Nothing against it at all. I was just giving my answer to why people end up with usb2 enabled toiletpaper, that's it. I'm not pro or against usb (although I object that it could have been deployed better, after all it has been a massive beta test for usb2), I'm just aware that it's a proprietary imposed standard like rambus, yet more fortunate (and perhaps useful) than the latter.
Uh, I don't think so. USB belongs to intel. Remember when usb was first forced down our throats? (it was the 440LX chipset I think) It was a useless plug nobody used but nonetheless you couldn't buy a machine without it because intel simply made it impossible to do so. Now that it is ubiquitous intel can levy massive royalties. I'm pretty shure intel wants to shove it's usb2 anywhere it can either with convincing or coercive arguments.
FOX? You mean Fox News (I was trying to be sarcastic, Fox News flies in the face of journalistic objectiveness). You're right about the behavioural description you gave, it's quite correct; although I don't think it applies to my reply to your flippant comment. In two lines you upheld a typical demeaning attitude towards protesters branding them as a bunch of clueless morons. My reply was directed towards you intention to downplay their numbers and intelligence. I'm shure you're smart enought to understand that. Your writing suggests you're a well educated and smart fellow so you can't honestly say we defend Saddam or that we were just a couple of thousands. On the other hand, I agree that your initial comment irritated me on a well beaten spot and blew me into a rant but I'm also quite convinced you just set a flamebait.
You're right. Infact I hope Adobe gets off it's ass and move to better cryptography for it's permission scheme. But remember xpdf has patches to get around document restrictions and so does ghostscript (some.ps preambles) Just upping to 128 bit won't help at all given the open format PDF is so this can only mean one thing... M$ is going to do some weird os enforced attribute scheme and proprietary undocumented encryption. Uh, surprising eh?
Please stop holding your little closed argeument with your parody opponent. I don't understand can you please reformulate? The moves being made by the US are about as far from Colonialism as can be. That's subjective. In my view waging war against Iraq is just a first step in the middle east region redesign (and today your president's declarations somehow confirmed it). I'm not defending Saddam but criticizing the method. The colonialists are the French and their ilk. The French are playing little colonial games in the Ivory Coast right now. I agree France is an ex-colonial country like almost all european ones (which qualifiies them as ilk I suppose). I'm not very informed in the current Ivory Coast crisis but I'm shure you can summarize the coverage FOX gave to it; our media is all into the parliamentary catfight and the obligatory insults, fighting to please this or that side (sounds familiar eh?).
Thousands? Don't downplay the numbers;-) it was Millions. BTW, how come you're suddenly interested in the civil liberties of some bloke living in a remote country? Generally speaking as long as the raw materials and fuel keep feeding the western world any regime is ok, isn't it? Before pouring over the 9/11 rethoric please mind that over here in Europe we live nextdoor to them and given the large immigrant communities we host I'm not speaking figuratively off a global map. Pissing them off isn't very hygienic for our communities and the worst thing we can do is put the colonial hat and go 'teaching democracy' like the Brits did in the 19th century (ever read Heart of Darkness?). Those Millions care for the iraqui's liberties just as much as you do friend; just, they don't like the 'God is with Us' attitude of your president.
Hey, why are you standig for M$ so blindly? Would it be ok for you if Ford devised a proprietary (DMCA protected) gas tank inlet forcing the owner to refuel only in licensed stations? (@ twice the price) The similitude doesn't work 100% because you're still not _forced_ to buy such a car but that's because Ford hasn't had the chance to put a stranglehold on OEMs (no such thing exists for automobiles but I hope you get the point) Just because the industry has always enjoyed the liberty to trample over the consumer doesn't mean it's fair and ok...
The irony. M$ claiming license fees for GPL software just for the effort of signing the bloody app! That's not simple monopoly abuse, it's plain FEUDALISM!
@ some point in their lifes even those braindamaged users you're taking as an example will have configured outlook setting up server, uid and password fields. Of course some day in the future there won't be email any more but just hotmail preconfigured for your passport account taken from your winxp^2product activation code (universal tracking id) linked the ipv6 addresses of all your silicon gadgets. I for one, hope I'll be well into my senility dementia. Btw, last time I saw confusion in the subject was in some provider's config violating the usual UID@provider.etc (standard since the early '90 if not before) and asking for the whole address in the uid field; why? I guess some clueless manager ordered to replicate the screen-name concept to pleasantly surprise the odd customer... shame it confused all the others. People (with limited exceptions) aren't impermeable to learning, they just go nuts when the rules of the game get changed every patch release; eventually they give up and leave the harasser in command.
No man just give me a break! The very first thing I learned to use the day I bought internet access for my win95 486 was mIRC and there's no way in hell I'll say it was difficult. I really don't think this older-than-6-month bashing attitude has any reason except that you just decided to buy the marketing crap urging to upgrade to the latest and greatest gizmo. Face it, these folks are just reinventing the wheel (and something like ICQ on pretty Luna GFX) and trying to convince the world that their design is rounder than all the other...
I snapshotted the page and made it my desktop background because even with twice the average slashdotting traffic the slashdot website is still up and running... You can't slashdot slashdot!
I seem to fit your description pretty neatly. But I disagree on the 'no excuse' part. If I help somebody with a simple page that reaches 80% of all Internet users, why does that oblige me to figure out how to make it work for the other 20%?
Because you shouldn't "figure out" how to make it work on other than ie. You should write standards compliant code and stylesheets period. IF you want to "figure out" how to deform the standard compliant code to get ie to display correctly THEN you should do the same for the other browsers.
You said you use txted to write stuff, good but then you say you test in ie, that's bad. ie is a BROWSER, not a development tool! Want to verify your code? Use HTML Tidy, it's available on the w3c site. ie takes so many shortcuts and exceptions to the standard that it doesn't provide reliable debugging to your code (even between different revisions of the same program).
And finally, you ask why should you waste you precious time to get the thing done correctly? I say for the sake of politeness. You're asking for attention right? Might as well follow the agreed upon procedure and say hello, present yourself, ask for permission, etc... That's in real life, on the web it equates to using standards.
after all osx already comes with all the components: mail, adreessbook, ical. Calendar sharing is a just a couple of dialogues and interfaces away. In iCal new appointmens could launch mail's compose window with the request preattached (no self-send stuff please! we don't want outlook virii) and the location availablity is just a dav calendar flagged to a resource rather than a person. Apple just has to package a server config interface, add a couple of icons and documantation and roll it's own. Integrated for easy rollout, open (mime-atttach passing across apps) for the sophisticated that want the option, many specialized apps to appease the unixers, cool to stick it at Bill!
Cool it. I don't think anyone here thinks Bush had any fault in the probe's misfortunes; I'd be surprised if the man had anything to do with such a blasphemous ordeal. I mean shooting a probe up into the Heavens (oh!), to gather Scientific Data (save us!) and having the gall to crash it into one of God almighty's firmament stars! (amen!);-) No, no. Nobody thinks Bush is a man of such things.
This time M$ really led innovation! R&D labs in Redmond graced us with yet another exciting technology never seen before abiding to their long standing tradition ( story on Google cache) of encouraging the improvement of today's tech...
Sorry for you man but for those guys you're just another idiot to screw. Real bigass customers probably have DVDs with oogles of good codes or key generation servers in-house. Actually no sensible business would accept the standard EULA M$ pushes down your throat. By that I mean the one that voids any kind of guarantee, fitenss for sale or any particular purpose. Honestly, the first time I read it, I was shocked: it more or less states that M$ is selling you a bunck of crap, a brick in a nice package, gasoline mixed with water, a refurbished car after an accident claiming it in perfect condition. My favourite joke is that next EULA will require to run naked down the street singing some M$ prayer before logging in WinXP(ired). Sorry, but your bucks have already been accounted for the moment you ripped that shrink wrap, now you're on your own, perhaps kept afloat on some untold M$ goodwill effort. If you're trying to do anything more than DVDs, email and gaming you should either see what sort of big-iron support they claim to provide or migrate to some serious environment.
A HW accelerated encryption engine would give us snappy remote xsessions out of the box with ssh->ssl->kernel hw calls. I'd love this, imagine running fwbuilder on your remote fw from home. It's a must for teleworking.
Uh, sorry no games on my box, I enjoy/.much more... Oh, btw no box here (macs don't classify as boxes). Last (promise), I'll be fine as long as the virii aren't ported
But imagine watching it in quicktime stream, lo-fi of course, hiband requires qtpro:(.... and the presentation, sorry the keynote, ahem... the SotU... "We havo lots of COOL thinks for you today; enough for 3 SotUs"
He, @ least Apple makes cool computers, over here in Italy our big cat Berlusconi has his own TV conglomerate and controls national TV... cheap!
Be paranoid; it'll be named, possiblty for that Xenix thing they used to make. The press will have their cover story and Ballmer, Gates & Co. a new virginity. Some months later some NDAd extra-judicial settlement will part M$ from some millions (those the California citizens won't have claimed, just to stick a finger) and everybody will live happily ever after... just in time for longhorn;)
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Nothing against it at all. I was just giving my answer to why people end up with usb2 enabled toiletpaper, that's it. I'm not pro or against usb (although I object that it could have been deployed better, after all it has been a massive beta test for usb2), I'm just aware that it's a proprietary imposed standard like rambus, yet more fortunate (and perhaps useful) than the latter.
Uh, I don't think so. USB belongs to intel. Remember when usb was first forced down our throats? (it was the 440LX chipset I think) It was a useless plug nobody used but nonetheless you couldn't buy a machine without it because intel simply made it impossible to do so. Now that it is ubiquitous intel can levy massive royalties. I'm pretty shure intel wants to shove it's usb2 anywhere it can either with convincing or coercive arguments.
FOX? You mean Fox News (I was trying to be sarcastic, Fox News flies in the face of journalistic objectiveness).
You're right about the behavioural description you gave, it's quite correct; although I don't think it applies to my reply to your flippant comment. In two lines you upheld a typical demeaning attitude towards protesters branding them as a bunch of clueless morons. My reply was directed towards you intention to downplay their numbers and intelligence. I'm shure you're smart enought to understand that. Your writing suggests you're a well educated and smart fellow so you can't honestly say we defend Saddam or that we were just a couple of thousands. On the other hand, I agree that your initial comment irritated me on a well beaten spot and blew me into a rant but I'm also quite convinced you just set a flamebait.
You're right. Infact I hope Adobe gets off it's ass and move to better cryptography for it's permission scheme. But remember xpdf has patches to get around document restrictions and so does ghostscript (some .ps preambles) Just upping to 128 bit won't help at all given the open format PDF is so this can only mean one thing... M$ is going to do some weird os enforced attribute scheme and proprietary undocumented encryption. Uh, surprising eh?
Please stop holding your little closed argeument with your parody opponent.
I don't understand can you please reformulate?
The moves being made by the US are about as far from Colonialism as can be.
That's subjective. In my view waging war against Iraq is just a first step in the middle east region redesign (and today your president's declarations somehow confirmed it). I'm not defending Saddam but criticizing the method.
The colonialists are the French and their ilk. The French are playing little colonial games in the Ivory Coast right now.
I agree France is an ex-colonial country like almost all european ones (which qualifiies them as ilk I suppose). I'm not very informed in the current Ivory Coast crisis but I'm shure you can summarize the coverage FOX gave to it; our media is all into the parliamentary catfight and the obligatory insults, fighting to please this or that side (sounds familiar eh?).
Thousands? Don't downplay the numbers ;-) it was Millions.
BTW, how come you're suddenly interested in the civil liberties of some bloke living in a remote country? Generally speaking as long as the raw materials and fuel keep feeding the western world any regime is ok, isn't it? Before pouring over the 9/11 rethoric please mind that over here in Europe we live nextdoor to them and given the large immigrant communities we host I'm not speaking figuratively off a global map. Pissing them off isn't very hygienic for our communities and the worst thing we can do is put the colonial hat and go 'teaching democracy' like the Brits did in the 19th century (ever read Heart of Darkness?).
Those Millions care for the iraqui's liberties just as much as you do friend; just, they don't like the 'God is with Us' attitude of your president.
Hey, why are you standig for M$ so blindly?
Would it be ok for you if Ford devised a proprietary (DMCA protected) gas tank inlet forcing the owner to refuel only in licensed stations? (@ twice the price) The similitude doesn't work 100% because you're still not _forced_ to buy such a car but that's because Ford hasn't had the chance to put a stranglehold on OEMs (no such thing exists for automobiles but I hope you get the point)
Just because the industry has always enjoyed the liberty to trample over the consumer doesn't mean it's fair and ok...
The irony. M$ claiming license fees for GPL software just for the effort of signing the bloody app! That's not simple monopoly abuse, it's plain FEUDALISM!
Gee, first time for me ;-)
@ some point in their lifes even those braindamaged users you're taking as an example will have configured outlook setting up server, uid and password fields. Of course some day in the future there won't be email any more but just hotmail preconfigured for your passport account taken from your winxp^2product activation code (universal tracking id) linked the ipv6 addresses of all your silicon gadgets. I for one, hope I'll be well into my senility dementia. Btw, last time I saw confusion in the subject was in some provider's config violating the usual UID@provider.etc (standard since the early '90 if not before) and asking for the whole address in the uid field; why? I guess some clueless manager ordered to replicate the screen-name concept to pleasantly surprise the odd customer... shame it confused all the others.
People (with limited exceptions) aren't impermeable to learning, they just go nuts when the rules of the game get changed every patch release; eventually they give up and leave the harasser in command.
No man just give me a break! The very first thing I learned to use the day I bought internet access for my win95 486 was mIRC and there's no way in hell I'll say it was difficult. I really don't think this older-than-6-month bashing attitude has any reason except that you just decided to buy the marketing crap urging to upgrade to the latest and greatest gizmo. Face it, these folks are just reinventing the wheel (and something like ICQ on pretty Luna GFX) and trying to convince the world that their design is rounder than all the other...
I snapshotted the page and made it my desktop background because even with twice the average slashdotting traffic the slashdot website is still up and running... You can't slashdot slashdot!
Mod parent up, please...
I seem to fit your description pretty neatly. But I disagree on the 'no excuse' part. If I help somebody with a simple page that reaches 80% of all Internet users, why does that oblige me to figure out how to make it work for the other 20%?
Because you shouldn't "figure out" how to make it work on other than ie. You should write standards compliant code and stylesheets period. IF you want to "figure out" how to deform the standard compliant code to get ie to display correctly THEN you should do the same for the other browsers.
You said you use txted to write stuff, good but then you say you test in ie, that's bad. ie is a BROWSER, not a development tool! Want to verify your code? Use HTML Tidy, it's available on the w3c site. ie takes so many shortcuts and exceptions to the standard that it doesn't provide reliable debugging to your code (even between different revisions of the same program).
And finally, you ask why should you waste you precious time to get the thing done correctly? I say for the sake of politeness. You're asking for attention right? Might as well follow the agreed upon procedure and say hello, present yourself, ask for permission, etc... That's in real life, on the web it equates to using standards.
after all osx already comes with all the components: mail, adreessbook, ical. Calendar sharing is a just a couple of dialogues and interfaces away. In iCal new appointmens could launch mail's compose window with the request preattached (no self-send stuff please! we don't want outlook virii) and the location availablity is just a dav calendar flagged to a resource rather than a person.
Apple just has to package a server config interface, add a couple of icons and documantation and roll it's own. Integrated for easy rollout, open (mime-atttach passing across apps) for the sophisticated that want the option, many specialized apps to appease the unixers, cool to stick it at Bill!
Cool it. I don't think anyone here thinks Bush had any fault in the probe's misfortunes; I'd be surprised if the man had anything to do with such a blasphemous ordeal. I mean shooting a probe up into the Heavens (oh!), to gather Scientific Data (save us!) and having the gall to crash it into one of God almighty's firmament stars! (amen!) ;-) No, no. Nobody thinks Bush is a man of such things.
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This time M$ really led innovation! R&D labs in Redmond graced us with yet another exciting technology never seen before abiding to their long standing tradition ( story on Google cache) of encouraging the improvement of today's tech...
Sorry for you man but for those guys you're just another idiot to screw. Real bigass customers probably have DVDs with oogles of good codes or key generation servers in-house. Actually no sensible business would accept the standard EULA M$ pushes down your throat. By that I mean the one that voids any kind of guarantee, fitenss for sale or any particular purpose. Honestly, the first time I read it, I was shocked: it more or less states that M$ is selling you a bunck of crap, a brick in a nice package, gasoline mixed with water, a refurbished car after an accident claiming it in perfect condition. My favourite joke is that next EULA will require to run naked down the street singing some M$ prayer before logging in WinXP(ired).
Sorry, but your bucks have already been accounted for the moment you ripped that shrink wrap, now you're on your own, perhaps kept afloat on some untold M$ goodwill effort. If you're trying to do anything more than DVDs, email and gaming you should either see what sort of big-iron support they claim to provide or migrate to some serious environment.
Uh, wait a minute that's wrong! Your meant: The Architecture Formerly Known As Palladium...
A HW accelerated encryption engine would give us snappy remote xsessions out of the box with ssh->ssl->kernel hw calls. I'd love this, imagine running fwbuilder on your remote fw from home. It's a must for teleworking.
Uh, sorry no games on my box, I enjoy /.much more... Oh, btw no box here (macs don't classify as boxes).
Last (promise), I'll be fine as long as the virii aren't ported
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power"-- Mussolini
Your footnote man! STUNNING...
But imagine watching it in quicktime stream, lo-fi of course, hiband requires qtpro :(. ... and the presentation, sorry the keynote, ahem... the SotU... "We havo lots of COOL thinks for you today; enough for 3 SotUs"
He, @ least Apple makes cool computers, over here in Italy our big cat Berlusconi has his own TV conglomerate and controls national TV... cheap!
Be paranoid; it'll be named, possiblty for that Xenix thing they used to make. The press will have their cover story and Ballmer, Gates & Co. a new virginity. Some months later some NDAd extra-judicial settlement will part M$ from some millions (those the California citizens won't have claimed, just to stick a finger) and everybody will live happily ever after... just in time for longhorn ;)