1996) the Bob pays $15-20 (album price) for 1-3 hit songs, and the label gives Bob the rest of the album for free, hoping to make Bob a fan, and the artist a star. Repeat, Profit! Under a-la-carte (iTMS), the Bob pays $2 for 2 hits, no fans, no stars. The labels are hoping to get back to the way things were, by charging Bob a premium for the hits, a discount for the other songs and the same price for the album. They still want to make Bob a fan and the artist a star.

    Maybe its time to adapt strategies?
    Diversify, volume, profit!

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  85. Mac OS 8, even by IdahoEv · · Score: 1

    How is it this stupid rumor persists? I've been using the built-in contextual menus and other right-click functions in the Mac OS with a two-button mouse since Mac OS 8. The Mac OS has had built-in uses for multi-button for as long as I've used it, which is about fourteen years ... even before scrollwheels were invented.

    Mac OS X was a lovely improvement to the Mac universe, but two-button mice have been supported since long before then.

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    1. Re:Mac OS 8, even by theAtomicFireball · · Score: 1
      How is it this stupid rumor persists?
      Short answer: It's a Mac rumor. Many anti-Mac people are ignorant of what the Mac actually is and how it actually works. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone by now. :-/

      Contextual menus in OS 9 and OS 8 (and maybe OS 7?? I don't remember) had to be specifically coded by the application developer, which meant that they were not consistently available or consistent in their use when they were available. You couldn't just take any old USB mouse and plug it in and get the full functionality of the right button and the multi-button ADB mice needed special drivers and software to support the additional buttons.

      So, yeah, multi-button mice were available and could be used prior to OS X, but OS X was the first time where multi-button mice were supported consistently throughout the operating system and were supported by default in applications (for the basics like cut, copy, paste, etc) without the developer doing additional work.

      OS X was more than a "lovely addition" to the Mac universe; it's pretty much a new universe that eclipsed the old one. :p Thankfully. OS 7-9, though functional from an end-user perspective, were pretty much a disaster under the hood. Cooperative multitasking? Hard-coded memory partitioning? No protected memory spaces? A crash in the foremost application often forced a system reboot? Horrid thread support and no command line? Oy. I don't miss it at all.
  86. Or you can just go to Apple's website by orlinius · · Score: 1

    If you go to Apple's website now, on the home page you'll see ads for the NEW Power Mac G5, the NEW iMac G5 and the NEW PowerBooks.
    I think that Apple is advertising these as NEW so that people buy them NOW. Apple certainly doesn't want to mislead and encourage clients into buying something to be obsolete with an announcement at MacWorld and be left with this awful feeling of being stupid and helpless.

    The only Apple hardware not advertised as new on Apple's site is the Mac Minis and the iBooks.
    It is obvious to me that these will be the creatures to be given a new X86 heart...

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  87. Firewire and iLife by payndz · · Score: 2, Insightful
    From TFA:

    Don't be surprised if this IBook is the first to ship without a FireWire port.

    Which instantly eliminates one of the big USPs of the whole iLife suite - that you can import, edit and burn your own movies. Without Firewire, how are you supposed to get the data off your digital camcorder? (Do many camcorders support USB 2.0 yet?) And what about all those people (like me) who have their data backed up on Firewire external drives? What are they supposed to do, transfer it on Zip discs when they upgrade?

    Hell, Apple invented Firewire, so it's not like they have to pay a per-unit royalty to have one somewhere on the machine.

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    1. Re:Firewire and iLife by datafr0g · · Score: 1

      My DV Camcorder supports both USB and Firewire but transfers via USB result in a lower picture quality.

      I believe this is because Firewire is a direct peer to peer connection with a fixed data transfer rate whereas USB 2.0 requires the computer to think about the data rates and co-ordinate transfers. If your CPU is preoccupied with other things, you could lose video frames from your transfers.

      I *think* that's correct - if someone out there believes otherwise, please reply!

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    2. Re:Firewire and iLife by mvfranz · · Score: 1

      I hope they enable USB 2.0 booting. I like being able to startup from an external drive.

  88. Don't overlook iDisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it's very likely that at least an overview of some of the features planned for 10.5 will be seen. With Gates taking center stage at CES in order to tout Vista, it's hard to imagine Jobs passing on the opportunity to trump Microsoft's presentation of their new crown jewel. And the fact that the 10.5 (Leopard) release date is planned to roughly coincide with the release of Vista isn't exactly mere coincidence.

    And with a relatively tepid entry into the video market via iTunes so far, I'm looking for a major, and I mean major, upgrade to Apple's iDisk technology, which is a pretty unique feature of OS X. If some of the recent rumors are correct regarding plans to stream full-length movies from a users iDisk, Apple could have a pretty unique answer for serving on-demand movies on the web, including solving bandwidth constraint issues (no need to download the movie) and DRM for the nervous movie studio execs.

    Right now, downloading a full-length movie would take hours, even on a fast cable connection, which most consumers don't have. Asking the average consumer to wait hours before they can start watching a movie just isn't going to fly, not as a realistic alternative to your friendly neighborhood DVD rental outfit. High quality movies via iDisk that are uploaded by Apple to a users iDisk on demand ready to be streamed to the user could take away the present advantage of the neighborhood DVD rental store.

    And currently, iDisk is tightly integrated into OS X which opens up many possibilities, and there hasn't been much of anything in the way of major improvements in iDisk for some time now. So it's possible that, on Monday January 9th, sleeping beauty awakes.

    Regarding the predictions, the author's assumption that the introduction of a spreadsheet program to iWork would eventually cause MS to close shop on Office for the Mac is just absurd. iWork, like it's predecessor Appleworks, has always positioned itself as an easy to learn and use, consumer friendly application. It's not intended to be, nor designed to be, a professional solution, whereas Office is. And unlike Microsoft's Window's division, the Mac business unit hasn't been asleep for the last several years; they've been churning out regular updates to Mac Office that are regarded by many to surpass the Window's version of Office. Jobs has regularly praised the Mac version of Office and complimenting Microsoft's Office team for the Mac. Now if Office became something like the Mac version of Explorer, dying on the software development vine, then we would see Apple making it's move, as it did with Safari. But right now, with Office for the Mac more than healthy, it aint gonna happen.

  89. this calls for a new bumpersticker! by eh2o · · Score: 1

    "I brake for ultra-thin laptops"

  90. The most important event at MacWorld is... by feijai · · Score: 1
    The 2006 Worldwde Newton Conference, immediately after the Expo.

    An awesome picture of the crowd in 2004. More pictures.

  91. iBank / Quicken by shmlco · · Score: 1
    I've seen that before, but it appears unable to automatically syncronize with my bank and download transactions and upload payments. Being able to import OFX, QFX, QIF and CSV files just isn't the same.

    Of course, Quicken for Mac doesn't work there either. It tells me my account "isn't ready", when the PC version's been accessing the same account for years. I also tried to import all of my old PC transactions into it and it just stops. No errors, no messages, no imported data. Nothing.

    Which is pretty much what it's worth...

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  92. Not Powerbooks....Ibooks by DesScorp · · Score: 1
    According to Think Secret anyway. Their sources have tipped them off about the Mac Mini and photo Ipod before, so it may be reliable....

    Those sources have told Think Secret to not rule out the possible release of other Intel-based Macs at Macworld Expo, but that it is more likely the initial release of products with the new processor will be consumer-based products only and not professional, high-end lines, such as PowerBooks and towers, as some Web sites have reported.


    The thinking apparently is that business software vendors need more time to port their stuff to Apple X86, but that Apple's own X86 consumer Mac software is ready to go.
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    1. Re:Not Powerbooks....Ibooks by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1

      "The thinking apparently is that business software vendors need more time to port their stuff to Apple X86, but that Apple's own X86 consumer Mac software is ready to go."

      Because, you know, nobody uses a Powerbook as a "consumer product", everybody who owns a Powerbook is all about the business software.

      Riiiiight.

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  93. CDs are lossy by Gorimek · · Score: 1

    There is no lossless audio format around. CDs are only sampled at 16 bit resolution.

    I suspect AAC files can actually do better than that if given enough bandwidth.

    1. Re:CDs are lossy by damiam · · Score: 1

      There's no such thing as lossless recording; nothing will ever sound exactly like it did live. But that's not the point; ALAC, FLAC, and so on are lossless in the sense that they take CD-quality audio (the best input available in many cases) and compress it losslessly.

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  94. iWork by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather they finish iWork. So far, it has a word processor and a presentation app. The obvious thing it's missing is a spreadsheet. Normally, I don't care for spreadsheets, but this is the system (back when it was called NeXTstep) that had the most innovative spreadsheet I've ever seen: Lotus Improv.

    In Improv, instead of having an arbitrary 2d array of cells, which can have either numbers of formulas, you enter raw data -- in any number of dimensions. Then you can make graphs, by referring to them by a title, not junk like "A2:D43". You can also enter equations (like "F=m*a")for generating more data -- and then when you ask for a dataset (in a graph or report), it automatically uses the formulas you've entered to solve for what you want.

    Needless to say, it was 10 years ahead of everything else at what it did, but people really only wanted Excel to make lists, so Improv tanked in the marketplace. But Mac users who just want to make lists use OmniOutliner (which beats the pants of Excel at simple things), so maybe Improv stands a chance.

  95. Re:MacworldExpo.com is hosted on several Windows 2 by Bug-Y2K · · Score: 1

    That is because Macworld Expo is run by IDG, not Apple.

  96. Sell both -- let the customer decide! by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

    Everyone is forgetting the option that Apple could sell both x86 and PowerPC PowerBooks at the same time, like what they've done in the past.

    1. Re:Sell both -- let the customer decide! by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


      Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple kept selling PowerPC machines for a while, like they kept selling MacOS 9-booting Macs. The selection would likely be very limited, and they may not promote it very heavily, and you might have to call in your order and ask specifically about it, as I think has been the case before with an otherwise end-of-life'd product.

      I don't think there'd be much of a point in carrying this on beyond the end of 2006. We know the PPC line isn't going to be getting any updates.

      Apple wouldn't need to keep much inventory: At this point, people would only be buying under duress, replacing machines lost unexpectedly. 500 machines would probably be sufficient.

      Then again, it has occurred to me that one way Apple could have quickly come up with an Intel Powerbook would be if they kept the same chassis and screen as used in the recent update. They could just hand the G4 Powerbook motherboard layout to Intel and ask for a Yonah configuration with the same general layout (they'd probably have to specify some thermal characteristics too). Then, they could just swap dual-core Yonah motherboards for the G4 motherboards on the production line.

      This would also mean that it would be pretty easy to swap in a G4 motherboard at the factory, on demand.

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  97. iTunes not mastered from CDs by Gorimek · · Score: 1

    If iTunes store songs are indeed made from CD versions, that's a relevant argument. But Apple claims that they're produced from the original masters.

    If so, it's not really a question of lossiness, but if whether the CD encoding or the AAC encoding sounds better.

  98. A new Mac will be unveiled... by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

    I know an insider at Apple, and a new Mac is going to be released (seriously). I believe it's going to be between the Mini and the G5 horsepower wise.

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  99. Re:Who-the-fuck cares by DataCannibal · · Score: 1

    -1 Troll ? Fucking Macboys got no sense of humour !

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  100. Um. Why? by Onan · · Score: 1

    Uh, perhaps it would run the same version of 10.4 that the current Intel mac developer machines run? Y'know, the one that's based on the version of osx that's been kept ported to x86 since the product was first released five years ago?

    Your post is long on confidence, but short on support for your very strange assertions.

  101. You forgot one...Flash memory based ibook! by steinkeller · · Score: 1

    The one you forgot is the one I think we will see that will change things as we know it. A flash based ibook. Why else would apple be going around buying all the flash memory and securing deals for several years out? Simple, just as they got rid of the floppy, the hard drive is now going to be phased out. Apple did the smart thing and got its contracts in order now because once Apple releases this thing every manufacturer is going to be knocking on Samsung, Micron, Intel's doors for it.
    Me personally, I can't wait to have my 10 hour battery life ibook that turns on in a snap!

    1. Re:You forgot one...Flash memory based ibook! by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1
      Why else would apple be going around buying all the flash memory and securing deals for several years out?

      Yeah, it's not as if Apple currently have any hot selling products with flash memory, and might expect to be selling a lot of them for the next several years, after all....

  102. They say there's a first time for everything... by alan6101 · · Score: 0

    NT

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  103. Apple makes me cry by inphizzible_friend · · Score: 1

    Not only is it giving in to corporatism as well as using technology this advanced for primitive means, but every fucking yuppie I know has an ipod

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  104. TiVo's Usability Sucks ... except compared to VCRs by podperson · · Score: 1

    Tivo right now, works perfect.

    I disagree. TiVo works well in comparison to competitors, but it has a clunky UI, a remote control which is easy to accidentally use upside-down and has way too many buttons for way too few functions (and yet still requires too many clicks and screen loads to get from "Now Playing" to watching your chosen program).

    E.g. if you have four episodes of a program and choose to pick one, by default you have to click twice (and load two screens) to start watching that program (you can bypass one of the screens by pressing a different button -- but it's not the most likely button you'll use). If you discover you've picked the wrong episode and click the TiVo button you get dropped back at the BOTTOM level of the menu.

    TiVo has been around for six years, and has had the iPod to imitate (and not only does the iPod have a cleaner UI with fewer buttons -- it's far more responsive). If it's UI is still this clunky with all this time and testing, then its product team simply doesn't get it and never will.

  105. This guy is just crazy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy is out of his mind. A dreamer, really. Some of these things may come to pass, but he's really a terrible reporter!

    Just look at some of those predictions. Very unlike Apple. I highly doubt Apple will start branching their software off into consumer versions of their new office suite or add too much to iLife 06. He's gone absolutely nuts with the iTunes Music Store bit. Looks to me like he simply reads Slashdot headlines and concocts little stories about them.

    It also seems he's one of the people who stirred up those ridiculous alligations that Apple would be dropping FireWire from its consumer products--something that makes no sense considering all of the work Apple has put into the music, video and photography fields. (FireWire audio interfaces, DV cameras, and professional grade digital cameras)

    So yeah, take these predictions with a grain of salt.

  106. Airtv by technotot · · Score: 1

    streaming hdtv, what about the bandwidth? hd? "right".

  107. Re:My prediction for a multibutton Mac laptop by Psykechan · · Score: 1

    Yea, I've played WoW with the mighty mouse... the "important feature" allows you to move forward and I just have to rely on using the "W" key. No big loss. I do very rarely use both mouse buttons for forward movement (on a Logitech mouse) but it's just when I'm switching things around and get mobbed.

    I've also played more than a few hours of WoW on the PB one button trackpad and I don't think that I'd really mind if they made it impossible to press more than one button at the same time.

    If Blizzard wants to make it so that mighty mouse users can use this "important feature", make it so that middle clicking does something... perhaps moving forward maybe?

  108. $2B/$12B gross - so what was the artists net? by tlambert · · Score: 1

    $2B/$12B gross - so what was the artists net?

    "In 2003, US gross numbers for live music totalled $2 billion. That same year, recorded music grossed $12 billion."

    I suspect that the artists saw more from the live music, and a heck of a lot less from the recorded music, with the money largely going to the middlemen, like Clear Channel, which owns ~9% (~1200 out of ~13,000 stations). The only thing that really matters to the artist is "mall money", and gross receipts don't tell anywhere near the whole story.

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