Ehm... what's wrong with JWS? Doesn't it work on your workstation? It does on mine... rather well actually. So, again... care to explain the statement or are you just trolling?
I suspect sshd with priv separation works like that. I haven't nitpicked either M$'s patent nor SSH's process but they look terribly similar. Can someone with better knowlege of the details reply? Does it constitute prior art? And most importantly: is M$ targeting UNIX's most important networked administration application considering how they attacked VNC by the EULA prohibition?
Imagine:
MS: UNIX admin is unsecure by design; ours is better!
Unix community: Yeah, but we were there before you put your hat on our tools... and you won't license it, damn you!
MS: Pay up or shut up! Mwhahahaha!
... remember when SCO claimed Linux violated their IP citing millions of LOCs "stolen" from their code that was licensed to IBM? Actually they claimed that the stuff IBM wrote for AIX wasn't really IBM's but SCO's under SCO's (viral) licence. I don't remember where this spectacular claim was driven to the ground but anyway here IBM is basing their undisputed facts on Copyright statements filed and assigned to them (legally approved and therefore factual proof)
Well, IBM is thowing at SCO the same argument: there's our code in your product, you claim it's yours where in fact it's ours. SCO claimed IBM wasn't allowed to leak their AIX code to Linux because of some ridiculous viral license and breached. Now IBM says SCO is distributing some IBM Linux code they aren't allowed to because they're breaching the license (GPL) under which it was released.
There's even a summary of all the evidence complete of line counts and package names (unlike SCO's mistery NDA'd evidence).
Gawd, I never thought lawyers could have a sense of humor!
Probably a mass of shitty VB that could & should be refactored to clean, EJB. I mean, hell! I've seen automated excel spreadsheets used as friggin' databases with query wizards tacked on! (and repeatedly taking down Excel in spectacular crash 'n burn) Isn't this kind of stuff something you want to clean up before it becomes too much of a jumble? Or do we want MSOffice to become today's COBOL?
Because a false sense of security is worse than no security at all. Imagine yourself at a cyberlounge browsing on a Win98 machine. Would you dare trust it to login into anything like your webmail or bank-online? Now imagine yourself in front of a WinXP SP2 public terminal, warm, fuzzy, safe? Do you still trust it for your webmail or bank? Perhaps a/.er wouldn't in any case but the avg. user would think it safe enough because of all the marketing and talk about this SP2 thing and Trusted Computing Initiative.
Specifically MS simply brushed up the security zones in IE without planting the MAC mechanism in-kernel; perhaps to post-hoc make IE an intrinsic part of the OS and get people to beleive TCPA is a mandatory technology to overcome the limitations of current computing models that don't allow more security than MS's "state of the art" implementation in SP2. That's bull, we all (hopefully) know that, but the computer "consumer" doesn't and might be convinced to swallow the red pill. Goebbels, Nazi propaganda mastermind, said that a repeated and mass deployed lie would soon be perceived as truth.
I smell a fish here, either MS was too cheap to call in their kernel team on the issue choosing to give IE security zones a liftup or there's a scheme behind this choice. Otherwise they would be total utter fools to risk so much of the crediblity invested in this new "Starting Today, Microsoft plays it Safe" into something that anyone with a decent understanding would call inadequate.
Japanese and most of the far eastern industrial growth was driven by two main points:
1. blind employee loyalty. After all the company gave you a house, hospital, school for kids, wonderful trips abroad with your co-workers. Of course you'd sell off your life and soul but after all you could sink some of the gripe down a bottle.
2. banks & loans. Humongous loans. Many banks finally folded when the companies could pay back and this in turn broke down the system driving entire corporations close to the ground.
Actually there's a rather nasty social crisis in Japan... people are getting out of the serf mindframe and only after many got crushed by an economy that's still struggling.
There's two chickens on the table and two men; consider the followng cases A. One chicken each B. One man has two, the other none. AVG: a chicken per capita The power of statistics! Let me give an uneducated guess (couch economist): perhaps the US was better at taking research and scientific advancement to the market? Working 12 hr/day making corks isn't as productive as building more valuable goods? Pure slacking isn't good for anyone but so is living in an office mindlessly tying at a terminal. Once the target is hit go home, enjoy your life (you've only got one chance), your kids, your friends, yourself, a perfecly useless walk at the park, a book... do some self grooming, just don't make every moment of you existence a struggle (and a pain for your colleagues to endure your sourness;-)
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Good... and what's your share of the pie? BTW, last week I got an antibiotic paid by the italian health system because of a little flu; cost? A couple euros for the prescription although the pricetag read 35... (and I've read blogs by US citizens ripping their knee tendons and living with 'em because they were uninsured). Hmm, it's always difficult to talk about a system you grew up into as there's a risk of developing a Stockholm Syndrome. I admint that Italy is living fairly above it's possibilities but that's more to do with the employer/ee spirit: meat vs slave driver... and no attention to reasearch (not the theoretical, I mean basic stuff like IT) but simple quick buck. Listen USians... in the seventies many of you folks could afford a decent home, schooling and medical care off a single wage. Today a family is skitting just abouve poverty with two fulltime jobs, no vacations and just make shure you don't catch a cold or else: there goes an income and 2-300 bucks for meds... I'm pretty happy over here, I'm just a bit wary for Italy and the lousy trend it's takes in the last couple of years perhaps I might move to DE... heh, think they're slumping? Yeah, but they took unto themselves old east-DE... wouldn't that slow anyone?
That's a stupid argument. Listen, you don't shoot a damn rover on mars for the sole only purpose of cooking rocks and sniffing for water. It's like F1 racing: all research poured on those cars are quickly commoditized and offered to the public. Do you think humans are so utterly insane to burn all that money & effort to call ET or win a damn GP? So when I read about those rovers debugged and rebooted remotely I get the warm fuzzy feeling that med equipment or Airbus control systems will get an upgrade soon and that I'm flying my ass on some solidly debugged & engineered device (I've read an article on NASA's sw developemt teams... weeks of meetings and meditation before a single line would change... expensive, but that made them to the moon). I'd never trust my life on an mp3 player, nobody should... and BTW, given that MS waives all responsibility and fitness for any purpouse (explicitly on life threatening operations) how the hell can med-tech corps certify their tools? Are they accepting the risk?
MTBF*AVG(survivors' suit) [$]
grr...
Crappy cabling all over the place in spite of clips & belts (uh, but perhaps it's UV ready right!?).
Breathing power switch done wrong (they understood it backwards, it's distracting... ask the Apple designers)
A lot of fans! Hmm, helicopter or whisper? They look like off the mill beigebox fan, one can only hope the motherboard supports speed scaling like that other PeeCee would-(rather not)-be;-)
Oh well, I'll continue lusting for that G5... wake me up when a PC manufacturer finally gets to properly copy Apple's designs
Uh, Eclipse cheatsheets! I thought they were too kewel to be something non-Apple;-) No seriously, I was thinking of building a client app using eclipse platform & cheatsheets... we can only hope Microsoft hasn't patented the damn thing!
cheers!
Hey, thanks but I really don't know much about uware design. Anyway I suppose on the recieving end you'd have the same problems as separated "captators" are injecting phase delayed versions of the same signal. If the source is up front reaching the antennas at the same distance (in phase) with equal cables the signal will sum (possibly overdriving the LNA because of the doubled antenna gain). If the source is off axis the signals injected by the antennas into the amp will be out of phase possibly canceling. It's basically a lumped directional antenna.
that would whack the impedance of the output line. Even if you retuned the line with some passive component you'd end up with nasty losses, reflections on the bifurcations and phase interference between the antennas; this kind of stuff is only worthwhile if you're making a phased array (now that'd be fun: make an access point that tracks your position and target enough power to your receiver. but you're still linited by your laptop antenna range & power).
Fine, I'm not an expert NT admin but the link you provided on object manager somehow proves my point. The linked page begins by enumerating the bugs of the system provider interface to such a crucial security feature. Now, let's not fool ourself, enforcing chroot and namespace isolation isn't rocket science. Trouble is, MS just provides a useless and buggy handle for it and this I find unacceptable. They claim to provide low TCO but I'm still required to google around the damn web for some freeware (oh the despised freeware!) to get usable access to a fundamental security feature!? No, I'm not buying a quad xeon ibm brass, loading server 2k3 and THEN hunt for a bloody freeware! I'd rather go all the way and go linux/bsd. After all if there's a sloppy loose end I'm perfecly aware about it on linux, and encouraged to share the plug...
If you're talking workgroup management I agree with you. NFS isn't a viable solution and until recently cifs:// was pretty difficult to implement correcly. Mind you, it works splendidly on an ldap backend, and supports mutual certificate authentication (on server AND on client)...
What I was talking about isn't pr0n servers you little flamebait smuck but enterprise web frontends... (and BTW, I've yet to see a properly and reliably funcional corporate desktop installation...)
UNIX security model is much more easy to grasp and implement than whatever MS kludged together in the various pro versions of their environment. There's no such thing as chroot/jail in windows isn't it? I'm perfectly aware that an XP registry is rife with cryptic and mulply overridden account policy keys that only a specialized enterprise admin might make something out of it (that's probably why SPs often FSCK up deployed servers...).
When a security hole exposes a 'nobody' or 'www' jailed server I can patch it in no time being 100% shure the only service involved is the one I'm working on; sometimes I go to the point of duplicating shared libs (openssl) for the various servers...
Windows is unsafe because of sloppy code and also because it has a byzantine security model.
I believe the only Matrixes worth watching are: - the original one - Animatrix Actually I've bought both of 'em (see MPAA, I'm no freeloader) and thoroughly enjoyed them. Animatrix's theme is the personal interpretation of the Matrix theme by some really kick ass artists. So much in there, cool music, very different "handwriting". The Matrix is just itself; so cool & evocative you're willing to give up the inconsistencies just for the sake of believeing in it. All the rest... a run for the buck...
... and it's sweet desktop (notice the unix screenshots?) metaphor. Spatial is good, but it's counterpart is metadata driven virtual folders; extended attributes aren't only for acls...
A userland daemon, fam monitoring and a berkleydb hanging around. It's not that the pieces aren't there...
Ok, I'll bite... Dashboard is neat as much as Konfabulator; I'm just wondering how hard on resources it is. You see, when Konf. hit/. I sheepishly proceeded to download it, ohh it, check out the cool widgets! Then I got bored, many widgets bore the disclaimer "hey, I wrote it off a boring weekend!" and noticed the fan humming... I have a laptop, I don't care for a translucent gooey can showing off how fast it's draining my battery. So if Apple's stuff is fast and chews less juice I'm all for it; (sarcasm) had it been really original they sould have patented it right!? (end sarcasm) On a side note... everyone here must be missing the real people getting pissed off: Adobe. What will they do to justify Photoshop's price tag now that Core Graphics will make writing very close software as easy as a shareware tutorial!
Hmm... I recall a shareware that does something very similar... (you'd hit cmd-space or some other combination and a floating menu in the upper right corner would sift through contacts, files, etc as you typed) heh! It's cool that Apple has the resources and openmindedness to take a decent idea and polish it to the extreme; bitch & moan about "Apple ripping off the indies"? Well, an Exposé-like app was floating around in the 10.2 days, but it's usefullness was small because of it's sorry performance. Shure, a cool concept (Exposé IS cool) but some things you can't tack on like an aftermarket chrome exhaust (like many Windows apps...)
So, given the screenshots Apple's inspiration is pretty clear (if only I could remember the app's name!)... it depends on how blazing fast their interpretation is (after all they have the will, money and recision power to plug in a live query sub in the filesystem core... )
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Ehm... what's wrong with JWS? Doesn't it work on your workstation? It does on mine... rather well actually. So, again... care to explain the statement or are you just trolling?
Nota bene the last sentence especially; I agree totally.
I suspect sshd with priv separation works like that. I haven't nitpicked either M$'s patent nor SSH's process but they look terribly similar. Can someone with better knowlege of the details reply? Does it constitute prior art? And most importantly: is M$ targeting UNIX's most important networked administration application considering how they attacked VNC by the EULA prohibition?
Imagine:MS: UNIX admin is unsecure by design; ours is better!
Unix community: Yeah, but we were there before you put your hat on our tools... and you won't license it, damn you! MS: Pay up or shut up! Mwhahahaha!
... remember when SCO claimed Linux violated their IP citing millions of LOCs "stolen" from their code that was licensed to IBM? Actually they claimed that the stuff IBM wrote for AIX wasn't really IBM's but SCO's under SCO's (viral) licence. I don't remember where this spectacular claim was driven to the ground but anyway here IBM is basing their undisputed facts on Copyright statements filed and assigned to them (legally approved and therefore factual proof)
Well, IBM is thowing at SCO the same argument: there's our code in your product, you claim it's yours where in fact it's ours.
SCO claimed IBM wasn't allowed to leak their AIX code to Linux because of some ridiculous viral license and breached.
Now IBM says SCO is distributing some IBM Linux code they aren't allowed to because they're breaching the license (GPL) under which it was released.
There's even a summary of all the evidence complete of line counts and package names (unlike SCO's mistery NDA'd evidence).
Gawd, I never thought lawyers could have a sense of humor!
Care to get into an argument with a solid state physicist about the "existance" of Holes in a crystal band?
Probably a mass of shitty VB that could & should be refactored to clean, EJB. I mean, hell! I've seen automated excel spreadsheets used as friggin' databases with query wizards tacked on! (and repeatedly taking down Excel in spectacular crash 'n burn) Isn't this kind of stuff something you want to clean up before it becomes too much of a jumble? Or do we want MSOffice to become today's COBOL?
Because a false sense of security is worse than no security at all. Imagine yourself at a cyberlounge browsing on a Win98 machine. Would you dare trust it to login into anything like your webmail or bank-online? Now imagine yourself in front of a WinXP SP2 public terminal, warm, fuzzy, safe? Do you still trust it for your webmail or bank? Perhaps a /.er wouldn't in any case but the avg. user would think it safe enough because of all the marketing and talk about this SP2 thing and Trusted Computing Initiative.
Specifically MS simply brushed up the security zones in IE without planting the MAC mechanism in-kernel; perhaps to post-hoc make IE an intrinsic part of the OS and get people to beleive TCPA is a mandatory technology to overcome the limitations of current computing models that don't allow more security than MS's "state of the art" implementation in SP2. That's bull, we all (hopefully) know that, but the computer "consumer" doesn't and might be convinced to swallow the red pill. Goebbels, Nazi propaganda mastermind, said that a repeated and mass deployed lie would soon be perceived as truth.
I smell a fish here, either MS was too cheap to call in their kernel team on the issue choosing to give IE security zones a liftup or there's a scheme behind this choice. Otherwise they would be total utter fools to risk so much of the crediblity invested in this new "Starting Today, Microsoft plays it Safe" into something that anyone with a decent understanding would call inadequate.
Japanese and most of the far eastern industrial growth was driven by two main points: 1. blind employee loyalty. After all the company gave you a house, hospital, school for kids, wonderful trips abroad with your co-workers. Of course you'd sell off your life and soul but after all you could sink some of the gripe down a bottle. 2. banks & loans. Humongous loans. Many banks finally folded when the companies could pay back and this in turn broke down the system driving entire corporations close to the ground. Actually there's a rather nasty social crisis in Japan... people are getting out of the serf mindframe and only after many got crushed by an economy that's still struggling.
There's two chickens on the table and two men; consider the followng cases ;-)
A. One chicken each
B. One man has two, the other none.
AVG: a chicken per capita
The power of statistics!
Let me give an uneducated guess (couch economist): perhaps the US was better at taking research and scientific advancement to the market? Working 12 hr/day making corks isn't as productive as building more valuable goods?
Pure slacking isn't good for anyone but so is living in an office mindlessly tying at a terminal. Once the target is hit go home, enjoy your life (you've only got one chance), your kids, your friends, yourself, a perfecly useless walk at the park, a book... do some self grooming, just don't make every moment of you existence a struggle (and a pain for your colleagues to endure your sourness
Good... and what's your share of the pie?
BTW, last week I got an antibiotic paid by the italian health system because of a little flu; cost? A couple euros for the prescription although the pricetag read 35... (and I've read blogs by US citizens ripping their knee tendons and living with 'em because they were uninsured).
Hmm, it's always difficult to talk about a system you grew up into as there's a risk of developing a Stockholm Syndrome. I admint that Italy is living fairly above it's possibilities but that's more to do with the employer/ee spirit: meat vs slave driver... and no attention to reasearch (not the theoretical, I mean basic stuff like IT) but simple quick buck.
Listen USians... in the seventies many of you folks could afford a decent home, schooling and medical care off a single wage. Today a family is skitting just abouve poverty with two fulltime jobs, no vacations and just make shure you don't catch a cold or else: there goes an income and 2-300 bucks for meds...
I'm pretty happy over here, I'm just a bit wary for Italy and the lousy trend it's takes in the last couple of years perhaps I might move to DE... heh, think they're slumping? Yeah, but they took unto themselves old east-DE... wouldn't that slow anyone?
That's a stupid argument. Listen, you don't shoot a damn rover on mars for the sole only purpose of cooking rocks and sniffing for water. It's like F1 racing: all research poured on those cars are quickly commoditized and offered to the public. Do you think humans are so utterly insane to burn all that money & effort to call ET or win a damn GP? So when I read about those rovers debugged and rebooted remotely I get the warm fuzzy feeling that med equipment or Airbus control systems will get an upgrade soon and that I'm flying my ass on some solidly debugged & engineered device (I've read an article on NASA's sw developemt teams... weeks of meetings and meditation before a single line would change... expensive, but that made them to the moon). I'd never trust my life on an mp3 player, nobody should... and BTW, given that MS waives all responsibility and fitness for any purpouse (explicitly on life threatening operations) how the hell can med-tech corps certify their tools? Are they accepting the risk? MTBF*AVG(survivors' suit) [$] grr...
Uhh, the cheap looks are horrible.
Crappy cabling all over the place in spite of clips & belts (uh, but perhaps it's UV ready right!?).
Breathing power switch done wrong (they understood it backwards, it's distracting... ask the Apple designers)
A lot of fans! Hmm, helicopter or whisper? They look like off the mill beigebox fan, one can only hope the motherboard supports speed scaling like that other PeeCee would-(rather not)-be ;-)
Oh well, I'll continue lusting for that G5... wake me up when a PC manufacturer finally gets to properly copy Apple's designs
Uh, Eclipse cheatsheets! I thought they were too kewel to be something non-Apple ;-) No seriously, I was thinking of building a client app using eclipse platform & cheatsheets... we can only hope Microsoft hasn't patented the damn thing!
cheers!
Hey, thanks but I really don't know much about uware design. Anyway I suppose on the recieving end you'd have the same problems as separated "captators" are injecting phase delayed versions of the same signal. If the source is up front reaching the antennas at the same distance (in phase) with equal cables the signal will sum (possibly overdriving the LNA because of the doubled antenna gain). If the source is off axis the signals injected by the antennas into the amp will be out of phase possibly canceling. It's basically a lumped directional antenna.
that would whack the impedance of the output line. Even if you retuned the line with some passive component you'd end up with nasty losses, reflections on the bifurcations and phase interference between the antennas; this kind of stuff is only worthwhile if you're making a phased array (now that'd be fun: make an access point that tracks your position and target enough power to your receiver. but you're still linited by your laptop antenna range & power).
Probably because it runs in a junkband everybody avoids and protect against. Oh, what the hell... in bocca al lupo Steve!
Fine, I'm not an expert NT admin but the link you provided on object manager somehow proves my point. The linked page begins by enumerating the bugs of the system provider interface to such a crucial security feature. Now, let's not fool ourself, enforcing chroot and namespace isolation isn't rocket science. Trouble is, MS just provides a useless and buggy handle for it and this I find unacceptable. They claim to provide low TCO but I'm still required to google around the damn web for some freeware (oh the despised freeware!) to get usable access to a fundamental security feature!? No, I'm not buying a quad xeon ibm brass, loading server 2k3 and THEN hunt for a bloody freeware! I'd rather go all the way and go linux/bsd. After all if there's a sloppy loose end I'm perfecly aware about it on linux, and encouraged to share the plug...
If you're talking workgroup management I agree with you. NFS isn't a viable solution and until recently cifs:// was pretty difficult to implement correcly. Mind you, it works splendidly on an ldap backend, and supports mutual certificate authentication (on server AND on client)... What I was talking about isn't pr0n servers you little flamebait smuck but enterprise web frontends... (and BTW, I've yet to see a properly and reliably funcional corporate desktop installation...)
UNIX security model is much more easy to grasp and implement than whatever MS kludged together in the various pro versions of their environment. There's no such thing as chroot/jail in windows isn't it? I'm perfectly aware that an XP registry is rife with cryptic and mulply overridden account policy keys that only a specialized enterprise admin might make something out of it (that's probably why SPs often FSCK up deployed servers...). When a security hole exposes a 'nobody' or 'www' jailed server I can patch it in no time being 100% shure the only service involved is the one I'm working on; sometimes I go to the point of duplicating shared libs (openssl) for the various servers... Windows is unsafe because of sloppy code and also because it has a byzantine security model.
I believe the only Matrixes worth watching are:
- the original one
- Animatrix
Actually I've bought both of 'em (see MPAA, I'm no freeloader) and thoroughly enjoyed them. Animatrix's theme is the personal interpretation of the Matrix theme by some really kick ass artists. So much in there, cool music, very different "handwriting".
The Matrix is just itself; so cool & evocative you're willing to give up the inconsistencies just for the sake of believeing in it.
All the rest... a run for the buck...
... and it's sweet desktop (notice the unix screenshots?) metaphor. Spatial is good, but it's counterpart is metadata driven virtual folders; extended attributes aren't only for acls... A userland daemon, fam monitoring and a berkleydb hanging around. It's not that the pieces aren't there...
Ok, I'll bite... Dashboard is neat as much as Konfabulator; I'm just wondering how hard on resources it is. You see, when Konf. hit /. I sheepishly proceeded to download it, ohh it, check out the cool widgets! Then I got bored, many widgets bore the disclaimer "hey, I wrote it off a boring weekend!" and noticed the fan humming... I have a laptop, I don't care for a translucent gooey can showing off how fast it's draining my battery. So if Apple's stuff is fast and chews less juice I'm all for it; (sarcasm) had it been really original they sould have patented it right!? (end sarcasm)
On a side note... everyone here must be missing the real people getting pissed off: Adobe. What will they do to justify Photoshop's price tag now that Core Graphics will make writing very close software as easy as a shareware tutorial!
Nope, LauchBar... bt I'll check out FinderPop too... I'm getting lost in all these javadocs! ;-)
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Hmm... I recall a shareware that does something very similar... (you'd hit cmd-space or some other combination and a floating menu in the upper right corner would sift through contacts, files, etc as you typed) heh! It's cool that Apple has the resources and openmindedness to take a decent idea and polish it to the extreme; bitch & moan about "Apple ripping off the indies"? Well, an Exposé-like app was floating around in the 10.2 days, but it's usefullness was small because of it's sorry performance. Shure, a cool concept (Exposé IS cool) but some things you can't tack on like an aftermarket chrome exhaust (like many Windows apps...) So, given the screenshots Apple's inspiration is pretty clear (if only I could remember the app's name!)... it depends on how blazing fast their interpretation is (after all they have the will, money and recision power to plug in a live query sub in the filesystem core... )
You wear a casio lcd wristwatch (with integrated calculator) don't you? ;-)