...but my experience has been that a large (or at least largely vocal) part of that community is made up of idealists and professional bitchers who think everything should be open source and free.
Well, yes. But as with every community, FLOSS also has trolls, suckers, whiners and bitches...but everyone else has them too. And those are the loudest of the community. While *some* people will whine all over the internet how bad this is, everyone else will be busy playing games on Steam.
...and they have a stronger position to negotiate for windows licences.
Yeah, I can see that talk already coming: "Hello, this is Valve, give us a discount or we'll develop even more stuff for Linux." - "Yeah...did you know that we own Linux because of out patents? How about you giving up that little Linux idea of yours before we sue you into oblivion?" - "You don't Linux in any way, proof it!" - "Yeah, let's sign this NDA first." - "Never, why should we?" - "See you in court."
You know what really good about this is? I can imagine Valve beating up Microsoft hard time.
But to get to a more productive road, are you a developer of Firefox? If yes, what can we (the community) do to help you devs get those marketing-guys, which want FF to be all shiny like Chrome *sigh*, out of Mozilla? We have pitchforks and torches, if that would help?!
On a more serious note: What is really going on over by you? I have the feeling marketing took over Mozilla...
I actually like the Brown/Orange approach...but you know what, I just had the biggest idea ever! They could write a tool, you know, which let us select themes! That would be awesome...it's very strange that no one thought of that by now...
Thanks for explaining that. Now I understand why I have a problem with that philosophy. I'm the "I want to see everything at one glance, no matter how cluttered up it seems, I know where everything is" type. Thanks.
You've been running Windows 8 on the Desktop? I'm not ranting, I'm interested. What's your setup? What do you do "normally"?
I'm asking because I'm more of the "tiled window manager" and "I want my windows where I want them" type, and I can hardly imagine working with something like Gnome 3, Unity or Metro (hell, I have trouble working with Explorer)...but that doesn't mean that I'm resistant to learning the benefits of those system.
They're still U.S. based, so technically under their jurisdiction. It's the same as if you and one other guy from your country goes into foreign country, you then kill that guy there (with evidence left behind) and return into your country...can you then get arrested for murder at home?
That seems to be everyones philosophy of late: Apple, Microsoft, the Gnome Devs, Canonical, the guys which design Android...for crying out loud, I even can't find fitting shoes anymore because they all look the same.
I'm all for Thin Clients if they make sense. F.e. if the workstations need to access a database on the server anyway to get work done, you make them Thin Clients in the first place. On the other hand, thin clients are abused on places where they do not belong...and vice versa. I've seen many abuses of workstations, too.
If I understood this correct, it's more along the way of "Motorola is not allowed to damage your business by stopping sales in Germany", if they still do it, they can sue Motorola on U.S. ground for breaking that order of the court. They're both still U.S. based companies, so technically that's silly, but possible.
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...but my experience has been that a large (or at least largely vocal) part of that community is made up of idealists and professional bitchers who think everything should be open source and free.
Well, yes. But as with every community, FLOSS also has trolls, suckers, whiners and bitches...but everyone else has them too. And those are the loudest of the community. While *some* people will whine all over the internet how bad this is, everyone else will be busy playing games on Steam.
...but it's still funny to me to see the /. community all excited about rumors that someone is going to port a DRM platform to Linux.
Baby steps my friend, baby steps. It's the first step...though, not sure where this will take us, but can't be bad, ey?
...and they have a stronger position to negotiate for windows licences.
Yeah, I can see that talk already coming: "Hello, this is Valve, give us a discount or we'll develop even more stuff for Linux." - "Yeah...did you know that we own Linux because of out patents? How about you giving up that little Linux idea of yours before we sue you into oblivion?" - "You don't Linux in any way, proof it!" - "Yeah, let's sign this NDA first." - "Never, why should we?" - "See you in court."
You know what really good about this is? I can imagine Valve beating up Microsoft hard time.
Title-bar changes *can only* be Windows-only...all other operating systems do not let the window handle it's titlebar, but the window manager.
We have no interest in forcing users to run the latest version.
Well, that sounded differently just some time ago.
But to get to a more productive road, are you a developer of Firefox? If yes, what can we (the community) do to help you devs get those marketing-guys, which want FF to be all shiny like Chrome *sigh*, out of Mozilla? We have pitchforks and torches, if that would help?!
On a more serious note: What is really going on over by you? I have the feeling marketing took over Mozilla...
I actually like the Brown/Orange approach...but you know what, I just had the biggest idea ever! They could write a tool, you know, which let us select themes! That would be awesome...it's very strange that no one thought of that by now...
sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar-thingy-please-look-up-name-with-apt-cache-search
As far as I know, you *could* do it in PHP, because there's a PHP-to-native compiler out there...somewhere...
That's called "increasing job security".
Thanks for explaining that. Now I understand why I have a problem with that philosophy. I'm the "I want to see everything at one glance, no matter how cluttered up it seems, I know where everything is" type. Thanks.
Okay, I don't get it, can someone translate that for me?
You've been running Windows 8 on the Desktop? I'm not ranting, I'm interested. What's your setup? What do you do "normally"?
I'm asking because I'm more of the "tiled window manager" and "I want my windows where I want them" type, and I can hardly imagine working with something like Gnome 3, Unity or Metro (hell, I have trouble working with Explorer)...but that doesn't mean that I'm resistant to learning the benefits of those system.
Windows Retarded? *eg*
"Just sit and wait here, Mr. Bond, while I fiahrm...start the Therapy-Laser."
They're still U.S. based, so technically under their jurisdiction. It's the same as if you and one other guy from your country goes into foreign country, you then kill that guy there (with evidence left behind) and return into your country...can you then get arrested for murder at home?
You'll LOVE Windows 8! *eg*
Oh, then forget that I wrote something...
Java is deprecated.
Please don't tell me you're a .NET developer...pretty please...
That seems to be everyones philosophy of late: Apple, Microsoft, the Gnome Devs, Canonical, the guys which design Android...for crying out loud, I even can't find fitting shoes anymore because they all look the same.
Yeah, exactly. And if there is a law, how can we either circumvent it (no, sorry, that speaker broke just some minutes ago Officer) or get rid of it.
I'm all for Thin Clients if they make sense. F.e. if the workstations need to access a database on the server anyway to get work done, you make them Thin Clients in the first place. On the other hand, thin clients are abused on places where they do not belong...and vice versa. I've seen many abuses of workstations, too.
If I understood this correct, it's more along the way of "Motorola is not allowed to damage your business by stopping sales in Germany", if they still do it, they can sue Motorola on U.S. ground for breaking that order of the court. They're both still U.S. based companies, so technically that's silly, but possible.
I'm not sure what your point is. It's called Physics, and most of it is only possible because we have gravity.
Even better: Microsoft says it's unlikely that Credit Card details can be lifted from XBox 360s.
Wait, so you also can't start into another shell?