I don't really understand. So what if someone creates a one-shot OpenID server? How has this harmed you more than if you'd just allowed the person to create a username and password? Why would you trust them to type in their street address but not to supply a secure OpenID server?
So someone says their FOAF file is available at http://spammer.example.com/0000001. So what? The alternative is they say their username is GNAA_TROLL_0000001. Put up a captcha in either case if you don't want bullshit accounts.
What priviledged access were you planning on giving to Slashdot users but not johndoeblog users? That doesn't make any sense.
Anyway. As the dude says, this is not a trust system. It's just for identity.
I worked on the Pacific Options Exchange for three months. I worked for a market maker. I know what a fucking market maker is. Yes, there are lots of things that market makers can do that other people cannot do. However, they are still shareholders. When a company is sued for failing to maximize shareholder value, market makers that hold shares can participate in the suit.
Dunno what you mean "they won't get hurt on the same level as a regular shareholder". If they buy stock and it goes down in price (because the CEO is pumping and dumping or for any other reason) and they sell it for a lower value, then they lose the same money as any other shareholder.
In other words, YES, they are only share holders in the context of holding shares. So they are shareholders. Jesus Christ.
It seems to me that the there is really only room for one DVD rental-by-mail service.
Dunno why you say that. Yes, it is "one of those commodity items that becomes cheaper to run on a per-customer basis the more customers you have" but it is also a service that can vary in quality. You might prefer Netflix because it is cheaper or has a better website, while someone else may prefer ChristianFlix because it provides them with censored movies. Someone else might prefer IndieFlix because the website is better suited to their tastes.
Yes, the company with the biggest scale may be the cheapest, but I don't see why there isn't room for niche players. Greencine is profitable and not dying, and it's *tiny* compared to Netflix. If Greencine can make money doing what they do, I bet if other companies find their niche, they'll survive too.
You could get some of the benefits of such a system by hosting your own OpenID server.
It sounds like the features of OpenID are bound up in the features of FOAF, so I think the alternative you are describing is more of a tradeoff than a plain improvement.
Maybe OpenID could be designed so that ID providers are not necessary if you handle your own key pair, but it wouldn't be all as simple as you put it.
That doesn't make any sense at all. The point of OpenID is that you can say "I'm Brad Fitz from Livejournal" and it would check with Livejournal. Isn't that exactly authentication?
Sure, you could lie about being Brad Fitz by saying "I'm Brad Fitz from Deadjournal" but then... those are two separate identities.
There are like a billion such Meccas. If by "outside the mainstream" you mean "creative", then yeah maybe. If you mean outside of the creative mainstream, then no, not necessarily.
That's just as bullshit as the company refusing to honor your previous sale. The slip of paper with the serial number was lost in the course of doing business. Eat it.
He thinks idiot fanbois are going to make Lunix look bad, and that's going to kill it? That's a good point: Consider the Playstation's penetration into the enterprise market.
Talking about the death of Linux guarantees that he's full of shit. Linux will be imortalized in routers and handhelds and webhosts until the end of time. No matter what John C. Dvorak thinks of the comments here on Slashdot.
What would the death of "Linux and the open-source movement" even look like? What would the Amiga lunatic community look like right now if their holy OS had always been available as source code? IMHO, a lot like it looked in it's fucking heyday (not that that's a good thing), even if they were abandoned by the platform provider. Kill Lunix how??
Yeah, but that assumes you've got your browser running. windows-run http://slashdot.org/ and ctrl-alt-g http://slashdot.org/ mean you don't have to wait for much of anything.
If one wanted a bsd/posix compliant environment, I think Apple would have been far better off starting from PPC/xBSD or Linux kernels, rather than trying to rope and rebuild mach to fit into something it was never originally designed for.
You should have brought that up with NeXT, not Apple, and done so before they hired Avie Tevanian. Tevanian was NeXT and then Apple's chief software technology officer, and he's one of the coauthors of the original Mach paper. Back when NeXTStep was being created, I'm not sure Linux or BSD were obvious good choices.
Given that Apple just bought NeXTStep and worked from there, the decision was already made. If you consider the reasons that they went with NeXTStep rather than BeOS, BSD, or Linux, it's pretty clear that they made the right decision no matter what kind of kernel they wound up with.
If you'd like to rephrase your suggestion and say that they should shoehorn in a different kind of kernel underneath their existing operating system, then I can't imagine how you'd justify the expense.
The "anonymous submitter" must have written this story as a troll. He incorporated a well known FSF debate, a well known OS debate & a well known factual error in the first two sentences. The "Which design is better? I report, you decide." bit is clearly trying to get the "Hello Gentlemen" tone.
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And even during his rant:
They do the very, very minimum required by LGPL.
And you know what? That's their right. They made a conscious decision about not working with KDE developers. All I'm asking for is that all the clueless people stop talking about the cooperation between Safari/Konqueror developers and how great it is.
So really, the only people they were ever particularly annoyed with were us. Here on Slashdot.
Their patent is for a mouse with an ipod-like circular scroll wheel on top. You would spin your finger in circles on top of your mouse. This is rather clear from their text description. I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass. Are you?
Assigning him a research project doesn't prove you right. If the patent application specifies a domain (computer mouse) then it only applies to that domain. Please, view the image attached to the patent and explain how they'd argue in a court of law that the patent applies to the iPod clickwheel. Find a patent about the clickwheel yourself.
Clearly the guy's original point was that just because Apple patents something doesn't mean it's a good idea or that they're going to use the patent, as they've never shipped computers with scroll mice.
Just read Snow Crash. There's no reason to think that these guys are going to be the ones to build the Metaverse, given how many people have been trying since the book came out (1996?), but yeah. That's the idea.
unless they store user data securly on a central server, cheating is gonna be BAD.
No, cheating is going to be redefined. While they're a billion miles from Metaverse-like, Neal Stephenson already worked this out pretty well. While you're walking along the street, the computers that run the street place limits on the appearance of your avatar. The sunbeams shooting out of your hairdo do not extend across everything else on the street.
When you get into a fight on one server (in a bar, for example:), they can track your stats. If several servers agree that they trust each other, then they could share stats. Everyone knows there's no cheating in the Black Sun.
If you're worried that the <Lord Pants; Level 60> floating above your head won't mean anything because anyone will be able to do that... then yeah, you're exactly right. Some servers will follow conventions and some won't and that's fine. Hang out in the areas where you like the rules.
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I don't really understand. So what if someone creates a one-shot OpenID server? How has this harmed you more than if you'd just allowed the person to create a username and password? Why would you trust them to type in their street address but not to supply a secure OpenID server?
So someone says their FOAF file is available at http://spammer.example.com/0000001. So what? The alternative is they say their username is GNAA_TROLL_0000001. Put up a captcha in either case if you don't want bullshit accounts.
What priviledged access were you planning on giving to Slashdot users but not johndoeblog users? That doesn't make any sense.
Anyway. As the dude says, this is not a trust system. It's just for identity.
I worked on the Pacific Options Exchange for three months. I worked for a market maker. I know what a fucking market maker is. Yes, there are lots of things that market makers can do that other people cannot do. However, they are still shareholders. When a company is sued for failing to maximize shareholder value, market makers that hold shares can participate in the suit.
Dunno what you mean "they won't get hurt on the same level as a regular shareholder". If they buy stock and it goes down in price (because the CEO is pumping and dumping or for any other reason) and they sell it for a lower value, then they lose the same money as any other shareholder.
In other words, YES, they are only share holders in the context of holding shares. So they are shareholders. Jesus Christ.
It seems to me that the there is really only room for one DVD rental-by-mail service.
Dunno why you say that. Yes, it is "one of those commodity items that becomes cheaper to run on a per-customer basis the more customers you have" but it is also a service that can vary in quality. You might prefer Netflix because it is cheaper or has a better website, while someone else may prefer ChristianFlix because it provides them with censored movies. Someone else might prefer IndieFlix because the website is better suited to their tastes.
Yes, the company with the biggest scale may be the cheapest, but I don't see why there isn't room for niche players. Greencine is profitable and not dying, and it's *tiny* compared to Netflix. If Greencine can make money doing what they do, I bet if other companies find their niche, they'll survive too.
Right. And you do that with Slashdot, just like you have in the past.
This, distributed authentication, lets other sites agree that you are Nicholas Harmon from Slashdot.
What have I missed?
You could get some of the benefits of such a system by hosting your own OpenID server.
It sounds like the features of OpenID are bound up in the features of FOAF, so I think the alternative you are describing is more of a tradeoff than a plain improvement.
Maybe OpenID could be designed so that ID providers are not necessary if you handle your own key pair, but it wouldn't be all as simple as you put it.
That doesn't make any sense at all. The point of OpenID is that you can say "I'm Brad Fitz from Livejournal" and it would check with Livejournal. Isn't that exactly authentication?
Sure, you could lie about being Brad Fitz by saying "I'm Brad Fitz from Deadjournal" but then... those are two separate identities.
Those market makers are thus shareholders, you moron.
There are like a billion such Meccas. If by "outside the mainstream" you mean "creative", then yeah maybe. If you mean outside of the creative mainstream, then no, not necessarily.
That's just as bullshit as the company refusing to honor your previous sale. The slip of paper with the serial number was lost in the course of doing business. Eat it.
I've always wondered how much of John C. Dvorak's notoriety is due to sharing a name with the keyboard guy.
I was about to say "respect" rather than "notoriety" but Firefox's logic checker extension fixed it.
If I ever get into acting (and/or the porn industry), I'm changing my last name to Travolta.
He thinks idiot fanbois are going to make Lunix look bad, and that's going to kill it? That's a good point: Consider the Playstation's penetration into the enterprise market.
Talking about the death of Linux guarantees that he's full of shit. Linux will be imortalized in routers and handhelds and webhosts until the end of time. No matter what John C. Dvorak thinks of the comments here on Slashdot.
What would the death of "Linux and the open-source movement" even look like? What would the Amiga lunatic community look like right now if their holy OS had always been available as source code? IMHO, a lot like it looked in it's fucking heyday (not that that's a good thing), even if they were abandoned by the platform provider. Kill Lunix how??
Yeah, but that assumes you've got your browser running. windows-run http://slashdot.org/ and ctrl-alt-g http://slashdot.org/ mean you don't have to wait for much of anything.
If one wanted a bsd/posix compliant environment, I think Apple would have been far better off starting from PPC/xBSD or Linux kernels, rather than trying to rope and rebuild mach to fit into something it was never originally designed for.
You should have brought that up with NeXT, not Apple, and done so before they hired Avie Tevanian. Tevanian was NeXT and then Apple's chief software technology officer, and he's one of the coauthors of the original Mach paper. Back when NeXTStep was being created, I'm not sure Linux or BSD were obvious good choices.
Given that Apple just bought NeXTStep and worked from there, the decision was already made. If you consider the reasons that they went with NeXTStep rather than BeOS, BSD, or Linux, it's pretty clear that they made the right decision no matter what kind of kernel they wound up with.
If you'd like to rephrase your suggestion and say that they should shoehorn in a different kind of kernel underneath their existing operating system, then I can't imagine how you'd justify the expense.
I bet a few of us can type http://slashdot.org/ faster than we realize what we are typing.
The "anonymous submitter" must have written this story as a troll. He incorporated a well known FSF debate, a well known OS debate & a well known factual error in the first two sentences. The "Which design is better? I report, you decide." bit is clearly trying to get the "Hello Gentlemen" tone.
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Did you read my post?
Yeah, I do. Ok.
Ok.
Their patent is for a mouse with an ipod-like circular scroll wheel on top. You would spin your finger in circles on top of your mouse. This is rather clear from their text description. I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass. Are you?
Assigning him a research project doesn't prove you right. If the patent application specifies a domain (computer mouse) then it only applies to that domain. Please, view the image attached to the patent and explain how they'd argue in a court of law that the patent applies to the iPod clickwheel. Find a patent about the clickwheel yourself.
Clearly the guy's original point was that just because Apple patents something doesn't mean it's a good idea or that they're going to use the patent, as they've never shipped computers with scroll mice.
Dumbass.
Just read Snow Crash. There's no reason to think that these guys are going to be the ones to build the Metaverse, given how many people have been trying since the book came out (1996?), but yeah. That's the idea.
When you get into a fight on one server (in a bar, for example
If you're worried that the <Lord Pants; Level 60> floating above your head won't mean anything because anyone will be able to do that... then yeah, you're exactly right. Some servers will follow conventions and some won't and that's fine. Hang out in the areas where you like the rules.
Dunno what you think I've failed to understand.
Well. I guess I've failed to understand what you think I've failed to understand. Aside from that, I think I'm on top of things.