By the way that wasn't a slam on 7 year olds. It was a complament... Got a problem NOBODY can solve.. unless you've got a hotline to god.. ask a 7 year old.
But you just echoed what I said while trying to make it sound like it's the other way around I appologise... If you are a moderator, it is understandable how the misconceptions persist. I'm not THE moderator.. one idiot in the croud won't any harm... anywho having THAT in my sig is stupid on retrospect.. Changing it now...
Q Bert was so much like having an LSD trip I didn't need to have one myself. Complete with the seeing snakes. I mean a video game that swares... I was sure someone spiked my coffee. After the disorenting experence of the odd movements and enemys with a totally diffrent center of gravity I couldn't walk. I could sware all those kids jumping around the arcade were Q Berts when I finally turned away from the game.
Good thing Pacman didn't have that kind of effect on me or I'd be totally overweight.
Just a few notes in defending the relentless attack of Microsoft by/. users. The often stated reasons for using Windows NT include: "It's user friendly so I can do it myself" This is the attatude Microsoft themselfs are responsable for creating. In fighting this preception you have an uphill battle not just against/. but every Microsoft trained MCSE cert and Microsoft itself. It's not just the software it's the whole attatude. Not just/. but the Microsoft side of things as well. For example just try to get a commertal game for Linux? I can... but I'm deep into it. Try and find a sereous text on Windows security... Ok you have. Now what are the odds I'd find exactly the same? Book store: Programming includes everything. Game code:Windows. Security: Unix. Thies are the books people buy. It's not a matter of can it be done but how much support is behind you when you do it. If your using Linux you have the world and god behind you. With Windows it's just god and a smart 7 year old.
Spam for lagit products is rare. Take the printer toner spam. Lagit right? He's clamming to be an atherised retailer of new cartrages. Unlikely. Atherised retaillers carry a full line of products. He's more likely selling referbished cartrages. Recycled cartrages when done badly can damage your equipment. The loans all look to good to be true. Need I say more? Scams everywhere.
Lagit products and services need a steady stream of custummers. Spam only provides custummers for the short term and kills off long term prospects. Scams don't have long term commitments. They need only produce a one time income. That's how spam works. Sacraficing long term success for short term proffit.
Do I get a discount for my Internet access via my pda? It can't play MP3s let alone download them. All those cell phone users will be pissed as well. But hay everyone uses Windows and downloads MP3s over the Internet we all know that.
Cars with onboard computers controlling them. Linux based ummm no insanity.. Commodores.. Gee I'm supprised the car didn't reject the computer. and possably others...
It happends a lot that somebody will try to build a computer into something normally not computer controlled using off the shelf computers.
AT&T 3B2 used on Coke machines for example. However the resulting systems work.
It's not so much a matter of outside develupment or even Microsoft as much as it is just that you want consistant behavure when your doing something like this. Geos 64 flakes occasionally so it should produce similare results. Early Macs had problems that would preclude them.
An open source bad would be the Gecko with OS/65.. It wasn't made for production use and could flake occasionally.
Just use the right os for the job. Microsoft would have you make the job fit Windows. Linux would have you make Linux fit the job. Between the two I think Linux makes more sense but there will always be a better answer.
Forth programming language was often used as a stand alone system on 6502 hardware. Many late 1970's early 1980's computers based on the 6502 used basic for the operating system.
Commodore Pet/CBM,Vic20,64,128,B series Apple II series Atari XL 8 bits Cray 6502 pocket supper computer for mad scientists (Top secret) Oh wait you can't know about that one..
Ummm Oh yeah and the latest one RIAA's recomended specs thow instead of a 6502 they use a Z8.
Security experts see themselfs as providing a service to individuals and not to the entire internet. Preventing unatherised access is the holy grail of security. But individual users do not see it that way. They don't see the harm in a cracker fixing a security fault.
Look at it like this: Kids break into your home throw dogy doo everywhere and trash the place. Then a nabor enters though what was your front door cleans up the mess and gives you a new steal door with your same old lock (the lock the bad guys didn't pick when they kicked the flimsy door to splinters). The cops arrive then you.
They are tecnicly tresspassing and interfearing in a crime seen. Do you care? I'm the vindictive type.. I'd be pissed.
Sounds like a nieve executive thinks anything vagely pretending to be Unix compatable is using SCOs IP and that they can sue for it. Or figure Linux is an easy target for frivilous clames. But the memo didn't result in anything. Rummors rummors and more rummors. I think before SCO mounts a lawsute the'll need to find the IP volations for sitation in cort. If there is real IP code in Linux then it must be patched out ASAP. Ferther there may be an issue of an IP trojen. If SCO/Caldera dropped SCO IP into Linux then what happends is: SCO in adding the code to GPLed code released the rights. No ferther code from SCO will be trusted. This may already be the case. SCO will face the wrath seen during the Linux one IPO.
In the past copyrights expired. Software would eventually be discontinued this left the users on obsolete hardware in a bad position and if not for expired copyrights they'd have no software at all. Today copyrights are eternal. This makes it a tricky job to discover what is or isn't 'safe'. Abandonware is any software no longer sold or distributed. It's offically nonexsistant to the company who owns the rights. Atari VCS abandonware is safe as Atari junked all it's archives etc so they have nothing to form the basis of an ownership clame. But not everyone has and should a software maker want some quick cash they need only go after visable abandonware sites.
On a side note you realise that Windows (r) 286 would be public domain by now is copyrights expired? As would the first releaces of GCC. What we need is a law stating that if software is abandoned for a set piriod of time it's public domain. Other nations may already have it that way hence this move by Nintendo.
Oh my god with IBMs Linux wrist watch (useless but cool hack) and The Palm Os watch just on the market (simi useful hack) Microsoft yet again has to 'inovate' by copying everyone else. This folowing up on Microsofts Pen tops (Tablet PCs) a direct rip from the failed technology of years past. Yet they haven't fixed eather of the problems that killed the originals (poor handwriting recognition and expensive) but at least this time they suck less than the original failures than suck more. The watchs folow this acutally finding features that you can get on cheaper watches and adding a few more.
Byond the 007ish novalty of it I doupt there will be much intrest. Timex made a watch that stored data it was neat but it needed Windows to work and eventually the novalty wore off. Just to expensive.
Even if thies new watches work with a wider range of systems it's still junk. Else every Linux freak would build there own watch. Redhat for watches. etc.
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We all did not laugh at AoL. We laughed at the users. AoL was around for a good time before it incarneted on the wired.
AoL is an access point for people who fear learning. Not all AoL users were dumb and not all dumb users used AoL it's the shear volume of stupidity. The first ISP I ever signed up to made sure I was up to speed. The system admin called me to politely inform me my account was being terminated for responding to a massively crossposted trool. Opps. My first mistake. They let me back on after a week and a new sign up fee. AoL is designed for the newbie and thats good but that also means not punishing newbie mistakes and thats bad. A lot of users got the idea that thet weren't doing anything wrong. I'm sure that system admin that called me got yelled at a lot but the user base was generally better off. When it got sold the new staff left me cold so I don't use them anymore. The lesson here is simple. Newbies are good thing. Not dropping bad users is a bad thing.
Commertal develupers try and guess what people want while open source develupers do what they know they want. The old rule of marketting is if one person complains 1,000 are silent. Open source is sort of like that. Only implementing features wanted by vocal users. Comertal develupment is about making every feature a user might want available. This seams like a good idea on the face of it. But this can lead to features that aren't very useful. Scripts in Microsoft Word documents? This is helpful? Maybe but only in implementing the features Word needs. Most features make me say "What inspired THAT?" In the past commertal software confined itself to the features the develuper needed. Much like open source dose today. I could see the reason behind each neat hack. But todays commertal software just leaves me cold. To many features not enough of them worth anything. Sure I'll copy the good ideas and scrap the bad ones then I have a smaller faster and for my needs better application.
Yes I have heard this repeatedly. Then there are ex-employees who clame otherwise. I think you'll find this is the case for any company of sufficant size.
It means Microsoft is in touch with it's employees. Great well I guess they gotta be in touch with something seeing as how they are out of touch with everything else.
All I can think of is "If we only had this for the 'hide the DeCSS' contests. Stick it inside some cold germs and roaches. But alass my hopes are shattered as I read the comments. Not quite the data life I'd hoped for.
Develup product ask Microsoft for help. Do it once the wrong way. Do it again the right way in secret. Microsoft gets the insecure back doored doomed to crash and burn version.
Then when they steal it they'll have to sue me to take it back.
Ohh atomic reactor yeah right under the magnetic media. Not for the REAL vershion we use batterys.
Why dosen't anybody predict the death of Murphys l
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Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. vs Number of components in chip dubble each year Eq The number of defects dubbles each year.. errr 18 months. Is it still 18? Murphys hangling for 6? I see..
Maybe not you but it's pritty good advertising to just be published. Oh hell yeah I'd write a book (science fantacy) if I thought it'd be published. I'd forfit proffit even. Just get the name out. I take that back. I would never get rich writing fiction... assuming I could get published..
Nobody will sue for free advertising and no cort would support a business who sued for getting to much traffic. But mirroring a site is a copyright volation and most judges will see it that way.
Now make Apatchi handle IE connections accordingly and operate normally otherwise thus granting a universal improvement vs the IE only improvement. Also add this to mosaic or ISS connections only. If this works so well why not draft a http2? Then as Microsoft fails to implement it the rest of us can have this support.
Obligitory MS slam via reality check: I can see if other web browsers pulled this stunt web masters would just block them to avoid a DOS type glut of expired connections.
Unless we start telling the diffrence between man made disasters and natral selection we will put evolution on hold in the name of protecting the environment.
On the other hand with street gangs and food poisoning I not only believe we are evolving I think we are on an evolutionary fast track.
It's sick that I can counter myself. So here we go. Yes I can benifit from somebody using my code in a commertal product. Let's say I'm a gammer and I make a game that has a huge number of sweet graphic and sound hacks. But maybe the game sucks. Then Jack makes a great game out of my code now I get a great game with sweet hacks. Even if I'm paying for if had I not done the work I'd never have such effects. I benifit. Now let's say I run Linux and the commertal gamed using my hacks won't run on my box even under wine. Now I can't benifit unless I get the code and port it to Linux myself. Or I'm a commertal software develuper now I won't get paod becouse anybody can use my hard work for free.
Maybe I'll get extra traffic to my website. Maybe I don't need it. Maybe I'll get recognised as a great programmer. Maybe I'm already recognised. Maybe I'm in a diffrent profession and don't need the recognition. Maybe my code sucks.
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By the way that wasn't a slam on 7 year olds.
It was a complament...
Got a problem NOBODY can solve.. unless you've got a hotline to god.. ask a 7 year old.
But you just echoed what I said while trying to make it sound like it's the other way around
I appologise...
If you are a moderator, it is understandable how the misconceptions persist.
I'm not THE moderator.. one idiot in the croud won't any harm... anywho having THAT in my sig is stupid on retrospect.. Changing it now...
Q Bert was so much like having an LSD trip I didn't need to have one myself.
Complete with the seeing snakes.
I mean a video game that swares... I was sure someone spiked my coffee. After the disorenting experence of the odd movements and enemys with a totally diffrent center of gravity I couldn't walk.
I could sware all those kids jumping around the arcade were Q Berts when I finally turned away from the game.
Good thing Pacman didn't have that kind of effect on me or I'd be totally overweight.
Just a few notes in defending the relentless attack of Microsoft by /. users. /. but every Microsoft trained MCSE cert and Microsoft itself. /. but the Microsoft side of things as well.
The often stated reasons for using Windows NT include:
"It's user friendly so I can do it myself"
This is the attatude Microsoft themselfs are responsable for creating.
In fighting this preception you have an uphill battle not just against
It's not just the software it's the whole attatude. Not just
For example just try to get a commertal game for Linux?
I can... but I'm deep into it. Try and find a sereous text on Windows security... Ok you have. Now what are the odds I'd find exactly the same?
Book store: Programming includes everything.
Game code:Windows.
Security: Unix.
Thies are the books people buy.
It's not a matter of can it be done but how much support is behind you when you do it.
If your using Linux you have the world and god behind you.
With Windows it's just god and a smart 7 year old.
Dude... Wireless is fairly evil.. I'll go for the most honnest one.. :)
EvDO.. gotta be a compression of Evil DO
Spam for lagit products is rare.
Take the printer toner spam. Lagit right? He's clamming to be an atherised retailer of new cartrages.
Unlikely. Atherised retaillers carry a full line of products.
He's more likely selling referbished cartrages. Recycled cartrages when done badly can damage your equipment.
The loans all look to good to be true.
Need I say more?
Scams everywhere.
Lagit products and services need a steady stream of custummers. Spam only provides custummers for the short term and kills off long term prospects.
Scams don't have long term commitments. They need only produce a one time income.
That's how spam works. Sacraficing long term success for short term proffit.
Do I get a discount for my Internet access via my pda? It can't play MP3s let alone download them.
All those cell phone users will be pissed as well.
But hay everyone uses Windows and downloads MP3s over the Internet we all know that.
Cars with onboard computers controlling them.
Linux based ummm no insanity..
Commodores.. Gee I'm supprised the car didn't reject the computer.
and possably others...
It happends a lot that somebody will try to build a computer into something normally not computer controlled using off the shelf computers.
AT&T 3B2 used on Coke machines for example.
However the resulting systems work.
It's not so much a matter of outside develupment or even Microsoft as much as it is just that you want consistant behavure when your doing something like this.
Geos 64 flakes occasionally so it should produce similare results. Early Macs had problems that would preclude them.
An open source bad would be the Gecko with OS/65.. It wasn't made for production use and could flake occasionally.
Just use the right os for the job.
Microsoft would have you make the job fit Windows. Linux would have you make Linux fit the job. Between the two I think Linux makes more sense but there will always be a better answer.
Forth programming language was often used as a stand alone system on 6502 hardware.
Many late 1970's early 1980's computers based on the 6502 used basic for the operating system.
Commodore Pet/CBM,Vic20,64,128,B series
Apple II series
Atari XL 8 bits
Cray 6502 pocket supper computer for mad scientists (Top secret) Oh wait you can't know about that one..
Ummm Oh yeah and the latest one RIAA's recomended specs thow instead of a 6502 they use a Z8.
Security experts see themselfs as providing a service to individuals and not to the entire internet.
Preventing unatherised access is the holy grail of security.
But individual users do not see it that way. They don't see the harm in a cracker fixing a security fault.
Look at it like this:
Kids break into your home throw dogy doo everywhere and trash the place. Then a nabor enters though what was your front door cleans up the mess and gives you a new steal door with your same old lock (the lock the bad guys didn't pick when they kicked the flimsy door to splinters).
The cops arrive then you.
They are tecnicly tresspassing and interfearing in a crime seen. Do you care?
I'm the vindictive type.. I'd be pissed.
Sounds like a nieve executive thinks anything vagely pretending to be Unix compatable is using SCOs IP and that they can sue for it.
Or figure Linux is an easy target for frivilous clames.
But the memo didn't result in anything.
Rummors rummors and more rummors.
I think before SCO mounts a lawsute the'll need to find the IP volations for sitation in cort.
If there is real IP code in Linux then it must be patched out ASAP.
Ferther there may be an issue of an IP trojen. If SCO/Caldera dropped SCO IP into Linux then what happends is:
SCO in adding the code to GPLed code released the rights.
No ferther code from SCO will be trusted. This may already be the case.
SCO will face the wrath seen during the Linux one IPO.
In the past copyrights expired. Software would eventually be discontinued this left the users on obsolete hardware in a bad position and if not for expired copyrights they'd have no software at all.
Today copyrights are eternal. This makes it a tricky job to discover what is or isn't 'safe'.
Abandonware is any software no longer sold or distributed. It's offically nonexsistant to the company who owns the rights.
Atari VCS abandonware is safe as Atari junked all it's archives etc so they have nothing to form the basis of an ownership clame.
But not everyone has and should a software maker want some quick cash they need only go after visable abandonware sites.
On a side note you realise that Windows (r) 286 would be public domain by now is copyrights expired?
As would the first releaces of GCC.
What we need is a law stating that if software is abandoned for a set piriod of time it's public domain. Other nations may already have it that way hence this move by Nintendo.
Oh my god with IBMs Linux wrist watch (useless but cool hack) and The Palm Os watch just on the market (simi useful hack) Microsoft yet again has to 'inovate' by copying everyone else.
This folowing up on Microsofts Pen tops (Tablet PCs) a direct rip from the failed technology of years past.
Yet they haven't fixed eather of the problems that killed the originals (poor handwriting recognition and expensive) but at least this time they suck less than the original failures than suck more.
The watchs folow this acutally finding features that you can get on cheaper watches and adding a few more.
Byond the 007ish novalty of it I doupt there will be much intrest.
Timex made a watch that stored data it was neat but it needed Windows to work and eventually the novalty wore off.
Just to expensive.
Even if thies new watches work with a wider range of systems it's still junk.
Else every Linux freak would build there own watch. Redhat for watches. etc.
We all did not laugh at AoL. We laughed at the users.
AoL was around for a good time before it incarneted on the wired.
AoL is an access point for people who fear learning. Not all AoL users were dumb and not all dumb users used AoL it's the shear volume of stupidity.
The first ISP I ever signed up to made sure I was up to speed. The system admin called me to politely inform me my account was being terminated for responding to a massively crossposted trool.
Opps. My first mistake. They let me back on after a week and a new sign up fee.
AoL is designed for the newbie and thats good but that also means not punishing newbie mistakes and thats bad. A lot of users got the idea that thet weren't doing anything wrong.
I'm sure that system admin that called me got yelled at a lot but the user base was generally better off.
When it got sold the new staff left me cold so I don't use them anymore.
The lesson here is simple. Newbies are good thing. Not dropping bad users is a bad thing.
Commertal develupers try and guess what people want while open source develupers do what they know they want.
The old rule of marketting is if one person complains 1,000 are silent. Open source is sort of like that. Only implementing features wanted by vocal users.
Comertal develupment is about making every feature a user might want available.
This seams like a good idea on the face of it. But this can lead to features that aren't very useful. Scripts in Microsoft Word documents? This is helpful? Maybe but only in implementing the features Word needs.
Most features make me say "What inspired THAT?"
In the past commertal software confined itself to the features the develuper needed. Much like open source dose today. I could see the reason behind each neat hack.
But todays commertal software just leaves me cold. To many features not enough of them worth anything. Sure I'll copy the good ideas and scrap the bad ones then I have a smaller faster and for my needs better application.
Yes I have heard this repeatedly.
Then there are ex-employees who clame otherwise.
I think you'll find this is the case for any company of sufficant size.
It means Microsoft is in touch with it's employees. Great well I guess they gotta be in touch with something seeing as how they are out of touch with everything else.
So will he now be able to host all the dvd decss plug in's for all the Linux dvd players?
All I can think of is "If we only had this for the 'hide the DeCSS' contests.
Stick it inside some cold germs and roaches.
But alass my hopes are shattered as I read the comments.
Not quite the data life I'd hoped for.
Develup product ask Microsoft for help.
Do it once the wrong way. Do it again the right way in secret.
Microsoft gets the insecure back doored doomed to crash and burn version.
Then when they steal it they'll have to sue me to take it back.
Ohh atomic reactor yeah right under the magnetic media.
Not for the REAL vershion we use batterys.
Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
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Number of components in chip dubble each year
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The number of defects dubbles each year.. errr 18 months. Is it still 18? Murphys hangling for 6? I see..
Maybe not you but it's pritty good advertising to just be published.
Oh hell yeah I'd write a book (science fantacy) if I thought it'd be published. I'd forfit proffit even. Just get the name out.
I take that back. I would never get rich writing fiction...
assuming I could get published..
Nobody will sue for free advertising and no cort would support a business who sued for getting to much traffic.
But mirroring a site is a copyright volation and most judges will see it that way.
Now make Apatchi handle IE connections accordingly and operate normally otherwise thus granting a universal improvement vs the IE only improvement.
Also add this to mosaic or ISS connections only.
If this works so well why not draft a http2? Then as Microsoft fails to implement it the rest of us can have this support.
Obligitory MS slam via reality check:
I can see if other web browsers pulled this stunt web masters would just block them to avoid a DOS type glut of expired connections.
Unless we start telling the diffrence between man made disasters and natral selection we will put evolution on hold in the name of protecting the environment.
On the other hand with street gangs and food poisoning I not only believe we are evolving I think we are on an evolutionary fast track.
It's sick that I can counter myself.
So here we go.
Yes I can benifit from somebody using my code in a commertal product.
Let's say I'm a gammer and I make a game that has a huge number of sweet graphic and sound hacks. But maybe the game sucks.
Then Jack makes a great game out of my code now I get a great game with sweet hacks. Even if I'm paying for if had I not done the work I'd never have such effects.
I benifit. Now let's say I run Linux and the commertal gamed using my hacks won't run on my box even under wine. Now I can't benifit unless I get the code and port it to Linux myself.
Or I'm a commertal software develuper now I won't get paod becouse anybody can use my hard work for free.
Maybe I'll get extra traffic to my website. Maybe I don't need it.
Maybe I'll get recognised as a great programmer. Maybe I'm already recognised. Maybe I'm in a diffrent profession and don't need the recognition. Maybe my code sucks.
It's up to me. It's my code after all.