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Steve Jobs Undergoes Cancer Surgery

Zycom writes "Reuters reports that doctors successfully removed a cancerous tumor from the pancreas of Apple CEO Steve Jobs. In an e-mail he sent out from his hospital bed after the surgery he explained the disease, saying, "I had a very rare form of pancreatic cancer called an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor, which represents about 1 percent of the total cases of pancreatic cancer diagnosed each year, and can be cured by surgical removal if diagnosed in time (mine was)." He will not need to have any chemotherapy or radiation therapy and has an excellent prognosis. While he is recuperating, Tim Cook, head of worldwide sales and operations, will run the company."

413 comments

  1. Alrighty then! by erick99 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Jobs was informed, prior to surgery, that there were no user serviceable parts within his pancreas but he could have his pancreas refurbished/rebuilt for a reasonable fee.

    Cheers!

    Erick

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    1. Re:Alrighty then! by a3217055 · · Score: 0

      This is not even news worthy, but good he is in good condition.

    2. Re:Alrighty then! by tattoi.nobori · · Score: 1
      I can't decide if that's funny, or the most tasteless First Post ever...

      If the former, haha! If the latter, congratulations... I guess. A somewhat dubious honor..

      Cheers!

    3. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's Apple alright. He couldn't go with the standard pancreatic cancer, instead opting for the proprietary form.

    4. Re:Alrighty then! by EverDense · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have a prediction:

      Bill Gates will get cancer in about 10 years time.
      He will then file a slew of patents, like he was
      the first head of a major computing corporation
      to ever have it.

      All the Apple-ites will then point out that Steve
      Jobs had cancer, 10 years before Bill Gates.

      The more historical pedantic will then point out
      that the head of Xerox had cancer back in the 70s.

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    5. Re:Alrighty then! by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative
      Jobs was informed, prior to surgery, that there were no user serviceable parts within his pancreas but he could have his pancreas refurbished/rebuilt for a reasonable fee.

      Not quite- his warranty covers everything, except that little bit of his pancreas.

      (I discovered a few weeks ago that the little flippy part of my power adapter..duck-something is what the guy at the store called it... is not covered by warranty, supposedly. Probably because they break like crazy. 3-goddam-thousand-dollar laptop and they want to charge me $20 for the little flippy power plug bit).

    6. Re:Alrighty then! by stuffman64 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The most ironic thing about this, is that it is at least partially true. Former Xerox CEO David T. Kearns was diagnosed with sinus cancer in 1992.

      For those that don't know, Kearns was they guy in charge in the 80s during Xerox's turnaround.

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    7. Re:Alrighty then! by ericdano · · Score: 2, Funny
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    8. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know whats more funny, the grandparent comment or yours.

    9. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill Gates will get cancer in about 10 years time.

      He can download a patch for the cancer here.

      All the Apple-ites will then point out that Steve Jobs had cancer, 10 years before Bill Gates.

      However, Job's cancer evolved from here.

    10. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what's more funny, the grandparent or the fact that this isn't irony?

    11. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the non-irony irony is funniest of all

    12. Re:Alrighty then! by mattkime · · Score: 1

      I honestly don't understand how one could reasonably break that part. its awfully damn tough - and simple.

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    13. Re:Alrighty then! by dnahelix · · Score: 1, Funny

      I've always thought those Xerox machines made a funny smell...

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    14. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Steve has announced generation five of his pancreas, and is also announcing his Pancreas Mini. The best thing is, he can have his pancreas in funky colors now.

    15. Re:Alrighty then! by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 1

      Jobs should post a .jpeg of the tumor on the Apple website so we can see if it's translucent blue.

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    16. Re:Alrighty then! by danamania · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...and couldn't resist putting a bit of a spin on it.

    17. Re:Alrighty then! by jeffhot · · Score: 1

      This is clearly a lie, everyone knows the duck head only costs $9 and change to replace.

    18. Re:Alrighty then! by kdogg73 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I understand that Microsoft is flipping for the bill on Steve's treatment. Spare no expense for their ongoing idea source.

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    19. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the US stats are 1 in 2 men will get cancer,

      1 in 3 women,will get cancer

      I know, Iv been there!

    20. Re:Alrighty then! by RiscIt · · Score: 2, Insightful


      "Bill Gates will get cancer in about 10 years time."

      Just think of all the money that will get dumped in to cancer research then...

    21. Re:Alrighty then! by simcop2387 · · Score: 1

      However, Job's cancer evolved from here.

      well what did you expect? it is dying you know.

    22. Re:Alrighty then! by djtripp · · Score: 1

      I never knew cancer was funny. LAF

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    23. Re:Alrighty then! by SKorvus · · Score: 1

      $9 or so if the service provider has it in stock (which any should, but maintaining supplies of rarely-needed items can be expensive). $20 if they have to special order it from Apple.

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    24. Re:Alrighty then! by gaudior · · Score: 1

      I suspect Mr. Jobs may make a substantial contribution to cancer research after this, if he doesn't already do so. He may not have quite as much money as Mr. Gates, but he is certainly not worried about making the next rent payment.

  2. now watch Gates copy him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    and remove his anus

    1. Re:now watch Gates copy him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But then there would be no Bil... um never mind I get it now.

    2. Re:now watch Gates copy him by squidinkcalligraphy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then where would Microsoft pull its software from?

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    3. Re:now watch Gates copy him by tbone1 · · Score: 1
      And just what, pray tell, would that leave? A bunch of unfashionable, musty cotton-poly blend clothing?

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  3. Virex 7.2 caught it. by SYFer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your virus definitions (DAT files) were last updated June 09, 2004, and may be out of date. Please download and install new ones as soon as possible.

    Your virus definitions were last updated on July 21, 2004, and appear to be up to date.

    Cleaning Scan started at 2004-08-01 20:04:43 -0700Scanning /Users/steve/pancreas/*
    Scanning file /Users/steve/pancreas/cells.org...

    Summary report on /Users/steve/pancreas/*
    File(s)
    Total files: ... 50
    Clean: ... 49
    Not scanned: ... 0
    Cleaned: ... 1

    Congratulations, Steve jobs! Huzzah! LiveSTRONG!

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    1. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by SYFer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Uh, sorry to double up, but BTW: LIVESTRONG is Lance Armstrong's Cancer Survivor non-profit. That yellow armband that you see on John Kerry's wrist--it's related to this. If you are a MAC (couldn't resist) fanboi, please give a few bucks in Steve's name.

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    2. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love Media Access Control!

      I'm donating right away so Lance Armstrong will have more time to make propaganda commercials for the big drug companies!

    3. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by cytoman · · Score: 0

      I don't mean to nit-pick... but Steve Jobs was NOT infected by a virus... he had cancer... it's like a piece of code getting corrupted and messing up the program... kinda like in Matrix when the agent becomes like a cancer and starts spreading throughout the system.

    4. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If you are a MAC..."

      You're so ignorant you can't even insult right.

      Idiot.

    5. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by SYFer · · Score: 1

      That's the joke I "couldn't resist," moron.

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    6. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you are in fact nit picking. It was an "analogy," my naive friend.

    7. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by EvilAlien · · Score: 1, Insightful
      What does Media Access Control or Mandatory Access Control have anything do with this?

      BTW, if you are going to give money to a cancer survivor non-profit in anybody's name, how about you do it in the name of a non-megalomaniac who can't afford to buy his way out of relatively trivial cancerous tumors?

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    8. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lance Armstrong: Oh crap, I got cancer! Oh well, nothing a little steroids can't cure... Don't mess with Texas!

    9. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is he doing good? Is more money being raised due to name recognition? Yes and yes.

      So shut the fuck up. He is doing the world a favour.

    10. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really don't consider any cancerous tumors to be "relatively trivial". The cause is a worthy one, even if you don't happen to agree with the namesake.

    11. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50 pancreases? (spelling nazis please go ahead)

  4. Nothing like cancer... by nmoog · · Score: 5, Funny

    To keep the "funny" posts away.

    1. Re:Nothing like cancer... by Baricom · · Score: 2

      Agreed. I wish him well.

    2. Re:Nothing like cancer... by johnrpenner · · Score: 0


      all the way -- with you steve.
      the world has a lot to thank you for,
      a lot of people are glad that you are well! :-)

    3. Re:Nothing like cancer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Offtopic. That's funny.

    4. Re:Nothing like cancer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then, to take the piss, they mod you as funny. -- Now *thats* funny.

    5. Re:Nothing like cancer... by Bertie · · Score: 1

      Offtopic? Has Bill Gates got his mod points through again?

    6. Re:Nothing like cancer... by tiger99 · · Score: 1

      Yes. Having had cancer myself, of the kidney, I can confirm that it is not a nice experience.

  5. Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It was iSurgery for an iCancerous iTumor.

    1. Re:Correction by napesjp · · Score: 1

      It's funny because it's cancer.

  6. If I were the surgeon... by TiMac · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I don't think I'd be able to resist the temptation to say "By the way, I'm a hardcore Windows fan" right as he went under anesthesia. Then tell him the truth when he came back around.

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    1. Re:If I were the surgeon... by TiMac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All kidding aside, I'm more than glad he's going to be okay. He's done more for the computer industry than most.

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    2. Re:If I were the surgeon... by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 1
      look; gawk; talk; date; wine; unzip; strip; touch; finger; head; mount; fsck; more; yes; spray; umount; sleep; leave

      I think there is a "kernel panic", somewhere between, gawk and talk.

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    3. Re:If I were the surgeon... by John+Courtland · · Score: 1

      I got up to finger and BASH freaked. ^C took care of that, then fsck started warning me that I was about to rape my drives. The rest didn't do much.

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    4. Re:If I were the surgeon... by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      I'm worried about that "spray" command. And from what I hear, so is she.

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    5. Re:If I were the surgeon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why he's the surgeon and you're just telling jokes on Slashdot. :)

      No, I'm kidding...

    6. Re:If I were the surgeon... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      ...I don't think I'd be able to resist the temptation to say "By the way, I'm a hardcore Windows fan" right as he went under anesthesia. Then tell him the truth when he came back around.

      Would you *really* say that to him, knowing that there was the possibility, however small, that this might be the last thing he ever hears?
      That would just be too cruel. Sorry.

      OTOH, if it was Bill Gates, I'd tell him I was a fanatical Linux zealot just as the anaesthetics kicked in, and I was wielding the knife.

      As for Darl McBride, I'd tie him down, not bother with the anaesthetic and [ ... THIS SECTION DELETED ON ADVICE OF LAWYERS ... ].

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    7. Re:If I were the surgeon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regarding your signature:

      look; gawk; talk; date; wine; unzip; strip; touch; finger; head; mount; fsck; more; yes; spray; umount; sleep; leave

      Shouldn't whois be right after sleep?

    8. Re:If I were the surgeon... by downlo · · Score: 1

      I'd tell him that the life support system was running windows.

    9. Re:If I were the surgeon... by tuatara222 · · Score: 1

      As cited earlier, that would be too cruel-hell, that should scare the bejesus out of Gates, too! (who I certainly would tell!)

  7. RDF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess too much RDF causes cancer....

  8. All Jokes Aside by orion024 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm glad all is going well for him. He's lucky he fell into that rare 1%. Pancreatic cancer is one of the more deadly types of cancer.

    1. Re:All Jokes Aside by nic+barajas · · Score: 1

      No kidding about the rarity. Although he stated in the e-mail that it was at the very least treatable, compared the the more widely recognized and uncurable pancreatic cancer.

    2. Re:All Jokes Aside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck, Steve Jobs!

    3. Re:All Jokes Aside by IBX · · Score: 1, Informative

      surgery success does not guarantee a cure. Cure means staying 5+ years without remission.

    4. Re:All Jokes Aside by nic+barajas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never said anything about being cured. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery without and remission. Cancer is such a terrible disease for everybody it afflicts, whether it be the CEO of a major corporation or a small child.

    5. Re:All Jokes Aside by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Money and regular checkups will do wonders for you.

      LK

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    6. Re:All Jokes Aside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...but at least it's treatable. Other pancreatic cancer = "dude, you got 6 months to live. Here's your morphine drip. You'll need it in a month or two."

    7. Re:All Jokes Aside by It'sYerMam · · Score: 1
      I'm a large child, you insensitive clod!

      ... Oh, wait, I never had cancer...

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  9. Apple is Doomed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Obligatory Apple is Doomed Comment.

    1. Re:Apple is Doomed! by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      Obligatory Apple is Doomed Comment.
      All the same, what do you think would happen to Apple if Jobs died? The Vision Thing(tm) is a big part of their appeal, so who would carry on in his place?

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  10. Detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "can be cured by surgical removal if diagnosed in time (mine was)"

    How do you dected pancreatic cancer early, i didnt know you could screen for it.

    1. Re:Detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Guys with insane wealth get preventative yearly CT scans.

    2. Re:Detection? by erick99 · · Score: 2, Informative
      You develop any of a host of symptoms that cause you to see your doctor, who, in the course of diagnosing what ails you, discovers that your problem is within your pancreas. Sort of like going to a physician because of "stress headaches" and finding out that you have a brain tumour.

      Cheers,

      Erick

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    3. Re:Detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Cancer in the pancreas often leads to urinating blood. It also hurts pretty badly. And the process for testing for a tumor is... unpleasant (personally, I would rather have them knock me out beforehand).

    4. Re:Detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Ah, but by this time it is too late. I know this is as I have a parent who died of pancreatic cancer.

    5. Re:Detection? by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1, Interesting
      This is actually an interesting question. I am not specifically aware of any general screening possible for pancreatic cancer either. There are many blood markers that can be positive for specific cancer types, but it seems more likely that an MRI or CT scan for something else (unrelated) showed this tumor. Somebody else mentioned some uber-blood screening tests - I've never heard of these, but it does sound like a good idea. In fact, I'm surprised more hasn't been done on that.


      In any case, he's insanely lucky. Pancreatic cancer in general is very bad news - very difficult area to get to, tough to treat.

    6. Re:Detection? by paxil · · Score: 3, Informative


      This is actually an interesting question. I am not specifically aware of any general screening possible for pancreatic cancer either. There are many blood markers that can be positive for specific cancer types, but it seems more likely that an MRI or CT scan for something else (unrelated) showed this tumor.


      Actualy, that is probobly not how it went down.

      One can think of the pancreas as functionaly divided into two systems: the exocrine pancreas and the endocrine pancreas.

      The exocrine pancreas is involved in the digestion of food and is where the vast majority of pancreatic tumors occur. One of the reasons they are so often fatal is that tumors of the exocrine pancreas rarely produce symptoms befor they extend into other structures.

      The endocrine pancreas produces several hormones, including insulin, glucogon, VIP, somatostatin, and so on. Tumors of this portion of the pancreas often do produce symptoms secondary to overproduction of one or more of these hormones.

      Jobs tumor was one of the endocrine types (he does not say more specificaly) so it would not be unusual for his tumor to have prompted studies which led to its detection.

      All just speculation, of course.

    7. Re:Detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yearly full-body x-rays?! Probably not a good idea.

      MRI scan maybe, but not CT scans. That'd be more likely to cause cancer than detect it.

    8. Re:Detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Often, things like this are detected when looking for something else. My VERY early primary liver cancer was detected inadvertantly during a followup scan due to some kidney stones (Kidney stones saved my life!)

      Just as likely, he gets an annual CT and it picked it up. Otherwise, by the time you have symptoms you are generally in trouble.

    9. Re:Detection? by tiger99 · · Score: 1
      Surely an annual CT is likely to cause cancer? If you want an annual scan, best make it an MRI, about as unhealthy as a few minutes use of a mobile phone. But the CT scan uses X-rays.......

      My kidney cancer may, or may not, have been related to a vastly excessive number of X-rays about 8 years previously, looking for a stone in the other kidney, which was duly dealt with. But why they had to keep X-raying both, when the stone was clearly in one, beats me. And, one hospital lost all the X-rays taken in another.....

      The best set of pictures I have are all MRI scans, but for no good reason the equipment is under-utilised so a scan costs far too much. The running costs of the machine are fairly fixed, it should be in constant use, with X-rays only used when absolutely necessary, IMHO.

  11. If Jobs wasn't there by usefool · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would like to ask what would happen if, one day, Steve Jobs wasn't there for Apple anymore, will it still be as innovative as before? (not that I wish anything bad happens to him)

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    1. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by johnny_sas · · Score: 1

      There was an article recently about this, and I think it was referenced on slashdot (try doing a search)

    2. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by JamesKPolk · · Score: 1

      Well, why don't you just look back to the time when Jobs wasn't at Apple? Let's see... their OS stopped advancing, their profits disappeared, and people were predicting their collapse all the time.

      Jobs comes back, and you get iMac, OS X, servers, iPod, and good times.

    3. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by Basehart · · Score: 1

      Apple would take quite a hit if Jobs suddenly stopped. It might be a good time to start showcasing some new faces regardless of the good prognosis, just in case some freak accident were to fell our man!

    4. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With Jobs out on sick leave, they might do something un-innovative like release a cheap G5 minitower.

    5. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by jcr · · Score: 1

      Well, why don't you just look back to the time when Jobs wasn't at Apple? Let's see... their OS stopped advancing, their profits disappeared, and people were predicting their collapse all the time.

      I've had the good fortune to meet six of Apple's senior VP's so far in my time here, and I've got to say that these people are simply a different crop than the oh-look-at-me-I'm-so-hip poseurs of the Sculley/Spindler era.

      If Steve were to get hit by the proverbial bus, there really are quite a few people at Apple who could do a fine job of running the place. And, as it happens, that's one of the things that I would credit to Steve: he's done a great job of recruitment at the senior executive level. (Sculley being the one notable exception, of course.)

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    6. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      All hail Jobs; he's successfully milking the Mac by selling routine OS service packs as full-price OS upgrades to fund Apple's transformation into a consumer electronics company.

      You know, every year Sculley was in charge, there were more Macs sold than the previous year. There hasn't been a single three-year period of year-on-year Mac unit sales growth since then. And in 2003 Apple sold fewer Mac units than it did in the last year of Sculley's reign as CEO.

      Jobs is slowly but surely killing the Mac. Oh, yes, Apple is doing fine, and will continue to do so. Selling iPods and other consumer electronics, not computers.

    7. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could rehire Sculley. He was the last Apple CEO to successfully sell computers, instead of consumer electronics devices and OS service packs.

    8. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by martingunnarsson · · Score: 1

      Uh, dude, it's not *if* he won't be there, it's *when*.

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    9. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by kimota · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I would like to ask what would happen if, one day, Steve Jobs wasn't there for Apple anymore, will it still be as innovative as before? (not that I wish anything bad happens to him)

      I'd say it would be a matter of perception. Jobs wasn't at Apple for, what, about a decade?, and Apple kept innovating without him, although admittedly they weren't hitting too many balls out of the park. Still, they maintained the whole 'cult of the Mac' thing.

      With Steve, you not only have the charisma of Apple and the Mac, but also a legendary, visionary "strong man" figure (and something of the trickster archetype, too, I'd say) to personify Apple and the Mac.

      If Jobs were to die or leave the company suddenly, I think you'd have several years of fans' worrying about the future and columnists' saying that the company was rudderless and lacking vision, as though everything Apple had done right with Steve at the helm had been solely his idea. Real innovations would be cast in the media as mis-steps, actual mistakes would be seen as the death knell of Apple, that sort of thing... Actually, it'd be a lot like now, only without the gloss and drama of Jobs as wunder-CEO.

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    10. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 1

      Jobs is slowly but surely killing the Mac. Oh, yes, Apple is doing fine, and will continue to do so. Selling iPods and other consumer electronics, not computers.

      Maybe. But do they need to continiue with the hardware-as-profit model? I think that Steve is positioning the company to license clones once again. Gotta get the Apple line moved to the G5 and beyond, and then they can allow others to make G4 clones and still have the means to distinguish their own computers. They are doing it with the iPod and HP; I wouldn't be surprised to see HP also announce a low-end G4 PPC machine with OS X.
      "But then Apple would have to support different chipsets, yadda yadda yadda..." No they wouldn't. They could set a spec, and if you wanted to sell OS X machines you had to use certain approved chipsets, grapihics cards, and the like.
      I would like to see Apple work closer with Linux as well. Some people think that Apple should release OS X for Intel. Why should they? Release Quartz for Linux, and start pushing software. Who else would like to see iLife for Linux? Help make Linux the x86 alternative, while working with vendors to make PPC clones that run OS X.
      I can dream, can't I?

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    11. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OS X runs on x86. They arn't selling it, but it exists.

    12. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 1

      OS X runs on x86. They arn't selling it, but it exists.

      Yeah, I know. And it will almost certainly never be released. As I understand it, the project is/was a fallback position, as it were, should Apple need it. However, with IBM now in the picture, I think that the future is set. Sure, there have been problems with the G5 and moving to 90nm, but from what I've read it seems that these issues are industry-wide. We'll see PPC clones. The software to make them a viable alternative to MS needs to be ready, however. Test it on the faithful for a few years, work the bugs out, before releasing it on the masses. That, my friend, is what's happening during step '???'.
      Let me tell you a bit more about my dream. How else Apple could distiguish itself. Take the iMac. It's been EOL'd, and a new one is on the horizon. Personally, I hope that the form factor doesn't get changed all that much. What I would like to see is the flat-panel monitor become detachable, slap one or two low-power G4s in it (400 or 500 MHz, no fan), and make the G5 base a, well, digital hub. 82.11g wireless for communications, to be later replaced by wireless FW. The monitor is essentially it's own tablet PC, communicates wirelessly with the hub, it could be easily reattached and used like a regular computer. Make peripheral devices for your t.v. and stereo (hmm... already got AirPort Express...) that could record or play back via wireless stream from the base. Suddenly, Apple has a unique offering for hardware, and cheap PPC clones would be possible.
      "But Apple licensed it's OS in the 80's and it almost killed them blah blah blah..." And what did they offer back then that set them apart from the clones? Better hardware? No. Killer software? No. Anything at all? No, not really. This time around, it would be different. So long as Apple could profit from software as well as hardware, licensing OS X makes sense.

      (tig)
      --
      Ignorance and prejudice and fear
      Walk hand in hand
  12. Slashdot Poll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much would you pay for Steve Job's tumor?

  13. I Wonder... by Op7imus_Prim3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    was the operation covered under Applecare?

    1. Re:I Wonder... by MBCook · · Score: 1
      I guess his parents bought the extended warranty.

      I wonder if he has a little Apple shaped scar now?

      --
      Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
  14. New Logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A rainbow colored pancreas with a bite out of it?

  15. 10 bucks says... by FusionDragon2099 · · Score: 0

    that the cancer is Bill Gates.

    1. Re:10 bucks says... by mcpkaaos · · Score: 1

      No, I think he was born in October.

      --
      It goes from God, to Jerry, to me.
  16. New Study shows by Cyberglich · · Score: 3, Funny

    That droping acid to design new computer poducts causes cancer.

    1. Re:New Study shows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That droping acid to design new computer poducts causes cancer."

      What are "poducts"? And how does one "drope" acid?

  17. What!? by xpurple · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean he's not immortal!?

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    http://www.xpurple.com
    1. Re:What!? by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

      Of course he is! He's alive and bet the odds.

    2. Re:What!? by Shky · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well quite clearly he is.

      --
      CC Licensed Serialized Story and Podcast: Ingenioustries
    3. Re:What!? by IBX · · Score: 1

      some of his pancreatic cels were...

    4. Re:What!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >You mean he's not immortal!?

      There can be only one.

      Be well, Steve.

    5. Re:What!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well quite clearly he is.

      We all are. At least so far...

  18. A link to his letter by ShallowThroat · · Score: 5, Informative
    --
    The "Insert Quote Here" line is almost as predictable as inserting an actual quote.
    1. Re:A link to his letter by daviddennis · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish Steve all the best, but I had to laugh at this line at the end of his letter:

      PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express.

      That's our Steve, always promoting his products!

      Of course that doesn't mean they're not great, and he doesn't have every right to do so, because they is and he does. But somehow I had to laugh, perhaps at his resiliance more than anything else. Life goes on, right?

      D

    2. Re:A link to his letter by skamp · · Score: 1
      I will be recuperating during the month of August, and expect to return to work in September.

      Will he make it to Apple Expo, in Paris, at the end of the month? I registered for his keynote...

    3. Re:A link to his letter by Lord+Flipper · · Score: 1

      When Eisner, over at Disney, was on the operating table, going under for quadruple-bypass surgery, he made a cel phone call to fire a couple guys... resilient and twisted.

  19. Re:God bless by erick99 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Clinton, on the other hand, was very articulate regardless of what his penis was doing at the time. It's a gift....

    Erick

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    http://www.busyweather.com/
  20. cancerous tumor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reuters reports that doctors successfully removed a cancerous tumor from the pancreas of Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

    They called it Microsoft.

    Yeah, yeah, cancer isn't funny. But karma whoring overcomes all.

    1. Re:cancerous tumor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But karma whoring overcomes all.

      Firstly, you need to be logged in to receive karma. Secondly, Funny doesn't help your karma.

    2. Re:cancerous tumor? by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 1

      The real question, though: Is it karma whoring when you post AC?

  21. c'mon by giampy · · Score: 2, Funny

    there must have been some pieces of APPLE somewhere there !!!

    --
    We learn from history that we learn nothing from history - Tom Veneziano
  22. Woah by dacarr · · Score: 1

    Nothing like serious illness to sober you up right quick. Steve, if you read this, hope you're doing well.

    --
    This sig no verb.
    1. Re:Woah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be this is karma coming back to bite him on the ass.

  23. iTumor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think chemo.

  24. Good to Hear by agraupe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've had a love/hate relationship with Macs (as with windows), but I still wouldn't wish this on anyone. It's good to hear that he is recovering.

  25. Re:No offense ... by telstar · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "But why slashdot of all places ?"
    • Simple as this ... no Steve Jobs ... no Apple computers ... no iMac, iCal, iPod, iBook ... you get the picture. He's one of the men that continues to shape the industry ... so when he goes under the knife, people tend to take notice.

  26. Double-take by mikeophile · · Score: 5, Funny

    While he is recuperating, Tim Cook, head of worldwide sales and operations, will run the company.

    Am I the only one who read the word "run" as "ruin" on first read?

    1. Re:Double-take by Planky · · Score: 1

      Not quite, but I was half expecting 'will run the company into the ground'

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    2. Re:Double-take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only one who read the word "run" as "ruin" on first read? That's correct, unfortunately Gil Amelio wasn't available to do the job again.

    3. Re:Double-take by trudyscousin · · Score: 1

      "Am I the only one who read the word "run" as "ruin" on first read?"

      Probably not. There appears, after all, to be no shortage of the letter 'I' at Apple.

      --
      Those who can, do. Those who can't, write technology blogs.
    4. Re:Double-take by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Why do these posts always get moderated +5 funny? Man. These "I read it wrong the first time" jokes are *never* funny... at least, I've yet to see a funny one.

    5. Re:Double-take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see any funny mods in your last 25 posts. Maybe it's your sense of humor that is faulty.

  27. Come on.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What else are we going to put up?

    "Gnome is better than KDE," Post #35135135 in the Gnome vs. KDE flamewars?

    How about "Look, I made my computer overclock to 10ghz with a refrigerator the size of a house!!!"

    Or, "With this dead stick and a coil of wire, I made my own Apple //e!"

  28. Get well.... by ericdano · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Get well Steve. You are an inspiration, and someone to look up to in the industry.

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    It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
    I moderate therefore I rule!
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    1. Re:Get well.... by DAldredge · · Score: 0, Troll

      Why?

      Woz is an inspiration and so are a host of others who have done things. All jobs has done is market other people ideas.

      If I am wrong, don't mod me down, respond and prove me wrong.

    2. Re:Get well.... by ericdano · · Score: 2, Informative

      Lets see. Start here and get enlightened.

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      It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
      I moderate therefore I rule!
      --
    3. Re:Get well.... by Moofie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Like it or not, an idea is only as good as its salesman.

      See my other response to your post on the subject.

      Woz didn't turn Apple around, leading the company to develop a kick ass new operating system and this sweet Powerbook I'm working on.

      Woz is a freakin' genius, and a real mensch. But just because he's great doesn't mean Jobs has to be not-great. Jobs is a great leader.

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
    4. Re:Get well.... by cocoa+moe · · Score: 1

      Yes. Get well Steve!

    5. Re:Get well.... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      When I had the good fortune to meet the Great Man, I thought he was an asshole. But, as a Koolaid swilling card carrying zealot, I was glad that he was our asshole.

      In addition to being the visionary leader of a great company that has created most of the computers I've used for the past 12 years, he's also made me a bit of money. More than I can say for most of the other assholes I've known.

      --
      It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
  29. best wishes by dalamarian · · Score: 1

    I wish the best for the man, because I don't want to see anybody go through the suffering of cancer. But I would be lying if I wasn't concerned over the future of his baby, Apple.

  30. Seriously, folks by justin_saunders · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is a good time to reflect on our own mortality.

    For all the whining, posing, Microsoft/Apple/Linux bashing we do; for all the work related stress we put up with and all the missed opportunities to spend time with loved ones; we only have a limited time on Earth.

    The most important thing is....
    ..eh who cares. I JUST WANNA PLAY DOOM 3.

    And get well Steve. Take the time off to think about how great a colour iPod with bluetooth would be.

    cheers,
    Justin.

    --

    "My cat's breath smells like cat food." - The Tao of Ralph Wiggum.
  31. Perfect....timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now would be the perfect time for a corporate coup attempt.

  32. Re:No offense ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. Statistics by ledbetter · · Score: 1

    Steve Jobs gets a cancer so rare it shows up in 1% of cancer cases. Making it just rarer than the OS he runs, which shows up in 2% of comptuers ;)

    And yes, we know that Steve Ballmer already has the much more statistically prevalent; Brain Cancer

  34. Re:God bless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  35. Oh, and one more thing... by tm2b · · Score: 4, Funny

    I find it interesting the way it was all handled, outside of stock trading hours.

    I wonder if his doctor had a dark enough sense of humor to say something like,
    "Well, we got your test results back. Your liver is fine, your heart is great, and your pulmonary health is excellent.
    Oh, and one more thing..."

    Great to hear he'll be fine.

    --
    "It is our blasphemy which has made us great, and will sustain us, and which the gods secretly admire in us." - Zelazny
    1. Re:Oh, and one more thing... by Plug · · Score: 1

      "Philip! I've got good news and bad news!"
      "Give it to me straight Terrence."
      "The good news is.. you have a clean bill of health."
      "Oh what a relief!"
      "The bad news is.. you have cancer!"

      (wav)

  36. Good thing he as pancreatic islet cell tumor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they caught it early, then he has a good chance of complete recovery. If it spread of if he had another form of pancreatic cancer, then he'd be dead meat. Pancreatic cancer has the worst 5-year survival rate of any cancer. Though I'm no fan of Apple, I hope he cheats death.

  37. Nothing to poke fun of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly... after seeing many relatives lose to cancer, it's good to see that Steve has an excellent prognosis...

    All nerdiness aside, I hope that Steve makes a full recovery... He's not someone I'd like to see taken off this planet any time soon.

    -AC

  38. Well You Know What They Say.... by Snagle · · Score: 5, Funny

    An apple a day keeps the cancer away.....oh....guess not.

    Get well soon steve

    1. Re:Well You Know What They Say.... by Phoe6 · · Score: 1

      Here, it goes..
      A doctor a day, keeps Apple on Bay. Get well Soon.Mr.Jobs.Our Sincere wishes.

      --
      Senthil
    2. Re:Well You Know What They Say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought is was: a reboot a day keeps the blue screens away.

  39. Ah-ha! by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Funny

    If an apple a day truly kept the doctor away then this never would have happened. I knew that saying was just marketing hype.

  40. Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by cytoman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now that his islet cells have been removed, I guess Steve Jobs is now a Type-1 diabetic, condemned to survive on iNSULIN iNJECTIONS like many others (including me). Or maybe he'll get one of those hi-tech insulin pump/blood glucose monitor combos... i hope that stem-cell research now accelerates its effort to find a cure for type-1 diabetes. Poor taste in humor acknowledged (see above use of iNSULIN) and apologies submitted in advance.

    1. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Performaman · · Score: 0, Funny

      I guess he'll introduce an Apple Insulin pump now. But it will only take proprietary, Apple-approved GRM (Genetic Rights Management) insulin, which you can buy for 99 cents per injection, or pay $9.99 for an entire day's worth.

      --

      I have gas, but my car uses petrol.
    2. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not really, you cannot remove all of the beta cells (the ones that produce insulin) in a pancreas w/o removing the entire thing.

      They just took out a tumor.

    3. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by useosx · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, there is not much economic incentive to find a cure for Diabetes...they just make too much damn money off those insulin shots...but if you join grassroots organizations working on these types of issues then maybe one day your dream can come true.

    4. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately, there is not much economic incentive to find a cure for Diabetes...they just make too much damn money off those insulin shots.

      Your statement presumes that those who currently sell insulin would be able to prevent the sellers of a cure from getting it to market.

      -jcr

      --
      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    5. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 0, Troll

      The real "disincentive" to diabetes research, at least with stem cells, is political. If you vote for Bush this November, you're basically voting against science and medical research.

      Scientists: Bush Distorts Science

      Scientists: Bush administration distorts research

      New pesticide rules let EPA skip wildlife agency reviews is the latest story of the Bush administration removing scientists from the loop when scientific findings might go against Bush's policies.

      --
      It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
    6. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Seoulstriker · · Score: 1

      Any science that you or the Union of Concerned Scientists disagree with is considered "distorted" science. Perhaps you and this group of overzealous egocentric scientists need to realize that science is not one dimensional, and that there are opposing viewpoints and opposing research in most scientific hot topics. You and the Union also fail to realize that you are the ones distorting science when you purport embryonic stem cells to be the savior of mankind, and completely dismiss adult stem cell research, which has already produced significant and numerous clinical treatments. Not a single treatment has come out from embryonic stem cell research. Next time, instead of focusing on the speck in my eye, you should look at the plank in your own.

      Truth is a bitch, ain't it?

      --
      I am defenseless. Use your button. Mod me down with all of your hatred.
    7. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      I purported nothing of the kind concerning stem cell research being the savior of mankind. I merely pointed out that the Bush administration is engaging in a certain type of behavior which is a dis-service to the scientific community, the American people, and the world at large.

      When you only accept scientific viewpoints that are sympathetic to your ideology or policies, then you are being one dimensional, at best.

      But instead of putting words into your mouth, why don't you tell us what you think is wrong with embryonic stem cell research? Why is research along these lines "distorted science"? I am curious if you can make the distinction between the scientific method and your own religious beliefs.

      --
      It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
    8. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Utter nonsense.

      Not spending lots of federal money on it doesn't mean that *no* money, or even that not lots of money will be available. In this case, it's not even true that there won't be federal funding for stem cell research; $250 million on it for this year. The stem cells in question, though, would be derived from sources other than viable fetal tissue.

      Any particular reason that you failed to note any of this, other, perhaps, than having an axe to grind? Or did you just not do your homework?

    9. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Your statement presumes that those who currently sell insulin would be able to prevent the sellers of a cure from getting it to market.

      Unfortunately that's more or less true. There are only a couple of manufacturers who would be in a position to manufacture the drugs (such as Glaxo-Wellcome or Smith-Klein) - the same people who make the insulin. Ask yourself this - what are they more likely to make money from: a cure that is needed once, or insulin that is needed regularly for life?

    10. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by jcr · · Score: 1

      No, it's not "more or less true". Anyone with a cure for diabetes would be in a position to make a fortune, and that kind of upside draws players into a market who may never have been there before.

      -jcr

      --
      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    11. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1
      There are only a couple of manufacturers who would be in a position to manufacture the drugs (such as Glaxo-Wellcome or Smith-Klein) - the same people who make the insulin.

      Does GlaxoSmithKline make insulin? There's no mention of it on their prescription medicines page, although a search for "insulin" on their Web site found a press release about an alliance to develop an oral insulin.

      The LookSmart page about major pharmaceutical companies lists 3 companies that I know produce insulin (Aventis, Bristol-Myers Squibb, and Lilly), and don't list another one (Novo Nordisk). They also list several companies that, as far as I know, don't, although Pfizer has an inhalable insulin (Exubera) under development (with Aventis and Nektar Theraputics).

  41. Re:No offense ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, the irony that your post gets modded as "Flamebait". Gotta love it around here...

  42. A Wake Up Call? by femto · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Remember that everyone is a potential dead person. Live your life as if you are going to be dead tomorrow.

    1. Re:A Wake Up Call? by juuri · · Score: 1

      That is a horrible way to live.

      If you live everyday like it is your last you will have never prepared for the future. Instead I think you would want to live everyday as "how you would like to be remembered if you were to die tomorrow".

      --
      --- I do not moderate.
    2. Re:A Wake Up Call? by capsteve · · Score: 1

      horrible way to live?
      no it's not.
      expect the worst, but hope for the best. eventually you will die, so the reality is to live fully for today; tomorrow may never come.

      --
      three can keep a secret, if two are dead - benjamin franklin
    3. Re:A Wake Up Call? by Shinglor · · Score: 1

      Live your life as if you are going to be dead tomorrow.

      Oh no, I'm too young to die! Why me? Why? *cries*

    4. Re:A Wake Up Call? by femto · · Score: 1
      > If you live everyday like it is your last you will have never prepared for the future. Instead I think you would want to live everyday as "how you would like to be remembered if you were to die tomorrow".

      I disagree. I think that is an implicitly selfish position. Here are my reasons:

      a) It implies that there is no future past your own death (tomorrow). That is false. Instead you can choose to live your life to the benefit of others, who will survive you.

      b) Personally, I think that one's own reputation being top priority is a tad narcissistic. Okay, you might end up with a good reputation, but that should be as a result of helping others, not by design. Here's a thought experiment. If one's own reputation is the overriding factor, would it be acceptable to live an 'evil' life behind a respectable farcade?

      Don't fall into the trap of automatically associating death with morbidity and assuming that hope is lost in the face of death. If death instills a sense of fear (apart from wonder of the unknown), I would contend that all is not right in life.

      In my view, living life as if you are going to die tomorrow can have the following effects:

      • It forces you to live for the benefit of others. (What use is screwing others for wealth? You're dead tomorrow. At the same time you have to have enough wealth to look after those who depend on you.)
      • It forces you to live for today. Don't put things of as you will be dead tomorrow. Don't get caught up in a career you hate or defer spending time with those you love.

      The biggest shortcoming in my position (apart from the fact I find it too difficult to live up to myself) is that one has to avoid a selfish preoccupation with tomorrow's death.

      I look forward to a rebuttal!

    5. Re:A Wake Up Call? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another effect: It causes you to be thankful when you don't die the next day! That puts quite a value on each day of your life.

    6. Re:A Wake Up Call? by phrasebook · · Score: 5, Funny

      Live your life as if you are going to be dead tomorrow.

      Okay that makes sense. Here is my plan for every day of the rest of my life:

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something ...

    7. Re:A Wake Up Call? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That's little limiting.

      What about:

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      7am: wake up, realise I'm not dead. Be thankful.
      Realise I've given my cds, computer, etc. away
      Realise they weren't that important anyway
      Go out and enjoy another day of my life (possibly visiting friends to read Slashdot on my old computer).

      7am: wake up, realise I'm not dead. Be thankful.
      Live another fulfillng day of my life.

      Repeat until dead.

    8. Re:A Wake Up Call? by Dr+Reducto · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a comedy bit I heard once:

      Someone told me to live every day like it was my last, so I borrowed $50000,got really drunk, punched a cop, etc. and when I woke up the next morning, I wondered how to live the day after your last day on earth.

    9. Re:A Wake Up Call? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
      8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
      afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      OT, but I just started thinking about the difference between someone who has a year, say, before dying versus one day. Then I started thinking about people who know the date and hour of their deaths. Some of those people are the ones on death row.

      Then I started thinking (because I'm a writer) about whether anyone on death row has a weblog. Does anyone know of such?

      ::runs out to do a google search::

    10. Re:A Wake Up Call? by ThousandStars · · Score: 1
      night: go look at the stars, or something

      Translation: "Two chicks at the same time."

    11. Re:A Wake Up Call? by Cyn · · Score: 1

      Oh crap!

      I've been thinking for years, and I'm still not published! I would like to formally apologize to both writers as well as the population at large. I'll be sure to blindly stumble forward from now on, and leave the thinking to those who need to be doing it the most.

      --
      cyn, free software and *nix operating systems enthusiast.
  43. last line by jeffehobbs · · Score: 2, Interesting


    the last line of his memo:

    PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express.

    Note he stops just short of asserting it was the Airport Express that cured his cancer...

    In all seriousness, any time anyone beats cancer it is Good News. Has there been any reports on how the cancer was caught so quickly?

    ~jeff

    1. Re:last line by Basehart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've been looking around for the kind of symptoms that these really nasty pancreatic cancers produce and it seems there are few that show themselves until it's basically kind of too late. So, I'm guessing he gets a full body scan of some kind every six months - not something your local health care provider will get too excited about.

      One pointer is that he leads such a healthy lifestyle, so no smoking/overweight triggers (apart from all the stress) which leads me to think it may be a genetic issue that his doctor was aware of.

    2. Re:last line by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Has there been any reports on how the cancer was caught so quickly?

      He uses Norton 2004.

      Now in reality:

      I actually think it was caught partly through luck, and partly because his healthplan will be the best of the best, and most of us wouldn't have any chance of this being spotted so early.

      --
      liqbase :: faster than paper
  44. What are you talking about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stem cell research is only remotely related to cancer biology you silly twit.

  45. Re:No offense ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's because there's no "WTF?" mod.

  46. Cancer Detection using SELDI mass spectrometry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Though not foolproof, you can sometimes detect specific cancer signatures via blood tests. There's new technolgies called "SELDI" where high troughput mass spectrometry is done : ciphergen press release here. There's a lot of kinks to work out to take this out of the research labs and into the clinics; but there is promise here. There's been some problems with people fucking up their research using this tool.

  47. Whaaa!! by krel · · Score: 1, Funny

    Holy shit! My heart nearly stopped when I read the headline! STEVE is the glue that holds the world together; if He were to (somehow?) die, everything man ever created, everything that has ever been important to the entirety of the human race would be instantly, violently destroyed!
    STEVE is much more than a feeble that He is. STEVE is literally everything, and thus everything is STEVE. If STEVE were to be undone, so would all of creation.
    Which ever doctor banished that satanic tumor deserves an annual day of celebration.

    --
    karma: ouch!
    1. Re:Whaaa!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding! The way the headline was worded, it made it sound like The Steve could actually get diseases or something, like a normal person.

      But no, my faith is not shaken, I know that The Steve is eternal, The Steve is never-ending, The Steve is all. Although his holy Black Turtleneck may fray, the man inside will never leave us. Amen!

    2. Re:Whaaa!! by peacefinder · · Score: 1

      I hadn't thought of it before, but he's clearly another example of the rule presented in The Tao of Steve.

      McGarrett. Austin. McQueen. Jobs.

      Good luck, Steve.

      --
      With reasonable men I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter. -- William Lloyd
  48. Market Share by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It figures that if Jobs is going to have pancreatic cancer, that he'd only get the rare type with 1% market share.

  49. Pancreatic? Yikes. by davidbrit2 · · Score: 1

    I remember hearing on a radio program (yes, I actually listen to AM) that pancreatic cancer is one of the deadlier types if gone unnoticed for a while. Lucky they caught it in time, I guess.

    1. Re:Pancreatic? Yikes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he does have pancreatic cancer, then it is highly unlikely that he'll live to see 2006. Pancreatic is one of the worst. It killed all of President Jimmy Carter's brothers and sisters. You don't live long with this kind of cancer. Jobs could well be dead by next springtime.

    2. Re:Pancreatic? Yikes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Jobs' letter he notes the type of pancreatic cancer you're referring to, and states that this is not it. Sure he'll likely be a little worse for wear, but I think we'll be stuck with Mr. Jobs for a while yet. Thankfully.

      Anyway, now that he's alright and we can joke about it, whats the bet Jobs is just using this as an excuse to hole up for a month with a top-of-the-line PC and play Doom 3?

  50. Hang in there, Steve by nordicfrost · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All competition put aside, the modern IT world wouldn't be the same without you. If you hadn't dragged Apple kicking and screaming into the new millennium, who would have given Microsoft a run for its money (until Linux on the desktop comes)?

    As a child of a twice cancer survivour, I wish all of your family well, I know they are praying for you (Even if they aren't religious).

    1. Re:Hang in there, Steve by Phleg · · Score: 1
      ...until Linux on the desktop comes...

      I hear that's coming this year.

      --
      No comment.
    2. Re:Hang in there, Steve by Macka · · Score: 1


      Where are my moderator points when I need them. Would love to have given you a 'funny' for that one.

  51. Keynote by dreamer8815 · · Score: 0

    Does this mean that Steve is going to miss the Apple expo keynote in Paris on Augest 31? But how cool would it be if he did the whole thing useing iChat AV.

    --
    "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein
  52. rumor sites by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Funny
    Reuters reports that doctors successfully removed a cancerous tumor from the pancreas of Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

    Thus dispelling rumors circulating for days (on MacOSRumors et al) that Steve was:

    • Getting his penis enlarged
    • undergoing liposuction
    • having a gender-change operation (both sexes, for compatibility)
    • having breast implants installed

    ....and of course, various other unsubstantiated rumors not worth mentioning (everyone figured out the bionic legs were bogus right away).

    1. Re:rumor sites by rjw57 · · Score: 1

      At least noone suggested he was having iSurgery.

      (sorry, I'm fiddling with QoS and my brain is melting....)

      --
      Rich
  53. Jobs used the wrong hospital by green+pizza · · Score: 4, Funny

    Jobs should have had these folks work on his pancreas, he would have saved a bundle!

    http://www.ipodbattery.com/

  54. get well soon!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I read "Steve Jobs" and "Cancer" in the same sentence, I saw my life flash before my eyes... yow... without that man, the computer industry ceases to exist.

    Yeah that seems a little selfish, but come on, none of us know him personally, but we know what he's done.

    So get well soon Steve, and don't leave us just yet!

  55. And did you see his p.s.? by zo219 · · Score: 1


    "PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express."

    What a guy.

    Get well soon - We still need the iTablet/PDA!

    1. Re:And did you see his p.s.? by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      don't think the tablet/pda's going to happen. Jobs killed the crazy awesome Newton, essentially saying that that wasn't the direction that Apple was going to take. And Jobs has too much pride to go back and try to retake a market. Especially a developed market like PDAs

      --

      Marxism is the opiate of dumbasses

  56. Jobs really died... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and they replaced him with a robot.

  57. hmm... by jx100 · · Score: 1

    PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express.

    Are you allowed to use Wi-Fi in a hospital? Wouldn't it mess up some of the other electronics?

    1. Re:hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Working for the computing department at a medical school, our hospital it's fully wifi. They wouldn't have done it if it could have caused problems. (Although the network there is down 90% of the time, so there are really few wifi transmissions)

    2. Re:hmm... by Basehart · · Score: 1

      World famous neurologist looks at the monitor displaying feedback from primary and secondary brain sensors before making the most critical incision during a five hour brain operation a few doors down the hall from Steve Jobs' room and sees "PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express."

    3. Re:hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i doubt it. wireless router is no worse than a microwave. unless jobs was emailing from the surgery unit, i don't see a problem.

    4. Re:hmm... by John+Miles · · Score: 1

      Frequency-wise, WiFi on the 2.4 GHz band is nowhere near anything important that would be used in a hospital. (This, despite the fact that the 2.4 GHz band is designated "ISM" by the FCC -- industrial, scientific, and medical.)

      There's an amazing amount of RF crap floating around on 2.4 GHz, from telephones to microwave ovens. No sane engineer would try to use that part of the spectrum for anything related to health or safety.

      In terms of power levels, a WiFi link emits much less RF power than a cellphone; around 100 times less, in fact. If there is a microwave oven anywhere in the hospital building, it's leaking much more 2.4 GHz radiation than Steve's Airport card is putting out.

      --
      Dahlmann tightly grips the knife, which he may have no idea how to use, and steps out into the plain.
  58. Reality Distortion Field fooled the by MMHere · · Score: 1

    In close proximity to the Jobs Reality Distortion Field, the cancerous mass forgot what it had originally intended to do, and did what Steve required instead:

    Allowed itself to become one of the rarer types (less threatening if found early), then went ahead and got itself found early. ("You don't need to harm me... Move along..." -- Jedi Mind Trick.)

    Seriously, as others have said, get well soon Steve!

  59. distorted vision of CEOs etc by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Simple as this ... no Steve Jobs ... no Apple computers ... no iMac, iCal, iPod, iBook

    Hate to break it to you, but here's sorta how it works.

    Jobs says "let's make an MP3 player better than anything else out there", or someone suggests it, and Jobs says "OK, let's look into it".

    One person sees what "anything else" has. Another sees what people might be willing to pay. Another runs some numbers on what it might cost to build. Another works on a little concept art based on what the engineers think is reasonable in terms of size etc.

    Then everyone comes back and presents their stuff- not necessarily to Steve, maybe someone under him, who then brings it to him. Jobs says "hey, looks like we can do this and make money off it. Let's whip up some prototypes", etc.

    1. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hate to break it to you, but here's sorta how it works.

      Yea! That's why everyones doing it!

    2. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Hate to break it to you, but Steve, along with many other technology CEOs are often heavily involved with certain projects and usually decide which direction the company will go in terms of research and focus. The iMac was Steve's baby and from what I understand, he was also heavily involved in the development of the iPod. This includes making design decisions and influencing how the engineers accomplish certain tasks. Ever wonder where Keynote came from? That's right, Steve wanted a presentation program he could use for his keynotes and managed to get some developers within Apple to write one according to his specifications. Finally, who killed off the greatest PDA to have ever existed? Steve. That's why news of a tech company's CEO will typically make slashdot.

    3. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you kidding?? The Steve's hand can be seen on all their products. He's the one that yells at people to remove buttons from UIs, to make the white of the iPod and the iMac "glow" a certain way, he even had final say in choosing the *lighting* in the Apple stores.

      He's the reason all the Apple ads are so "white". He had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the colorful iPod ads, only after somebody convinced him that the color represented the Windows world.

      Sure, he surrounds himself with people who share the same vision (like that designer guy) but I would not be surprised that much of what apple puts out is basically "designed by proxy" from Steve Jobs yelling at people.

      "NO MAKE IT SMALLER"

      "MAKE IT EASIER TO USE"

      "PEOPLE ARE STUPID, REMOVE THOSE BUTTONS"

      "I DIDN'T SHIT MY PANTS! YOU'RE FIRED!"

      That's one reason I admire the guy so much.. he's living proof that being a perfectionist and obsessed with detail is not mutually exclusive with success (and yes, Apple is a highly succesful company, even if they have a small share of the market, by almost any measure).

    4. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by Sasha+Slutsker · · Score: 0

      Well, Steve obviously did something correctly since, after he returned to Apple, the company became much better and started releasing all those great products. (Such as Mac OS X, the iPod, the new Power Books and iBooks, the iMac, etc.)

    5. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by kfg · · Score: 1, Interesting

      . . .basically "designed by proxy" from Steve Jobs yelling at people.

      You could pretty much substitute William Lear or Enzo Ferrari for Steve's name in that sentence. It's not an umcommon way of going about things for the smaller, elite company founded by a charismatic leader.

      KFG

    6. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by MouseR · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, here's my moderation points going away for this reply.

      If you'd be a little more informed, you'd know from talking with Apple engineers (lite I do at the Apple World Wide Developer Conference) that Jobs actually has a say in everything.

      He actually overseas both software and hardware development to the point of butting in on designs/features/implementation and repeatedly looks over your shoulder to make sure it's as he wants it to be.

      At first, I'm told, this is nerve-wrecking and eventually, Apple engineerings rely on this and some actually appreciate it when comes the time where Jobs has nothing much to say about your product. Engineers told me, "it's at that point we usually know we have a winner".

      (All jokes aside, I've not heard this specific comment about the Mac Cube :-)

    7. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by Basehart · · Score: 1

      "Well, here's my moderation points going away for this reply."

      This is actually a good thing, because now you have five whole mod points ready for the next story about Steve Ballmer's emergency Tummy Tuck operation.

    8. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by rakaz · · Score: 1
      Finally, who killed off the greatest PDA to have ever existed? Steve. That's why news of a tech company's CEO will typically make slashdot.
      I think you meant 'largest PDA to have ever existed'.

      Just joking. Although I hated dragging a brick with me around, I loved the Newton.

    9. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Hate to break it to you, but here's sorta how it works"

      Err... dude, we're talking about a guy who ordered the walls of the factory building the (then) new NeXT hardware repainted *three times*, because the colour wasn't quite right.

      Steve Jobs has no hand in his products? Pffft!

  60. Does Jobs' have a successor? by micron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, I am an Apple fan. Go Steve Go!

    As a shareholder, and considering that Apple is a public company, does Jobs have a successor?

    Case and point: We all saw what happened last time Steve left. He came back and essentially saved the company from destruction. He was quoted as saying something along the lines of "I am not going to let someone wreck this company again".

    From what I see, Apple = Steve. Apple's success lies in Steve's hands, or more to the point, as goes Jobs, goes Apple.

    Does anyone have insight on this? What happens if something happens and Steve is not at the helm any more? Does Apple die with him?

    1. Re:Does Jobs' have a successor? by jmichaelg · · Score: 2, Insightful
      From what I see, Apple = Steve. Apple's success lies in Steve's hands, or more to the point, as goes Jobs, goes Apple.

      It sure looks that way. The upside to having Jobs pay attention to so many details in a new product launch is you know what you're getting when you buy an Apple product. The downside is there's no one who knows what to do when he's gone because he's micro-managed everything.

      It's very hard to start a company that lasts more than 5 years. It's even harder to start a company that survives its founder's leaving.

    2. Re:Does Jobs' have a successor? by MacDaffy · · Score: 1

      First, an editor's nitpick: It's case in point. ;-)

      Steve's return to Apple brought some much-needed focus and discipline to the company. It doesn't leak like a sieve any more, its employees and managers tend to stay on-task since there's a clear direction and the people who work there--from top to bottom--are the best.

      Besides, he's going to be back at work soon--they don't dare f*** up!

      Go, Steve, go!

    3. Re:Does Jobs' have a successor? by geek · · Score: 1

      "does Jobs have a successor?"

      If not I'll gladly take on that responsibility.

    4. Re:Does Jobs' have a successor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If not I'll gladly take on that responsibility.

      It would be a hard job. Steve Jobs is not one of those CEOs that people resent for pulling down zillions of dollars for doing basically nothing all day. Running Apple would be like herding cats.

      It would be a lot easier to run Dell, or even HP. You'd be under less pressure to push the envelope.

    5. Re:Does Jobs' have a successor? by yohan1701 · · Score: 1
      Steve Jobs is not one of those CEOs that people resent for pulling down zillions of dollars

      Actually Steve only gets paid a $1 salary. There is the crap load of stock though.

  61. Medical Weed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Im an IT guy, I got diagnosed with Testicular cancer two months ago, two surgeries, and I start my first round of chemotherapy tomorrow. So the doctor prescribes "Emend" which I did some research into. Apparently it's a synthetic THC medicine which costs $250 bucks(I have insurance, I paid $50) and it only comes with three pills.
    DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH HIGH QUALITY WEED I CAN(and will) BUY FOR $50??? Damn, I guess I'm a terrorist now. I love America.

    1. Re:Medical Weed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just had one ball be removed, standard operating procedure. I've read that undescended testicles greatly increase your chances for testicular cancer, so I suggest you get your doctor to do a cat scan on your undescended balls.

      Remember kids, rub your balls, for please or to check for cancer.
      - From Tom Green

    2. Re:Medical Weed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      HAHA YOU REPLIED TO MY MESSAGE MAKING FUN OF YOUR CANCER BALLS. GOODBYE CANCER BALL, NOW ONE-BALLIN IT... KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL

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  62. SJDF can't prevent cancer by binaryspiral · · Score: 1

    Steve Job's Distortion Field must be losing its power... he would have spun this cancer into "an unscheduled upgrade."

    Get well Steve, I'm still saving my coin for a powerbook.

  63. Re:Seriously, folks by norculf · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Unfortunately Steve Jobs is the only person who is sufficiently out of his mind to run Apple. When he dies, Apple dies.

  64. LSD? by Rgb465 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So I guess ODing on LSD really does cause cancer... ;)

  65. Who knew.. by lpontiac · · Score: 2, Informative

    .. that the reality distortion field was ionising?

  66. Work at Hopkins ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using SELDI ProteinChip technology and bioinformatics tools, Dr. Goggins and colleagues analyzed serum samples from 60 patients with pancreatic cancer, 60 age- and sex-matched patients with non-malignant pancreatic diseases and 60 age- and sex-matched healthy patients in the controls group. Analysis of the data revealed two protein biomarkers that could discriminate pancreatic cancer patients from healthy controls with specificity (true negatives) of 97% and sensitivity (true positives) of 78%. The addition of CA19-9 to the two-marker panel further improved its overall performance. Because the study analyzed patients with surgically resectable cancer, it is possible that this marker panel will be diagnostically useful even for patients with small cancers. Ciphergen's Diagnostics Division and the Johns Hopkins research team are currently recruiting additional patients in order to perform follow-on validation studies.

    Pancreatic cancer is the fifth leading cause of cancer death and has the poorest survival rate for any solid cancer. The American Cancer Society projects that, in 2004, about 31,860 people in the U.S. will be found to have pancreatic cancer and about 31,270 will die of the disease. The disease is often very advanced by the time symptoms occur and diagnosis is established, as a result of which the five year survival rate of pancreatic cancer patients is less than 5%. If detected early and treated by surgery, 5-year survival rates improve to approximately 15-40%. Thus, there is an unmet clinical need for accurate non-invasive tests for the early detection of pancreatic cancer. A currently available serum test, CA19-9, can be used for monitoring patients already diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, but there is no serum test today for the initial diagnosis of pancreatic cancer

  67. Re:Seriously, folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who know, maybe Steve just wanted some time to play Doom 3 too and made up an elaborate story about getting cancer so he could get some time away from Apple and Pixar to do a little fragging! ;-)

  68. I never knew by kalidasa · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    That constant exposure to a Reality Distortion Field was carcinogenous.

  69. Medical Information by cytoman · · Score: 5, Informative
    I got this from http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/000393.htm Pancreatic islet cell tumor

    Overview

    Definition:
    A pancreatic islet cell tumor is an uncommon tumor of the pancreas that arises from a distinct type of cell in the pancreas, the islet cell. Normally, islet cells produce insulin and other hormones, and islet cell tumors can also produce hormones.

    Alternative Names:
    Islet cell tumors; Islet of Langerhans tumor; Neuroendocrine tumors

    Causes, incidence, and risk factors:

    In the normal pancreas, cells called islet cells produce hormones that regulate a variety of bodily functions, such as blood sugar level and the production of stomach acid.

    Tumors that arise from islet cells of the pancreas can also produce a variety of hormones, though some do not. Although islet cells produce many different hormones, most tumors secrete only one specific hormone that leads to specific symptoms. Pancreatic islet cell tumors can be benign or malignant (cancerous).

    Islet cell tumors include insulinomas, glucagonomas, and gastrinomas (Zollinger-Ellison syndrome). A family history of multiple endocrine neoplasia, type I (MEN I) is a risk factor for the development of islet cell tumors.

    Symptoms:
    * Sweating
    * Tremor
    * Rapid heart rate
    * Anxiety
    * Hunger
    * Dizziness
    * Headache
    * Clouding of vision
    * Confusion
    * Behavioral changes
    * Convulsions
    * Loss of consciousness
    * Skin rash that migrates on the face, abdomen, perineum, buttocks, or lower extremities
    o May be crusty and scaly
    o May have raised lesions filled with clear fluid or pus
    * Inflamed mouth and tongue
    * Weight loss
    * Weight gain (unintentional)
    * Peptic ulcer pain
    * Vomiting blood
    * Diarrhea
    * Abdominal pain

    Note: The symptoms depend upon the type of tumor and the hormone produced.

    Signs and tests:
    The type of tests performed may vary depending upon the symptoms associated with the condition. Some of the following abnormalities may be detected on testing:

    * elevated serum glucagon level
    * an abdominal CT scan may reveal a pancreatic tumor (sometimes the tumor may be too small to see with a CT scan)
    * elevated fasting glucose level
    * abnormal glucose tolerance test
    * catheterization of the pancreas to show high hormone level in the veins (this involves putting a wire into a blood vessel and taking blood out for measurements)
    * MRI of abdomen to show pancreatic tumor (MRI can sometimes see smaller tumors than those seen with a CT scan)
    * elevated serum insulin level
    * elevated serum insulin C-peptide
    * low fasting glucose level
    * increased gastrin level
    * positive secretin stimulation test for pancreas
    * positive calcium infusion test

    Treatment:
    Treatment will depend upon the type of tumor discovered and whether the tumor is benign or malignant. Malignant tumors spread to other organs, grow aggressively, and may not be treatable. In general, tumors are removed surgically, if possible.

    If malignant cancerous cells spread (metastasize) to the liver, a portion of the liver may also be removed, if possible. If the cancer is widespread, various forms of chemotherapy may be used to shrink the tumors.

    If the abnormal production of hormones is causing problems, medications may be given to counteract their effects. For example, the overproduction of gastrin in the case of gastrinomas results in oversecretion of acid in the stomach, and medications that block acid secretion can be taken to reduce symptoms.

    Expectations (prognosis):
    Patients may be cured if tumors are surgically removed before they have spread to other organs. If tumors are malignant, chemotherapy may be used, but is usually unsuccessful at cur

    1. Re:Medical Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      You've given the link, but then you had to plaster in the whole goddamned text?

      Ho-hum. At least you formatted it - most wh0res wouldn't have bothered...

    2. Re:Medical Information by NothingToSeeHere · · Score: 1

      Symptoms:
      [...]
      * Clouding of vision

      Eeek! Good thing Steve got it removed. I don't want to imagine in what direction Apple would head without his clear vision of future computers! No, wait...

    3. Re:Medical Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Symptoms:
      * Sweating
      * Tremor
      * Rapid heart rate
      * Anxiety
      * Hunger
      * Dizziness
      * Headache
      * Clouding of vision
      * Confusion
      * Behavioral changes
      * Weight gain
      Somebody call Steve Ballmer!!!
  70. Symptoms, diagnosis, treatment of such tumors by a-aiyar · · Score: 5, Informative
    There has been a lot of speculation about how Steve Jobs' cancer was diagnosed, and whether he has annuals CT scans or MRIs.

    I don't know if he does, but the neuroendocrine tumor in his islet cells would have affected insulin production which in turn would have caused symptoms such as:

    • intense sweating, anxiety, hunger
    • tremor, rapid heart rate
    • dizziness, obscured vision
    • rapid fluctuations in weight
    • diarrhea, abdominal pain, possible vomiting of blood

    Steve's doctors would have tested for a number of things including:

    • elevated serum glucagon
    • elevated fasting glucose levels, and high glucose tolerance
    • elevated levels of serum insulin
    • possibly increased levels of gastrin (which would cause the increased hunger)

    They would have have then ordered abdominal MRI scans, because these tumors (in the Islet of Langerhans) would likely be too small to see by CT scans). If the MRIs were positive, surgery would be next.

    If the tumor had metastasized, a portion of the liver would have also been removed, and chemotherapy would have been used. As that appears not to be the case, Steve's tumor is likely a pre-malignant lesion.

    1. Re:Symptoms, diagnosis, treatment of such tumors by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 1

      They would have have then ordered abdominal MRI scans, because these tumors (in the Islet of Langerhans) would likely be too small to see by CT scans).

      Not necessarily. My girlfriend, who is a doctor but not a specialist in either the abdomen or cancer, told me about a patient with an islet tumor the size of a baseball. She (the patient was female) noticed it when she felt a hard mass just under her rib-cage.

      They removed it, snip snip, and she was provisionally deemed to be cancer-free. Apparently islet tumors are often totally self-contained and non-metastatic.

      --

      I write in my journal
    2. Re:Symptoms, diagnosis, treatment of such tumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Neuroendocrine tumors are often too small to be seen on a MRI. Often they are found by injecting the patient with radioisotope-tagged antibodies that bind to the specific hormone that the tumor is producing and then the tumor shows up on a PET scan.

  71. Somewhere... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somewhere in WA Bill Gates has hidden a VERY expensive voodoo doll.

  72. Just some dust in the wind.... by His+Nastiness · · Score: 1

    but my mother died last December 1 from pancreatic cancer. Pancreatic cancer is pretty much a death sentence except for this type that Jobs got. It's a fucking horrible disease (though I'll readily admit that there are far worse ways to go) and a shitty way to die. I hope Steve all the best and if nothing else hope that maybe this will cause him to direct some of his enthusiasm and vision towards raising funds for research. He is one of the very few lucky ones.

  73. haha what? by vena · · Score: 4, Funny

    PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express.

    dude's in the hospital and still manages a plug. bravo, mate.

    1. Re:haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Airport Express has been found to cause cancer if kept too close.

    2. Re:haha what? by mewphobia · · Score: 1
      still manages a plug.

      Well he only needs one for his airport express

    3. Re:haha what? by T-Kir · · Score: 1

      Naa, he was advised by doctors to use wireless networking on his notebook...then they don't have to do any radiotherapy treatments, cos the laptop will do it for him

      *ducks.

      In all seriousness though, he is very lucky to have caught it early. My uncle died from lymphatic cancer last year (caught too late), pretty nasty all round and he certainly suffered.. plus a friend was diagnosed with breast cancer last week. Not fun at all.

      --
      Are you local? There's nothing for you here!
    4. Re:haha what? by ChicagoBiker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It just goes to show us, he's as nuts and excited about technology as the rest of us are. (I'm sure at least half of /. if they were in the same position would mention how they got an e-mail like that out).

    5. Re:haha what? by DarkSarin · · Score: 1

      lymphatic lymphoma is a nasty form of cancer, no matter when its caught. For most patients, it progresses fairly quickly, and it carries a rather poor prognosis.

      I should know--I watched my dad battle with it for three years before he died. That was nine years ago, and while cancer treatment has made leaps and bounds, it is still a tricky process at best.

      I don't wish cancer on anyone.

      As for Jobs, I hope he recovers quickly and completely. I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy.

      --
      "We don't know what we are doing, but we are doing it very carefully,..." Wherry, R.J. Personnel Psychology (1995)
    6. Re:haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They don't allow cell phone usage in hospitals because they cause interference with equipment. Wonder how they feel about wireless networking??

    7. Re:haha what? by curious.corn · · Score: 1

      Probably because it runs in a junkband everybody avoids and protect against. Oh, what the hell... in bocca al lupo Steve!

      --
      Mi domando chi à il mandante di tutte le cazzate che faccio - Altan
  74. An Apple a day.... by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...keeps the doctor away. Opps.. maybe he stood to close to the Windows®

    --
    Life is not for the lazy.
  75. Disgusting by MacOSXHead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

    First of all, Steve is a father to several children and is sick with a serious illness. This alone should cause you to some show sort of decency in your remarks.

    I have a nephew who is fighting Leukemia. When you visit someone you know or who is a member of your family with cancer, it is hardly funny.

    The Slashdot community may not respect Steve Jobs for what he did for modern computing. That is their ignorance. I just cannot understand the callousness of some people who poke fun other's tragedies.

    I wish S.J. a speedy recovery, foremost for his family. I do not know him, but I know the result of his imagination. We should all strive to have that impact on the world.

    1. Re:Disgusting by adzoox · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree more - eventhough I'm a Mac person, I disagree with Jobs political affiliations and religious beliefs, but that has never superceded his amzing abilities as an idea man and leader and a very dedicated CEO of two VERY important media & technology companies.

      He IS A FATHER and a relative and a friend to many. Shame on those that would mock his situation (eventhough they will do the same when he dies)

      My front page to my websites is dedicated to him this week.

      ADZOOX.COM

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    2. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You deal with disease how you want, I'll deal with it how I want. If you feel like laughing at me, have fun! Whatever makes YOU feel better.

    3. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      First of all, Steve is a father to several children and is sick with a serious illness

      Well, Steve doesn't care enough to pay CHILD SUPPORT for his daughter Lisa! How much do you think she cares about him?

    4. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. Get a goddamn life, you people. You may not have spent much time in a hospital bed, but like it or not, eventually, you will.

      You'd better pray your situation is better that Steve's. Likely it WON'T BE.

      Who'll be laughing then?

    5. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would suggest doing a bit more research - hey may have been hesitant / unwilling when he first learned of Lisa, but eventually came to his senses.

    6. Re:Disgusting by aluminumcube · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having been an EMT and having had a couple of family members suffer through various forms of cancer, let me give you a little piece of advice- humor is the glue that keeps people alive.

      I have yet to see a single comment that wished Steve harm or anything less then a full recovery. If someone had said something along those lines, it would be crossing the line into "Asshole Land," but surfing at +2 carma, I have seen nothing like that.

      Otherwise, lighten up. Cancer jokes are funny and the people that laugh at them the hardest are usually people who have/had it.

    7. Re:Disgusting by tekunokurato · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a 22 year old cancer survivor and I don't need to say anything more than this: Laughter is the ONLY fucking way to get through this stuff.

    8. Re:Disgusting by agildehaus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have seen no posts which do not respectfully make light of the situation. Jobs is doing well from what we all can gather, and so we're punching him in the arm a bit to congratulate him.

      Much love for science and its ability to fix some of the ailments we all face.

    9. Re:Disgusting by Montreal · · Score: 1

      Hmm, ask Gerv about that.

    10. Re:Disgusting by RetiredMidn · · Score: 1
      Here's one more cancer survivor who believes that humor can be a healthy coping strategy.

      For the record, my kids were 14 and 12 when I had surgery and started chemo. My son (the 12-year-old) and I had a running joke about some of my methods for dealing with chemo (it's a too long story), and I value those laughs more than anything in the world.

      I appreciate that humor is not called for in the case of a child with cancer -- and I extend my best wishes to your nephew -- but I'm fairly confident that Steve and his family would not be offended by the humor here, especially considering the source. ;-)

    11. Re:Disgusting by phrasebook · · Score: 1

      From his page:

      I decided that the only thing to do was not to worry[3], and leave it in the hands of God.

      I think God had prepared me for this moment quite well;

      There was definitely a difference between the way my Christian and non-Christian friends took the news. In general, the Christians took it very well - not getting upset, and promising to pray for me.

      I had so many visitors, it was a real blessing

      we talked for a while and he read Psalm 23. As I listened, I understood again just how much God cared about me

      I'm really, really glad he made it through, he sounds like a great guy, but how on earth do people convince themselves, how do they literally trick themselves into believing this kind of stuff? It just makes me feel uneasy... weird man, weird. Well, I guess it worked for him and that's what counts.

    12. Re:Disgusting by mjj12 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

      I'm not. In this comment section I have seen lots of people express that it is good news that Steve Jobs is likely to make a quick recovery, and lots of people wish him the best. (I will add to that. Get well soon Steve). And there is discussion of the actual illness, as well as lots of jokes comparing his cancer and the medical procedures to practices and products of Apple and the computer industry. Few if any of the jokes strike me as mean-spirited though. Life can be hard. One way you survive it is by being jocular about it, even at difficult times.

    13. Re:Disgusting by Montreal · · Score: 1

      He's only deluded if there is no God - and nobody's proved that one way or another, right? :)

    14. Re:Disgusting by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Let me guess, you to be consistent, you would be completely offended over the movie and the TV show called M*A*S*H?

    15. Re:Disgusting by e40 · · Score: 1

      Uh, not exactly. This is not a binary thing. If there is a God, who is to say it's the one written about in the Christian bible? Who's to say that the bible is accurate? The chances of there being a God as described by that book are very, very slim. Yes, this is an opinion, but from what we do know (many authors, written long after Jesus' death, and some of the silly ass content) I'm not just pulling this outta my ass.

    16. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I'm seriously ill too, and you just ruined the best laugh I had in weeks and made me feel all bad about myself. Great. Thanks!

    17. Re:Disgusting by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

      In general, the remarks I have seen have been respectful of Steve's condition. Yes, some have shown a sense of humour, and some have taken a few shots at Apple's warranty plans. It should be noted that Steve has an excellent prognosis. Non-metastatic cancer, well localized and readily excised. People would be more circumspect if the outcome were more in doubt.

      Somber, humourless expressions of support are all well and good for politicians, and they're fine from close friends and family--in moderation.

      From anybody else, come on. For people who are ill, the last thing they need are folks moping morosely around their hospital bed acting like they're already dead. Steve expects to be all right, and he's apparently quite well enough to be plugging the Powerbook and AirPort from his bed. Yes, he has cancer. Yes, he's having surgery. It's more serious than a tonsillectomy, but easier than a coronary artery bypass graft. For that matter, it will probably be done laparascopically, so it's less traumatic than, say, a C-section.

      The problem is that word 'cancer'. It seems to have the same magical effect as 'terrorism'. The words are the ultimate trump cards in medicine and politics, respectively. Hear either one, and you're supposed to sit in stony, respectful, mournful silence.

      Damn it, get real! These people are our friends and family. Should we stop laughing with them just because they're ill? Treat them differently? Shy away from smiling around them? Suck the fun out of their lives because joy, and humour, and laughter are only for the healthy?

      In case some dumbass wants to spout off on my 'right' to have an opinion on this--yes, I have some experience with cancer. My best friend's mother passed away from a very aggressive breast cancer. My great uncle is pushing eighty after surviving a bout with lung cancer. I do cancer research for a living, in a large research and teaching hospital. Oh, and there seems to be a tendency towards Alzheimer's in my family, which is a really scary way to go.

      I feel for the parent poster's nephew, and everyone who is facing cancer. It is scary, and it isn't funny. What I see here on Slashdot, though, it not people laughing at Jobs' cancer. I see people laughing with Jobs, because he's going to beat cancer. I see people laughing at Jobs for the same reasons they always have, and it's a taste of normality. I see people laughing at Apple, because it's friendly ribbing that Jobs is used to. He's one of the geek family; he took the time to tell us from his hospital bed what kind of hardware he was emailing from. The parent poster still plays games and jokes with his nephew, doesn't he?

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    18. Re:Disgusting by sean23007 · · Score: 1

      Otherwise, lighten up. Cancer jokes are funny

      Thus ensuring that you will never be elected president. That's a sound byte that wouldn't go over well. *grin*

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    19. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, fine, laughter and handing off your mind to fantasy forces.

    20. Re:Disgusting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am 21 years old and have melanoma. Personally, I feel that those of us that have cancer appreciate these jokes the most.

    21. Re:Disgusting by gilgongo · · Score: 1

      > I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

      "Aghast" are we? At which remarks in partcular? My aunt died two years ago of pancreatic cancer at the age of 45, and it hit our family hard. I'm not aghast at the /. comments - I find some rather funny actually.

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    22. Re:Disgusting by achurch · · Score: 1

      I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

      Damn, I wish I had saved some mod points so I could mark this Overrated.

      This is going to end up mostly Redundant anyway, but come on . . . are we all supposed to end up moping around like it's the end of the world? Like TFA says, he's over the cancer, and expected to fully recover. Yes, it was a close call, and yes, things could have turned out much worse, in which case I expect even Slashdot would have been in a more somber mood. But things didn't turn out worse, and what I see is Slashdot expressing its relief through humor--and there's nothing wrong with that.

      And think about it--if it was you lying in a hospital bed, would you really want the rest of the world to stop enjoying life for your sake? Would that really make you, or your family, relatives and friends, feel better? I expect that if I ever found myself in a similar condition, I'd feel horrible if other people got depressed over it, and I'd probably do my best to inject some humor myself.

      I wish S.J. a speedy recovery

      As do we all.

  76. I know we all like to joke... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1
    But when you think about the fact that it's quite likely that a good 30-40% of us will end up dying from cancer eventually, it's not all that funny. The way I see it, by the time many of us youngins (and there are lots of 20-somethings around here on Slashdot) get old, there will be lots of ways modern medicine can keep us alive longer. There are lots of good ways to treat heart and cardiovascular disease, and I think those diseases tend to be fundamentally simpler than cancer in their causes and solutions.


    Since cancer isn't really one disease but rather a symptom of aging cells suffering from genetic screwups that turn off normal cellular signalling and protective mechanisms, it's a lot less likely to be meaningfully "cured" by the time we get old. And as people are surviving longer and longer, more people will get to the point where they have some cancerous growth somewhere. Anyway, having seen it first hand, getting very ill from cancer is about the worst thing I can imagine. And there are lots of drugs, all of which seem to work somewhere between decently and not too well, depending on the type and malignancy of the cancer you are dealing with.


    Anyway, we'll all end up dead some way some day. Personally, I can think of a lot of ways I'd rather go than cancer. Like a massive heart attack while having sex with a 20 year old.

    1. Re:I know we all like to joke... by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      But when you think about the fact that it's quite likely that a good 30-40% of us will end up dying from cancer eventually, it's not all that funny.

      Yeah, but people make jokes about this "death" thing all the time, and it's the cause of nigh-on 100% of mortality.

      Anyway, you won't die of cancer. They'll cure cancer with nanomachines and biotechnology. What you will die of is when the nanomachines and/or biotech screws up and turns you, and the rest of the world into grey goo.
      Yay! Go medical technology!

      Personally, I can think of a lot of ways I'd rather go than cancer. Like a massive heart attack while having sex with a 20 year old.

      Hmm... this being Slashdot, I reckon there are a number out there who would willingly submit to the fatal heart attack if it meant they got to have sex with a 20 year old at least once.

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  77. Jobs' Dirty Secret by OrthodonticJake · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jobs' Unreplaceable Pancreas Lasts Only 588 Months!!

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  78. Form over Function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who would like to wager that Steve Jobs expressed concerns about the aesthetics of his pancreas post-surgery?

    "But Mr. Jobs, if we bevel your pancreas, it might no longer function at the same capacity."
    "Just do it."

  79. PET scan by quetzalc0atl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would not be surprised if his tumor was detected using a somewhat-newly developed technology known as a PET (positron emission tomography) scan.

    The one thing that all cancerous cells have in common is a heavily anaerobic metabolism that works very quickly in order to support the continual state of mitosis that cancerous cells are in. An amount of radio-tagged sugars are introduced into the body and an image can then be created where areas that metabolize the most show up the darkest. Some areas are obviously normal tissues that simply use more sugar (muscle tissue, liver, etc.) but an area that stands out could be a candidate for further testing.

  80. Cure for 2/3 of all cancers.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reolysin, the product of

    http://www.ocolyticsbiotech.com

    Full Disclosure: I'm a shareholder, but that's because I believe in their products effectiveness. Not the other way around.

  81. Airport in Hospital by totoanihilation · · Score: 1

    What troubles me is that he's using RF-generating equipment in a hostpital... Any one know if 802.11 interferes with sensitive medical equipment as much as cell phones do? Probably not, but just curious...

  82. Words Steve didn't want to hear as he went under. by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn. It blue screened AGAIN?

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  83. google line from letter by mccoma · · Score: 1
    The far more common form of pancreatic cancer is called adenocarcinoma, which is currently not curable and usually carries a life expectancy of around one year after diagnosis. I mention this because when one hears "pancreatic cancer" (or Googles it), one immediately encounters this far more common and deadly form, which, thank god, is not what I had.

    This is starting to be one of those lessons in being specific with an explanation because the most common result on a search engine is not what you want people to think (also more examples of Google as a verb).

    Get well Steve and long, happy life

  84. A serious question. by DAldredge · · Score: 1

    Like what?

    I am serious, what has HE done? Not Woz, not others, what has he done? It appears to me that he has done a lot more for Animation than he has done for computers.

    1. Re:A serious question. by Moofie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Created the notion that computers should be well designed, not just raw utilitarian functionalism?

      You might disagree, and you're entitled to. Me, I think Jobs has immeasurably improved my experience of using computers.

      What has he done? Re-energized a bunch of creative engineers and designers. Led them to take on the world and design insanely great products.

      Is he a coder? Or an engineer? Or a designer? No. He's a visionary. We need all those sorts of people to advance the state of any art.

      You are, of course, free to hate his vision. I do not. : )

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    2. Re:A serious question. by martinX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Reality distortion field. He makes people believe anything can happen.

      And then it does.

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    3. Re:A serious question. by dnahelix · · Score: 1

      Like what?

      Make computers that don't suck.

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    4. Re:A serious question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something can be both well designed and utilitarian, you know. Intuitive is probably the word you should be using.

    5. Re:A serious question. by Cujo · · Score: 1

      He's also a hardass, which you need to survive in a very tough market. That, and an expert salesman to the Apple faithful and developers.

      His biggest problem has been converting the great unwashed of Windows users, and in fact, he's shyed away from being part of Apple advertising to the general public - and probably on good advice.

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    6. Re:A serious question. by MrCam · · Score: 1

      First to actually do something about people having home computers. Before his marketing and pushing only companies with lots of money and some geeks that made the slashdot crowd look like preschoolers. He didn't invent the personal computer....he just made us think that we needed one and made IBM thing we needed one when he did so well. Without his vision computer would be much different now.

    7. Re:A serious question. by macthulhu · · Score: 1
      True. We can debate who's more important to the process, but without a "visionary" to get out in front of people and get them excited about computers, we'd be left with engineers, coders, and the like to do that marketing. As a graphic artist, I am right there alongside the code monkeys in the "not great with customers" group. We need people who don't know any better to ask stupid questions so that we have a problem to solve, which is why we're addicted to what we do. Though it pains me to say it, Marketing people are actually useful. When they don't understand the true dimensions of the box, they can easily (and unintentionally) present you with a problem that gets you outside said box.

      Steve Jobs has been excellent in that capacity. I wouldn't say he doesn't understand the gear, but Woz clearly knew more about the engineering side of it. Let's face it though, Woz would not have been able to get people as excited about home computers as Jobs. Love him or hate him, his contribution to geek culture can't be ignored.

      That said, this story has generated the funniest comments I've seen on /. in ages.

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    8. Re:A serious question. by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Well-designed is a superset of utilitarian. Utilitarian is functional and ugly. Well-designed is functional and beautiful.

      Intuitive doesn't cover enough ground.

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    9. Re:A serious question. by bXTr · · Score: 1

      As opposed to Bill's Absolute Terror Field. Sorry, couldn't resist the Evangelion reference.

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  85. Try using... by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 1

    Try using the long power cable that came with your power supply. You will find that it plugs very nicely into power outlets, and does not obscure the plug below it.

  86. Marijuana for Jobs by CzarMike · · Score: 0

    Someone should suggest the health benefits of the cannabis for his struggle/recovery. It is a widely accepted medical fact that cannabis is very beneficial to all cancer sufferers for relief of pain, an increased ability to stay on their drugs, as a hunger stimulant & of course as a very powerful anti-depressant. In Califonia, Canada and across the world it is already well known & used for this purpose. United States Marijuana Party http://www.usmjparty.com

    1. Re:Marijuana for Jobs by meistaiwan · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I'm starting chemotherapy tomorrow, diagnosed with Testicular cancer. I have to buy expensive synthetic THC drugs that hardly work instead of being allowed to use marijuana. Not that that is going to stop me.

    2. Re:Marijuana for Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Bob had bitch tits..."

    3. Re:Marijuana for Jobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hope you get well.

  87. I guess this is one way... by Prod_Deity · · Score: 1

    io get out of introducing the new iMacs. /kidding Hope all is well with Steve, and here's to a speedy recovery!!

  88. Nah, he'll never get rid of Ballmer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I couldn't resist. It was futile.

    1. Re:Nah, he'll never get rid of Ballmer. by tuatara222 · · Score: 1

      Well, the surgery would have to go a bit anteriad to involve the- oh, Ballmer-
      neeever mind...

  89. Obligatory Waugh on Churchill paraphrase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow, they found a part of Steve Jobs that was merely malignant

  90. GET THIS MAN A DOSE OF FOLK LORE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  91. Wishing him the best by XMichael · · Score: 1

    Here's to wish Steve the best, and hoping he has a swift and smooth recovery! Mike

  92. Windows Kills by M51DPS · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, Steve Jobs dies an untimely death Monday morning when one of the hospitals computers, running Microsoft Windows, suffers a minor "glitch" and prescribes an overdose of medication. Investigations are still underway.

  93. Use the long cable. by Trillan · · Score: 3, Informative

    The flippy one is only two prong. If you're connected to a USB item without ground, you'll get a shock through the case of the Powerbook if you're using only the two prong adapter.

    It happened to me a lot when I was overseas with flakey main power.

    1. Re:Use the long cable. by mikael · · Score: 1

      Now that's funny. Europeans consider any electrical appliance that doesn't have a ground prong as flakey.

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    2. Re:Use the long cable. by Hungry+Student · · Score: 1

      As far as 240v AC is concerned, i'd rather be safe than dead.

    3. Re:Use the long cable. by tiger99 · · Score: 1
      Incorrect. A few European countries are notoriously lax about electrical safety, but others, and the UK is one of many, are much more thorough than just about anywhere else in the world. It shows in our accident rate, which in industry is not very high nowadays, but people can, and sadly do, anything they like in their own homes, sometimes with tragic results. The curious thing is that with twice the voltage, the fatality rate per capita is much less than in the US. It is alleged that the human body is less tolerant of 60Hz than 50Hz, but there must also be other factors involved.

      In Europe it is normal for double insulated equipment to not have provision for grounding. Double insulated is generally taken to mean that there is primary insulation, (rated to typically 3750 volts to allow for spikes and transients, this high figure is very necessary!) and secondard insulation of equal capability, which will do the job if the primary insulation fails. In some circumstances it is not permissible, even at that.....

      The problem with power adaptors which give electric shocks (and yes, it is highly improper, and potentially dangerous) is that they designers have fitted capacitors between the live conductors and the casing, or signal ground, or whatever, in order to meet EMC regulations, and these are causing the equipment chassis etc to float at half the mains voltage (assuming one side is grounded). There are strict limits on the size of capacitor which is allowed in most countries to limit the current, and it sounds as if this has been greatly exceeded in this particular item of equipment. There are also extremely strict regulations relating to the construction and test of these capacitors, because a failure there will utterly negate any attempts at making the thing safe, for obvious reasons.

      If substantial voltages are finding their way onto what is effectively the equipment signal reference, they are also present on signal pins, and damage of the affected equipment, or whatever you are plugging it in to, is extremely likely, if the pins on the connector mate in the wrong order.

      Equipment like this should not be on sale, it is potentially highly destructive to other expensive equipment, even if the current is non-lethal, and shows extreme incompetence and ignorance on the part of the designer. It would not have been allowed in any company in which I have worked as a design engineer, and in most cases someone who allowed such a product to leave the company premises would be subject to instant dismissal. But clearly there are cowboy companies around who do not care about the integrity of their products or the potential legal liability.

    4. Re:Use the long cable. by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      What about where 240v AC isn't concerned?

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    5. Re:Use the long cable. by Trillan · · Score: 1

      Please note that I never said European. I said overseas. There is a great deal more to this world than the United States and Europe.

      Oh, and it was an Epson printer that caused the electrical shocks.

    6. Re:Use the long cable. by tiger99 · · Score: 1
      Fair comment, I mis-read or misunderstood I think. But I might mention that a fair part of the world nominally works to European or British standards but does not enforce them properly, or keep them up to date. Others work to US standards, some have their own, or none! Also, a lot of equipment coming into the UK from the far east is seriously deficient. The importer is technically liable AFAIK (IANAL), but often the importers are small businesses with negligible assets, so getting anything out of them in the event of an accident or equipment damage would be impossible. This sort of stuff also flouts EMC laws of course.

      As to Epsom, I have heard of this with a number of brands of equipment. I thought someone mentioned Apple. I could name a few more, in many cases it was cheap external power adaptors which were to blame, not the main equipment.

      For your information, the surface gap on the power supply PCB (or anything else where mains and low voltage is present) generally needs to be 7mm approximately (exact figure depends on dust-proofing the box etc), I have seen it as small as 2mm, and mains voltage wires inside, as well as outside, need an overall sheath, which I have seen, but it was PVC, was up against a hot resistor on the low voltage side, and...... BANG! That one came from a well-known Japanese manufacturer of audio equipment.

      The cost of doing it right is generally negligible, sadly the managers and accountants do not always agree, or do proper safety checks at the design stage.

      I usually work in hardware design by the way, often on safety-critical systems, so I see a whole spectrum from trash software down to sheer negligence by hardware people. And, if I am doing safety analysis, I often find things which are ridiculously over-engineered, but fall short on some little detail. I expect your Epsom printer's power supply was engineered to last for about 100 years (it is quite difficult not to, unless you stress components too close to their ratings), but someone skimped on one detail, such as checking, at a guess, the EMC capacitor values. Such is life.

    7. Re:Use the long cable. by Trillan · · Score: 1

      To be honest, everything over there (Philippines) was wired improperly. I could well imagine anyone with an understanding of electricity completely freaking out from the shoddiness of it all. It wasn't the appliances so much as the buildings. My AVR wound sometimes start singing in the middle of the night.

      I have no idea how many electrical accidents they have, but it must be a significant number. I know that if I ever have a house there, I am going to have a heck of a time finding a competent electrician, and even after I am going to check all the wiring myself.

      For that rental house, I managed to fix all the problems by finding access to the metal structure of the house. And I grounded all of my computer equipment's metal to it.

      I don't know how the fridge downstairs is grounded at all, but the electrician did it and it seems to work.

      Apologies if my earlier comment came across as rude. I don't think either of us meant that.

  94. Serious question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The superheated air that comes out of a G5 case, coupled with the 1.8 GHz radiation (the same frequency of a Microwave Oven), just can't be good for you, can it?

  95. One thing's for sure by skittixch · · Score: 1

    I don't think anyone else could keep me glued to an hour-and-a-half+ keynotes feed every year! go Jobs!

  96. Best wishes and a speedy recovery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish the very best for Steve Jobs and His family. A speedy recovery and no complications.
    I for one knows what He is going through and I hope He does not get the side effects of his condition. I have chronic pancreatitis from a congenital abnormality of my pancreas and complications from a previous surgery. It very painful and I am disabled from it. I just hope Steve Jobs does not have to cope with this also.
    Steve Jobs has a great imagination and a ton of great people working for Him.
    I have only used Apple products at a prior employer(school district). Great product for kids and graphic enthusiest(sp).
    Get well....Take it easy for recovery might be long...
    Walt

  97. To all those in doubt by Dylbert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Without Steve, a lot of us wouldn't have the jobs we do have (or don't have?) right aboot now - nor would we be using some of the taken-for-granted-now-but-revolutionary-at-the-tim e gadgets that we rely on every day.

    Get well soon, Steve. If the comments to this post are any gauge, you have the support of the nerd community across the globe.

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  98. Or... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    Doc: I've got great news.
    Steve: I'm fine?
    Doc: No, you have cancer, but i just saved a bundle by switching to Geico.

    Horrible, i know, but he's gonna be fine, so we can joke.

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  99. iCure by Wehesheit · · Score: 1

    n/t

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  100. Duck Head. by SKorvus · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Duck head". Called that because it looks vaguely like a Disney(R) trademarked character when viewed at the right angle. If you squint. It's true it's not normally covered by warranty: they're very simple physical parts that would only normally break due to abuse by a user. If you can explain the nature of the failure to AppleCare support, and indicate you didn't mistreat the poor thing, they might send you a free one. Hope this helps. :-)

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    1. Re:Duck Head. by jadenyk · · Score: 1

      What is it with Apple making parts that look like Disney characters. If anyone remembers the "yo-yo" power supplies, the cable that went from the wall to the circle part was called the "mouse-ears plug" because the end looked like Mickey Mouse.

  101. In other news... by ModernGeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... one of the authors of PearPC was hit by a train and killed.

    More on their site

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    1. Re:In other news... by Augusto · · Score: 1

      Did he commit suicide, or was this an accident. Wow, that's weird!!! poor guy.

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    2. Re:In other news... by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      quote " Did he commit suicide, or was this an accident. Wow, that's weird!!! poor guy"

      Must have been suicide... it happened at 23:00 hours...

      That's 11:00PM IIRC.

      Nobody would be around traintracks at that time of night.

  102. R.I.P. Bill Hicks by eidechse · · Score: 1

    Same thing (pancreatic cancer...not necessarily the rare kind) got him. Though I doubt he's all that peaceful; all things considered.

    N.B. No one should get this hideous mallady.

  103. Taking up a PayPal collection... by cabra771 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok everybody, let's get together and buy Steve an iPod to cheer him up a little.

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  104. Re:Seriously, folks by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 1

    In all fairness, he did say that Steve should think about how good a color iPod with Bluetooth would be.

    I think it's fair to assume that he intended for Steve to go, "Hmm... hmm... hmm... not at all," and then go back to thinking about whatever the next big thing is going to be.

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  105. Get well soon, Steve! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get well soon, Steve!

  106. micromanagement and credit where it is due by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If you'd be a little more informed, you'd know from talking with Apple engineers (lite I do at the Apple World Wide Developer Conference) that Jobs actually has a say in everything.

    Did you just seriously imply that you need to "talk to developers at WWDC" like you do(nice horn tootin' by the way) to know Jobs micromanages? It's probably his most infamous personality quirk, aside from his massive ego, aka the Steve Reality Distortion Field.

    You missed my point entirely. The original Jobs Fanboy said "ohmygosh, because, without Steve, we wouldn't have had..."

    Which is absurd, and ignores the fact that even if Jobs pushes his nose into everything, at the end of the day, 98% of the work was done by other people. I can't stand it when people attribute the end product entirely to CEOs...

    1. Re:micromanagement and credit where it is due by mj_1903 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ok, let me rephrase it for him:

      Without Steve Jobs, the products may exist, but they most certainly would not be up to the extraidonary standard they are.

      Case in point, the original iPod as designed by engineers (pre-release) was almost impossible to navigate. Jobs sat down with the team and worked out how you could get to anywhere on the iPod with only 3 clicks. That is what sets Apple's products apart and what makes them so successful.

  107. I can imagine it now by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    "I had a very rare form of pancreatic cancer called an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor, which represents about 1 percent of the total cases of pancreatic cancer diagnosed each year, and can be cured by surgical removal if diagnosed in time (mine was)."

    No doubt accompanied by a whizzy graphical presentation with lots of graphs and that spinny cube effect thing, preceeded naturally by the intro for the iPod.

    Glad he's ok though.

  108. An Apple A Day... by tod_miller · · Score: 0

    ...Keeps the Doctor Away!

    Maybe that was too obvious to be stated.

    Seriously, I hope he get swift and healthy recovery, and that Apple pay some of thier iPod profits to cancer research.

    Or anti-smoking campaigns. Or petitioning for stricter monitoring of electrical installations around homes. Or anti-pollution campaigns. Or fighting against chemical farming, and modern farming methods, overproduction and under delivery. The limitation of artificial colours and preservatives in all food and drinks.

    I think that covers most reasons why we have cancer.

    Get well soon!

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  109. So he uses Linux? by gunix · · Score: 1

    Steve Balmer said Linux is a cancer...

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  110. Re:Seriously, folks by justin_saunders · · Score: 1

    No idea - just my feeble attempt to think like Steve :-)

    My Guess:
    Bluetooth = wireless iTunes with random folks on the bus. An "I'm single and looking for man/woman/other" flag would make it a sure fire hit.
    Colour = it will only be seconds before someone ports MAME. Huzzah! Apple jumps in a steals the handheld market in the transition between Nintendo Gameboy and DS, Sony PSP etc.

    I didn't read the cell phone article - thanks for the pointer.

    j.

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  111. Macrobiotic or at least Organic diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being from California and a former "head" I would just assume Jobs would be into health food so what the hell happened? He looks great for an old hippy and has had a whole second coming with Pixar and Apple.

  112. Get well Steve, you are a very lucky man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi Yall & you know who,

    my father died of a pancreatic (sp?) cancer, back in 1992, about eight weeks after diagnosis. I find the "humour" understandable, but in *very* poor taste. To take pleasure at another's suffering, I find somewhat pathological.

    Steve, you have a second chance at life-that is a gift beyond value.

    Enjoy & may you fully recover.

    Greek Geek.

  113. 1% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I had a very rare form of pancreatic cancer called an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor, which represents about 1 percent of the total cases of pancreatic cancer diagnosed each year

    1%? You mean like Apple's market share?

    Sorry, couldn't resist... Good luck Steve.

    Posted from my trusty G4/400

  114. Cancer is never trivial. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cancer is never trivial.

  115. Re:No offense ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BS. So if he was filing for divorce, we'd need to hear about that here too? This is getting like People magazine and the Olsen twins...

  116. Sad news ... Steve Jobs, dead at 49 by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 0, Troll

    I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Apple CEO Steve Jobs was found dead in his Cupertino, CA home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to technology. Truly an American icon.

  117. Wishing him a speedy recovery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get well soon, Steve.

  118. iPump by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    The Innovative Apple iPump delivers all the insuline your body will ever need!

    You can purchase all your updates from the iPump Medical Store (IPMS).

    Available in 20, 30 and 40ml capacities.

    In Related news, Pfizer has announced they have cracked the FairMed protocol and can deliver Viagra directly from the device!!!

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  119. Good Luck Steve by q-the-impaler · · Score: 1

    I wish you a quick recovery.

    (NOTE: this post intended for real Karma whoring, not /. Karma whoring)

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  120. Poor Tim by victor_the_cleaner · · Score: 4, Funny

    So how many times do you think Steve is going to be checking in on Tim? I say he gets about 5-10 calls per day, then of course Steve will show up for un-announced visits.

    I certainly hope there is not a single slip-up when Steve is gone, otherwise Tim is out the door in September.

  121. Weird Network Symptoms by MisterSquid · · Score: 1

    you'll get a shock through the case of the Powerbook if you're using only the two prong adapter

    In the winter, even the gentlest brush with my Powerbook case would generate a loud static pop. A firewire hard drive, hooked up to to a different computer that was plugged into the same outlet, would disappear and that computer would complain "improperly removed firewire device . . ." xyz. It would also happen if my Powerbook on a different outlet but plugged into the Ethernet.

    I never did figure it out but became very careful about discharging any static electricity before getting near the PB.

    And just to stay on topic, two things. First, I wish Steve Jobs the quickest of recoveries. I'm glad his surgery went so well and the the form of cancer with which he was diagnosed was so easy to handle. I hope it is gone for good.

    Second, I know given this life-and-death situtation there are a thousand more important things to him and those close to him than computers, but I can only despair at the thought of what would happen if he were not around to drive Apple.

    I don't know him personally, but my life would be drastically affected, professionally and emotionally

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    1. Re:Weird Network Symptoms by Pantheraleo2k3 · · Score: 1

      My Thinkpad G40 does something like that as well. All of the metal parts are 30-some volts above ground, and the supposedly grounded wire of the AC adapter is 40-some volts above ground

  122. Lap dance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess too much RDF causes cancer....

    Yeah, and the thing had to be near his lap!

  123. Friend has same cancer in Nov 03 by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It was diagnosed by a sudden case of jaundice- turning orange and peeing black. The pancreas outlet is near the bile duct, so the tumor messed that up. This is basically a good sign, because if you diagnois it by adominal pain, it has probably spread too far for the operation.
    The Whipple operation removes a good fraction of your digestive system- part of pancreas, part of stomach, part of colon, gall bladder. My friend lost 50 pounds from post-op recovery and radiation. However has gained half that back. He's had to learn how to eat on a diminished digestive system. A sliver of the pancreas was left, so no insulin is necessary.

  124. NY Times Spin on the Article by victor_the_cleaner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find it interesting that the New York Times version of the story is titled, 'Apple Chief Has Emergency Cancer Surgery' seems they had to throw that 'Emergency' in there. The other places I have seen the story never mention 'Emergency' in the title or the body of the article.

    1. Re:NY Times Spin on the Article by toddhisattva · · Score: 3, Informative

      For the 63rd consecutive week, coming in at #1 on the New York Times fiction list, is the New York Times!

    2. Re:NY Times Spin on the Article by paxil · · Score: 1


      I find it interesting that the New York Times version of the story is titled, 'Apple Chief Has Emergency Cancer Surgery' seems they had to throw that 'Emergency' in there. The other places I have seen the story never mention 'Emergency' in the title or the body of the article.

      Consider this: Jobs had his surgery on a saturday. Hospitals (at least in the US) pretty much run on a skeleton crew on the weekends. It would be pretty unusual to schedule a case on saturday. Any time someone has surgery on a sturday or sunday you can be fairly certain it was because there was some sense of urgency.

      The New York Times 'Emergency' title is probably closest to the truth.

  125. Filling in a few blanks.... by PasteEater · · Score: 1

    How about:

    9am: Go to work, call boss a fascist pig
    10am: Have sex with his wife
    11am: Tell boss's wife she's a fascist pig
    12pm: Eat again

    etc.

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  126. Hooray! We'll get a 2 button mouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Maybe the new guy has a set of balls and we'll get a 2 button mouse now that the primary obstacle is temporarily out of the way.

  127. Apple without Steve Jobs? by MrHatken · · Score: 1


    What would happen to Apple if Steve Jobs was nolonger CEO for some reason?

    Steve is obviously the key driving force in Apple and this is not good for the long-term, unless a good succession plan is in place and someone is being groomed for the job.

    Companies that tend to last ages (doing very well) generally don't have to have CEOs like Steve Jobs (charismatic etc) but they do have to have a strong vision and core values (amongst other things).

    Importantly, they also need a good succession plan and grooming of future CEOs.

    Unfortunately, I think Apple is too heavily reliant on Steve Jobs, the whole company is sort of like the hands and feet for his "mind," which doesn't bode well if his mind leaves.

    Let's hope that Apple is trying to groom someone with the same characteristics (not necessarily charisma) as Steve, and building the vision and core values into the company itself.

    Long live Apple (and Steve Jobs)!

    MrHatken.

  128. That explain iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It makes me cringe when I see iTunes.

    Its clunky and makes you manage the tunes according to the ID3 tags, which is clumsy and limiting.

    Playlists are poorly implemented. I have an iPod, but iTunes is too much to bear. I use Xplay, which isn't any easier to use, but at least it has the saving grace of staying out of your way.

  129. Re:I like Apple products by hkb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, they're brushed metal, like Iron Man.

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  130. Re:Seriously, folks by jez9999 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, because Slashdot is really qualified to be commenting on useful features...

  131. Will this change the way Apple innovates? by amichalo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First: Steve, best wishes and speedy recovery. Millions of people are praying for you and wishing you well.

    Second: Does anyone think this will serve as a 'wake up' call to Apple's leadership and innovation practices?

    I am a Switcher and what I found when I started following the world-that-is-Apple that Steve === Apple. He was a founder, when he was outed the company went on a death spiral, when he came back it got a second life with the 1st gen iMac and now Appel rules digital music.

    But is that the best way to run a company? Certainly you NEED a strong leader, but it seems a bit pied piper to me. What would the next years look like for Apple if Steve had had terminal cancer? Has Apple grown into an organization that can go on without him?

    I work for a small business and our founder and president of three decades will soon retire. He has run his company very patriarchially (sp) and it has been interesting to see senior managment change their styles to rely less upon the president for decision making and instead, take that on themselves.

    I use that as an illustration of growing pains that Apple may one day soon face. How to instil the innovation and business savvy of Steve Jobs throughout the organization so that Apple will be a strong company well past Steve's tenure.

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    1. Re:Will this change the way Apple innovates? by ooze · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nothing wrong with enterprises heavily based on one person...As long as the person properly takes care of successors.

      While the biggest flaw in democracy is that the inept cripple the apted (the efficiency of the whole system is the product of the efficiency of it's parts...and noone can tell me there is no null in any parlament), the biggest flaw in single leadership is that is was most of the time more or less chance that the people getting the job were capable of it. A monarchy, when the crown is given to one descendent, is very prone to giving it to an inept. It was no coincidence, that the roman Empire started to diminish, when passing the title to a close relative became the custom. Before that the Emperor most of the time adopted some givted child and educated and trained it carefully to be the successor, Marc Aurelius being a most notable example. The rise of Prussia was the result of an incredible strain of luck of having 4-5 very different, but very able kings in succession.

      But well, we are talking about companies, so probably I'm talking nonsense.

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  132. Prognosis by Tucan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because this is a rare tumor there is not a lot of information available about the expected duration of survival following diagnosis. Based on a very small study of patients who had surgical treatment for nonfunctioning neuroendocrine tumors of the pancreas (the relevant category for neuroendocrine tumors) the median survival among patients is more than 10 years if the cancer has not spread to the lymph nodes. If the lymph nodes are positive for cancer then median survival is about 6 years. Because these statistics are based on only a few cases it is really impossible to say what Steve's individual prognosis would be. However, he's clearly better off with this type of tumor than with an adenocarcinoma, which has a median survival of about 18 months for the 20% of patients who are lucky enough to be diagnosed early enough to have surgery. Median survival is only about 4-5 months among those for whom surgery is not an option.

    I hope things continue to go well for him.

  133. Best wishes for a swift recovery, Steve! by puffbunny · · Score: 0

    Please get better! the world still needs you! :)

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  134. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Slashdot expects a body.

  135. Rumors by peteMG · · Score: 5, Funny
    Perhaps the next big thing coming up is:
    • Apple announces they'll be at some big medical conference
    • It's found out that Steve is giving the keynote
    • He talks about Apple's work in biotech and other scientific applications..
    • one more thing...
    • "We've developed a new piece of software. We call it 'Doctor'. Together with some beautiful new hardware, it can really do amazing things.. and I'd like to show it to you now."
    • cue video of a PowerBook
    • performing the cancer surgery
    • on steve
    • by itself
    • conference center thrown into chaos; Steve escapes by helicopter
    • international frenzy ensues. Apple stock rises 339948290580% (profit)

    Best wishes for luck and a speedy recovery.
  136. Get Well Soon Steve by hackus · · Score: 1

    Hello Steve,

    Get well soon. Speedy recovery and God Speed...

    -Hack

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  137. It's official... by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 1

    Apple is dying! :-P

  138. Re:STOP fawning over BILLIONAIRES...pretty please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, too bad Steve was never a homeless schmuck standing on a street corner holding a sign reading, "will try to change the world for a jet." I don't worship billionaires, I worship Wesley Willis-- oh wait, he's dead, isn't he? Well there are plenty other nutjobs to worship, who would you choose?

  139. Lighten up Francis by whats_a_zip · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Geez, ever hear of gallows humor? Who among us hasn't lost someone dear to cancer, or has someone close to them battling the disease. Yeah, it happens. I haven't seen a single post that wished ill upon Steve Jobs. Get a sense of humor... by the way, they say laughing reduces the risk of cancer. So consider this group therapy.

  140. Lucky! by Misanthropy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow! He's very lucky they caught it early. Most people don't survive pancreatic cancer as it will usually metastisize much easier than other cancer types.
    Interesting coincidence that I just had a lecture (med school) this morning about a pancreatic cancer case and then get on slashdot to read that Jobs has it.
    I wish him well. It's one of the worst cancers to get.

  141. CONSPIRACY!! by MonkeyPie · · Score: 1

    I being a PearPc user since my Powerbook was stolen, have noticed that PearPC has steadily progressed in areas of speed and use. Apple, fearing that PearPc will soon be able to fully emulate the PPC architecture, decided they had to do something. Frightened, they killed off one of the developers. Who's next?

  142. This makes me think of another genius by Daynras · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bill Hicks died from pancreatic cancer on February 26, 1994.

    He was a stand up comedian known for his controversial political topics, showing a --fairly uncommon-- tendency to tell the simple, naked truth.

    I wish all the Bills out there were the same... yes Mr. Gates, I am talking to you :)))

    Here there are some of his quotes.

    In these strange days we are living, we cannot afford forgetting his humour.

  143. Something to Pass the Time by not_hylas(+) · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dear Steve,
    Here are a few things to help you pass the time (yes, we know you read Slashdot).
    You are for all intents and purposes "on mandatory holiday", make the most of it.
    We assume you have a Powerbook on your roll over table and some kind of mouse, so shoo everyone away and have 'em close the door.

    First update your OS, go to ...err, nevermind.

    Hmmmm, to get started, let's smack some penguins.

    http://henriluoma.net/pingu/

    If anyone comes in, go here on a tab in Safari, CLICK! lalalala-I'm doing business.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8& pr ev=/search%3Fq%3DAAPL%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF -8%26sa%3DG&q=stocks:AAPL+

    OK, that's enough excitement, chill for a bit, this is a girl I used to know - made a few records back in the day, you might like it.

    http://www.universalrecords.com/quicktime/ediebr ic kell/

    OK, awake? Let's have some real fun, First, get a throw away email account.

    http://mail.yahoo.com/?.intl=us

    You know get a screen account name like "ByteMe!@yahoo.com"

    Set?
    So, ask yourself what have you wanted to say to some of these jokers on certain sites that you couldn't because, well, you haven't had the time?

    Go crazy. the Hospitals IP number IS temporary, right?

    (practice your maniacal laugh) It helps if you give the morphine drip a couple of sqeezes. :-) Having fun yet?

    Take a break, more music.

    http://corinnesmusic.com/

    (yeah, I like her)

    Back?

    What to do, what to do ... (tap, tap, tap).
    These guys are always fun:

    http://www.appleturns.com/

    Don't split a stitch Steve-o.

    Alrighty then, since your're pretty much left to your own devices here, I think the Army still has that free shoot 'em up on their site:

    http://www.americasarmy.com/

    I know you got the hang of it, so I'll be wishing you the best, get well, you know we love you.
    (Never mind the Bullocks ...)

    P.S. Ask for the ICE CREAM - they have it you know.

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  144. Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steve had a variety that comprises 1% of the pancreatic cancers - roughly the same as Apple's market share :-) :-)

  145. Are you fucking retarded? by Gannoc · · Score: 1

    Not a single treatment has come out from embryonic stem cell research.

    Yeah, and in 1920 not a single treatment had ever come out of mold either.

    And you mean you want to INJECT someone with a VIRUS in order to cure them of it??? burn the witch! Burn him! If Jesus wanted us to cure smallpox he'd vaccinate us Himself!

  146. An iPancreas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    was implanted to control his insulin levels.

    The replacement battery's gonna be VERY expensive.

  147. What's wrong with iTunes? by cocoa+moe · · Score: 1
    Playlists are poorly implemented

    iTunes playlists are quite nice. You are perhaps the kind of user who likes to mantain a deep hierarchical folder-structure to sub-categorize according to your own categories. As iTunes playlists are "flat" you are unhapy with it. iTunes uses the ID-tags just for the purpose they where invented for.

    CDDB is sometimes really bad when it comes to proper tags, but that's not iTunes fault.

    I've seen X11Amp, music match and a bunch of other mp3-players, none of them was half as good as iTunes. But there is one thing that bothers me: I sometimes change a song attribute that is a selection criteria for my current view. So the song pops away and it takes more than 3 clicks to find the song again (even if it is currently playing). :-/

    1. Re:What's wrong with iTunes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just select "show current song" from the menu

  148. Get well Steve! by psyconaut · · Score: 1

    Pretty sure he doesn't read Slashdot, but seems appropriate to post ;-)

    He also did a very good job of keeping it quiet -- I wonder if Apple's PR folk were enlisted for that? :-)

    -psy

  149. hopefully it's intentional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    notice how he remembers to capitalize Google but not god. gotta love him.

  150. Get Well Soon Steve! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We wish you a speedy and full recovery!

  151. Re:Seriously, folks by the+pickle · · Score: 1

    Bluetooth = wireless iTunes with random folks on the bus. An "I'm single and looking for man/woman/other" flag would make it a sure fire hit.

    You've been reading The Register again, haven't you? ;)

    p

  152. Get well, Steve by macdaddy · · Score: 1

    Pancreatic killed my grandpa in '98. I'm glad they found Steve's in time. I'm curious how they came across it. Is there a new simple examination that would show such a problem like the mamograms for women?

  153. MOD PARENT UP! by archangel77 · · Score: 1

    No Text

  154. Steve Jobs - ($ | healthcare plan) = SOL by iamcf13 · · Score: 1
    Just like the millions of Americans who don't have access to lifesaving healthcare because they are poor or do not have access to some sort of healthcare plan. When he was President, Clinton tried to get a national healthcare plan up and running that would be available to all Americans but nothing happened.

    Why?

    The answer is obvious to the corporate powers that be: Too Expensive To Implement.


    [10] For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.


    -- 1 Timothy 6:10 of KJV Bible at umich.edu
  155. Re:Seriously, folks by justin_saunders · · Score: 1


    And what of it? :-)

    cheers,
    j.

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  156. metamod notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call this guy offtopic if you will, but Troll gets metamodded as Unfair.

  157. Re:Seriously, folks by Milton+Waddams · · Score: 1
    Take the time off to think about how great a colour iPod with bluetooth would be.
    Joking aside, I hate the way useless features (an iPod with a colour display) are often preferred than improving existing products (like extending the battery life to 40 hours). Just a thought...
  158. Re:Not really. by tiger99 · · Score: 1
    Ah yes the Phillipines...... That explains many of your problems. Such countries tend to grab what they can of, in this case, US technology, without checking that they have got all the details right, or put all the necessary regulations in place. Funnily enough, Singapore, which adimttedly has a lot more wealth, does it better. I think the standards vary but the hotels I have been in had UK style 13 amp sockets, which implies fused plugs. Being a nosy person, I did check them for the correct BS1363 mark, which was correct. But I don't know how good or bad the bits that I could not see may have been!

    But Pakistan, and other ex-British colonies, are still using the 15 amp eound-pin plugs we banned around 1954 for new installations. No fuse, and likely no fuse anywhere because in the less well-developed parts (i.e. most), many houses have an illegal connection to the public supply. The prospective fault current could be many thousands of amps if they are near the sub-station. Should cause lots of fires.

    I do wonder if the reason some parts of the far east have become economically successful is because they have handled basic things like electricty supply properly, whereas others have not. And yet Japan has a mixture of both voltage and frequency, and if I remember correctly they are one of the places with an odball 3-phase system in some parts with one phase grounded and a very non-standard voltage. I used to have a chart of all this, can't find it now but I expect it is all on the net somewhere.

    In one part of Holland I once measured about 140V from one pin of the socket to ground, and 130V from the other, but only just over 200V between pins, so obviously they had some stange phasing problems or the neutral had become ungrounded, or my measurement ground, a copper water pipe, may have been live. Quite dangerous for those from elsewhere in Europe who plug in with an adaptor, their equipment and extension leads etc may be single-pole fused and this "seemed" to be a double-pole system. But again, the ground may have been the thing that was wrong........ And I was trying to keep musicians with guitar amplifiers and keyboards and PA systems safe, not easy at the best of times.

    Large parts of Europe use reversible plugs (not a good idea) and some have grounds that only make contact after the live pins, very bad indeed. This seems to have happened because each country had their own standards and some idiot found that by compromising the tolerances a little bit here and there, most countries plugs would just about go into another's sockets, so they improvised a horrid plug with side contacts for grounding in some places and a female ground contact for others. What they forgot is that it will fit into absolutely any ungrounded socket, so you can have potentially lethal equipment such as washing machines (lots of water, many possible leakage mechanisms in the motor windings and other places) plugged in and running in a kitchen, within touch distance of grounded plumbing. Not nice.

    In the UK we have standards for inspection and test before a new installation will be connected, but these in many instances are not mandatory, although fairly well enforced. But, after that, there is no check on what people do, and as in other areas, I have seen some real horrors in domestic installations. But I guess most installations are OK as there are not many electrical accidents. I do my own wiring, which is legal here, and I take a lot of trouble to make it safe. A little over-engineering such as separate circuit breakers for the computer room has other benefits as well. I may have spent a little bit more on materials than most people, but at least the labour was "free".

    Good luck with the house in the Phillipines. The weather tends to be very nice, at least it was when I was there, but only passing through, sadly.