Just make it illegal for any gov body, whose role is protect from foreign interests, to collect or syphon data from a 3rd party, on their own nationals, If they are presently in that nation. From any location in the solar heliosphere. The
Don't understand why these 'Christians' are raising a monument to the ten commandments, placing all that emphasis on those rules. I'm an atheist, but was raised as a strict christian. Now if I'm not mistaken Christ made it very clear, the ten commandments are null and void, as they couldn't be adhered to by the Israelites in the first place, he was the new covenant.
It seems to me they can't even get their own beliefs right.
No! not all, for a fucking crane!. Career thugs, criminals that would conceivably go on to commit murder (if they haven't already) and who knows what else? If they do die, I hope it's painful and agonizing.
At least if that does happen they can be immortalized as the winners of the Darwin awards.
Funny how they are saying specifically pedophiles, this is because they always knew that 'terrorists' fly under their radars on a regular basis by ermmm. Not actually using technology in the first place.
If that indeed is the case, I assume that you'd be spelling British or English English flavours with the correct spellings. None of these idiotic American crap, made up spellings.
Except BT is nothing do to with the US, okay?! BT is British Telecoms.
Not everything is about the USA, lets get that straight. You yanks seriously need to learn that, it comes across as arrogant and ignorant.
Being British myself however I do agree. We should not be dealing with Huawei
Because it's not about safety it's about intent. The Liberator is a gun that's it's intent, a nail gun is a construction tool that is it's intent. What you going to print out a Liberator for the aim of knocking in a few nails??? Or are you going to do print it out to shoot someone.
Once again you are like virtually everyone on this thread, deflecting the argument with pathetic, what/if's.
They wont because one is a "nail gun" the other is obviously a "gun" and intended as a weapon. Yet more deflection from the real argument.
Nail guns are designed NOT to be portable or as weapons. In the UK this was legislated into the manufacture of said nails guns because, criminals / builders / criminal builders / builder criminals were using them to hold up banks. Luckily we are not awash weapons otherwise I guess a AR14 would have done the job.
Geeze, Australia doesn't have this or that amendment to the constitution - Guys we ARE NOT a state of the USA. We have our own laws, and currently (legal) gun ownership is restricted. Frankly I believe that Australia is generally a safer place since the Howard government restricted legal gun ownership. Yes I know I'll be modded down and adversely commented on by those of you in the US who have the "right to bear arms", but frankly I don't give a flying fuck about your rights - I'm only interested in my rights and the safety of me and my family. So yes 3D printed guns should be banned here in oz. And I know that I'l get the storm of "yes but the crims and bikie gangs can get guns". Yes they can, and as far as I'm concerned they can go and shoot each other.
Yup same goes for here too in the UK. Getting sick and tired of libertarian, gun loving, rednecks. Whose right to 'bear arms' has been twisted to their own selfish, self centered aims. The sheer stupidity exhibited by SOME Americans is embarrassing.
As you have pointed out the excuses fly as to why we need even more guns, I've heard it here today
Make metal illegal too..
Fucking pathetic, you know there are other things make of metal apart from guns, you fuckwits. That is what you call deflection from the main argument. The others ones are;
but but zip guns are cheaper to make
.
It's not about the ability of criminals or undesirables to get their hands on guns, it's about the fucked up relationship the USA in general has with guns. We have legal restricted gun ownership here, as a result less deaths caused by guns. FACT, period.
Good guys with guns kill bad guys with guns
This expression and the like, it's like listening to a rather unintelligent 5 year old that's been watching too many crappy movies.
Or this absolute, classic that could only come from someone with brain damage
An armed society is a polite society. An unarmed society is a slaughter house
So yes I'm with you, don't want stupid pieces of plastic that can kill, ARE designed to kill. The sooner this, thick as pig shit, segment of the USA gets that into their stupid fucking heads the better.
P.S If you are going to call me a communist, which I'm not. You might want to consider that the rest of the world has already moved on from that phase. The only nation that still seems to be obsessed this communism is America.
Sorry I don't understand what exactly you are trying to say by "The real value of the Liberator is in places where guns are illegal" There is no value, if it's illegal.
I most certainly did pass my history A-levels thank you very much. So I take it you are ignoring the English Civil War as an example of other places, countries attempting to overthrow tyranny. That by the way led to even more tyranny. The direct ancestry to our present queen says what? Can't see your point. My point still stands.
Ah, I see. You were actually meaning to imply they'd be ashamed of how we conduct ourselves because we don't happen to agree with you?
No, I could not care one bit whether you agree with me or not.
Maybe our system is correct, maybe it's not. Either way, we're not going to pay your opinion about how we should live the slightest tinker's dam of attention. Instead we'll talk with each other, our communities, our neighbors, and we'll fumble our way forward into the future together.
aren't they all, I'm fully aware of that. I'm not judging your system, but the judgement, wisdom of you as a nation, as a whole. To the rest of the word it seems glaringly obvious what needs to happen.Of course that is entirely up to you
If you really think that an unarmed populace can quickly organize to resist an armed oppressor, then you are living in a state of utter delusion.
Sorry there are plenty of examples either way, where this happens. Very recent one's, even ongoing one's. You are just cherry picking
have you ever heard of the POUM Militia....Go read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia
Lol, already have read it. In fact I grew up in Catalonia, I used to play in the civil war defences that still exits by the coast in Vilanova i la Geltrú, next to Sitges, which from memory (read it a long time ago) is mentioned in Orwells diary.
I know and have talked to people wo were personally involved in that tradegy
So why don't you go away and teach your grandmother to suck eggs? I could say something about American arrogance now.
Look, I most certainly do not want to tell you or your countrymen how to live your lives. I am most certainly not anti-american. However I think we find what is happening over there with the gun debate, well crazy. To us it seems obvious. regulate.
I myself am interested in obtaining a FAC (Firearms Arms Certificate), here it's hard and rightly so, I am not anti guns. But what is happening in your country at the moment, the excuses, the obsession. It's bizzare, it's a pity.
What! is that it, is that the best America has to offer. I'm not impressed. What exactly is that supposed to mean?
Politics in America is a joke, you still haven't learnt from any of the lesson we have because you are so fucking arrogant.
So YOU are another shinning example of exactly why there is anti-american sentiment in Europe, no sorry, the rest of the world. Fucking grow up. You don't need guns, get it?
Unlike your ruling classes? Monarchies? barely the one's ironically that seem most enamoured with them are actually Americans, usually from the ruling classes. Fascism I hope not it disgusts me and actually is illegal in many european nations. Because of course you have no fascism in the USA do you.
As for communism,get over it, most of the rest of the world already has, a long time ago. Now socialism, you really need to understand what it is, really for some Americans like you I can't see you actually understand what it is. I've said it before, America is a self centered nation, the rights of the individual seems to be top priority, is sort of goes like: "My right to own lot's and lots of guns, in case 'they' come get me. Fuck everyone else's rights, fuck the kids...blah blah ".
There are some sections of the American populace that actually believe that they are a superior nation. Your not, you are NOT SPECIAL. You are not the instigators of all things good.
Quite frankly we are getting sick and tired of you, you give the sensible one's in your fine nation a bad name. You mire the name of your nation in the mud through your stupidity.
Of course only an American would think that they are unique in overthrowing tyranny. Whilst it is true that America was founded as a direct result of this you ARE NOT unique and special. For example we here in Britain; The English Civil War, wich actually resulted in the execution of our king in an attempt to curtail tyranny. Perhaps you forgot about that one.
We also find some sections of the American populace self centered, selfish. Perhaps reason you have so many troubles is this idea of Libertarianism, essentially the idea of, "my rights first, fuck everybody else's rights". I honestly think your founding fathers is they could see what you have become as a nation would disown you.
This idea that an unarmed populace couldn't fight a tyrannical government is pretty weak to be honest. For every example that you give I can give a counter. For example The Spanish Civil War. Unarmed civilians very quickly organised into armed "militia".
So your populace is having to endure slaughter, innocent kids etc... Because you as a nation seem to have this paranoid belief that the jack boots are going to kick your doors down at "3AM" and arming yourselves to the teeth with little of no regulation ("My rights, me, me, me") is the answer.
It obviously isn't working. Time to evolve and change?
Shunned! Don't be stupid, you do realize that even large multi-nationals rely heavily on Linux. I used to work for Thomson Reuters, 99% of their web apps ran on RedHat, not IIS
Yup I too was raised in a very strict, fundamentalist sect. I was very careful about extricating myself from the religion I was raised in. I knew by the age of 12 what I believed in, in fact I proved it to myself that what I was being taught was not the 'truth'.
I agree with every point you raised, also having a similar set of t-shirts and worn them.
Arguing against faith with scientific reasoning is a futile exercise, because you can't reason. period.
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Just make it illegal for any gov body, whose role is protect from foreign interests, to collect or syphon data from a 3rd party, on their own nationals, If they are presently in that nation. From any location in the solar heliosphere. The
That should apply to any nation. Don't use the NSA equivalents to spy on your own.
Absolutely! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power:_A_New_Social_Analysis He's been pretty much right so far.
What has Mars got to do with anything. Earth, this is about earth and here you stand jabbering on about mars. WTF!
Don't understand why these 'Christians' are raising a monument to the ten commandments, placing all that emphasis on those rules. I'm an atheist, but was raised as a strict christian. Now if I'm not mistaken Christ made it very clear, the ten commandments are null and void, as they couldn't be adhered to by the Israelites in the first place, he was the new covenant. It seems to me they can't even get their own beliefs right.
No! not all, for a fucking crane!. Career thugs, criminals that would conceivably go on to commit murder (if they haven't already) and who knows what else? If they do die, I hope it's painful and agonizing. At least if that does happen they can be immortalized as the winners of the Darwin awards.
Funny how they are saying specifically pedophiles, this is because they always knew that 'terrorists' fly under their radars on a regular basis by ermmm. Not actually using technology in the first place.
Except I don't actually think most are buying this now. 6 months a year ago, yes, now. Not so much.
They'll be getting lovely new uniforms though! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Die_Uniformen_der_Allgemeinen_SS_32-45.jpg
If that indeed is the case, I assume that you'd be spelling British or English English flavours with the correct spellings. None of these idiotic American crap, made up spellings.
Except BT is nothing do to with the US, okay?! BT is British Telecoms. Not everything is about the USA, lets get that straight. You yanks seriously need to learn that, it comes across as arrogant and ignorant. Being British myself however I do agree. We should not be dealing with Huawei
Because it's not about safety it's about intent. The Liberator is a gun that's it's intent, a nail gun is a construction tool that is it's intent. What you going to print out a Liberator for the aim of knocking in a few nails??? Or are you going to do print it out to shoot someone.
Once again you are like virtually everyone on this thread, deflecting the argument with pathetic, what /if's.
Clowns
They wont because one is a "nail gun" the other is obviously a "gun" and intended as a weapon. Yet more deflection from the real argument.
Nail guns are designed NOT to be portable or as weapons. In the UK this was legislated into the manufacture of said nails guns because, criminals / builders / criminal builders / builder criminals were using them to hold up banks. Luckily we are not awash weapons otherwise I guess a AR14 would have done the job.
Geeze, Australia doesn't have this or that amendment to the constitution - Guys we ARE NOT a state of the USA. We have our own laws, and currently (legal) gun ownership is restricted. Frankly I believe that Australia is generally a safer place since the Howard government restricted legal gun ownership. Yes I know I'll be modded down and adversely commented on by those of you in the US who have the "right to bear arms", but frankly I don't give a flying fuck about your rights - I'm only interested in my rights and the safety of me and my family. So yes 3D printed guns should be banned here in oz. And I know that I'l get the storm of "yes but the crims and bikie gangs can get guns". Yes they can, and as far as I'm concerned they can go and shoot each other.
Yup same goes for here too in the UK. Getting sick and tired of libertarian, gun loving, rednecks. Whose right to 'bear arms' has been twisted to their own selfish, self centered aims. The sheer stupidity exhibited by SOME Americans is embarrassing.
As you have pointed out the excuses fly as to why we need even more guns, I've heard it here today
Make metal illegal too..
Fucking pathetic, you know there are other things make of metal apart from guns, you fuckwits. That is what you call deflection from the main argument. The others ones are;
but but zip guns are cheaper to make
.
It's not about the ability of criminals or undesirables to get their hands on guns, it's about the fucked up relationship the USA in general has with guns. We have legal restricted gun ownership here, as a result less deaths caused by guns. FACT, period.
Good guys with guns kill bad guys with guns
This expression and the like, it's like listening to a rather unintelligent 5 year old that's been watching too many crappy movies.
Or this absolute, classic that could only come from someone with brain damage
An armed society is a polite society. An unarmed society is a slaughter house
So yes I'm with you, don't want stupid pieces of plastic that can kill, ARE designed to kill. The sooner this, thick as pig shit, segment of the USA gets that into their stupid fucking heads the better.
P.S If you are going to call me a communist, which I'm not. You might want to consider that the rest of the world has already moved on from that phase. The only nation that still seems to be obsessed this communism is America.
Sorry I don't understand what exactly you are trying to say by "The real value of the Liberator is in places where guns are illegal" There is no value, if it's illegal.
Looks like a report submition can be sent from outside the US. This will be abused massively.
Let's hope the rest of the world will see sense and follow soon.
Regulate. I rest my fucking case.
I most certainly did pass my history A-levels thank you very much. So I take it you are ignoring the English Civil War as an example of other places, countries attempting to overthrow tyranny. That by the way led to even more tyranny. The direct ancestry to our present queen says what? Can't see your point. My point still stands.
Ah, I see. You were actually meaning to imply they'd be ashamed of how we conduct ourselves because we don't happen to agree with you?
No, I could not care one bit whether you agree with me or not.
Maybe our system is correct, maybe it's not. Either way, we're not going to pay your opinion about how we should live the slightest tinker's dam of attention. Instead we'll talk with each other, our communities, our neighbors, and we'll fumble our way forward into the future together.
aren't they all, I'm fully aware of that. I'm not judging your system, but the judgement, wisdom of you as a nation, as a whole. To the rest of the word it seems glaringly obvious what needs to happen.Of course that is entirely up to you
If you really think that an unarmed populace can quickly organize to resist an armed oppressor, then you are living in a state of utter delusion.
Sorry there are plenty of examples either way, where this happens. Very recent one's, even ongoing one's. You are just cherry picking
have you ever heard of the POUM Militia....Go read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia
Lol, already have read it. In fact I grew up in Catalonia, I used to play in the civil war defences that still exits by the coast in Vilanova i la Geltrú, next to Sitges, which from memory (read it a long time ago) is mentioned in Orwells diary.
I know and have talked to people wo were personally involved in that tradegy
So why don't you go away and teach your grandmother to suck eggs? I could say something about American arrogance now.
Look, I most certainly do not want to tell you or your countrymen how to live your lives. I am most certainly not anti-american. However I think we find what is happening over there with the gun debate, well crazy. To us it seems obvious. regulate.
I myself am interested in obtaining a FAC (Firearms Arms Certificate), here it's hard and rightly so, I am not anti guns. But what is happening in your country at the moment, the excuses, the obsession. It's bizzare, it's a pity.
What! is that it, is that the best America has to offer. I'm not impressed. What exactly is that supposed to mean? Politics in America is a joke, you still haven't learnt from any of the lesson we have because you are so fucking arrogant. So YOU are another shinning example of exactly why there is anti-american sentiment in Europe, no sorry, the rest of the world. Fucking grow up. You don't need guns, get it?
Unlike your ruling classes? Monarchies? barely the one's ironically that seem most enamoured with them are actually Americans, usually from the ruling classes. Fascism I hope not it disgusts me and actually is illegal in many european nations. Because of course you have no fascism in the USA do you. As for communism,get over it, most of the rest of the world already has, a long time ago. Now socialism, you really need to understand what it is, really for some Americans like you I can't see you actually understand what it is. I've said it before, America is a self centered nation, the rights of the individual seems to be top priority, is sort of goes like: "My right to own lot's and lots of guns, in case 'they' come get me. Fuck everyone else's rights, fuck the kids...blah blah ". There are some sections of the American populace that actually believe that they are a superior nation. Your not, you are NOT SPECIAL. You are not the instigators of all things good. Quite frankly we are getting sick and tired of you, you give the sensible one's in your fine nation a bad name. You mire the name of your nation in the mud through your stupidity.
Of course only an American would think that they are unique in overthrowing tyranny. Whilst it is true that America was founded as a direct result of this you ARE NOT unique and special. For example we here in Britain; The English Civil War, wich actually resulted in the execution of our king in an attempt to curtail tyranny. Perhaps you forgot about that one. We also find some sections of the American populace self centered, selfish. Perhaps reason you have so many troubles is this idea of Libertarianism, essentially the idea of, "my rights first, fuck everybody else's rights". I honestly think your founding fathers is they could see what you have become as a nation would disown you. This idea that an unarmed populace couldn't fight a tyrannical government is pretty weak to be honest. For every example that you give I can give a counter. For example The Spanish Civil War. Unarmed civilians very quickly organised into armed "militia". So your populace is having to endure slaughter, innocent kids etc... Because you as a nation seem to have this paranoid belief that the jack boots are going to kick your doors down at "3AM" and arming yourselves to the teeth with little of no regulation ("My rights, me, me, me") is the answer. It obviously isn't working. Time to evolve and change?
oops what I meant was Apache on RedHat, not IIS on Windows
Shunned! Don't be stupid, you do realize that even large multi-nationals rely heavily on Linux. I used to work for Thomson Reuters, 99% of their web apps ran on RedHat, not IIS
Yup I too was raised in a very strict, fundamentalist sect. I was very careful about extricating myself from the religion I was raised in. I knew by the age of 12 what I believed in, in fact I proved it to myself that what I was being taught was not the 'truth'. I agree with every point you raised, also having a similar set of t-shirts and worn them. Arguing against faith with scientific reasoning is a futile exercise, because you can't reason. period.