If you want to read of a REAL fighting ship lost in the same location to the Japanese (at around the same time) I'd advise reading about HMAS Perth. There's a decent write up here.
The fighting was so ferocious the Japanese mistook a 6" Light Cruiser (the Perth) for a Battleship.
I ask because aside from the internet I'm suprised there isn't an industry in the smaller, poorer nations of the world in offering the judge 20% of whatever they get and imagining all manner of creative rulings against wealthy americans.
a) the PERSON (not a thing) you're defaming has to be identified by you in order to be defamed.
b) it's a problem for dow jones because they have a presence in Australia. If you don't have any presence in Greater Bumfukia there's no civil come-back to you.
If on the other hand you DO have a presence there then perhaps you should be mindful of the laws of that land without hiding behind a web-hosting on geo-cities.
...in all except the most unusual of cases, identifying the person about whom material is to be published will readily identify the defamation law to which that person may resort," the court said in its majority judgment.
which makes it, not so bad when you think about it, until all the worlds powerful take up residency in Singapore (which has truly horrific defamation laws).
Try more like "any country outside the originating justidiction"
It's a reasonable judgment.
Gutnick's (who, in my opinion, is a bit of a weasel [note under australian defamation laws a clearly marked statement of opinion is not libellous]) reputation was damaged primarily in the place he lives and works.
Dow Jones could choose to ignore the verdict of the Supreme Court of Victoria (the state Joe Gutnick calls home) but they have interests in Australia that are probably worth more than the damages against them.
Try and imagine if the Sydney Morning Herald spectacularly defamed a major american tycoon (ok, and if the laws in the US were more defamation friendly) I think you'd see this differently.
This is going to bring about big problems, but they are things that do have to be resolved and we can't close our eyes to it anymore.
they're on identical hardware (just happenned that way)
on the woody box I've got an intricate setup of windows to display the data I need, (eximon, gkrellm, tailled feeds from a number of logs)
that box has been up for 113 days. (possibly since it got uplifted to woody)
programs stay open and my arrangement of windows gets steadily more intricate to display everything I want, the point is the load time of a program is utterly irrelevant to me.
if i had to reproduce it I'd be looking at maybe 10 minutes work.
my windows box on the other hand I reboot daily.
I don't do anything intricate, just maximise the lot.
loadtime is an issue.
having said that I HATE quick-starting things in windows eating up my precious RAM (i've got half a gig in this thing)
so thats my side-by-side comparison of usage isues.
Actually Wellington once observed that the French infantry columns broke from the rear, that is it wasn't the guys at the front taking the damage who ran away, it was the guys getting nervous at the back who couldn't take it, and as they ran more guys would take the hint and bail.
it sounds like the AI were arriving at a similar conclusion.
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Canberra Fire brigade is equipped to handle 6 house fire simultaneously.
It was pretty amzing to see all those naval helicopters waterbombing though.
amazing what you can get when the Chief of Naval Staff's house is in the fire path.
i imagine we could rip the sun desktop out but they still service the machine.
its on solaris 8.2
what are you running?
they SCUTTLED???
If you want to read of a REAL fighting ship lost in the same location to the Japanese (at around the same time) I'd advise reading about HMAS Perth. There's a decent write up here.
The fighting was so ferocious the Japanese mistook a 6" Light Cruiser (the Perth) for a Battleship.
well perl is used by plenty of apps to run.
hell you probably can't get a debian system to run without it.
mysql has similar (albeit less frequent application uses)
an FTP daemon isn't so different from having file sharing available is it?
I prefer the debian base-system apporach myself, all of what you need, none of what you don't, but easy to get more on as you need it.
that could be why all the new (gentoo aside) distro's are deb-based.
(and have Perl)
um?
hello?
I've never hit 6 but I've frequently had stuff cooking in 3 or 4 terminals (+ X)
the real estate of the full screen in bash is nice to have for real jobs.
We got a Sun box in a while ago and nearly choked when we realised it forced us to do everything through X.
but more importantly, the terminals are there if you need them, and if you never want to hit Alt-F2 then don't
that way we all win eh?
I ask because aside from the internet I'm suprised there isn't an industry in the smaller, poorer nations of the world in offering the judge 20% of whatever they get and imagining all manner of creative rulings against wealthy americans.
have you got a precedent on that?
a) the PERSON (not a thing) you're defaming has to be identified by you in order to be defamed.
b) it's a problem for dow jones because they have a presence in Australia. If you don't have any presence in Greater Bumfukia there's no civil come-back to you.
If on the other hand you DO have a presence there then perhaps you should be mindful of the laws of that land without hiding behind a web-hosting on geo-cities.
They CAN be, but international publishing is a mucky, mucky game.
for all it's many faults the current government has been pretty dedicated in trying to increase the parrallel importation of media (cd's books etc)
they aren't all there yet.
spend a week in australia,
watch it again (you'll hate it).
the simpsons is never as funny when it tries to leave america.
"The press are a forum for opinion"
thats not broadly speaking true.
it's a forum for information, some of which is opinion.
opinion can be a defence in australian defamation proceedings, but must be clearly identified as such.
For a scholarly, but readable roundup of Australian Defamation Law and the Internet I'd recommend:
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http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/defamation.ht
in particular in the "defences available":
IANAL, but as someone with my own slashlike in Australia I have sought and recieved advice on the subject.
The jurisdiction is the Australian Capital Territory FYI.
which makes it, not so bad when you think about it, until all the worlds powerful take up residency in Singapore (which has truly horrific defamation laws).
Try more like "any country outside the originating justidiction"
It's a reasonable judgment.
Gutnick's (who, in my opinion, is a bit of a weasel [note under australian defamation laws a clearly marked statement of opinion is not libellous]) reputation was damaged primarily in the place he lives and works.
Dow Jones could choose to ignore the verdict of the Supreme Court of Victoria (the state Joe Gutnick calls home) but they have interests in Australia that are probably worth more than the damages against them.
Try and imagine if the Sydney Morning Herald spectacularly defamed a major american tycoon (ok, and if the laws in the US were more defamation friendly) I think you'd see this differently.
This is going to bring about big problems, but they are things that do have to be resolved and we can't close our eyes to it anymore.
It can be used as precendent where the laws are comparable.
especially the common law which is still heavily in use in the English speaking world.
if you don't think a phoenix release is big news you haven't used it.
in our non-techy office its a source of wonder and blessing (we're a news service that spends a lot of time accessing web-sources).
for once, something is getting BETTER.
here in windows land that doesn't happen so often. (yes XP is better but it's so darn annoying)
and of course EVERY phoenix is the last one...
Ok, i have two workstations on my desk.
One is debian/woody, the other is win98.
they're on identical hardware (just happenned that way)
on the woody box I've got an intricate setup of windows to display the data I need, (eximon, gkrellm, tailled feeds from a number of logs)
that box has been up for 113 days. (possibly since it got uplifted to woody)
programs stay open and my arrangement of windows gets steadily more intricate to display everything I want, the point is the load time of a program is utterly irrelevant to me.
if i had to reproduce it I'd be looking at maybe 10 minutes work.
my windows box on the other hand I reboot daily.
I don't do anything intricate, just maximise the lot.
loadtime is an issue.
having said that I HATE quick-starting things in windows eating up my precious RAM (i've got half a gig in this thing)
so thats my side-by-side comparison of usage isues.
I find with the mozilla/phoenix project that if ONE person files a report it usually gets fixed.
Thats certainly been the experience in our office.
we've filed maybe 4 little niggles and every single one was fixed in the next release (normally within a week or two).
I thought the phoenix was persian in it's origin.
(the whole fire-worship zoroastrian thing)
the romans might have brought it into our cultural tradition from there.
sophistication
- cause to become less natural, especially to make less naive and more worldly.
sophistry
- Plausible but fallacious argumentation.
Stallman is scary because he's right AND because we don't want to hear what he has to say.
Prophets are always scary.
In a less gentle age he'd have been killed long ago.
Yeah, but why don't the DROIDS remember any of it eh???
Actually Wellington once observed that the French infantry columns broke from the rear, that is it wasn't the guys at the front taking the damage who ran away, it was the guys getting nervous at the back who couldn't take it, and as they ran more guys would take the hint and bail.
it sounds like the AI were arriving at a similar conclusion.