"She's also reported to have voted in the last presidential election in OH. "
Guess she should have voted for Mr. Kerry a few more times and maybe he would have won.
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"Nonsense. They've insulted and driven away half their prospective customer base by denigrating President Bush and insulting conservatives every chance they get. There's nothing wrong with taking sides, but be prepared to pay one way or the other."
Yep! And besides, they stopped making "FESTIVUS" which was the greatest flavor ever.
"Piracy... who here knows someone (besides a company) that pays for all their software? Piracy is accepted by most people as a worthwhile risk. It's much harder to find "warez" for the macs then for pcs. Incidently, I believe this is also a contributing factor as why Windows has the monopoly... both pirating of their OS, and of the apps for it. Kinda funny how MS is trying to fight it now."
I made the switch to a MAC a few months back, and it is the first computer I have ever had where every piece of software on it is legit, purchased and registered. This is not due to difficulty of piracy for a MAC.
If I really want to, the software is there for the taking. It has more due with the fact that I think of my TITANIUM G4 PowerBook as a better machine. I paid a premium for it, and I think of it as a cut above my PCs. Putting pirated warez on this machine would be like putting cheap gas in a Porche or BMW. I am more likely to put cheap gas and aftermarket parts on/in a civic or Neon, just as I was more likely to look for pirated stuff on my PCs.
I also like the MAC software enough to pay for it. In a word, IT JUST WORKS! I would pay for the microsoft counterparts too, if Bill Gates didn't believe that the world should be his BETA tester.
"Well it does actually. When I need to get home and I know I've had more than I'm supposed to, I'm going to be DAMNED sure I drive slowly and normally to keep the police from suspecting me, even dropping under 30 because I know if I do crash I'm done for. I think unless you get to the point where you're falling over and puking drunk, that extra care, is going to help not hinder."
Actually there are already companies who have integrated voice command into automobiles. Everyone keeps talking about a trigger word, but at least up to now that is not how the problem has been dealt with.
Honda/Accura for example, has voice command for the radio controls, climate controls and navigation system. There is not a special word or phrase to get it started, there is a button on the steering wheel. You tap that button and for about 10 seconds the system "listens" for vocal commands.
As a recent convert to MAC, it saddens me to see the company stomping the life out of a couple of kids. They didn't cost Apple anything at all. I would have loved to have a BETA copy of tiger to play with myself. As the canuk stated, it would have been because of my impatience, and desire to play with some new features (before everyone else makes it sweeter yet) and I would still have bought the real deal once available. I don't have any unregistered or illegal files at all on my Mac.
Apple should think twice about feeding on it's own! Had I read this 3 months ago, I would have thought twice about switching over from a PC. Experimentation is half the fun of computers, and if you are going to pursue and punish curiosity so severely then maybe you aren't a company I wish to do business with.
Apple, you may be the BEST at what you do, but you are by no means the only choice out there. I lived a lot of years with a PC and found it more than adequate, and it would not be a huge problem to return to that. I have been singing your praises from the rooftops, but if you prove to be a heartless company, destroying a couple of kids when you really have nothing to gain by doing so, then that will cease quick fast and in a hurry!
Well, how do you figure the time when you are using a TV Tuner card in the computer to watch TV on said computer while simultaniously surfing or e-mailing or IMing at the same time? Does that count as computer time, TV time, both or neither?
While I understand that you choose your peripherals based on your hardware, and not the other way around, in my case there was more that played into the decision than mere hardware. In May of this year I purchased my first Apple product ever... a brand new silver iPod MINI. I liked the size and relatively large capacity. I found it to be very intuitive and extremely convenient. Then the unthinkable happened... The little touch scroll wheel stopped functioning. This was less than a month after I had received the item. This also happened to be on a Saturday, so there was no one to call to get this resolved.
I logged into the Apple site and proceeded to fill out the little trouble ticket online. I received an email within 5 minutes, telling me to expect an empty box to ship the unit back in, within 5 business days, and that a new unit would be sent my way within a week of them receiving my broken one.
Monday morning, 8am, DHL shows up at my door with a box. I opened it planning to box my defective unit, and much to my surprise was a brand new unit still sealed. I was without an iPod for less than 48 hours, and reported the problem on a weekend. They never asked for a credit card to secure shipping the new unit first, or anything else. They just shipped it out, and minimized my inconvenience. At that point I decided to take a serious look at the Apple computers.
I am now the proud owner of a G4 Powerbook running Panther. It is the most intuitive and best designed computer I have ever owned! Judging from what I have seen around, it will probably have 2X the useable life that my last ThinkPad had. I have seen on many of the message boards, people with an Apple machine 3 generations old still able to run the newest OSs and software. Maybe slower, but it works! Try running XP on a 3 year old lap top and see how far you get!
For me it was the exceptional customer service that tipped the scales enough for me to take a serious look at the Mac. I can assure you that it would take a lot for me to consider switching back. My MAC experience has been all positive, and I couldn't be happier. Coincidentally, I have also recently acquired a second iPod, a 20 GIG this time, which I use largely as a back up drive. I would think that the type of experience I had would make a loyal customer out of just about anyone. I certainly cannot think of another customer service experience with any company of any type, which has been this positive for me.
I buy a lot of audiobooks for my iPod which take signifigantly more space than say a typical song, plus my own CD Collection, plus a particular radio program I enjoy which is downloadable daily to take with me on my iPod, which is roughly 60 megs a day. Also, I use both of my iPods (mini to work out and 20 gig for everything else) as backup for certain files from my TiBook. They are more than just a music machine. If I had wanted merely music I would have gone with something cheaper and that supported OGG.
it makes perfect sense if you listen to the ENTIRE Bin Laden tape from last friday... Bin Laden actually tries to strike a deal, state by state, that he will not blow up stuff in states that go for Kerry. Kinda says it all.
There has NEVER been any evidence to that fact other than a few fringe dems claiming that it happened. The only people that were not allowed or "disenfranchised" were convicted felons. And by the way, in Florida, more of them happend to be white than all other races combined. Check it out bub, it's the law. Convicted felons are not allowed to vote. That is not disenfranchisement.
By the way hot shot, Florida was not as close as originally thought. There has been plenty of PROOF (that nasty stuff the dems seldom have to back up their rediculous claims and charges) that over 60000 voters in heavily democrat areas, had already voted in their home states. Florida has a very transitional population due to retireds that only come for the winter. That makes them ineligeble to vote in Florida as that is a duplicate vote. But you dems know all about that don't you? Especially those of you in in Chicago. Vote early vote often!
Did you bother to check the price?!? $495 U$ for the 256Meg pair. I can buy 2 iPod minis with 4 gigs each or a 40 Gig with money left over. Or a lot of other great players out there. I could even opt for a 20 Gig player, get a decent looking pair of Revos and walk away with money left over. They will probably sell a few, but I sure would not want to walk into work with something that looks like that! I would never hear the end of it.
>Someone breaks into your house. He is armed, you are not. You lose some valuables.
Someone breaks into your house. You are armed, he is armed. You lose nothing, he loses his life.
Now tell me which is the greater evil.
The greater evil is in being naieve enough that you think they will just take your stuff, and let you be in peace. Make it more realistic...
Some coked up armed criminal breaks into your house. Your wife gets raped, you get shot or stabbed, and your tow year old gets to witness it all when he wanders in because the ruckus woke him up.
Oh, I almost forgot... AND YOU LOOSE YOUR STUFF.
STUFF is replaceable. My family is not. You want my stuff that badly, then by all means take it. It is easy to get more. You threaten my family, then the gloves come off, and we throw down.
If they want stuff, they can easily watch to see when no one is home and come in to get the stuff. If they come when someone is home, they are either looking for more than stuff, high on something and not in a very stable state of mind, stupid or desperate. I do not want to meet a criminal in any of these conditions unable to DEFEND MY FAMILY.
>So, again, what good is an unloaded, locked up gun when it comes to home defense? Well, it's virtually useless for home defense. But it's pretty good for pistol whipping NRA members.
I know this is offtopic, and flaimbait, but I have to tell you BrasilBrush, You are a Douche.
The flaw with what you say is that you are assuming that if the citizenry looses the right to bear arms, that the criminals will abide by the same rules. They are criminals, and by diefintion will not respect the law, whatever it is. Therefore by passing restrictive gun laws, you are just restricting the right of Joe Citizen to defend himself and his family. Look at the places in the country with the highest homicide rates and the highest rates of rape and other violent crimes, and it is the same parts of the country with the most restrictive and prohibitive gun laws.
"Oh he *implies* stuff... by speaking the truth. I see. He makes a bunch of true statements and leaves the viewer to draw conclusions based on... true evidence. What a tricky guy!"
Are you really that thick? I'll give you specifics of his implications... dating back. He is a very talented guy, who is even more talented at splicing tape.
I think back to the hatched job Moore did on Charlton Heston, wherein Moore spliced together parts of 3, count em 3 speeches putting up to 7 splices in a single supposed sentance. If your "FACTS" require assembling parts of 3 to 7 sentances to come up with one "FACT" then maybe its time to rethink your facts.
I also thought the below was worth a gander:
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/fahrenheit911/sau di flyaway.htm
"In a long and paranoid (and tedious) section at the opening of the film" liberal columnist Christopher Hitchens says Moore "makes heavy innuendoes about the flights that took members of the Bin Laden family out of the country after Sept. 11". As Hitchens notes in a recent article, he too had a problem with this, but changed his position when the facts came out. So why didn't Moore? From Hitchens:
I banged on about this myself at the time and wrote a Nation column drawing attention to the groveling Larry King interview with the insufferable Prince Bandar, which Moore excerpts. However, recent developments have not been kind to our Mike. In the interval between Moore's triumph at Cannes and the release of the film in the United States, the 9/11 commission has found nothing to complain of in the timing or arrangement of the flights.
Moore interviews former White House terrorism czar Richard Clarke, who, as Newsmax noted, served as a principal source for Fahrenheit 9/11. However, Clarke has gone on record saying that the central premise of Moore's film is "a mistake." From Newsmax:
In an interview with the Associated Press, Clarke took issue with Moore's criticism that President Bush allowed prominent Saudis, including members of Osama bin Laden's family, to fly out of the U.S. in the days after the 9/11 attacks.
Saying Moore's version of the episode has provoked "a tempest in a tea pot," Clarke called his decision to make the bin Laden family flyout a big part of the film's indictment against Bush "a mistake."
Note the word "HIS". Not president Bush's decision...Richard Clarke's (a published Bush critic) decision. Once again, Moore's own source proves him wrong.
"After 9/11, I think the Saudis were perfectly justified... in fearing the possibility of vigilantism against Saudis in this country. When they asked to evacuate their citizens... I thought it was a perfectly normal request," he explained.
In May, Clarke confessed that he, and he alone made the decision to approve the flyouts.
A desperate Moore-fan has to really scramble over this one yet again to find some excuse for Moore to somehow not be lying here. But Clarke leave no room for honest mistake here.
"It didn't get any higher than me," he told The Hill newspaper. "On 9/11, 9/12 and 9/13, many things didn't get any higher than me. I decided it in consultation with the FBI."
STILL want to give Moore a free pass for missing Clarke's confession in May and still brush this off as an honest mistake that Moore spends a large chunk of time on in his movie? Not a smart move if you want to keep from looking foolish.
Clarke told the 9/11 Commission the same thing in March, after first detailing the episode for Vanity Fair magazine last August - leaving plenty of time for Moore to adjust his film to the facts as recounted by his primary source.
And back to Hitches:
This might not matter so much to the ethos of Fahrenheit 9/11, except that--as you might expect--Clarke is presented throughout as the brow-furrowed ethical hero of the entire post-9/11 moment. And it does not seem very likely that, in his open admission about the Bin La
"Having worked in a $7 an hour sales job, I know what I would do if I suspected someone shoplifting - absolutely nothing. $7 an hour is not enough to risk a potentially dangerous confrontation. The main reason for sensors is to make people think they'll get caught shoplifting and to make management feel like they are doing something to prevent theft (maybe the store's insurance requires them). I'm sure they don't even begin to deter the serious professional thief."
Not only do I agree completely with this statement, but I will go you one further... I, as many, have done my time in the minimum wage gulag, and EVERY SINGLE place I ever worked retail had the policy that even if you did observe someone stealing that you were not to try and detain or stop them in any way, just try to get a good description to give police etc... I asked one of the big cheese corperate security dudes about it one time during one of those scintilating loss prevention seminars, and was told that the potential loss of a little bit of stock absolutely pales in comparison to the possible liability the company would face if either the employee or the thief sustained any kind of injury. Makes sense. It is like a lock on your door... any competent thief can get past your locks. They aren't their to keep out the pros, just to keep the honest people honest.
I don't know what fantasy you live in, but the last time I checked, a 9mm semi-automatic pistol is outgunned when faced with fully automatic and assault type weapons loaded with armor piercing ammunition. These weapons are COMMON among the criminal element.
Just because you say that the police are not outgunned, and that their equipment is the best dosen't make it so. You are obviously mis-informed. If you would like a specific example, I have one for you, and it is better than your 'believe it because I say so' statements. Think back 3 years ago to a bank robbery in California when 2 gunmen were able to hold off over 40 LAPD officers for almost an hour due to superior firepower and body-armour.
Here is the difference between you and I; We are supposed to take YOUR WORD for the fact that they are not outgunned. I, however, have given SOLID and REAL evidence that they are. Your stating that they are not outgunned is anecdotal at best, and a complete fabrication of your imagination at worst.
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"She's also reported to have voted in the last presidential election in OH. "
Guess she should have voted for Mr. Kerry a few more times and maybe he would have won.
"Nonsense. They've insulted and driven away half their prospective customer base by denigrating President Bush and insulting conservatives every chance they get. There's nothing wrong with taking sides, but be prepared to pay one way or the other."
Yep! And besides, they stopped making "FESTIVUS" which was the greatest flavor ever.
"Piracy... who here knows someone (besides a company) that pays for all their software? Piracy is accepted by most people as a worthwhile risk. It's much harder to find "warez" for the macs then for pcs. Incidently, I believe this is also a contributing factor as why Windows has the monopoly... both pirating of their OS, and of the apps for it. Kinda funny how MS is trying to fight it now."
I made the switch to a MAC a few months back, and it is the first computer I have ever had where every piece of software on it is legit, purchased and registered. This is not due to difficulty of piracy for a MAC.
If I really want to, the software is there for the taking. It has more due with the fact that I think of my TITANIUM G4 PowerBook as a better machine. I paid a premium for it, and I think of it as a cut above my PCs. Putting pirated warez on this machine would be like putting cheap gas in a Porche or BMW. I am more likely to put cheap gas and aftermarket parts on/in a civic or Neon, just as I was more likely to look for pirated stuff on my PCs.
I also like the MAC software enough to pay for it. In a word, IT JUST WORKS! I would pay for the microsoft counterparts too, if Bill Gates didn't believe that the world should be his BETA tester.
"Well it does actually. When I need to get home and I know I've had more than I'm supposed to, I'm going to be DAMNED sure I drive slowly and normally to keep the police from suspecting me, even dropping under 30 because I know if I do crash I'm done for. I think unless you get to the point where you're falling over and puking drunk, that extra care, is going to help not hinder."
Please tell me that you aren't serious...
Actually there are already companies who have integrated voice command into automobiles. Everyone keeps talking about a trigger word, but at least up to now that is not how the problem has been dealt with.
Honda/Accura for example, has voice command for the radio controls, climate controls and navigation system. There is not a special word or phrase to get it started, there is a button on the steering wheel. You tap that button and for about 10 seconds the system "listens" for vocal commands.
As a recent convert to MAC, it saddens me to see the company stomping the life out of a couple of kids. They didn't cost Apple anything at all. I would have loved to have a BETA copy of tiger to play with myself. As the canuk stated, it would have been because of my impatience, and desire to play with some new features (before everyone else makes it sweeter yet) and I would still have bought the real deal once available. I don't have any unregistered or illegal files at all on my Mac.
Apple should think twice about feeding on it's own! Had I read this 3 months ago, I would have thought twice about switching over from a PC. Experimentation is half the fun of computers, and if you are going to pursue and punish curiosity so severely then maybe you aren't a company I wish to do business with.
Apple, you may be the BEST at what you do, but you are by no means the only choice out there. I lived a lot of years with a PC and found it more than adequate, and it would not be a huge problem to return to that. I have been singing your praises from the rooftops, but if you prove to be a heartless company, destroying a couple of kids when you really have nothing to gain by doing so, then that will cease quick fast and in a hurry!
Well,
how do you figure the time when you are using a TV Tuner card in the computer to watch TV on said computer while simultaniously surfing or e-mailing or IMing at the same time? Does that count as computer time, TV time, both or neither?
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King of the douchebags!!
As with linux, I don't believe that it would effect me either as I run OSX. I feel for my MS using bretheren out there.
Yet another reason to jump ship on Mr. Gates!
While I understand that you choose your peripherals based on your hardware, and not the other way around, in my case there was more that played into the decision than mere hardware. In May of this year I purchased my first Apple product ever... a brand new silver iPod MINI. I liked the size and relatively large capacity. I found it to be very intuitive and extremely convenient. Then the unthinkable happened... The little touch scroll wheel stopped functioning. This was less than a month after I had received the item. This also happened to be on a Saturday, so there was no one to call to get this resolved.
I logged into the Apple site and proceeded to fill out the little trouble ticket online. I received an email within 5 minutes, telling me to expect an empty box to ship the unit back in, within 5 business days, and that a new unit would be sent my way within a week of them receiving my broken one.
Monday morning, 8am, DHL shows up at my door with a box. I opened it planning to box my defective unit, and much to my surprise was a brand new unit still sealed. I was without an iPod for less than 48 hours, and reported the problem on a weekend. They never asked for a credit card to secure shipping the new unit first, or anything else. They just shipped it out, and minimized my inconvenience. At that point I decided to take a serious look at the Apple computers.
I am now the proud owner of a G4 Powerbook running Panther. It is the most intuitive and best designed computer I have ever owned! Judging from what I have seen around, it will probably have 2X the useable life that my last ThinkPad had. I have seen on many of the message boards, people with an Apple machine 3 generations old still able to run the newest OSs and software. Maybe slower, but it works! Try running XP on a 3 year old lap top and see how far you get!
For me it was the exceptional customer service that tipped the scales enough for me to take a serious look at the Mac. I can assure you that it would take a lot for me to consider switching back. My MAC experience has been all positive, and I couldn't be happier. Coincidentally, I have also recently acquired a second iPod, a 20 GIG this time, which I use largely as a back up drive. I would think that the type of experience I had would make a loyal customer out of just about anyone. I certainly cannot think of another customer service experience with any company of any type, which has been this positive for me.
I buy a lot of audiobooks for my iPod which take signifigantly more space than say a typical song, plus my own CD Collection, plus a particular radio program I enjoy which is downloadable daily to take with me on my iPod, which is roughly 60 megs a day. Also, I use both of my iPods (mini to work out and 20 gig for everything else) as backup for certain files from my TiBook. They are more than just a music machine. If I had wanted merely music I would have gone with something cheaper and that supported OGG.
it makes perfect sense if you listen to the ENTIRE Bin Laden tape from last friday... Bin Laden actually tries to strike a deal, state by state, that he will not blow up stuff in states that go for Kerry. Kinda says it all.
Gee, that was a brilliant rebuttal! typical of a dem.
There has NEVER been any evidence to that fact other than a few fringe dems claiming that it happened. The only people that were not allowed or "disenfranchised" were convicted felons. And by the way, in Florida, more of them happend to be white than all other races combined. Check it out bub, it's the law. Convicted felons are not allowed to vote. That is not disenfranchisement.
By the way hot shot, Florida was not as close as originally thought. There has been plenty of PROOF (that nasty stuff the dems seldom have to back up their rediculous claims and charges) that over 60000 voters in heavily democrat areas, had already voted in their home states. Florida has a very transitional population due to retireds that only come for the winter. That makes them ineligeble to vote in Florida as that is a duplicate vote. But you dems know all about that don't you? Especially those of you in in Chicago. Vote early vote often!
Did you bother to check the price?!? $495 U$ for the 256Meg pair. I can buy 2 iPod minis with 4 gigs each or a 40 Gig with money left over. Or a lot of other great players out there. I could even opt for a 20 Gig player, get a decent looking pair of Revos and walk away with money left over. They will probably sell a few, but I sure would not want to walk into work with something that looks like that! I would never hear the end of it.
I thought it was a dang hilarious joke!!
>Someone breaks into your house. He is armed, you are not. You lose some valuables.
Someone breaks into your house. You are armed, he is armed. You lose nothing, he loses his life.
Now tell me which is the greater evil.
The greater evil is in being naieve enough that you think they will just take your stuff, and let you be in peace. Make it more realistic...
Some coked up armed criminal breaks into your house. Your wife gets raped, you get shot or stabbed, and your tow year old gets to witness it all when he wanders in because the ruckus woke him up.
Oh, I almost forgot... AND YOU LOOSE YOUR STUFF.
STUFF is replaceable. My family is not. You want my stuff that badly, then by all means take it. It is easy to get more. You threaten my family, then the gloves come off, and we throw down.
If they want stuff, they can easily watch to see when no one is home and come in to get the stuff. If they come when someone is home, they are either looking for more than stuff, high on something and not in a very stable state of mind, stupid or desperate. I do not want to meet a criminal in any of these conditions unable to DEFEND MY FAMILY.
>American's are so funny. They haven't a clue how fucked up they are.
Well BB, I guess once a douche, always a douche... You just seem to get more douschey with time...
>So, again, what good is an unloaded, locked up gun when it comes to home defense? Well, it's virtually useless for home defense. But it's pretty good for pistol whipping NRA members.
I know this is offtopic, and flaimbait, but I have to tell you BrasilBrush, You are a Douche.
The flaw with what you say is that you are assuming that if the citizenry looses the right to bear arms, that the criminals will abide by the same rules. They are criminals, and by diefintion will not respect the law, whatever it is. Therefore by passing restrictive gun laws, you are just restricting the right of Joe Citizen to defend himself and his family. Look at the places in the country with the highest homicide rates and the highest rates of rape and other violent crimes, and it is the same parts of the country with the most restrictive and prohibitive gun laws.
"Oh he *implies* stuff... by speaking the truth. I see. He makes a bunch of true statements and leaves the viewer to draw conclusions based on... true evidence. What a tricky guy!"
... in fearing the possibility of vigilantism against Saudis in this country. When they asked to evacuate their citizens ... I thought it was a perfectly normal request," he explained.
Are you really that thick? I'll give you specifics of his implications... dating back. He is a very talented guy, who is even more talented at splicing tape.
I think back to the hatched job Moore did on Charlton Heston, wherein Moore spliced together parts of 3, count em 3 speeches putting up to 7 splices in a single supposed sentance. If your "FACTS" require assembling parts of 3 to 7 sentances to come up with one "FACT" then maybe its time to rethink your facts.
I also thought the below was worth a gander:
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/fahrenheit911/sau di flyaway.htm
"In a long and paranoid (and tedious) section at the opening of the film" liberal columnist Christopher Hitchens says Moore "makes heavy innuendoes about the flights that took members of the Bin Laden family out of the country after Sept. 11". As Hitchens notes in a recent article, he too had a problem with this, but changed his position when the facts came out. So why didn't Moore? From Hitchens:
I banged on about this myself at the time and wrote a Nation column drawing attention to the groveling Larry King interview with the insufferable Prince Bandar, which Moore excerpts. However, recent developments have not been kind to our Mike. In the interval between Moore's triumph at Cannes and the release of the film in the United States, the 9/11 commission has found nothing to complain of in the timing or arrangement of the flights.
Moore interviews former White House terrorism czar Richard Clarke, who, as Newsmax noted, served as a principal source for Fahrenheit 9/11. However, Clarke has gone on record saying that the central premise of Moore's film is "a mistake." From Newsmax:
In an interview with the Associated Press, Clarke took issue with Moore's criticism that President Bush allowed prominent Saudis, including members of Osama bin Laden's family, to fly out of the U.S. in the days after the 9/11 attacks.
Saying Moore's version of the episode has provoked "a tempest in a tea pot," Clarke called his decision to make the bin Laden family flyout a big part of the film's indictment against Bush "a mistake."
Note the word "HIS". Not president Bush's decision...Richard Clarke's (a published Bush critic) decision. Once again, Moore's own source proves him wrong.
"After 9/11, I think the Saudis were perfectly justified
In May, Clarke confessed that he, and he alone made the decision to approve the flyouts.
A desperate Moore-fan has to really scramble over this one yet again to find some excuse for Moore to somehow not be lying here. But Clarke leave no room for honest mistake here.
"It didn't get any higher than me," he told The Hill newspaper. "On 9/11, 9/12 and 9/13, many things didn't get any higher than me. I decided it in consultation with the FBI."
STILL want to give Moore a free pass for missing Clarke's confession in May and still brush this off as an honest mistake that Moore spends a large chunk of time on in his movie? Not a smart move if you want to keep from looking foolish.
Clarke told the 9/11 Commission the same thing in March, after first detailing the episode for Vanity Fair magazine last August - leaving plenty of time for Moore to adjust his film to the facts as recounted by his primary source.
And back to Hitches:
This might not matter so much to the ethos of Fahrenheit 9/11, except that--as you might expect--Clarke is presented throughout as the brow-furrowed ethical hero of the entire post-9/11 moment. And it does not seem very likely that, in his open admission about the Bin La
"Having worked in a $7 an hour sales job, I know what I would do if I suspected someone shoplifting - absolutely nothing. $7 an hour is not enough to risk a potentially dangerous confrontation. The main reason for sensors is to make people think they'll get caught shoplifting and to make management feel like they are doing something to prevent theft (maybe the store's insurance requires them). I'm sure they don't even begin to deter the serious professional thief."
Not only do I agree completely with this statement, but I will go you one further... I, as many, have done my time in the minimum wage gulag, and EVERY SINGLE place I ever worked retail had the policy that even if you did observe someone stealing that you were not to try and detain or stop them in any way, just try to get a good description to give police etc... I asked one of the big cheese corperate security dudes about it one time during one of those scintilating loss prevention seminars, and was told that the potential loss of a little bit of stock absolutely pales in comparison to the possible liability the company would face if either the employee or the thief sustained any kind of injury. Makes sense. It is like a lock on your door... any competent thief can get past your locks. They aren't their to keep out the pros, just to keep the honest people honest.
Here's a reply on your level:
You big dummy!!!
So you would rather fight them on US soil then?!?
Wow! You must be smarter than I am...
Take a look at Russia this weekend... You would prefer that?
They aren't going away!
I don't know what fantasy you live in, but the last time I checked, a 9mm semi-automatic pistol is outgunned when faced with fully automatic and assault type weapons loaded with armor piercing ammunition. These weapons are COMMON among the criminal element.
Just because you say that the police are not outgunned, and that their equipment is the best dosen't make it so. You are obviously mis-informed. If you would like a specific example, I have one for you, and it is better than your 'believe it because I say so' statements. Think back 3 years ago to a bank robbery in California when 2 gunmen were able to hold off over 40 LAPD officers for almost an hour due to superior firepower and body-armour.
Here is the difference between you and I;
We are supposed to take YOUR WORD for the fact that they are not outgunned. I, however, have given SOLID and REAL evidence that they are. Your stating that they are not outgunned is anecdotal at best, and a complete fabrication of your imagination at worst.