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Dissidents Seeking Anonymous Web Solutions?

DocMurphy asks: "I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes. Many have in-home Internet access, but think it too risky to participate in pro-freedom activities on home PCs. Internet cafés are also available, but although fairly anonymous, every machine may be infected with keystroke loggers that give governments access to and knowledge of 'banned' sites. Dissidents not only want to remain anonymous themselves, but also wish to not compromise the sites they access. Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime run Internet access?"

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  1. Anything public is NOT safe... by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Internet cafés are also available, but although fairly anonymous, every machine may be infected with keystroke loggers that give governments access to and knowledge of 'banned' sites.

    I would think that Internet Café "spies" would be more useful than keyloggers to the authorities looking for dissidents. Unless these connections are somehow routed through multiple anonymous/encrypted proxies and hopping through open WAPs I really don't believe that a public terminal is in any way "safe".

    A stalker that I had earlier this year was easily located via tracking his IP and figuring out which coffee shops and libraries he was using. The libraries all went through a single county-wide proxy and narrowing his location down on a Sunday was easier than you could possibly imagine (all satellite locations in the county were closed except one).

    If I could track someone down that easily imagine what the members of a Gestapo looking to do more than end some harassing emails could do, especially when they might have a network of spies watching public access locations in person.

    1. Re:Anything public is NOT safe... by blake213 · · Score: 5, Funny
      You know, that shirt you're wearing right now is kinda tacky.

      wait. whoops.

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    2. Re:Anything public is NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, kakhi t-shirt and jeans. Real tacky. Idiot.

    3. Re:Anything public is NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only idiot I see here is you. Get a sense of humor asshole and make the world a better place. Either that or die, same net result.

    4. Re:Anything public is NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      INMARSAT or Thuraya

    5. Re:Anything public is NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't by chance happen to live in the U.S. do you?

      I'm a paranoid sob, and the only thing I do is chat about U.F.O.'s. How harmless is that!

      "Smith...you keep an eye on the tinfoil hat crowd!"

      "Aye Sir!"

      Silly paranoia n'est pas? Yet I still worry.

      Probably need a shrink.

      "Even paranoiacs have true enemies..."HST

    6. Re:Anything public is NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why am I not surprised that garcia has a stalker. Pissed off one too many people on slashdot, huh?

  2. Don't Tell Him! by taskforce · · Score: 0, Troll

    With a name like Murphy he's clearly working for the IRA!

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    1. Re:Don't Tell Him! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [seinfeld]
      He could be with the Aryan Union
      [/seinfeld]

  3. No. Nothing 100% by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    No, Think about it this way. The Internet is made by humans, using human reasoning it has a method of communicating with your computer and an other computer at a different location. So if they really want to see where you came from they will follow your traffic. It might take time, money and legislation but it can be done, if they truly want to track you down. It is a question of are you worth the effort. The only good method is to take citizenship in a location which it is legal to say your point of view, if it is considered illegal around the world then you may have an other issue. While Free Speech is a human right it is by no means safe, to defend. And free speech is wrong when it is used to hurt people, or in danger other people. Such as Yelling fire in a crowded area, when there is no fire, because the riot could kill or injure people.

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    1. Re:No. Nothing 100% by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      So if they really want to see where you came from they will follow your traffic

      Um... unless a step (or steps) along the way are engineered specifically to route in a way that doesn't provide for that, and leave no logs of any kind. Yes, someone could watch all traffic going into and out of all paths surrounding such an anonymizer.

      But that's not a free speech issue, and of course, criminals can use it, too, engaging in activities that are definately not protected by free speech principles.

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    2. Re:No. Nothing 100% by shmlco · · Score: 1
      The only way an open communications system can be secure is by using a codebook. A message such as, "Time to meet your grandmother," can mean anything from "Blow the bridge!" to "Meet me at the safehouse tonight."

      Of course, while the communication itself is secure, distributing and protecting the codebook itself has it's own set of problems...

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    3. Re:No. Nothing 100% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, 11:00 behind the treehouse it is. I'll bring the vodka, you bring Natalie Portman!

  4. Lemme guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes.
    Democrats?
    1. Re:Lemme guess... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was going to say "Texans".

    2. Re:Lemme guess... by utexaspunk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Texas Democrats? Exiled in New Mexico? :)

    3. Re:Lemme guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No,

      Log Cabin Republicans

    4. Re:Lemme guess... by spoonyfork · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Texas Democrats ... are Republicans anywhere else.

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    5. Re:Lemme guess... by photon317 · · Score: 1


      People with defensible political positions don't need to be anonymous in such a trivial matter. The Dems in the referenced matter acted like whiny bitches, and did waste our time and money. I understand that the Republicans were twisting the re-districting to their advantage, but they were doing it within the letter of the law, which is all you can ask for these days. To walk out of the state and refuse to even participate in congress was pathetic and childish, but typical.

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    6. Re:Lemme guess... by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      Hey- I'm a Texas Democrat, and I resent that. I'm as much of a Democrat as one from Boston, New York, Seattle, or San Francisco.

    7. Re:Lemme guess... by oliana · · Score: 1

      Well, actually, they were not dissing the democrats in as much as they were messing with Texas.

      You do not mess with Texas. It says so.

      I am proud of my Texas Democrats who recognized that the Republicans were attempting to break the law by redistricing the state earlier than the legal requirments allowed them to. Politics in action. Frustrating, for sure, but part of the checks and balances enabled in our system to prevent any one person or group from completely ignoring the other "side."

      As it stands, they have sliced up the Democratic "stronghold" of Austin; I have friends in Austin who vote in the same congressional district as people in the Houston Area, 169 miles away.

      Geographically, this is similar to people in St. Louis, MO voting in the same District as Evansville, IN.

      Oh, and both jokes were funny.

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    8. Re:Lemme guess... by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm a Democrat, in Texas, and I supported what they did. Some called it being whiny bitches, but I think they did what they had to do to at least draw attention to what the Republicans have been up to. It was a joke. Laugh...

    9. Re:Lemme guess... by jandrese · · Score: 2, Funny

      You'd better be careful. I hear they shoot real Democrats down there.

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    10. Re:Lemme guess... by jandrese · · Score: 4, Funny

      It used to only be Blacks that were disenfranchised in the South. It's good to see that we have progress.

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    11. Re:Lemme guess... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Anecdotal evidence. The typical Texas Democrat supports the death penalty, opposes abortion, and owns guns. In majority Democrat states, such a person could be expected to vote Republican. A Texas Democrat may be a union worker, a trial lawyer, or a historically oppressed racial minority; these are all Democrat constituencies. You are correct that you ARE a democrat, but in other communities, you might find you have more in common with Republicans. By the same token, I would expect the typical Massachusetts Republican to vote Democrat in Texas.

      If I may be permitted a tiny flame, I'd suggest that you don't distinguish between statistical statements about groups of people and categorical statements about each member of a group of people. While the latter is fallacious, the former is not. Granted, they are easily confused, and bigots often pretend to say the former when they mean the latter. However, in intelligent discourse, it is important to realize that statistical statements CANNOT be refuted by anecdotes. "The averate 4-year-old can't read" is true, no matter how many gifted four-year-olds you might find.

    12. Re:Lemme guess... by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Funny

      You'd better be careful. I hear they shoot real Democrats down there.

      I hear they shoot back.

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    13. Re:Lemme guess... by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1
      I understand that the Republicans were twisting the re-districting to their advantage, but they were doing it within the letter of the law, which is all you can ask for these days.

      Fuck that kind of attitude. I demand a _LOT_ more from my leaders than just "doing it within the letter of the law". If they don't perform to a higher moral standard, then I'll support screwing'm any way possible - and if it takes "pathetic and childish" acts (which were also "doing it within the letter of the law"), as long as it totally pisses off the original assholes, then that's fine with me.

    14. Re:Lemme guess... by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      WTF? Where do you get that? I know many democrats here in Texas, none of whom own guns, support the death penalty, are against abortion, or gay marriage, or anything like that. In fact, the few Democrats that are in power down here aren't like that. You're on crack and talking out your ass...

    15. Re:Lemme guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The blanket term "Americans" does the job..

    16. Re:Lemme guess... by deanj · · Score: 1

      It's exactly that kind of attitude (the "pathetic and childish" acts, not yours) that have damaged the Democrat party so much over the last few years. People are sick of it.

    17. Re:Lemme guess... by Pinefresh · · Score: 2, Funny

      I haven't been shot yet. =-O but seriously, if you want to have fun, go down to texas and tell people you're an atheist, they just about lose it. Most of them have never met an atheist, or anyone who's not a christian.

    18. Re:Lemme guess... by DickeyWayne · · Score: 1

      Democrats are not considered a serious threat to the current regime. The REAL threats are fiscal conservatives withing the Republican party. Of course, I'm just saying that theoretically... Of course I support President Bush's economic policies!...Big Government is Good Government!...If the budget is balanced, the terrorists win! Please! Don't come after me! I'm a loyal Bush Budget supporter! Really! I'm no fiscal conservative! AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!--terminal disconnect--

    19. Re:Lemme guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a Democrat in Portland, OR - "Little Beirut", possibly the most Liberal city in the country, I own guns, I support the death penalty for some crimes, and I am pro-choice/anti-abortion (meaning I don't support Abortions, but I have no interest in pushing that belief on you). I am an environmentalist who likes boating and off-roading. I own several vehicles and ride public transportation, and bicycle around. I believe in social programs but I don't believe in infinite welfare. I am also not very pro-labor. I believe in property rights, but also support controlled and planned growth.

      Nothing is ever as black/white as people would like...

    20. Re:Lemme guess... by ThomaMelas · · Score: 1

      Molly Ivans (texas political writer) wrote that staffers for Ann Richards (the last Democrat gov, and extremely liberal by Texas Standards) had a joke game about putting a bumper sticker on thier car that read "I'm the Queer that Ann sent to take your guns." and driving to Lubbock. It is a pretty right wing state, but some of the migration from the North is having an effect on the major cities at least. And I've met people who fit some of the wackier bible-thumper sterotypes down here.

    21. Re:Lemme guess... by ThomaMelas · · Score: 1

      There are many very, very liberal Texans. But to some degree the parent is right. I grew up in New England, and there I would be a moderate liberal. In Houston I find myself more on the extreme end of the party. I wouldn't say that the average Democrat is pro-gun, anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, pro-death penalty, but you're more likely to find a democrat here who might agree with two of those positions. And much more likely to find one who is at least one of those positions. Some of it is political history. Large amounts of Texan democrats should have gone Dixiecrat in the 40's but didn't. That group kept alot of party control.

    22. Re:Lemme guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Religion corrupts. Absolute religion corrupts absolutely...

    23. Re:Lemme guess... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Texan democrats are as wacked out as they were in the north east. Maybe not as screwed up as Californian democrats, but California is Speshul. I've lived in all those places, for the record.

      I probably lean righter than the /. average but this wasn't intended as a political post. I was referring to the Dale (from King of the Hill) kind of Texan that's anti-government, pro gun etc. You know, republican before republicans got born again.

      I got modded down for almost, but not quite breaking /. orthodoxy. There's some irony: /. squelching perceived (and incorrect!) right wing politics on an article abount free internet for government dissidents.

    24. Re:Lemme guess... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      Go back and read the second paragraph of my post. In particular, read the last sentence. And in case you still don't get it, I'll spell it out for you:

      STATEMENTS ABOUT GROUPS CANNOT BE REFUTED BY STATEMENTS ABOUT INDIVIDUALS.

      You know many Democrats. Do you know at least 1500 of them? Because if you don't, you can't base ANY valid statement about the beliefs of the group based on your acquaintances. Frankly, if you don't know why I say "1500", you aren't qualified to say ANYTHING about the opinions of large groups, unless you are quoting someone else's statistical study.

      Now, if you'd like to quote a statistical study to prove me wrong, feel free to do so.

    25. Re:Lemme guess... by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      hey asshat- let's see you quote a statistical study to back up your claims. otherwise you're just talking out your ass.

      how about i make a stupid generalization like people named dillon are nose-picking, booger-eating morons, and then tell you that you can't say that's not true just because you don't know any. show me a statistical study, dillon, you booger-eater, you!

      i believe that the burden of proof is on you, since you made the original assertion.

    26. Re:Lemme guess... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      I stand by my assertion that a Texas Democrat would be a moderat Republican in Massachusetts, and vice versa. If you disagree, I encourage you to produce evidence to support your position; I've got common sense on my side, and you give no evidence of having science on yours. I'll bow to science but not to ad hominem attacks, appeals to irrelevant authorities, false analogies, or proofs by repeated assertion.

    27. Re:Lemme guess... by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

      I'll bow to science but not to ... proofs by repeated assertion.

      Is that not what you are doing? Show me where you get your "facts"- If science is so important to you, show me where in scientific fact you base your claim. Saying "common sense" is on your side is meaningless. Just because Democrats are outnumbered in Texas doesn't make the few Democrats that are here any less liberal than your average American Democrat (Massachusetts Dems likely being more liberal than average).

  5. Dear submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your parents' basement is not an oppressive regime.

    Love,
    People suffering under the oppressive regimes of employers

    1. Re:Dear submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Sounds like you speak from experience?

      Just because you like being tied up in his parents basement doesn't mean he's into the same fetishes you are.

    2. Re:Dear submitter by El_Smack · · Score: 1

      Funniest. Post. Ever.

      Mod. Parent. Up.

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    3. Re:Dear submitter by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      God luv ya, AC, and perect timing on a Friday afternoon to boot.

      Seriously: I read this submission and couldn't get that famous image of that student in China standing up against a tank out of my mind. Gosh, you think that fellow went home at the end of the day and blogged about it? Ooh, ooh, I know, I know, he posted to Democratic Underground, making a poll and asking for consensus...

      BTW, the grinding sound you hear is John Peter Zenger tumbling about in his grave.

    4. Re:Dear submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > Seriously: I read this submission and couldn't get that famous image of that student in China standing up against a tank out of my mind. Gosh, you think that fellow went home at the end of the day and blogged about it?

      Of course not!

      But thanks to the set of corneas he so graciously donated for my transplant, I can see the screen well enough to type this!

    5. Re:Dear submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course not. But don't you think that if those students were organizing a protest like that today, they'd use some sort of internet-based solution?

    6. Re:Dear submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those dissidents, there's LiveJournal.

    7. Re:Dear submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PS: surfing for porn doesn't count as "paricipating in pro-freedom activities"

      Love,
      Mom

    8. Re:Dear submitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7567 9.stm

      Info about Chinese students and tanks

  6. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First posting on a Friday evening. Sheesh, my life is dull :)

  7. Move? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move?

  8. wireless by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Open wireless nerworks wouldn't work because?

    1. Re:wireless by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Open wireless nerworks wouldn't work because?

      Connected to what when the government tracks everything and owns/controls all of the nations connectivity?

      You may as well have suggested FDDI or gigabit ethernet would solve the problem.

      Once you're inside of a 'repressive regime', it's a lot more difficult to circumvent than just pick a new network layer.
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    2. Re:wireless by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      If you're in China and you want to access a blocked site by the chinese ISP, how does a wireless network help?

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    3. Re:wireless by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      You are braudcasting your computer like a sore thumb to the spies. Hmm who is using wireless today. Well lets get out our pingle can and bingo!

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    4. Re:wireless by kouhoutek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Beacuse:
      A. Repressive regimes may not have a lot of unsecured open hotspots.
      B. Repressive regimes may not have an abundance of wireless enabled laptops, and possessing one would draw attention.
      C. Going from "inside the internet cafe" to "within 150' of the internet cafe" doesn't get you that much. Repressive regimes are pretty good with triangulation.

    5. Re:wireless by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      Since this is underground type shit you could easily tap in to someones phoneline, splice the cables at a trunk and use a laptop to dial up (use a dialup account from the US or something, where it'd be impossible to warrent information out) Use proxy servers (encrypted) to do your deeds, then sign off, and leave the area.

      This sounds overly complicated and not worth the hassle, but then again, if you want to post shit that is illegal in your country anyways, what business do you have doing it? Go to www.thiscountrysucks.com and post MY COUNTRY SUCKS... well I mean what type of info are these people talking about in the 'underground'?

      I'd move out of the country if I were them. Why live in private bashing them when you could leave the borders and bash them in public? Nothing will ever change if you talk bad about your gov't in private.

    6. Re:wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you don't want the gestapo arresting the person whose unsecured wireless network you were using.

    7. Re:wireless by dgatwood · · Score: 1
      Going from "inside the internet cafe" to "within 150' of the internet cafe" doesn't get you that much. Repressive regimes are pretty good with triangulation.

      Not necessarily. With a properly designed cantenna, you can shoot at an open Wi-Fi hotspot from anywhere within several miles as long as you have something approaching line of sight. You could hit one through a window from the comfort of your own home if you're lucky.... As an added bonus, directional signals are exceptionally hard to triangulate....

      Also, that's just with an antenna that you can make with leftover scrap from the grocery store. The record for a pair of commercial Wi-Fi antennas with boosters is 310 km. (Of course, that was land to air....)

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    8. Re:wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a person attempting to deploy a wireless mesh [for the above reasons ] to a middle east country with no non gov pipes anywhere to be found
      i say:
      i wish it were that easy.
      ie/
      when all teh ipes are controlld the solutions are limited and willahve ot be creative.

      i ma trying to do the freenet routing thing over wirless mesh - its real pain.

    9. Re:wireless by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      Assuming neither unsecured WiFi hotspots nor safe internet cafes, can Chinese citizens buy pre-paid mobile phones and then use dial-up networking (DUN) to make data calls over the mobile phone?

    10. Re:wireless by kbnielsen · · Score: 1

      Well, for many, moving out of the country is not an option... Why do you think that some Chinese tries to smuggle themselves to the US. Or people form Libya tries to sneak to Spain... Or Cubans to the US?? It certainly not because they are welcome in these countries, and they risk it big time if they try to leave their country... If caught, punishment will follow...

      In some countries it's illegal to post your opinions on the ruling party (China eg), so what we consider normal and within freedom of speach, isn't there. And therefore, people who want to speak up against the regime, needs some way to do it.

      Personally, I don't think that splicing the cables and do your phonecalls from there is a viable solution. First, if you engage in eg. speaking up against a regime, you wouldn't want to attract too much attention to yourself by doing further criminal acts. Second, you'll jeopardize the persons, who you "borrow" the phone lines from..

    11. Re:wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what happens when your oppressive regime doesn't let you move out?

      Or you have family members being held hostage by your government?

    12. Re:wireless by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Directional signals are EASIER to triangulate.

      If you can get inside the beam that is..

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    13. Re:wireless by dgatwood · · Score: 1
      One can triangulate an omnidirectional signal easily to a precise point in a 2D space. Take two receivers of sufficient distance, measure the angle of reception using directional antennas, and you can isolate the point of origin to within a few meters.

      By the conventional definition of triangulation, in theory, it isn't even POSSIBLE to triangulate the source of a directional beam, as it is impossible to pick the signal up at two non-collinear points. Of course, in reality, signals spread, so it isn't quite impossible, but it is very difficult to get enough accuracy to have a good measurement of distance from the source of the beam.

      All you can do with a sufficiently directional signal is determine the direction. Then, you must move in that direction for a while and try to stay within the beam (or at least pick it back up every hundred feet or so. The signal must be in operation for long enough to follow the beam to its source. With terrain in-between, this proves much more challenging. And, of course, if the endpoint changes periodically, this can be even more fun.

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    14. Re:wireless by phasm42 · · Score: 1

      I guess that wouldn't be triangulation then :-)

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    15. Re:wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Repressive regimes are pretty good with triangulation.

      And you should try their coffee, too.

      Thanks, I'll be here all night. Or at least back in the office Saturday and Sunday.

  9. write in advance, encrypt and email it by maharg · · Score: 4, Informative

    write it in advance, take it to the cybercafe on a floppy, pgp it, email it to someone you trust (or an automated publisher)

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    1. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by maharg · · Score: 2, Informative

      oops, meant pgp, then put it on the floppy

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      $ strings FTP.EXE | grep Copyright
      @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
    2. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by tekiegreg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only issue I see with that is that it is possible to detect (though not decode) encryption. If a repressive government sees a particular pattern coming from a particular cybercafe, they'll start watching more and someone could still be in trouble under the "well why would you encrypt it? You must be a dissident!" assumption. That could be just as bad as if they were leaving it unencrypted....

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    3. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by MonkeyOfRage · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Would Blogger's post-by-email feature count as an automated publisher? A secure HTTP proxy, like MegaProxy, might be an alternative. I suppose that how anonymous it is depends on 1) how determined the regime is to know what you're doing, and 2) whether the remige is blocking proxies.

    4. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah like MegaProxy isn't a front.

    5. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by FreezerJam · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just beefing that up a bit...

      In general keep needed software and materials off the machine, on usb key only. Ideally, use an OS with no swapping. Keep the USB key in a shielded housing when not in use to prevent locating it due to active components.

      Regularly use the machine for innocuous activities, so that there is a record of something. Regularly use an identical usb key with the system, to provide cover in the event you are seen with the device (see below), and to provide a reason for any needed drivers on the machine.

      To send...

      1) write it in advance
      2) PGP it
      3) steganographically hide it
      4) take it to the cybercafe on a floppy/usb key
      5) upload it to a public place where everyone can see, so it is hard to track receipt
      6) Afterwards, out-of-band relay to a contact where to find it. If you relay ahead of time, a compromised contact could leak where to look for you. THIS IS THE HARDEST PART. It is effectively your key-exchange process.

      For receipt...

      1) Beforehand, find out where to look for what. THIS IS THE OTHER HARDEST PART. It is effectively your key-exchange process.
      2) at cybercafe, download uninteresting materials
      3) at home, de-steg and de-crypt
      4) store only if needed on key

      Regularly upload and download un-steg (no payload) and random steg (random payload) materials to defeat traffic analysis.

      If you have any time left over after all this, you can use it to be a dissident. However, you should regularly do other things such as get a job or have a family to provide a plausible reason for your existence.

    6. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Simonetta · · Score: 4, Informative

      write it in advance, take it to the cybercafe on a floppy, pgp it, email it to someone you trust (or an automated publisher)

      This wouldn't work in the People's Republics where sending and receiving encrypted messages is illegal.
      In this case, perhaps encrypting the message and putting the message inside a photograph using a stegnography program would work for a while.
      Eventually the police will learn about stegnographic programs and test all photos leaving the country on the web for any messages. There aren't that many commercial steg programs around.
      In brutal repressive regimes, the primary means of gathering information on the resistance is through informers. Eventually the police arrest everyone and offer them the deal of either spy on your neighbors and friends or rot in prison forever. The former East Germans were the masters of this. Almost everyone was forced to spy for the secret police. When the government fell the people first burned down the internal security headquarters and the files. The Israelis also use this technique to control Palestine. But they are far too heavy-handed to be effective.
      Assume that the best scientists and engineers will be working to spy on people. The police can easily arrest these people for imaginary crimes and then offer them special treatment in exchange for their willing co-operation. An excellent novel on how this works is The First Circle by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, writing about the slave labor camps for scientists in the Stalinist USSR.

    7. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by mogrify · · Score: 1

      mod parent up.

      this is almost certainly going to be the sticking point with any solution. these governments don't *need* to know what you're transmitting, just that you are trying to hide something - then they can background-check you at their leisure, if they even care about proving anything.

      what's needed is a cryptographic AND steganographic solution... hide the encrypted traffic within a seemingly innocuous transmission, so it's not even apparent that anything dissident-y took place.

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    8. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by MonkeyOfRage · · Score: 1

      I really don't know much about them. Can you elaborate?

    9. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by XMyth · · Score: 1

      Are they going to assume that ALL SSL traffic is fishy? PGP it then transmit it via an innocent SSL website.

    10. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Krunch · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe Tinfoil Hat Linux could be useful to someone after all.

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    11. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by maharg · · Score: 1

      kudos, FreezerJam. I knocked out the basic idea trying to get fp, but you've obviously given this some thought.

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    12. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by tekiegreg · · Score: 1

      SSL Itself is vulnerable to man in the middle attacks (Google for details), the repressive governments in question, with their controlling proxies would be delighted to use such an attack if they had the hackers for it. The question is how far do they want to go?

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    13. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by rizzo420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      to add to that wonderful list... use different cybercafes in a random manner... don't use the same machine at any cybercafe.

      also, try using one of those secure usb key's (lexar has one). and always do boring, mundane stuff while you're at the cafes, even when you go for the main purpose, start up a normal browsing session before you upload anything and flip back to it during the transfer.

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    14. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by jafac · · Score: 1

      better still- if one can copy a password out of a file on the USB drive or floppy (or even a burned CD ROM), and paste it into the login field, then a keylogger will never see keystrokes other than "ctrl-c" and "ctrl-v".

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    15. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by XMyth · · Score: 1

      SSL is only vulnerable to MIM attacks if the user is ignorant of how SSL works. If you see a 'untrusted cert' message then you know something is wrong and you can stop what you're doing before you send anything sensitive.

    16. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On top of keeping the password stored on CD or key so you just ctrl-v so keyloggers don't see it, also store the password in a paragraph that you write as an essay, story, or something like that. The password will look legit. Make it a passphrase written as a sentence....

    17. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      use different cybercafes in a random manner... don't use the same machine at any cybercafe.

      Bad idea.

      If you naively use the same cybercafe each time, the police will be able to watch the cybercafe, observing who is attending whenever the suspicious stuff happens, therefore you will be found quite easily.

      If you visit different cybercafes each time to avoid this, the police will simply watch a few local ones. You will show up at each one when the suspicious stuff happens. It takes a few more policemen, but you actually get caught quicker.

      Another solution is to use the same cybercafe each time, but do so during lunch hour, and use one near to a school or something. Basically, you want to have your visits coincide with a lot of people at the same time, and the same people each time.

      Of course at this point, the government will simply run a check on each observed person and find that you have a computer and internet connection at home, which means that there's no reason for you to be visiting a cybercafe.

      The problem is that the police can predict your visits. If you wait a few months in between suspicious activity and there is no CCTV, then you can be reasonably certain the police won't be able to find you, as long as you don't use the same one each time. Presumably the police don't have the resources to track who uses which cybercafe at any given moment.

    18. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      better still- if one can copy a password out of a file on the USB drive or floppy (or even a burned CD ROM), and paste it into the login field, then a keylogger will never see keystrokes other than "ctrl-c" and "ctrl-v".

      Storing a password in plaintext? Are you mad? Simply have a dummy shopping list that happens to contain all the letters in your password, and copy them individually. That has two advantages: it isn't evidence against you, and it doesn't give up the password to the authorities.

    19. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by tekiegreg · · Score: 1

      True dat, now I only hope the dissidents are as good at this as we are....

      Also a wild thought, we're talking repressive governments. If this government is powerful enough to throw some weight (we'll use China for this example), they might pull a secret agreement with said SSL encrypted site where "we let you run in this country, you provide us with your private key". Then anything is possible....

      Or for that matter, what would stop a government from saying "We'll filter all SSL that isn't issued by our certificating authority." and then creating a certificate authority that copies the government on the private key...it's hard to tell the full extent of how repressive an evil government can be...

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    20. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by chgros · · Score: 1

      better still- if one can copy a password out of a file on the USB drive or floppy (or even a burned CD ROM), and paste it into the login field, then a keylogger will never see keystrokes other than "ctrl-c" and "ctrl-v".
      It wouldn't be hard to have a clipboard logger.

    21. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You read Tom Clancy novels too huh?

    22. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Mechcozmo · · Score: 1

      The Israelis do not use the methods described by you. Israel is a bit more forceful in its questioning than the United States, but since Abu Ghurab, the title is unquestionable in the hands of the good ol' USA. Next time you want to spread some anti-Semetic FUD, do it somewhere else.

    23. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by danila · · Score: 1

      Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is a liar. In case you didn't know that, he was a voluntary informant in the camps. Read [[Leonid Samutin]]'s book "Do not create an idol", for example. Leonid Samutin was a staunch anti-communist and knew Solzhenitsin since they met in the camp. In 1970s at the request of the author Samutin kept the manuscript of "The Gulag Archipelago" hiding it from KGB, so he knew how it was quite well.

      Don't believe every bit of propaganda that you hear. It's bad for your mental health.

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    24. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      uhm, pgp - doesn't that stand for "Pretty Good Privacy"? I wouldn't personally want to put my life in the hands of "Pretty Good" privacy :)

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    25. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Odocoileus · · Score: 1

      Like previously said, putting it in a photo will only last so long. So perhaps the best way is to avoid detection is to have an encryption system that only alters keywords in a message. If you have what appears to be an ordinary, plain message, without any, or at least without many, key words appearing in it, then how could it possibly be detected?

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    26. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by paxmark1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, The First Circle is one of my favourite all time novels.

      We don't drown in the ocean, we drown in the puddle.

      Peace,

      Mark

    27. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by meesto · · Score: 1

      Rumor has it that this particular approach is already being applied in the state of Vermont. A friend, while stopped for speeding, was offered to be let go with only a verbal warning if they would only tell the police the names of local drug dealers.

    28. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by electr01nik · · Score: 1

      And if you don't know the names of any local dealers will still you get a warning,or will they give you the speeding ticket?

    29. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1
      try using one of those secure usb key's (lexar has one)
      Don't use the Lexar nerdstick that discloses your password, which they stored unhashed.
    30. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Delphinios · · Score: 1

      It's quite a bit better then "Absolutely No Privacy"...

    31. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by XMyth · · Score: 1

      Two good points. There may be no real way to stay/get safe.

      I wonder....is there any satellite broadband available from China (any sats that they can reach at least). That would be viable I think if it was a foreign ISP.

    32. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2) at cybercafe, download uninteresting materials

      Hm, why would you want the risk of being seen at a cafe? Just use a random WAP and change your mac address and don't stay too long. Pick areas like hotels but out of sight of survalence cameras or appartment buildings.

    33. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by tekiegreg · · Score: 1

      Hmmmm can a country claim soverignty over it's outer space region? Or what would stop me from launching a satellite in Geosynchronous orbit over china to provide broadband? Now China could one day in the near future get the capability to shoot down that satellite but until then they get unfiltered Internet and I get lots of money!!!

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    34. Re:write in advance, encrypt and email it by Imran · · Score: 1

      "Israel is a bit more forceful"

      A masterful understatement. You wouldn't happen to be English, by any chance?

      "anti-Semetic FUD"

      What an idiotic response. Criticism of Israel does not imply anti-semitic views. Gosh, pure disgust with Israel does not, in itself, imply anti-semitic views. One could reasonably argue that one can despise Israel for its persistantly brutal activities, without needing to hold any negative views on Jews and Judaism (its hard to find another state which has been so consistantly repressive against civilians within its control).

      The more people like you jump up and shout "anti-Semite, anti-Semite" at anyone who even remotely criticises Israel, then you just lessen the effectiveness of that charge. Which is a shame.

      Racism, and racist views, are to be deplored. Calling someone a racist or more specifically, and anti-Semite, without justification, is also to be deplored. Its almost as bad as the original 'crime' itself.

  10. So basically by dJCL · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Your saying that some Americans want to get the word out?

    Sorry, couldn't help myself...

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    1. Re:So basically by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Ya, we laugh now...

    2. Re:So basically by inKubus · · Score: 1

      Help, I'm being oppressed by the Department of Homoland Security!

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  11. Onion Routing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:Onion Routing by A8bbNjwk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tor is not steganographic. If the regime decides that simply using Tor is reason for suspicion or surveillance, all they have to do is monitor for outgoing TCP connections on port 9001. Tor also sends packets in standard sizes. Cue thugs breaking down your door.

      I think they would say that Tor is not designed for this "threat model". This is not to say that onion routing could not be used for this purpose if it were better hidden.

      Sending an encrypted message drive-by style over an open WAP seems to pretty secure, as long is it is not near your home and you don't use it more than once.

  12. vpn by calyptos · · Score: 1

    You could get a foreign vpn account.

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  13. Could this be mis-used? by drsmack1 · · Score: 1, Funny

    I can see it now:

    Chekov: Excuse me I'm looking for the nuclear wessels

    Chekov: Nuclear wessels.

  14. I do not know if this is valid... by metlin · · Score: 1

    ...but what about Metanet?

    (I'm not even entirely sure if its for real, but hey!)

    1. Re:I do not know if this is valid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It is real. Anyone interested in how to connect can send mail to bill.t.gates at gmail d0t com.

      It is a network that is based on OpenVPN and Quagga (for BGP routing). The last time someone posted the connect details on slashdot, we were overwhelmed. If you are truly interested though, shoot an email over to that account and someone will shoot you back the instructions.

      A variant of Unix or BSD with a dedicated connection is recommended -- but NOT required. The reason being, we would like as many people as possible to be permanent "nodes".

      This is NOT freenet. It is fast and _extremely_ reliable.

      One last thing, if you send mail to the above address, do it from an account that is NOT tied to you (webmail through a proxy).

      Ok, one MORE last thing. Once you are on the Metanet ... you can do whatever you want. But I will tell you right now ... if you are looking for kiddie porn, look elsewhere. Most anything goes ... but a line has to be drawn somewhere. While the network is anonymous and you won't be busted ... we can disconnect bad nodes.

    2. Re:I do not know if this is valid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Brief description of the Metanet and how it works:

      It is a network of VPNs built on top of the plain ol' internet. Routing is done via BGP (the framework has been laid to do cost based routing -- but that is not there yet). We have web servers, ftp, irc, news (with one node donating an anon feed (read only for now) from the "real" Usenet with VERY large retention on binaries), IM (via jabber), AFS (this the the primary method of storing files), streaming media, email, dns (with special Metanet TLDs), a nice search engine...

      Basically we rebuilt the internet from the ground up ... but with anonymity in mind.

      We like people that join to have a basic understanding of internet protocols (we are NOT looking for leechs) but we make exceptions for people that would LIKE to learn.

  15. Freenet by TheRedHorse · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Freenet is the only solution I can think of, although it seems much slower than the common internet, and I'm not up to date on what content's available, but this is what freenet was made for.

    http://freenet.sourceforge.net/

    1. Re:Freenet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with current versions of freenet is that you have to be a 24/7 node to be able to publish anything reliably. In the "old days" you could be a transient node and publish with ease.

    2. Re:Freenet by kerskine · · Score: 1

      One way to speed up a 'freenet' would be to set up lots of nodes in the repressive regime. This could be done by using the internet cafe machines - although that would require comprising the systems somehow.

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  16. Re:SUK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rollofolloecopter .....FAILED!!

  17. MailBoxes Etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use the MailBoxes Etc over by the Watergate. Tell'em George sent you.

  18. Use the Circumventor. by Silverlancer · · Score: 4, Informative

    PeaceFire distributes a free program called the Circumventor which can be used (by running it on a server in a free country) to safely and securely proxy out of a firewalled nation like China.

    1. Re:Use the Circumventor. by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting
      PeaceFire distributes a free program called the Circumventor which can be used (by running it on a server in a free country) to safely and securely proxy out of a firewalled nation like China.

      I'm curious about this --- if in a nation like China all of the packets are routed through government owned machines, how would sending a proxy to a foreign machine circumvent them? All of your data still passes over the network in the country. The IPs of your foreign host could be blocked.

      I'm not dissing you, I'm just not 100% sure of how easy it is to bypass that. On the surface, depending on how they implemented it, I should think that's kinda like bypassing the phone system in my country so I can use another --- I still need the phone system I'm wired into, no?
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    2. Re:Use the Circumventor. by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You would connect to the proxy via SSL and hope that it is not noticed and then blocked.
      You pretty much have hit on the problem.
      Even if they can not read your data they will know it is encrypted. That could cause them to notice you.
      If you are in a totalitarian country you can not be safe and a dissident. I do wish them luck.

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    3. Re:Use the Circumventor. by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      Since proxied data is still flowing through communist firewalls, any SSL connections could easily be detected programatically. You need an easy-to-use covert channel. Imagine SSL connections using fake spam emails or file sharing fake MP3 as a stenographic network transport. If it was well-written, it could just plug into your OS's existing network stack without requiring network apps to be rewritten. Of course, latency would be slow and the communist firewalls might get suspicious if you receive AND send hundreds spams per minute! <:)

    4. Re:Use the Circumventor. by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      A proxy is a packet forwarder; all of your packets outbound through the firewall head to the proxy, and from there are forwarded to their ultimate destination. A similar process happens for return packets.

      So when the packets go through the firewall they appear to be heading for an innocuous (proxy) server and not the IP address of the server you're actually on...

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    5. Re:Use the Circumventor. by orion88 · · Score: 1

      PeaceFire distributes a free program called the Circumventor which can be used (by running it on a server in a free country) to safely and securely proxy out of a firewalled nation like China. Do you know if there's a *nix equivalent of this? -Ben

    6. Re:Use the Circumventor. by dickrichardv8 · · Score: 1

      Maybe we should ask the Poles? They did pretty good in the cold war era. I remember one of the Polish dissidents commenting something like: "computers sure are nice, It's a lot easier to break a cd into pieces than to have to eat paper".

    7. Re:Use the Circumventor. by larytet · · Score: 1

      my company firewall blocks access to all proxys and Websense blocks access to all proxy related web sites, for example http://larytet.sourceforge.net/betaTesting/websens e.PNG

    8. Re:Use the Circumventor. by larytet · · Score: 1
      i try to answer some of the problems by packet obfuscation. DNS and HTTP tunneling, etc.

      see http://larytet.sourceforge.net/btRat.shtml

  19. Tor by Tack · · Score: 4, Informative
    Look at Tor. It works well.

    Jason.

    1. Re:Tor by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Informative

      If it works at all.

      Wholesale blocking of Tor nodes as they are identified has become popular because, like anything remotely useful, it's been abused by spammers, stalkers, and other general asshats.

    2. Re:Tor by jspectre · · Score: 1

      so. invent something better that isn't subject to these abuses.

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    3. Re:Tor by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Interesting suggestion, but pretty much undoable. You can't have both anonymity and keep the bad guys out, since if you have a way to ID the bad guys, you have a way to ID the good guys. It's a trade-off.

    4. Re:Tor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Mixmaster and Mixminion for truly anonymous email. Even agencies would find it v. hard to trace those.

      *Anonymous* Coward.

    5. Re:Tor by TerminaMorte · · Score: 1

      What do you expect? Not many people who have access on the computers to run the tor client actually *need* tor; those that use it generally use it to get around bans.

    6. Re:Tor by sosiosh · · Score: 1

      I use Tor, and the latest version is very stable. Yes, your browsing and IM will be slower... but for a "dissident", that is probably fine. Now if you are a terrorist-that-kills-innocent-people type, don't use Tor. Write everything in clear text, an include accurate translations to English of everything you do.

    7. Re:Tor by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Didn't say I was surprised. Just warning that it may be problematic.

    8. Re:Tor by elemental23 · · Score: 2, Informative

      As far as spam goes, Tor nodes will be blocked only by mail server admins who don't know how Tor works or that the default exit policy is to disallow outbound port 25.

      Details

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    9. Re:Tor by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Doesn't do much for usenet spam, IRC flood-bots, AIM/ICQ/MSN-bots, etc...

    10. Re:Tor by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      Wrong, actually. You just don't allow out-proxying back to the parent network (in this case, the internet).

      Spammers can't spam in sucha situation, so they drop off. Asshats won't be able to stalk anyone... those on the internal network are anonymous, how can you stalk them? And they can't use this to reach those on the outside.

      You just can't have an anonymous network that still lets you connect to the internet through it, it's a joke.

      Oh, and if I were doing it, SOCKS tunnels are a dumb way of doing it. Why limit yourself to a single transport layer protocol?

    11. Re:Tor by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      That doesn't keep the abusers off. That just keeps certain kinds of abuse from happening.

    12. Re:Tor by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      So, the abusers get to stay, but they don't get to abuse? That sounds like a solution to me.

    13. Re:Tor by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Unless they find new ways to abuse.

      Preventing everyone from using the system to its fullest to prevent abuse is not a solution unless you're the MPAA.

    14. Re:Tor by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      #1 Abuse != "using system to the fullest".
      #2 Preventing spam and stalkers does not make one the ethical equivalent of the MPAA.
      #3 That some might discover a hypothetical methods of abuse at an indeterminate point in the future does not mean that it becomes impractical as a solution today.

    15. Re:Tor by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      #1: No, "Not letting the users back out of the network" = "Not using the system to its fullest"

      #2: If you adopt a "everyone is a potential spammer/stalker, so stop them all" approach, then it does.

      #3: Its not an impractical solution, because its not even a solution. Your suggestion is that you can secure a proxy by making it not a proxy anymore. While that is strictly true, it suffers from missing the point.

    16. Re:Tor by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      "Not letting the users back out of the network" = "Not using the system to its fullest"

      The internet is a broken network. I loved it, I still do. It may very well be one of the greatest technological marvels ever... but at some point, those responsible for it sold out. They let governments in, they let corporations in.

      It will never be the same, it is unsalvagable.

      Tor only hastens the inevitable crackdown. Even if 100% of the internet's users were protected by its anonymity, the premise is flawed... this only makes it that much easier to go after the publishers of the controversial material.

      What Tor gets right that freenet doesn't (that it's largely, though not perfectly, an IPv4esque network), it also gets wrong what freenet gets right (that it is its own network, built from the ground up with the intention of being its own network not dependent on another for content).

      "Not letting the users back out of the network" = "Not using the system to its fullest"

      In the strictest sense, everyone is a potential spammer. But I don't feel like punishing them beforehand, nor do I feel like making the effort of hunting them down after and punishing them then.

      Better to build a network where spam is worthless inside -- for instance, the network I propose... everyone is anonymous on it,their anonymity is important to them, and they're not stupid enough to buy penis pills from a spam and leave a money trail back to their identity. More so, this network isn't just a lameass proxy back to the internet where spammers can use it to hammer stooges who *do* buy penis pills -- so that we can use it to its fullest. Fullest being, what it was meant to do, that is, give us a mostly seperate IPv4/IPv6 network where we can do anything that IP allows you to do.

      Its not an impractical solution, because its not even a solution. Your suggestion is that you can secure a proxy by making it not a proxy anymore. While that is strictly true, it suffers from missing the point.

      It is a solution. You don't secure it by making it a non-proxy, you dispense with the boneheaded idea that proxies are a good thing. It's not missing the point, it's ignoring the flawed point that we should still be sucking on the internet's teat. Time to wean yourself, that milk is sour.

      Help me build a new network, where we don't have to put up with the bullshit.

  20. Congratulations by null+etc. · · Score: 1
    I'm working with some dissidents

    Congratulations, Carnivore just found a new snack.

    1. Re:Congratulations by FlameboyC11 · · Score: 1

      Carnivore was retired 2 years ago...

    2. Re:Congratulations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      .. and replaced with a system that's far more effective.

    3. Re:Congratulations by null+etc. · · Score: 1
      Carnivore was retired 2 years ago...

      From today's Slashdot News:

      IT: Feds Fund Anti-Terrorism Search Engine

      So you see, you can retire as many Carnivores as you want, but you'll never be rid of these contraptions.

  21. Apparently you are in the US by Colonel+Panic · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes

    Sounds like you're in the US, correct?

  22. There is no anonymity on the internet by HighOrbit · · Score: 3, Informative

    Between IP-Addresses, MAC addresses, and dial-in-numbers, there is no anonymity on the internet. Any feeling of anonymity is an illusion. Best not to risk your life if a regime is that oppressive. Not even encryption is safe, because as you mentioned, keyloggers and silent listeners can capture passcodes and keys. If you must pass information, try it the old fashioned way - person to person or with a trusted intermediary.

    1. Re:There is no anonymity on the internet by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Best not to risk your life if a regime is that oppressive."

      That's an excellent time to risk your life. Rolling over and "playing nice" is exactly what lets oppressive regimes exist.

    2. Re:There is no anonymity on the internet by Cecil · · Score: 1

      Yes, forget your silly ideas of dissent. You oughta just wait for the USA to come and "liberate" you.

    3. Re:There is no anonymity on the internet by daVinci1980 · · Score: 1

      I disagree. If there were no anonymity, then the Great Internet Fuckwad Theory wouldn't be true... But it is!

      (Anonymity of course being an integral part to the equation).

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    4. Re:There is no anonymity on the internet by Jack9 · · Score: 1

      To revise, "It's best not to risk your life by using the internet if a regime is that oppressive."

      Trolling is easy; try to keep it down by thinking.

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    5. Re:There is no anonymity on the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Rolling over and "playing nice" is exactly what lets oppressive regimes exist.

      Actually, it is exactly what lets me sit here in front of a Starbucks, in my boyfriend's Lexus, sipping a latte and chatting on his laptop. That and the fact that he couldn't switch from IE to Firefox without three IT consultants - so he is never any the wiser ;) He probably thinks keyloggers are the guys you can't do without if you are cutting down a forest....

    6. Re:There is no anonymity on the internet by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      Who the fuck modded this up? Obviously the GP post meant "Best not to risk your life by pursuing senselessly idiotic means of communication if a regime is that oppressive". Learn to read context.

      --
      In Repressive Burma, it's not just your connection that dies. slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=314547&cid=20819199
  23. I just bought shares of Alcoa... by El_Smack · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...cause there isn't enough tinfoil in the world for guys like this.

    --


    There are 01 kinds of cars in the world. The General Lee, and everything else.
    1. Re:I just bought shares of Alcoa... by PaxTech · · Score: 1

      Just because they're paranoid, doesn't mean that there isn't someone out to get them.

      --
      All movements for social change begin as missions, evolve into businesses, and end up as rackets.
    2. Re:I just bought shares of Alcoa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      eh...you do understand that there really are oppressive regimes in the world, which jail people for accessing or publishing internet content that the authorities disapprove of....right?

    3. Re:I just bought shares of Alcoa... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "They're trying to kill me"

      "No one's trying to kill you"

      "Then why are they shooting at me?"

      "They are shooting at everyone. They are trying to kill everyone."

      "And what difference does that make?"

      Yossarian LIVES.

  24. Signpost ahead: You've entered The Dissident Zone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime run Internet access?""

    Try fax nachines. It worked for the chinese.

    Seriously any encrypted traffic will automatically make you suspect. Doesn't need to be decrypted or anything.

  25. ssh by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google for free ssh connections, and chain a few of them together just to be sure. I run a free shell service myself (but its currently down for upgrading).

    --
    ------ Take away the right to say fuck and you take away the right to say fuck the government.
    1. Re:ssh by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      Wherever possible, the communication should be not just encrypted, but undetected and 'normal' when profiled. Otherwise, 'they' still know you're up to no good and will detain/surveil/interrogate/torture/extort anyone that'll get the information revealed.

      If you're quietly leaking resistance reports and it looks like you're surfing for something benign (apolitical news, entertainment or work-related information), nobody's the wiser. If you spend a couple hrs a day using encrypted channels, they'll notice.

      As used to be the mantra for so many supporters of PGP, this is a strong argument for ubiquitous encryption. If everything's in envelopes, those few life-protecting envelopes don't look out of place.

    2. Re:ssh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do all ssh tunneling over port 443 (As I recall that's the ssl port), then you can make it look like you were just doing some online banking.

    3. Re:ssh by ediron2 · · Score: 1
      Do all ssh tunneling over port 443 (As I recall that's the ssl port), then you can make it look like you were just doing some online banking.
      Nope. That'd only work if you can get a bank to set up the 443 ssh receiver. And good luck getting a bank to open 443 for ssh redirecting. Banks are the epitome of conservative behavior.

      Otherwise, target IP gives you away or at least confirms you're 'up to no good' in the eyes of whoever is watching you.

      But you're on the right track... hide by doing something arguably-innocent that's in plain sight. Now, if you can find someone like yahoo/aol that offers online banking and many other services, you might find a way to sneak that info thru. But really, do you trust *them* to not set up a tap when so ordered?

    4. Re:ssh by aCC · · Score: 1

      Better to google for "free shell accounts".

  26. https steganographic, encrypted proxies by js7a · · Score: 5, Informative
    From http://doc.asf.ru/Tools%20&%20Utilities.htm
    Corkscrew (Unix, Windows) : Tunnel SSH connections through an HTTP proxy.

    Curl (Unix, Windows) : Utility who permits to easily download and upload files by using different protocols: FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, Telnet, LDAP, ... Also supports proxies, cookies, authentification, resumes, ...

    DesProxy (Unix, Windows) : Tunnel TCP connections through an HTTP proxy, eventually by converting SOCKS requests.

    FizzBounce (Unix) : TCP redirector through HTTP proxies.

    HTTPort (Windows) [Closed source]: Tunnel TCP connections through the HTTP protocol, by simulating a SOCKS server, and by eventually using an intermediate server.

    HTTPTunnel (Unix, Windows) : Bidirectionnal tunnel through HTTP requests, eventually through an HTTP proxy.

    LibCurl (Unix, Windows) : Library who permits to easily download and upload files by using different protocols: FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, Telnet, LDAP, ... Also supports proxies, cookies, authentification, resumes, and lots of languages: C, C++, Perl, ...

    MultiProxy (Windows) [Closed source]: HTTP proxies tester. MultiProxy can be used as a proxy server who use a different proxy for each request.

    Numby (Unix) : Scanner for HTTP vulnerables proxies.

    Proxomitron (Windows) [Closed source]: Scanner and redirector through HTTP proxies, who can also delete or modify informations contained in HTML transferred pages. For example, this permits to easily filter automatic popups, DHTML or JavaScript.

    ProxyTools (Unix, Windows) : Set of Perl utilities, who permits to use, sort, test and search for HTTP proxies.

    TransConnect (Unix) : Transparently tunnel TCP connections through an HTTP proxy.

    Zylyx (Unix) : permits to access to files through HTTP proxy caches.

    1. Re:https steganographic, encrypted proxies by DrEldarion · · Score: 3, Informative

      Proxomitron [proxomitron.org] (Windows) [Closed source]: Scanner and redirector through HTTP proxies, who can also delete or modify informations contained in HTML transferred pages. For example, this permits to easily filter automatic popups, DHTML or JavaScript.

      I'd just like to say that this is one of the most wonderful programs of all time. Quite powerful.

    2. Re:https steganographic, encrypted proxies by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Too bad development on it has ceased, and it's windows-only as you mentioned.

      For the same functionality, but a bit tricker to configure, on *nix, check out Privoxy

    3. Re:https steganographic, encrypted proxies by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

      Most TCP Proxy tunnel programms stopped working, as microsoft turned of HTTP Connect messages.

      Desproxy was great and http proxy where great programs, but now our IT with one simple upgrade to the HTTP proxy patched our little door.

      Lucky we have SMTP servers, so mail->web gateways shouldnt be an issue. And if im bored could make a mail-irc gw (if it doesnt already exist)

      My favorite protocol gateway convertor is Delegate. http://www.delegate.org/delegate/features/

      Really, if you have a box inside and a box outside, and someway to pass data, you can move information. Even encrypted.

    4. Re:https steganographic, encrypted proxies by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      Excellent list.

      While I'm not sure of their 'hardness', I'd also recommend non-steg hiding: hiding in plain sight by using mechanisms that are harder to eavesdrop.

      The one I had in mind (again, not sure on hardness) is GAIM plus GAIM-ENCRYPTION. If chat has easy, ubiquitous encryption, you just sort of turn it on by default and the 'noise' of a thousand encrypted channels makes it that much harder to even know who is just chattering, who is using the security for business-security reasons, and who is a dissident.

      (note, this all goes out the window in regimes where possession of encryption is an offense by itself)

      Similarly, voip (SKYPE) or other scrambled/compressed/encrypted stuff can be an asset: they generate tons of capturable data, but no way to know which stuff matters enough to decrypt. Voice compression is less-likely to involve a risk of possession-of-encryption, because the encoding is so deep into the app that users aren't aware they're making life hard on the despots... they just wanna call internationally for free.

    5. Re:https steganographic, encrypted proxies by larytet · · Score: 1
      a couple of screenshots from my PC behind corporate firewall.
      place - Santa Clara, CA, US
      time - now

      1, 2, 3

  27. MUTE type solutions.. by Qybix · · Score: 1

    Has anyone considered something like a MUTE type of solution? If such a thing existed, I would allow a small percentage of my cpu time and network bandwidth to be used to route messages.

    --
    Qybix ----- I do not have a belief system; I'm an Anti-theist and proud of it! Saying that not believing in anything i
  28. Easy solution by Zone-MR · · Score: 1

    Get a server outside the regime. A dedicated linux or windows server is perfect for this.

    Then simply connect to this server using an encrypted connection such as SSH, X over SSH, Windows Remote Desktop, or whatever.

    Use the remote box for all your activities.

    1. Re:Easy solution by barryman_5000 · · Score: 1

      If you did do this be sure to have your ssh keys sent by something not electronic or that couldn't be searched (you know, if your mail is searched then don't get it sent that way either).

      If you do that then you will always be encrypted towards your server. Then just set it up as a proxy and boom, you got a great outgoing connection.

    2. Re:Easy solution by WigginX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You really need at least two external servers. Here's why:

      Suppose the authorities notice dissident activity from the first external server. If they then determine that I've been making connections to that dissident server, I'll be put under investigation. Yes my data may have been encrypted, but the connection alone is enough to raise suspicion.

      However, if I have two external servers, I use the first as a proxy to the second, and use the second to conduct dissident work. Since both servers are beyond the regime's control, they have no way of discovering the connection between them and attributing the dissident activity to me.

    3. Re:Easy solution by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 1


      Won't work...here's why:



      - If you connect from an internet cafe you risk having your SSH
      password captured with keyloggers.

      - If you connectfrom home, assuming your home system is free from keyloggers
      (not an automatic assumption in such a repressive environment),
      the streams of encrypted traffic emanating from your home IP
      are sure to attract unwanted attention. Sure, the authorities
      won't be able to read your data, but they will know that there's
      something there they can't read, which is just as bad.



      What you need is a secure communications channel that hides in plain sight...stego is an ideal candidate.

      --
      ____

      ~ |rip/\/\aster /\/\onkey

  29. GNUnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try GNUnet. They claim to allow for the promulgation of files in an encrypyted, anonymous environment.

    www.gnunet.org

    1. Re:GNUnet by bltfast32 · · Score: 1

      Definitely give this a spin. It is well thought out and goes to some pretty incredible lengths to protect privacy.

  30. Dissidence isn't supposed to be convenient. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you've gotten to the point where you're really worried about being caught and persecuted, perhaps the internet is not your safest bet, due to every reason being posted here, ie: keyloggers, etc. As much as you'd like to change your world, the "system" isn't going to make things easy for you to overthrow it. And the internet is very much a part of the "system." Unless you're ready to string up your own network and create a rebellion intranet, you're out of luck.

    Just do what they do on the Sopranos: keep it low tech, use payphones, meet in person. If your cause it that important and you need to spread information, may I suggest a major leaflet campaign?

    1. Re:Dissidence isn't supposed to be convenient. by Kphrak · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Couldn't agree more. As nerds, it's easy to recommend gimmick after technological gimmick. It's not so easy to imagine ourselves in a repressive regime. Consider that the very possession of cryptographic software, or even a computer, in some countries marks a person, if not as guilty, at least as under deep suspicion. I have heard that in North Korea, probably at this point the most repressive regime on the planet, radios are forbidden to all but a select few for fear that the populace might hear Voice of America or something. With restrictions like this, arguments on whether the dissident should use FreeNet or Tor suddenly sound pretty stupid.

      As the parent poster quoth, movies about the Mob show an excellent example of information security. The top people only talk to a few guys, who talk to a few more. In "The Godfather" (the book), Don Corleone won't even use a telephone because he's afraid the FBI will be able to splice together tape to frame him even if he reveals nothing over the phone. Now that's paranoid.

      The best way not to get busted is not to fall under suspicion (in a truly repressive country, once you're suspected, you're already tried, convicted, and headed for prison or worse). And if you get caught, the next best thing is not to know your fellow dissidents, so the authorities can't make you sing.

      --

      There's no sig like this sig anywhere near this sig, so this must be the sig.
    2. Re:Dissidence isn't supposed to be convenient. by FhnuZoag · · Score: 1

      Payphones can be bugged. People can be compromised. Travel may be logged. Borders can be closed, people can poke around your suitcases. Dumb kids delivering leaflets can be arrested, and worked over until they give names, faces, places, times. Sometimes, information is time-sensitive, and you don't have time to set up the elaborate procedures for the drop.

      Electronic means may be non-ideal, but at times they are the only means available.

    3. Re:Dissidence isn't supposed to be convenient. by Autobahn · · Score: 1

      There are two major advantages of the internet for dissidents that have no non-digital equivalent:

      1. Truly anonymous communication - using public key encryption you can repeatedly communicate with people without having any information about them whatsoever except their public key. In the real world you have to have a phone number, common drop point, or other physical connector.
      2. Mass publication - once your communique is published on a (foreign) web server, it's there for everyone to see forever, though you can restrict viewing to trusted parties only if desired.

      While the internet isn't a golden bullet (to the head of your dictator or otherwise), it has certain important advantages that can't be obtained elsewhere).

    4. Re:Dissidence isn't supposed to be convenient. by cowstaker · · Score: 1

      You are right in suggesting they go low tech. Why don't they phreak. Get a pair of aligator clips, learn how to clip accross phone lines, then dial an isp that isn't in the country. They would bypass any ip based solutions to filter the traffic. It's easy, simple, and hey free. It is very hard to track. They could add a capacitor to their clips and build out a fake distance for their line. They could see people coming a mile away. Never do it in the same place.

    5. Re:Dissidence isn't supposed to be convenient. by CHESTER+COPPERPOT · · Score: 1

      This is similar to the millenium challenge military exercise where General Paul Van Riper basically negated the support to military operations intelligence gathering technology like satellites, communications intercept etc. How'd he do this? With using human runners to deliver messages, broadcasting foreign language messages over the muslim call to prayer loudspeakers and generally just negating the adversaries strong points (technology) by refusing to play in their arena.

      I also think you guys way overestimate the capabilities of the NSA. Yes they have the logistical and monetary backing to electronically gather any information they want, but at the base level they are still humans with human problems like bureaucracy, slow decision making etc. The essential dialogue between a target and a team of NSA guys is still human and can be exploited with deception and and the right strategy. I'm not doubting they are a great organisation that could take down people but I'm just saying there is the possibility that one could outwit such policing and intelligence agencies if you were smart and had a paranoid and devilish attitude about it.

  31. Can't be too repressive... by null+etc. · · Score: 1
    I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes.

    I'm surprised that repressive regimes allow Internet. Or wait, am I thinking of oppressive regimes. Or surpressive regimes... Damn I always get my regimes mixed up.

    Anyways, tell them to play EverQuest - that will make them forget about the regimes. Although then they'll have to worry about repressive clans and PK'ers.

    1. Re:Can't be too repressive... by BeerCat · · Score: 1

      tell them to play EverQuest

      Actually, that may not be such a bad idea. Anyone trying to be inconspicuous watching will see you are playing a MMORPG. All the IP logs will also show it. However, it's who you contact while playing that is the key. So, provided the "friends" are also online, then they can be contacted.

      OK, so it's a bit of security through obscurity, but it may work.

      --
      "She's furniture with a pulse"
    2. Re:Can't be too repressive... by Portal1 · · Score: 1

      Actualy a very good idea.
      Go in a game and meet there in a virtual dungeon
      there you can discuss without suspision, or being overheard
      Also as long as you keep the discusion discriptive noone will bother, they think you are playing a game.

      Just make sure the game runs in encrypted mode, to make evesdropping hard

      Another method is hide information among other information, like in pictures you can add easily additional information that can only be extracted with the right key and programs.

      Just make all look as normal as possible, so noone is suspisous.

      The biggest problem is however always the internal mole.

      --
      There are no stupid questions, Just a lot of inquisitive idiots. (from a good friend)
  32. Welcome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On behalf of the Anonymous Coward community, allow me to welcome you here. You may indeed post anonymously here. Of course, it takes a while to post our messages. "Frist Psot" = A, "I for one welcome.." = B, and so on. You'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.

  33. Impossible based on requirement by ebrandsberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you assume that any "public" PC is infected with a key logger, then you can NOT guarantee any level of protection, as they can always find the names of sites you type in, etc. You must have some level of trust on the PC before you can consider any solution. Beyond that, you would want to make use of an encrypted connection to a proxy or vpn outside the control of the regime, then access the content from there.

  34. Screw using the internet... by realmolo · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you want to communicate with your fellow dissidents in secret, just broadcast it through a UPN affiliate. I guarantee NO ONE will ever see what you're up to.

    1. Re:Screw using the internet... by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      Secret agent Moesha, reporting for duty!

      --
      Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
  35. Tor by johnynek · · Score: 1
    I know they might feel uncomfortable running this software from home, but I feel like it should be mentioned:

    http://tor.eff.org/

    It is free software from the EFF. It is an anonymous socks proxy.

    --
    jabber: johnynek@jabber.org
  36. anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  37. Next Time by zepmaid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dear DocMurphy, Next time, please submit stories as AC. Posting your email address on the front page of slashdot is a poor way of achieving anonymity.

    1. Re:Next Time by pocketfullofshells · · Score: 2, Funny

      Alright, the first idiot gave us his email address... now lets break him and get some more names, so we can find out how retarded these other dissidents are.

  38. OPEN VPN by essreenim · · Score: 0

    http://openvpn.net/ It's an alternative. Difficult to get going but might help... It is like the Zion of the internet

  39. doesn't seem possible... by machinecraig · · Score: 1

    As other posters have pointed out, if you can't trust anything about the machine your using - then that settles the matter. Your number one goal if this is the case, should be to obtain trusted hardware and a method of getting it online. It goes without saying that everything depends on the level of hostility that you're up against. If getting caught means that you get imprisoned or executed, priority number 1 should be getting out of that country - not getting web pages uploaded.

    Even the methods of using proxies to hide your IP only really works by trusting the party that's running the proxy.

    1. Re:doesn't seem possible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      reinstall the OS. Don't connect till a solution is found. In fact, don't reinstall till a solution is found, unless you can lock the cherry box up somewhere in the mean time. Only use this (these) box(es) for disident activity. I'd do a clean install of trustix with the absolute minimum # of services. Lock the ports down, only using port 80. Then have them tunnel to a secure proxy outside the country's domain. It won't be easy, nor safe, but if you gotta use the net....

  40. And the entire internet is public.. by HighOrbit · · Score: 1

    that's the point of the "internet". Tt is a public network. Traffic gets routed through other peoples routers. Almost any "interent" traffic can be subjected to man-in-the-middle attacks at the routers. Even if it is encrypted, they can go to one end (source or destination), break in, and install a keylogger or listener to capture the key and decode a message after the fact.

    1. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Rei · · Score: 1

      1) Find a friend in America
      2) Have them run a website that has plauslbly-reasonable ssl content (a fake store or whatnot).
      3) Run an ssl over http tunnel to them.
      4) Enjoy your uncensored ssl connection. ... oh, what the heck:

      5) ?????
      6) Profit!

      --
      Stale pastry is hollow succor to one who is bereft of ostrich.
    2. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by AuMatar · · Score: 2, Funny

      5)Friend turns paid informant to the opressive government.

      That will garuntee 6.

      --
      I still have more fans than freaks. WTF is wrong with you people?
    3. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by pcmanjon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check out http://freenet.sourceforge.net/

      Its' free software which lets you publish and obtain information on the Internet without fear of censorship. To achieve this freedom, the network is entirely decentralized and publishers and consumers of information are anonymous. Without anonymity there can never be true freedom of speech, and without decentralization the network will be vulnerable to attack.

      Communications by Freenet nodes are encrypted and are "routed-through" other nodes to make it extremely difficult to determine who is requesting the information and what its content is.

      Users contribute to the network by giving bandwidth and a portion of their hard drive (called the "data store") for storing files. Unlike other peer-to-peer file sharing networks, Freenet does not let the user control what is stored in the data store. Instead, files are kept or deleted depending on how popular they are, with the least popular being discarded to make way for newer or more popular content. Files in the data store are encrypted to reduce the likelihood of prosecution by persons wishing to censor Freenet content.

    4. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They're probably talking about America to start with! (posting anonymously to protect my... oh wait...)

    5. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by crackfiend · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      America?

      --
      aimed the big 650 Lightning across the Bay Bridge at a hundred miles an hour ... booming through the T
    6. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > 5)Friend turns paid informant to the opressive government.

      That word "turns". Is that how they say "was, from the start, a" in your country? :)

    7. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 5, Informative

      Even better:

      1. Have a PC with a CDROM drive.
      2. Rent or borrow an SSH account outside the country.
      3. Boot PC using KNOPPIX (do not load hard drive)
      4. Open a connection through SSH that forwards a local to an anonymous proxy at the far end.
      5. Use 127.0.0.1 as your proxy address.
      6. Surf away!

      When done (or if the government busts in!), reboot your computer - no traces left. (Knoppix stores everything in RAM).

      Keyloggers do not work against you, because you are booting from known media. (On the other hand, if the NSA REALLY wants you, they will hack your bios - but no one else is probably that anal).

      --
      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    8. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Guess what, if you live in a repressive reigime, the only crime they have to charge you with is illegal use of a cryptographic device (or something along those lines).

      They understand the power of crypto, they will outlaw it. That's why the writeup for the article mentioned avoiding the use of personal PCs.

    9. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      Do you know what most people do when a security camera goes blank? That's right, they send security over to check it out.

      What do you think will happen when one of the cafe's loggers suddenly stops logging?

      That's right, they send over the security.

      Not exactly the best way to avoid drawing attention to your actions.

    10. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      http://www.keyghost.com/sx/
      This device will happily log all your keystrokes whatever media you decide to boot from.

    11. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about traces of swapped-out memory on the hard drive?

    12. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except $20 over at ThinkGeek will get you a hardware keylogger that plugs inbetween the keyboard and the PC. Whatever software you use then will be irrelivant.

    13. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Knoppix does not swap by default - by default it doesn't even mount the drive!

      --
      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    14. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Yes, the truely paranoid would only do this on their own computer, and check the keyboard each time for "bad stuff".

      Like I said, you can also hack the bios (either keyboard or PC), but most people wouldn't bother.

      --
      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    15. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by FooBarWidget · · Score: 1

      It won't help if they installed key loggers in the keyboard itself.

    16. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Most keyloggers are passive, recording the info and then storing it for review. Even if it wasn't, if the government really has every place in the country under survelliance then there is no way to do anything anyway.

      Really, all you can do is get a reasonable chance as long as they do not single you out.

      --
      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    17. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Most places, having a copy of Knoppix is pretty explainable - and won't get you arrested by itself.

      On the other hand, in a regime where crypto is illegal, don't you think they could arrest you without cause anyway? Why bother with the crypto argument?

      All this does is allow you to hide what you are doing within reason.

      --
      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    18. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If they're really after you, they'll scour your RAM for whatever recoverable material is left behind.

      RAM isn't completely recovery proof.

      Now... as for the original question, isn't this what freenet was supposed to be for?

      Freenet is free software which lets you publish and obtain information on the Internet without fear of censorship. To achieve this freedom, the network is entirely decentralized and publishers and consumers of information are anonymous.
      ...
      Users contribute to the network by giving bandwidth and a portion of their hard drive (called the "data store") for storing files. Unlike other peer-to-peer file sharing networks, Freenet does not let the user control what is stored in the data store
      In other words, the site is published by you, but hosted on some other freenet member(s) box.

      That was the entire point of freenet, to allow for truly anonymous publishing of material.
      Oh yea, and don't forget to check the "Post Anonymously" box

      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    19. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by willwarner · · Score: 1

      Thank you very much for the info; this could be quite useful. But I'm afraid you lost me in step 4. Could you please give a little more detail on how to link 2 proxies with ssh, or link to a site that does?

    20. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by The+Jonas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "key loggers in the keyboard"

      Something similar to this: KeyGhost

    21. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      All you need to do is tunnel a local port over the ssh connection to a remote proxy.

      For example, you could forward local port 8888 to a remote SOCKS server (port 1080 is SOCKS) like so:

      ssh -L 8888:some-anon-proxy.com:1080 ssh-user@ssh-host

      That forwards port 8888 on your machine to some-anon-proxy.com port 1080 via the ssh tunnel.

      Then set your browser to use localhost port 8888 as the SOCKS proxy.

      Note that most SOCKS connections still do DNS from your local machine so you need to protect that by some method. To do that you either need to use SOCKS 4a (I think), use a non-SOCKS proxy (like HTTP proxy), or use a local proxy like privoxy that itself fowards to another proxy via the SSH tunnel.

      And there is always Tor.

    22. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by gg3po · · Score: 1

      I would suspect that a totalitarian regime could make running a freenet node illegal and then, regardless of whether they found out what you were doing with it, mistreat you (torture, execute, etc.) for that alone.

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    23. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 4, Informative

      The command is:

      ssh -L proxyport:proxyIP:proxyport sshServerIP

      for example:
      ssh -L 8000:lvsweb.lasvegasstock.com:8000 shell.frogstar.com

      Note that this is not untraceable - especially by the NSA. But other governments will have a difficult time with it.

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      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    24. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is China -- the BIOS keyloggers will come pre-installed in the hardware.

    25. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hardware Keyloggers would most certainly still work with Knoppix. For $50-$60 you can get a decent sized very inconspicuous looking keylogger (it looks like a keyboard adapter)

    26. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by MKalus · · Score: 1
      Do you know what most people do when a security camera goes blank? That's right, they send security over to check it out.


      Not true, when I shoot a camear in as Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell I can move through the area without anybody noticing!
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      If you want to e-mail me, use my PGP Key.
    27. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by led_belly · · Score: 0

      Unless the logger is hardware (keyghost.com).

    28. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by TerminaMorte · · Score: 1

      Keyloggers do not work against you, because you are booting from known media.

      Unless they have physical keyloggers hooked onto the keyboard, of course.

    29. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by xiando · · Score: 1

      I get 1-4. But how in the world would that increase my shareholder value? (Unless you by friend mean provider who is payd for a customer to set it up, obviously). Explain 5, please, I'd like more of 6 (in every way that can be read).

    30. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by GuidoW · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They (the freenet devs) are currently working on making it possible to run freenet as a large-scale darknet. That means it will be very hard to impossible to find out whether a given host is a node or not or even get an incomplete list of nodes.

      At least that's the idea. As far as I can see, the most obvious result of their current course of development will probably be that the vast majority of people, even those in "free" countries, will not be able to use freenet at all.

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      If it's so secret, then how come I've never heard of it?
    31. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by SavvyPlayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only trouble with freenet is that a very large portion of its userbase uses it for what most thinking-people consider distribution of immoral material. Unlike the Internet at large, by virtue of participating in the freenet you help propgate this material -- whether or not you choose to ignore it. If you are, say, a dissident with religious convictions, much of the material on freenet will offend you greatly.

    32. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Jack+Taylor · · Score: 4, Informative

      Knoppix stores everything in RAM

      Not entirely true. Knoppix searches for and uses existing unix swap partitions. To stop it doing this you should pass the 'noswap' option at boot. Look at the Knoppix Cheat Codes page for evidence, and for other boot options.

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      One good turn - gets all the covers.
    33. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      > Keyloggers do not work against you, because you are booting from known media.
      no bios hack required, just put the logger in the keyboard, but logging a usb mouse, without bios...

      Add a cgi web keyboard, so you can type with mouse movements and clicks, if they can get to your keyboard app, they would have a hard time with just a key logger

      simplier would be add a keyboard overlay, and a sed script on the sshd computer, wouldn't take long to decrypt, but at least a plain text keyword search of all download keyboards wouldn't trigger on your text.

    34. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Jack+Taylor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When done (or if the government busts in!), reboot your computer - no traces left.

      I'd be extra paranoid and make sure to power off the computer, not just reboot it, to be sure all the RAM is reset. If they're super-cunning they could salvage incriminating data from it.

      You could also go one step further on the keylogger protection and have your own USB keyboard that you carry around with you. Keylog that! :D Or even just buying a keyboard that you can't take apart might work. Have a look at this and this for ideas.

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      One good turn - gets all the covers.
    35. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, Freenet became a dead project about a year or 2 ago. I ran it off and on between 2000 (when it was started) and last year, and it's always been extremely questionable as to whether data would be retrievable or not, let alone retrievable *quickly*.

      As of the spring of last year or so, Freenet had ceased to reliably retrieve pretty much any data at all, so I gave up on it (again).

      Sadly, Freenet died under the weight of its own insane complexity and the inherently low performance of Java with which it was written.

      There was also Entropy ( http://entropy.stop1984.com/ ), written in C and much faster than Freenet (though less secure), but development on that stopped sometime last year as well. At present, I know of no project which offers the following features:

      * encrypted, plausibly-deniable data store (basically, an encrypted filesystem contained within files on your HDD)
      * encrypted network traffic
      * routing of requested data through multiple nodes (i.e. proxying)

      ...as Freenet and Entropy had, effectively creating a second Internet... Some of the Entropy developers, IIRC, moved to I2P ( www.i2p.net ), however, but I2P seemingly only does traffic encryption and routing, not data storage and searching as well...

    36. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Woy · · Score: 1

      There are hardware keyloggers that would get you killed in such a case. Also the PC hardware may have been manipulated in infinite ways.

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      "If God created us in his own image we have more than reciprocated." - Voltaire
    37. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you use linux or
      a BSD + a Sun Keyboard that might do the trick
      as I don't believe key loggers exist for Sun
      keyboards...

    38. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      But who the hell likes to wait 10 minutes for a web page to load?

      IIRC there's a tool out there that's kinda a P2P proxying tool...

      Only problem is that stuff will go through your box too...

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    39. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so...

      switch the keyboard layout to dvorak - I actually wonder how this would show up in a hardware keylogger :)

    40. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Keylog that!

      Easy. Install the keyboard logging device inside the computer chassis inline with the PS/2 port or USB ports. Maybe even build the keyboard logging device right into the motherboard -- covertly of course. Or require the use of a "state approved" BIOS as another poster alluded to.

      You should never be too sure of yourself when it comes to security. If a man can build something, another man can always destroy or compromise that something.

      Next . . .

    41. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by cranktheguy · · Score: 1

      why use a keyboard? there are onscreen keyboards it you dont mind typing fast...

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      yeah, that's about it
    42. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Jack+Taylor · · Score: 1

      Hmm, good point - but this is becoming less and less likely to be attempted in real life. Maybe you leave a keyboard in your apartment that is easily keyloggable to throw them off the scent, and use your safe one only for dissident activities. Maybe you could hack together a special keyboard adapter for a serial port, or connect it to the motherboard by some other method.

      I have to admit that the idea of a state-mandated BIOS scares me, but I'm sure that there are ways of preventing it. Not that it would be very likely to happen - I think the other poster is probably right in saying that only the NSA would bother to go that far.

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      One good turn - gets all the covers.
    43. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Dolda2000 · · Score: 1
      Keyloggers do not work against you, because you are booting from known media. (On the other hand, if the NSA REALLY wants you, they will hack your bios - but no one else is probably that anal).
      Maybe keyloggers won't work, but TEMPEST surveillance most likely will.
    44. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You guys are so close yet so far away. Tor is great, use that. If you have multiple shells then here is something nice you can do with them:

      ssh -N -L 2200:shell1.com:22 username@shell2.com
      ssh -D 1123 -p 2200 username@localhost

      Here's what happens with these two commands..

      First line you log into shell2.com and forward through shell1.com. If you had not specified -N then you would have a command prompt at shell1.com

      Second line, You're connecting that nice forwarded connection you setup through localhost on port 2200 through shell2 to shell1 and also opening a dynamic socks4 proxy to run on shell1.com.

      All you big sillies talking about port forwarding have missed the point.. Unless there is a squid or tinyproxy setup at your endpoint there is nowhere for your forwarded traffic to go.. ssh -D solves that problem. Simply a matter of changing firefox or whatever app to talk on port 1123, socks4, localhost.

      Please keep in mind, selective use of -N is very helpful for you, the user, to keep as low a profile on the systems you're using for this purpose. Most kiddiots running free shell services have various arbitrary restrictions concerning what can/cannot be run on their super l33t shells. Most people (every single person in this thread it seems) has no clue of ssh's dynamic socks proxying. If you are a clueless admin and would like to prevent your bandwidth from being used in this way, kindly change AllowTcpForwarding NO in your sshd_config and restart sshd.

      Also remember Privoxy is socks4a compatible. ssh's -D is socks4 compatible. Don't waste your time trying to use Privoxy with ssh -D. It won't work.

      With the above example You're going to have a single ssh process on shell2.com with no shell. The admin(s) of that server will only be able to tell from where you are coming and to where you are going. They cannot decifer the contents of your session. The endpoint only can see your traffic but they cannot see your originating host. Using services that do not log ssh connections are a major benefit in this situation. Also, the -N makes sure you only have 1 instance of your shell of choice running on your endpoint. Nice, low profile.

      You can use ssh -D with 1 shell, 2 shells, 3 shells, etc, but each extra hop results in a lot more typing :)

      Here's another thing you could do:
      Get yourself a copy of TinyProxy and install it on a shell in which you have gcc access, run it on a nice high port like 8888..

      Now, you can do traditional port forwarding to a HTTP proxy but.. why bother when you can use -D?

    45. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add a virtual keyboard an you defeat hardware keyloggers as well.

    46. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll bring a "music" CD with a boot image containing the tools I need, virtual keyboard included. :P

    47. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The simple solution is to use a knoppix/ssh combo, WITH a usb keyb. Or if you're that paranoid, how about taking a quick glance around the back of the box to see if it has a ps/2 logger.

    48. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by ramblin+billy · · Score: 1


      The last thing you want to do if you are avoiding the authorities is make them curious. Any behavior that makes your session stand out from the rest of the traffic is likely to attract attention. That would certainly include encrypted packets from an unusual origin. If you could gain access to a network that routinely used encryption, such as a financial service network, you might get away with it for a time. In the main, the best method to avoid attention is to remain below the threshold of official notice. Looking like one of the flock is the best way to keep you out of the wolf's focus. Of course you're still a sheep, and we all know how the food chain works. If the government wants you, they're gonna get you. Your best bet is not letting them realize they want you.

      billy - baaa...baaaa

    49. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by owlstead · · Score: 1

      My internet provider (www.xs4all.nl) has a ssh deamon running on xs4all.nl:80. This makes sure that you can connect to this server, even though only port 80 is allowed. Most of the time this even works with a proxy, since these are not actively checking the protocol used. It takes a small client program (these are very easy to create) to make a socket connection to the proxy. This makes if very easy to create a tunnel to a lovely machine running a BSD shell.

    50. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The keylogger doesn't know that the computer is even being used, though....

    51. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by machineghost · · Score: 0

      Until the camera regenerates 20 (15?) seconds later ;-)

    52. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, tell everyone the cypher key for it...

    53. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by kcelery · · Score: 1

      If you don't want to install any software for keylogging, there are hardware keylogger that holds mega bytes of key strokes.

    54. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by bokane · · Score: 1

      The Freenet site, internet searches for 'freenet,' and pages containing the word 'Freenet' are blocked in China, or at least were in Harbin and Beijing from 2002 to 2004.

    55. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Basically, you must be able to trust everything the information touches before it's encrypted. Anything else is security through obscurity.

      This is one of the motivations behind stuff like LinuxBIOS and the various "open hardware" projects, by the way. ; )

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    56. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by deli_llama · · Score: 1

      The key to making this work is really to find a low-profile co-conspirator in a more freedom-friendly environment. Get basic shell access on an internet connected node that is far beyond the reach of this opessive regime. A dsl connected workstation in Canada, for example, would do just fine.

      Compose from the privacy of your own inconspicuous home. Turn off all cache and save nothing locally. And, of course, tunnel all traffic over a secure connection until its well out of the country. Then use an anonymizing service from there. You dont want an IP address that you connect to directly to be verifiably associated with dissident material.

      Do not use email. Encrypt everything. Store nothing within the country - especially encrypted material or encryption keys. Just the possession of that sort of thing is enough to convince a paranoid Organization that you have something to hide.

      Finally, slip through the cracks. Don't draw attention to yourself. Security through obscurity is the best first line of defense.

    57. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, I don't think that SSH forwarding prevents you from "server in the middle attack" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_middle_at tack). I agree that it is quite secure, but those guys have serious reasons to worry. They are not trying to play silly flash games during working hours and hiding from their boss. They've got a whole damn governement trying to fire up their ass.

      Please, can you remind me when I became paranoid???

    58. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the major pain here is that hardware keyloggers can be installed on the keyboard cable.

      Does anyone know if there's small USB keyboards around? It wouldn't be that difficult to make a small keyboard (something similar to what Nokia Communicator uses, or one of those you can plug into cellphones) with USB plug. If you need to enter anything sensitive, just plug that to the USB hole and off you go. No need to trust that ordinary keyboard...

      The only way to leech that would be stick a keylogger directly on an USB bus. Which gives me an evil idea...

      Next generation keyloggers might look like perfectly ordinary USB hubs that just "happen" to record keypresses - looks and behaves just like ordinary hubs, until you plug them off, flip a switch on the bottom, plug in, and suddenly the system recognizes it as a hub and a storage device, just point your file manager at it and read "keypresses.txt"... =/

    59. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by eco2geek · · Score: 1
      If Knoppix finds a useable Linux swap partition, it will, in fact, use it by default. You can disable this behavior by using the "noswap" cheatcode.

      Quote from "knoppix-cheatcodes.txt": "The "noswap" option is useful for a forensic analysis without touching existing swap partitions."

    60. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      http://www.ucs.co.uk/index.php?pid=2358

      there are lots of flexible keyboards you can rollup and stick in your pocket

      What I'd like to see is a keylogger than you snap aroundthe keyboard cable (like one of those noise filters on laptop power supply cables). Ideally it'd leech the info by its proximity, but i guess you could have it bite into the cable.

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      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    61. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      I like what another poster said - use a graphical keyboard with a mouse controller. To go to the "wearing a tinfoil hat inside a 2 meter thick copper box" level, randomize the character locations. Power off when done, and it is almost unbreakable.

      Of course, if I was the evil government hacker, I would then put something in BIOS that records essentially a VNC-like record of your session (including video output)... but if you cannot trust the computer you are using, this is probably the best you can do! (Such a recording device would at least be conspicuous!)

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      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    62. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Well, the man in the middle attack does not work if you only accept the far sites public key (as in, no trusted chains at all) which you recognize by sight.

      The other way to handle this is to use ssh to port forward the ssh server port, so that the second ssh connection is encoded into the first, and so is unaltered by the evil state. The truely paranoid can do this recursively, so that the connection is an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection through an encrypted connection. That might be fun to try anyway!

      Of course, in general I recommend not doing things that upset governments unless you plan on using deadly force against them (because they will consider revolutionaries as using deadly force against the entity of the government). It is better to change from inside - get into the government and try to make it better, rather than tear down what has been built. Whatever exists, it is probably better than nothing - see Iraq, Afganistan, and Tiananmen square massacre for the pain that must be endured for rapid change.

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      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
    63. Re:And the entire internet is public.. by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      That is an interesting technique, but it leaves a log on the server - a server that the "evil government" knows that you accessed. By port forwarding to an anonymous proxy, you put another link in the chain - and one that you know will not keep records.

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      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
  41. Dear Slashdot, by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I work for an oppressive government's ISP monitoring administration. Do you have any suggestions for proxy websites we should block? Any particular ports we should be examining, or traffic patterns?

    Thanks in advance,
    Elwood P Dowd

    --

    There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
    1. Re:Dear Slashdot, by ediron2 · · Score: 1
      Dear Slashdot,

      I work for an oppressive government's ISP monitoring administration. Do you have any suggestions for proxy websites we should block? Any particular ports we should be examining, or traffic patterns?

      Dear Oppressive Government:

      My phone is digital spread-spectrum. The way it hops around the allocated spectrum, eavesdropping it is a royal bitch. In a neighborhood of these phones, singling out just my phone traffic makes your job worse. Luckily, you'll just need a wiretap.

      I use GAIM and GAIM-ENCRYPTION, because sometimes coworkers and I use it for business reasons (password changes, discussing contract prices or bid status, for work-related meetings or planning). We also talk about other stuff we don't want the boss to eavesdrop on. And we use gaim a *lot* for mundane chit-chat, without bothering to turn off encryption. That's a lot of irrelevant traffic that you'll need to sort thru, once you can decrypt my communication.

      I use a digital cellphone sometimes. Mine's GSM... I think. Other times, I borrow one from someone for a few minutes. Minutes have gotten cheap enough, even strangers don't mind loaning you a phone for a minute or two. If minutes are expensive in your country, I bet folks do like we used to, where you just give someone a buck or two after borrowing their phone. If it helps, I can try to get you a list of my friends' numbers. I doubt it will. And I have no idea how you'll track down my calls from strangers' phones. They're like roaming phone booths.

      Friends and I like to exchange movies via bittorrent. Sometimes, I wait days for a gig-size download, only to find that I don't have the right codec, or the picture quality sucks. Last time I checked Azureus, I was at 65 gigs of data transferred. Have at the analysis of that stuff, with my blessings, considering the near-random packet storm resultant from using bittorrent. If you get usable data out of 'em, can you drop me a note and tell me where I download the more obscure codecs?

      A friend uses Skype to talk to his family in Venezuela. Lots. I'm sure that, given the price of international calls to tinpot dictatorships like yours, everyone in your country has heard of Skype or knows someone with relatives abroad that uses it. This friend of mine also had a girlfriend that he'd talk an hour a night with (using Skype), and they even sometimes set up videochats via some other mechanism. I wonder how much difficulty you'll have dsigning efficient ways of tracking stuff like pictures or pages held up for a few moments within a videochat. Even harder would be detecting hand signals or other codes. I hear India is taking in a lot of outsourcing... maybe they can get you roomsful of trained experts to eavesdrop all this crap.

      You'll also want to watch for those nifty new camera cellphones and TXT'ing and blackberrys, iPods and handheld games and beaming and wifi and bluetooth. Then there's DVD-R's and cheap SD cards that can be passed along via old-fashioned means. Never underestimate the postal service, covert drops, or good-ol' brush-pass techniques.

      I'm sure there's more. Please let me know when you have surveilance techniques worked out for this stuff, and I'll think of a few more.

      Throughout this, knowing that I'm a dissident will be your only (thin) hope. Heaven help you if underground cells or other means are used to spread a counter-message anonymously.

      (tongue-in-cheek aside, Elwood, the situation is (luckily) getting unsurveilable faster than governments can control it. In 15 years, we've gotten so far beyond the heavy use of faxes during China's Tiananmen Incident as an unmonitorable mechanism for spreading news or messages to organize dissent: search AAR's report for 'Faxes Save Lives' for a pithy paragraph on the state of surveilance there.)
  42. Two Words by shaze · · Score: 1

    Anonymous PROXY!!! "Cunning Stunt"

  43. Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haha. All you complaining about the US, I'd bet have never actually lived under a repressive regime. Bet you don't know what real slavery feels like either. Or ethnic cleansing. Just sit home in front of the TV, and think you know what the real world is like.

    1. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      And where are you from, that you suffer from all of these things, yet still manage to have access to the internet to post your enlightening thoughts to /.?

    2. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can see that deep thinking isn't a slashdot trait. You're assuming that the two have to be simutaneous events for my post to be illegitimate. You're also assuming that what's happening in the US constitutes an oppressive regime. When the fact is that the majority of people in the US have never actually been exposed to a real repressive regime, and therefore have no baseline to compare. In other words, move to a real repressive regime, and maybe you Americans will realize just how good you have it.

    3. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by geminidomino · · Score: 0

      No, effective persuasive writing isn't one of YOUR traits. You displayed a wonderful tone of knowing exactly what you were talking about, which means, by your own logic, that you HAVE been exposed to such a regime (otherwise, like "Americans", you have no baseline to compare.)

      Contrary to widely-held belief, there are Americans who study history and realize that governments don't just wake up one morning and decide they are going to be tyrannical from then on.

      We're not there yet, but we're well on the path.

    4. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Contrary to widely-held belief, there are Americans who study history and realize that governments don't just wake up one morning and decide they are going to be tyrannical from then on."

      History is one thing. Living it is another thing entirely. However "And where are you from, that you suffer from all of these things, yet still manage to have access to the internet to post your enlightening thoughts to /.?" your post implied that because I was *somehow* posting to the internet, that I didn't know what a repressive regime was. I was pointing out that most Americans don't really know what *repression* means, except in some really vague, all encompessing manner. Posting to the internet isn't a sure sign of me not knowing what I'm talking about, which you implied I was. And yes I think you Americans have it better than you think you do, and a lot of your complaints appear to be just spoiled children whining.

    5. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      You're still not answering the question. Where are you posting from that you have a baseline for comparison, that you accuse Americans of lacking?

    6. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You're still not answering the question. Where are you posting from that you have a baseline for comparison, that you accuse Americans of lacking?"

      You still don't get it do you? Were I'm posting from, has little to do with weither I've had experience with repressive regimes.

      It only has relevence so far as me letting others know about it.

    7. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep in mind that most Americans don't feel they are under an oppressive regime. It's just the children that post on Slashdot.

    8. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Were I'm posting from, has little to do with weither I've had experience with repressive regimes.

      Actually, no, that's not true. If Americans can't know about it without having experienced it, then neither can you. Your logic, not mine.

      You are posting as an AC and performing in typical AC fashion (ad homming those who question you, avoiding any real answers, etc.)

      All I asked is that you back up your assertion. "Because I said so" isn't going to cut it. What reason do I, or anyone else, have to beleive you aren't just talking out of your hindparts like so many other ACs do on a minutely basis?

    9. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Actually, no, that's not true. If Americans can't know about it without having experienced it, then neither can you. Your logic, not mine."

      Apparently you're a little slow, so I'll point it out.

      I'm an immigrant from a repressive regime to the US.

      Now let's look at your original comment, which you seem to be avoiding.

      "And where are you from, that you suffer from all of these things, yet still manage to have access to the internet to post your enlightening thoughts to /.?"

      To rephrase your statement. "What repressive regime are you presently posting from that's allowing you to post your (*snide tone*) 'enlightened thoughts' to /.?".

      My point has always been that my present geographic location has nothing to do with the validity of my comments about repressive regimes. But it does give weight to my commentary about Americans. Since I've experienced both.

    10. Re:Apparently you are in the US-and are safe. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. I'll admit that I didn't allow for the possibility of emigration. So the question, rephrased, still stands: What regime did you leave to come to the US?

  44. AK-47 by phoenix42 · · Score: 1

    I recommend the Ak-47 as the tool for people in oppressive regimes.

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    forty-two
    1. Re:AK-47 by essreenim · · Score: 0
      I would also like to endorse this product. The AK can be loaded wth dum-dum shells which are better at shattering Networking equipment like routers and switches. The "AK" is also notoriously difficult to break and fires a clean shot at long range..heheh ..jk. But realy - mod parent up. If things are really that bad, isn't it time for revolution in said country..

    2. Re:AK-47 by Ironsides · · Score: 1

      I recommend the Ak-47 as the tool for people in oppressive regimes.

      But wouldn't the first thing an oppresive regime do is enact gun control to keep people from owning guns? If the people can not own guns, the people can not overthrow the government.

      1 million people walking past parliament is a protest. 1 million (with guns) walking past is a revolution. (Thanks to Witty Quotes)

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    3. Re:AK-47 by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      Heh, though with modern military technology, even guns cannot overthrow governments. I don't think Vegas would be giving the odds to a group of people with shotguns versus a tank, a fighter jet, and some Tomahawk cruise missiles.....

    4. Re:AK-47 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Iraqi insurgents seem to be doing ok.. imagine insurgencies in NY, Washington, LA, SF, etc.

      If the US turned into a shit hole like Iraq, how long would the gov't stand?

    5. Re:AK-47 by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      Honestly the reasons the Iraqis are doing OK is because the US doesn't just blast everything it sees. If the government felt it's very existence being threatened, there are ways to get compliance. For instance, for every soldier that dies you kill 10 civillians. You also reward stool pigeons. Pretty soon support for the fighting force is going to fall apart.

  45. Igpay Atinlay by nekoniku · · Score: 4, Funny

    Olvesay the oblempray.

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    "It's a wonderful idea. But it doesn't work." -- Tad Danielewski
    1. Re:Igpay Atinlay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reasonably Adequate Privacy, data obfuscation for the masses.

    2. Re:Igpay Atinlay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, you need to state what the encryption is before you use it. If you have to break it to read it, then so can the evil restrictive government

  46. MOD PARENT DOWN FOR BLATENT LYING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A stalker that I had earlier this year was easily located via tracking his IP and figuring out which coffee shops and libraries he was using.

    Bullshit. Nobody is going to believe that you had a stalker, garcia. You ain't anything special.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN FOR BLATENT LYING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I helped Aaron help that guy track that other guy down. It's not bullshit.

      -Aanon

    2. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN FOR BLATENT LYING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I helped the AC that helped Aaron help that guy scratch garcia's balls. Garcia's balls isn't bullshit (though they are tiny).

  47. location please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes."

    Where, in the U.S.A., exactly?

  48. I ain't sayin' by NoDough · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'm not sure that I want to share such information with someone who uses the Arabic spelling of Jehovah in their email address.

    1. Re:I ain't sayin' by NoDough · · Score: 1

      Flamebait or not, it's the truth.

    2. Re:I ain't sayin' by DocMurphy · · Score: 1

      If that is the only misdirection you encountered in the post, then you didn't look very closely

    3. Re:I ain't sayin' by NoDough · · Score: 1

      Wasn't lookin' to write too much.

      I'm curious. Why bait the forum this way?

    4. Re:I ain't sayin' by DocMurphy · · Score: 1

      I really am trying to learn. The "bait" as you say it is just "noise" to confuse or mislead anyone with bad motives who might try to learn more about me by reading between the lines - bunny trails for those who would do harm, ignored by those who offer real help.

  49. Under a repressive regime... by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime...

    Which oppressive regime, the RIAA or MPAA?

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    -- If god wanted me to have a sig, he'd have given me a sense of humor.
    1. Re:Under a repressive regime... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      Which oppressive regime, the RIAA or MPAA?

      half seriously, I am not sure which to fear the most: my own government or the entertainment industry.

      _are_ there any good guys left, anymore?

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      "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
  50. Steganography by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 1



    I'm surprised I haven't seen a mention of steganography yet in this discussion.

    Properly implemented, stego can be used quite effectively to communicate secretly on the Internet.

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    1. Re:Steganography by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 1



      Here's another exanple of a secure communications channel on the Internet.

      SpamMimic

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    2. Re:Steganography by gg3po · · Score: 1

      That's awesome! Too bad these guys don't seem to want to release the source code. The problem with having to go to their site is that it would raise suspicion to be connecting to such a website from within an oppressive regime.

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  51. m$ onscreen keyboard by ITchix0r · · Score: 1

    they can't keylog clicks

    1. Re:m$ onscreen keyboard by gg3po · · Score: 1

      They could have a screenshot logger. That's why you need to boot your own media, not use M$ stuff.

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  52. great anonymity tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This are so far some of the best anonymity tools:

    Tor: http://tor.freehaven.net/
    Freenet: http://freenet.sourceforge.net/

    And, yes, we still need some smart guy/girl to come up with an even better anonymity software.

  53. Keep the suggestions coming by Kushy · · Score: 1

    At this rate with the yahoo's in office, we will be looking to do this exact same thing in the United States soon. This will be a police state with the secret MPAA and the RIAA double private secret police.

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    "The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein," - Joe Theisman
  54. MetroPipe by masukomi · · Score: 1

    http://www.metropipe.net/

    although as someone previously mentioned, any encrypted traffic will make you suspect

  55. Couldn't this guy do what all of us do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And just google his question?

  56. Interweb... by Robotron23 · · Score: 0

    In my opinion, the Internet is largely inclined towards Democracy and Democratic ideals, because it originated from the USA, and was invented by Al Gore!

    Seriously though, the only real danger of having your identity exploited in a serious manner, coupled with a negative consequence, is when corporations get hold of your personal details...So ironically the finest place to have the internet identity protection wise is in China or another Communist regime - there are simply a lot less corporations checking up on you.

    And the State? Well as we can deduce from the recent RealID scheme, are close to having all the information they'll ever need for us plebs.

  57. Open wifi networks by tripie · · Score: 1

    Just get a laptop and leech off other peoples internet connection, if its anything like the US you wont have to walk far to find an open linksys router. Or you could set up a remote system ONLY for your family and encrypt the traffic.

  58. Key logging by XPoHuK · · Score: 1

    Can they use their own computers in the inet Cafe?

  59. Webbrowsing from anywhere... by Ruede · · Score: 1

    something like a webbrowser in your webbrowser...
    but there will be still the problem of banned ips etc...

    maby p2p webbrowsing with dynamic ips (and dyndns)or so...

  60. Re:Apparently you are in the US by PaxTech · · Score: 0, Troll

    Sounds like you're in the US, correct?

    Of course he is. Most of the rest of the civilized world doesn't care at all about people trapped in oppressive regimes. In fact, they'll stonewall you in the UN if you try to do anything about an oppresive regime, and don't mention the word genocide, they've never heard of it.

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  61. There is no point by ahdeoz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is no point in being a dissident if you choose to remain anonymous. How is anyone supposed to know what your motives are if they don't know who you are. And if you really care about the things you say, then you should be willing to take a stand for it. Any anonymous "dissention" is on par with raving on usenet and somewhere beneath private grumblings. Anonymous action, yes, can produce results. But anonymous words aren't worth the electrons they're displayed with.

    1. Re:There is no point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of dissidents in exile need to get their news from the inside.

      Fact is, public terminals are just out, since a keylogger gets you before any circumvention. If you're already known to be a dissident of some kind, your home PC is probably out too. This leaves low-tech. Face to face, payphones, that sort of thing.

    2. Re:There is no point by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful
      There is no point in being a dissident if you choose to remain anonymous. How is anyone supposed to know what your motives are if they don't know who you are. And if you really care about the things you say, then you should be willing to take a stand for it.

      Spoken like a true Westerner I'm thinking.

      In countries where you can stand up and say your government is a bunch of idiots, there is no harm in not being anonymous.

      But if this can lead to prison, death, torture, disappearance, or all sorts of ahem inconvenience cough, then anonymity is what you want.

      What good is saying "if you have anything of value to say, be public about it" if everyone is eventually dead and too afraid to say anything?

      Sometimes just making sure someone hears the words is important. As is making sure those who need to say 'em are alive to keep saying 'em. Deciding that anything that can't be said out in the open isn't worth saying is probably a real disservice to peoples who absolutely cannot do that.

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    3. Re:There is no point by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      if everyone is eventually dead and too afraid to say anything?

      These states are mutually exclusive. Someone can be dead, and someone can be too afraid to say anything, but someone cannot be both.

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      I am disrespectful to dirt! Can you see that I am serious?!
    4. Re:There is no point by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      These states are mutually exclusive. Someone can be dead, and someone can be too afraid to say anything, but someone cannot be both.

      s/and/or/g and then go get bent. =)
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      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    5. Re:There is no point by ahdeoz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      But if you aren't willing to stand behind your words, what do they mean? You're just some kook on the internet, and you obviously don't care enough about what you're saying to risk prison, death, torture, disappeance, or *ahem* anything at all.

      If everyone is already dead, dissent isn't going to do you any good anyway.

      Name one example where "just hearing the words" was important. I'll give you some: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Far left and right wing kooks in the US. But you know what? All that anonymous preaching didn't do a lick of good.

      Sure, more kooks decided the Jews were subhuman, kulaks were out to get them, the black helicopters of the UN were spying on them, and the WTO was the source of all evil, but compare all that whispering innuendo to Thoreau, Gandhi, or Rambo (First Blood part 2.)

      Oscar Schindler didn't save a single Jew. That's right. They were saved by Allied soldiers. While he might have delayed the extermination of a few to the point when Americans and Russians saved them, those were his actions, he did nothing to stop it. When one of his friends or workers' number was up, he said goodbye and kept his mouth shut. Maybe what he did was of better use than going to the gas chamber in their stead, but it wasn't dissidence.

      No anonymous coward ever changed things for the good by not standing by his words.

    6. Re:There is no point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is value in remaining anonymous, largely by getting the word out to the "free world" that something horrible is happening where you are.

      In China and other repressive totalitarian regimes like North Korea, there's no point in being vocal in public. You'll be arrested in minutes, and there's no free media to raise a ruckus on your behalf.

      You can get the word out and have others pressure these regimes to change.

      Another key point you're missing is that there already ARE thousands of dissidents sitting in jail, tortured, around the world. Often the only thing that kept them alive is that word got out and organizations like Amnesty or Human Rights Watch kept shining a light on them to make sure that these regimes will have to account eventually for their violations of human rights.

    7. Re:There is no point by FhnuZoag · · Score: 1

      Now you are just being silly.

      Much information can be useful, despite an anonymous source. For example, a simple message of PLEASE LOOK HERE can be of vital importance. It's not neccessary to know who said it. If the atrocity, the coverup, or the WMD is clearly visible, then the act of drawing attention is itself essential, even if it only tells the outside observer where to look.

    8. Re:There is no point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any anonymous "dissention" is on par with raving on usenet and somewhere beneath private grumblings.

      Didn't the founders of the USA remain anonymous until the Declaration of Independence?

      I think you are confusing dissidence with civil disobedience (and authentication with credibility).

    9. Re:There is no point by danila · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Spoken like a true Westerner too.

      In countries where you can stand up and say your government is a bunch of idiots, there is no harm in not being anonymous.

      You can say that the "government is a bunch of idiots", but dissidents don't do just that. How about you state that you believe USA should be a communist state and you will work to make this happen, even if that involves breaking local laws. I am sure you will soon be sitting in a comfortable prison cell and will be discussing your ideas with a friendly Commettee^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HDepartment of State^H^H^H^H^HHomeland Security officer.

      But if this can lead to prison, death, torture, disappearance, or all sorts of ahem inconvenience cough, then anonymity is what you want.

      Please show me the country where someone was "inconvenienced" for saying that his "government is a bunch of idiots" or even for disagreeing with its policies. Dissidents actively work to destroy the social order and deserve what they get.

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      Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
    10. Re:There is no point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazi Germany. Anyone who spoke out against the concentration camps would end up the subject of them.

  62. Ever hear of Carnivore? by ianscot · · Score: 1

    Try reading the book "Persepolis." Easy graphic novel, about a young woman from Iran -- you'll finish it in a night. It's absurd, you're right, but not that funny.

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    "Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
  63. Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fscking hilarious.

  64. Hmmmmm.... by MrRoarkeLovesTattoo · · Score: 1

    Are you in Detroit? Just curious

    1. Re:Hmmmmm.... by DocMurphy · · Score: 1

      sometimes

  65. One Man's Villan is Another's Man's Hero by geoaxis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How can one make sure that a perfect system will not be used by terrorists and human smugglers, child pornographers to hide their activities. This may be classified as "choose between the two devils"

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    geoaxis
  66. home computer by essreenim · · Score: 0
    only way to be sure. You can't trust cafes ..no amtter what in an oppressive regime. Best to import parts from foreign country too!! Ypu're own DRM'd input device might enev help - encrypted keystrokes...if you want to be really paranoid... If you really are ain that kind of oppression though, I suggest you find a good AK47 ..

  67. Uhhhhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SSH everything, pgp any and all email. If you're looking to stop anyone from seeing what sites you're visiting, I suppose you could try using some kind of local / remote proxy tunneled through SSH. Set up a box at your home to tunnel all http / https requests to a remote box in a secure (non-monitored) location. There are plenty of ISP's in the USA that do not monitor anything.

    If you wanted to disguise everything, simply set up an encrypted tunnel to one of the aforementioned friends, and pipe PPP through it, and use that as your gateway. Might be a good bit slow(er) than using local access, but if it saves you from political opression... Google for ssl tunnel, and the first link listed is http://www.stunnel.org/

    Don't forget the obligatory tin foil hats.

  68. i2p by gremlins · · Score: 1

    i2p is exactly what you are looking for. However it is still in a very very early stage of development.

    Once it is done though you will be able to do everything on the internet anonymously, like download television torrents

    So to speed things up some of you Java developers should volunteer.

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    just because your a schizophrenic doesn't mean people arn't really out to get you
  69. Obviously in the U.S. by Dan667 · · Score: 0, Troll

    You and your "terrorists" are obviously in the U.S. So the answer is no. Please report to the Dept. of Homeland Security for re-education.

  70. A Few ideas..... by mikejz84 · · Score: 1

    1) Satellite Phones: Use an Iridium phone while driving around to avoid location. They are very slow, but should work find for text based sites--assuming you download them for latter reading. 2) USB WiFi adapters. In the Internet Cafe, quietly slip a Usb Wifi adapter onto the pc and activiate internet sharing. That way you can park along side the cafe and surf, without anyone know who you really are. 3) Hidding information in Jpegs. Have an outsider hide the information in harmless seeming websites. Does the county restrict satellite dishs? If not there might be some options with Ku band internet access 1/2 way or satellite data services.

    1. Re:A Few ideas..... by JohnnyKlunk · · Score: 1

      Hey, great idea. I'll bet everyone in China, Africa and the oppressive parts of the middle east have this kind of technology.

      Next time I'm in China I'll get everyone to buy themselves some american-owned sat-phone and usb wifi through a satellite dish uplink to their GWB approved anti-terrrrrist network.

      You'd be amazed how commomn that technology is on a $4/day salary.

    2. Re:A Few ideas..... by mikejz84 · · Score: 1

      Um...First the auther indicates that most the people he is dealing with already have an internet connection and a home PC. Not exactly poor in my book. Second, if it is China--guess what: Where do you think all the sat phone/wifi stuff is made??? I'm willing to get that planty of it 'falls off the truck'.

    3. Re:A Few ideas..... by The+Conductor · · Score: 1
      I don't own a satphone myself to know for sure, but I do work at a place that supplies a component for them. I think satphones are made in the US. The production volumes are too low for offshore factories to make sense.

      You can rent them for $100 a week or less. Airtime is still pretty steep though, so this method would probably limited to the key exchange role of a larger cryptosystem.

  71. Pigeons by MrRoarkeLovesTattoo · · Score: 1

    Tie little notes to pigeons and send them on their way! Ah, damn, it shit on the note again!

  72. Dissidents, terrorists, what's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Are YOU soft on terrorism?

    1. Re:Dissidents, terrorists, what's the difference? by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 0, Troll

      Dissidents/rebels oppose governments not allied with the US. Terrorists are the opposite.

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      "I only speak the truth"
      Karma: null(Mostly affected by an unassigned variable)
  73. Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    DocMurphy you are an idiot. You are talking about working with people to commit treason against oppressive regimes. Maybe you don't understand what an oppressive regime actually is or something but here is a hint: they don't have and problems killing people. You are not only proposing to work with these people across international lines but then you post a question to slashdot about how to help them. Assuming you think you are serious and not just posting the question to generate responses, do you even have a fucking clues how something like this would actually work. You are not going up against your high school typing teacher here. Not only do virtually all regimes have computers they also have people that know how to use them. If you don't know this stuff you are going to get these people killed and really run the risk of getting yourself killed in the process (or imprisoned depending on US geopolitical concerns. If you have to ask slashdot and expect a bunch of pasty teenages reading the anarchist cookbook to give you advice on assisting an insurgency you have no business doing this. You don't think that suggesting they use some sort of encryption from their internet cafes isnt going to get them killed. Wouldn't an oppresive regime monitor communications coming out of an internet cafe? Please do not continue to try this. Giving any advice like this is akin to leading a children's crusade and every baron along the way is going to fuck you in the ass and all your children are going to get killed. You really need to learn how things work first in international smuggling of goods and information and being a technical advisor to an insurgency you are not part of is no fucking place for some stupid idealistic kid. You will, in all likely hood, end up in jail for this if you are lucky. Really, they will probably just kill you.

    1. Re:Seriously by DocMurphy · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the warning... I'm happy to see how you took my question and the assumptions everyone has made about who I am, what I'm, etc.

  74. Use HTTHost/HTTPort combination by unk1911 · · Score: 1

    I have written an extensive article on how to set up HTTHost + HTTPort (in conjunction with VNC, putty, and SSHd) on client/server side to be able to get past a restrictive firewall. I have tested this set up successfully.

    Here is a link

  75. dissidents ... by bemis · · Score: 1

    http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=786

    I don't think BitTorrent sites qualify as "dissidents" exactly.
    bemis

  76. We can all help out by Pope+Benedict+XVI · · Score: 1
    We can all help out by encrypting everything as much as possible. If privacy via encryption becomes the norm then it will be harder for corp^H^H^H^Hgovernments to take it away. Virtually every mail client (even web based) now has a gpg or pgp plugin. So let's start spreading the paranoia!

    BTW, if you really can't be bothered with a key but you still want to protect yourself from the IT department, then you can use gmail: log in with https and the connection remains in https.

  77. Manually obfuscated urls? by slthytove · · Score: 1
    Regarding the fear of keyloggers being used in Internet cafes and the like - would it be worth cheaply obfuscasting the URLs while typing them in, by using a combination of mouse and keystrokes to form it? I.e., instead of typing in "http://rebelsite.org", type it in backwards, using the cursor keys after each character, or in some random order, and just adjust the position of the cursor using the mouse and/or keyboard.

    Although, to refute my own suggestion, this doesn't get rid of the problem that there are most likely monitors running at a higher level, in which case they're going to know at least WHERE you're going no matter what. But if the only fear is keyloggers, it seems like those would be simple enough to work around...

    1. Re:Manually obfuscated urls? by edforth · · Score: 1

      That's an interesting idea.... just find an innocent site that's an anagram of the site you want, using the mouse to input it correctly Very clever, (but would only fool a keylogger, if the regime is monitoring traffic, you're out of luck)

  78. Annonymous by tres3 · · Score: 1

    Knoppix! Or any other bootable CD will get past any keystroke loggers that are not hardware based.

  79. Bingo by essreenim · · Score: 0
    I agree 100 %. Im sorry I overlooked it. It's not just jpg.s etc. but has good old cold war style applications. Imagine a tatoo on your arm with with an encoded message. Thats right .. I'm crazy too.. ; )..

  80. Knoppix by tpconcannon · · Score: 1

    When I want almost total anonymity I use Knoppix. Granted, you must have access to the CD drive, and the computer must have a fair amount of memory, it is almost 100% secure. There are many different flavors of knoppix out there, even the CIA has its own distro.

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    I found the "Any" key.
  81. Tor-Over-Steganography by freality · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Neat idea.. perhaps there should be a Tor-Over-Steganography platform, to prevent the identification of Tor usage or some other method of information hiding. Otherwise, a regime can just shut down Tor(-ish) traffic.

    I guess the best way to get your message through the iron (red?) curtain is to piggy-back it on whatever the highest-volume public information stream is. That way the baddies would have to shut down all of that traffic and risk a large public pushback.

    In the case of China, I hate to say it, but if it's true that a lot of spam is outbound from their country, that would be an ideal place to hide information. Lots of spam has randomly generated text, so altering the frequency of that text in a fashion known only to sender and receiver could be used to encode an information channel, over which you could run a simple unicast stream, or something more decentralized, like TOR.

    1. Re:Tor-Over-Steganography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, that's a pretty good idea! If someone writes a utility that hides data transmission in spam, wouldn't the Chinese government have to act to filter spam from the rest of the world?

      Free spam blocking from source!

    2. Re:Tor-Over-Steganography by Confessed+Geek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hmm... I wonder how much of the random chinese spam IS coded disident info. Its like hiding your gold in a wheelbarrow full of manure. It would be almost imposible to find the one intended recpient in the midst of a millian nigerian scam letters. I guess a better analogy would be the classic spy cliche of putting a secret message in the classifieds.

    3. Re:Tor-Over-Steganography by ta0 · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's already going on.
      Maybe that's what the "randomly generated text" in spam actually is.
      Maybe you just blew someone's cover.
      Tonight, someone could be taking a bullet in the brain because you had to be so SMART!

    4. Re:Tor-Over-Steganography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An old slashdot article - can't be bothered digging it up - on a study analysing the usages of spam found that this is already happening for a secondary communciation channel for the slightly shadier IRC channels. So the random stuff might have some meaning already.

  82. Tinfoil Hat Linux by c0l0 · · Score: 1

    There this neat little one-floppy-distro, Tinfoil Hat Linux (The site seems down @tm, so here's the Google Cache Version of it). Though it comes without networking support, due to its very paranoid approach to guarantee security. Beefed up with the things your mates need, they'd be virtually immune to (hardware) keyloggers - freeing their way to a on the box outside via ssh or something like that.

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    YTARY!
  83. Use steganography by utexaspunk · · Score: 1

    Just speak in code that makes your communications look banal.

    Hey, Joe what's up? I'm walking my dog in the park tomorrow at noon...

    1. Re:Use steganography by essreenim · · Score: 0
      Yep, then just throw in a few oscar delta charlies and a

      "the eagle has landed, over, the EAGLE HAS LANDED".

      They'll be knocking on your door promptly with gang-rape equipment

    2. Re:Use steganography by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Make sure to speak in italics to ensure that the message is received.

      Oh, wait.

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      I currently have no clever signature witicism to add here.
  84. Arrogance of the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you promote such behavior? If someone in another country encouraged a US citizen to formulate plans to overthrow the government, then would the US citizen be a terrorist? Just because you disagree with their laws doesn't mean you should find ways to enable them to break the laws.

    1. Re:Arrogance of the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. In case you haven't noticed, nearly everyone is considered a terrorist by the U.S. government now.

      2. I'm all for people wanting to overthrow the U.S. government. It's unjust and corrupt, and a tyrant is in control of it. (No, not Bush. The majority.)

  85. ignoramUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haha. All you complaining about the US, I'd bet have never actually lived under a repressive regime. Bet you don't know what real slavery feels like either. Or ethnic cleansing. Just sit home in front of the TV, and think you know what the real world is like.

    And you have experienced ethnic cleansing and slavery of course? Take your own medicine asshat and get out there and learn what anyone that isn't a fat white american actually has to put up with.

    By the way you lost you just lost both bets. Apologies for rising to the flamebait but ethnic cleansing and slavery are genuine issues with real and strong emotional resonance. Something posters like this really need to learn.

    1. Re:ignoramUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And you have experienced ethnic cleansing and slavery of course?

      Well *I* have, cocksucker, and that was the OP's whole point: how whiners in the US have never hardly even seen real oppression. Learn how to fucking read, you limp-dicked piece of shit.

  86. Wireless card and a neighbors connection. by skitz0 · · Score: 0

    Don't know how prevelent wireless is there, but if I was to do something like that here, i'd just log onto one of my neighbors open wireless AP's and go to town.

    I'd hope I got the AP of the noisy pricks upstairs so when the secret police come and round them up for reeducation I could get some peace and quiet. Two birds with one stone and all that crap.

  87. Let me guess... by davi_slashdot · · Score: 1

    You live in the USA and want to communicate with someone in Iraq? Or maybe in China, or Siria or Cuba. Or Russia or Iran. Or your neighbor from the communist party.

    Well, sorry sir. Since you are obviously a terrorist, slashdot cannot help you. All your logs are belong to US(A).

  88. Pseudonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What they need is pseudonymity. This way they can build up reputation and credibility etc.

    A distributed weblog that has pseudonymity.

  89. Anonymous dissenters do not force change by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 1

    Sorry, if you want to change the world you are required to sign your name to your work. You might be jailed or killed, but those are the risks you have to take if you want change. No one is going to pay serious attention to "Kilroy was here".

    1. Re:Anonymous dissenters do not force change by La+Camiseta · · Score: 1

      Really? The Nazis sure did.

    2. Re:Anonymous dissenters do not force change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, if they want to actually act for change they will eventually need to come into the open and be counted.

      But the ablity to comunicate and recuit anonymously until then means that when they do stand up to be counted there will be enough of them to be noticed. Then coming forward can be useful as well as nessisary.

    3. Re:Anonymous dissenters do not force change by soupdevil · · Score: 1

      Sure. Sign your name to your work. But, to continue with your metaphor, sign your name to the finished document. No need to sign the scribbles on napkins, rough drafts and Post-it notes.

  90. Combatting keystroke loggers by ReverendLoki · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Regarding keystroke loggers on public terminals - if you can gain access to do so, you could reboot the machine with Knoppix or another live CD to circumvent software loggers above the BIOS level, though it won't help against hardware loggers (a brief visual search can rule out most of those, as long as you can trace the cord to the back of the machine). From there, a secure encrypted connection to a "free world" site should cover you, electronically.

    However, even this will leave you open to IP tracing (should a stream of encrypted traffic raise any flags), as well as wandering busybodies/spies/anyone willing to report your ass for a reward. Just a thought.

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    1. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A simple way to combat hardware keystroke loggers is to use a screen-driven keyboard to enter sensitive data like xvkbd.

      http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/xvkbd/

    2. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by zr-rifle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A good way to combat a software or even a hardware keylogger is use the mouse to type in letters in random positions.

      For example, if you need to type in your email password in a webmail autentication form, you could type the first part, say "bud", then click on another part of the desktop, say the url bar of the browser, type in some random garbage, move the mouse again and finish the password, adding "rose" to "rosebud".

      Since keyloggers don't track mouse movements or clicks, the phisher wouldn't be able to breakdown and harvest the password from the keylogger.

      PS. It also helps not to use obvious passwords like "rosebud" ;)

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    3. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by TakaIta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Isn't it much easier then to open a random webpage and copy/paste the letters you need from the text with your mouse?

    4. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To combat people looking over your shoulder, it might be helpful to have a customisable live CD that you can modify and re-burn to mimic the OS of the public terminal.

    5. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "PS. It also helps not to use obvious passwords like 'rosebud'"

      Aw crap. It's a password? I thought it was a sled.

    6. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by Belgarath52 · · Score: 1

      If you're going to be that paranoid about keystroke loggers, it might be worth taking a look at http://www.keyghost.com/ - normal keyboards with built-in hardware keystroke loggers.

      Knoppix won't help with that. I suppose you could bring your own keyboard, but at some point it's probably just easier to use a Palm Pilot with a keyboard and an ethernet card.

    7. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by panxerox · · Score: 1

      What we need is a version of knoppix that looks just like windows (or a way to choose between the various os looks so that your screen will blend in with the other cafe surfers)

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    8. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by bpfinn · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since keyloggers don't track mouse movements or clicks, the phisher wouldn't be able to breakdown and harvest the password from the keylogger.

      I believe the "Perfect Key Logger" from Blazing Tools takes a screenshot everytime you click the mouse. Their web page also says it captures passwords typed in fields obscured with asterisks.

    9. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dammit. You should put *SPOILER* in the title. Now the movie is ruined for me.

      (Who'da thunk Orson Wells would have predicted computer security issues all those years ago. Genius, I tell ya!)

    10. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      A good way to combat a software or even a hardware keylogger is use the mouse to type in letters in random positions.

      A better way is to use the Windows On-Screen Keyboard. (Start Menu, Programs, Accessories, Accessibility) Click on the letters and type in your password that way. Of course you are now vulnerable to shoulder-surfing attacks, and if they installed a screen capture program that takes pictures every few seconds, you might be screwed as well.

      If you can, reboot with Knoppix, verify that there are no keyboard loggers attached to the back of the machine, and you should be safe.

      Also, regarding the anonymous web-surfing/email thing:

      1. Get a shell account that allows SSH access.
      2. Install Squid. I found that even if you are a regular user without root privileges, you can compile squid with the --prefix=/home/username/squid option and it will install it into your home directory instead of into /usr/local/bin. Also, non-root users can open ports higher than 1024, so if you're using the default port of 3128, you should be fine.
      3. Disable all disk caching in squid, just in case they hack your shell account and you don't want them to look at your proxy cache.
      4. Put Squid in a cron job that checks to see if it is running first, and launches it if it isn't. This will make sure it starts back up if the admin reboots the box.
      5. SSH into the box and forward port 3128 to it: ssh -L3128:localhost:3128 username@hostname.
      6. Set your browser proxy to 127.0.0.1 port 3128.
      7. Enjoy encrypted communications.

      Oh, I should mention that you want to make sure the server you are running your proxy on is not located in the same country (duh!). Of course the traffic is not encrypted once it reaches proxy server and goes out like normal port 80 traffic from there.

      As far as secure email goes: Use Hushmail. You can get a free account without giving them any personal information, and they use 2048-bit PGP encryption. Make sure all of your fellow dissidents are using Hushmail as well, because it takes care of key exchange for you. Also, the admins at Hushmail claim that even if they are given a subpoena, they have no way of decrypting your email messages because they don't have your private key, but I'm not sure if I believe them because the private key has to be somewhere in order for you to read the message.

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    11. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by bariumLanthanide · · Score: 1

      I've seen a few keyloggers (IK keylogger for instance) that log the current window/item focus, e.g. [Firefox: http://slashdot.org/ bud [Firefox: URL] garbagedjfkds [Firefox: http://slashdot.org/ rose Trying to use random positions helps, but it's not really going to stop someone who feels like following the path and piecing the password together.

    12. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by danila · · Score: 1

      Just use a program that displays images using overlays (that's what many media players use for faster screen access) so that a screenshot doesn't capture them.

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    13. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by McCaliber · · Score: 1

      Another good approach is to type random letters (or use prexisting letters on the screen) and cut-and-paste them into your password. That way you can't even use the keylog information in some sort of dictionary attack. I've used this a number of times to type information at public terminals without keyboards, since most people forget to disable the right-click/context menu, and you can access copy and paste through mouse movements alone.

    14. Re:Combatting keystroke loggers by larytet · · Score: 1
      just copy&paste letters from any message board, news page.

      keyloggers can log copy&paste too and collect screenshots of most interesting places you visit, like internet browser.

  91. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    In repressive regimes, terrorizing people is the rule. They have physical access to every PC including the private ones. In Syria, and only a couple of years ago, you needed a "License" from the intelligence to use a "Fax machine" or a "Fax Modem". Only recently they started allowing non-govermnetal access to the internet.

    By the way, do you guys ever wonder how these people access the internet and use Windowz when every software license mentions Syria, N Korea and other terrorist countries as a nono?

  92. Fsking Democrats!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't care what you think. The US and its present president is not a repressive regime! I wish you damned democrats would just get over yourselves already. If you can post on Slashdot, you're not repressed. Obsessed maybe, possessed possibly, but not repressed!

    1. Re:Fsking Democrats!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know he wasn't a libertarian? Way to jump to conclusions. Then again, you're a republican, and not known for an IQ over room temperature.

    2. Re:Fsking Democrats!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ, learn how to check facts on what people tell you.
      Common sense dictates: Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.

      Here are some facts for you to check. Seriously, research them, I'm certain some of them may be false, but if any of them are true, well, then we are being repressed.

      http://www.rense.com/general24/overtrepression.htm
      http://www.workers.org/ww/2004/repressbox0624.php
      http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?item ID=3493&sectionID=43
      http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/repression/histor y.html

    3. Re:Fsking Democrats!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know he was a Republican? Maybe he's just a really pissed off liberterian or democrat? Way to jump to conclusions. Then again, you're an anonymous coward and not known for an IQ over room temp...oh, wait...

    4. Re:Fsking Democrats!!! by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then again, you're a republican, and not known for an IQ over room temperature.

      Fahrenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin?

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    5. Re:Fsking Democrats!!! by General+Fault · · Score: 1

      Not repressive to its own people perhaps. Those in Guantanamo probably don't feel the same however. Anyways, it is hard to know when you are repressed until you cannot tell anyone about it. Better to tell people that you foresee oppression before you cannot do much about it. And if you are right, you will probably need to be anonymous about it.

      Also, are you anonymous because you are repressed or just because you are a coward?

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    6. Re:Fsking Democrats!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, now we see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! We're being repressed!

    7. Re:Fsking Democrats!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sending out invitations to "Those in Guantanamo" for dinner, Sunday, at Your Place!

  93. Exploit Typical Hardware Profile! by Kream · · Score: 1

    Cybercafes are becoming something of a cottage industry here in India and the vast, vast majority run on cheap, assembled white boxes running pirated versions of Windows 98. I've heard that that's the scenario on most other developing nations.

    VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR: THEY ALL HAVE CDROM DRIVES! - (Since they need to be reformatted frequently, and the most easily trainable way to install Windows is to use the install CD)

    Carry a KNOPPIX CDROM with you that you boot from - instant freedom from Windows based keyloggers. Run KDE with the Redmond9x theme and a browser with an IE theme so that to the casual observer you are running Windows.

    You can also use FlashLinux to boot the computer from a USB key (quite cheap these days). Remember to store sensitive data on it using an encrypted loopback device (Should be supported by FlashLinux).

    Use the excellent list of anonymising proxies and ssh tunnelers given above... they'll really help.

    Contact me if you need help... I like interfacing between human beings and technologists :)

  94. Hrmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think your best bet is to move north, like to canada. or south to mexico to escape your repressive regime :X

  95. Anonymous access in not enough... by manx801 · · Score: 1

    while the anonymous access problem is interesting, it seems that the larger problem here is avoiding compromising the sites to which you would publish the information. If the goal is to publish dissident information so as to form a resistance, then the residence time of the publication on the internet will be a major factor.

  96. it depends by TakaIta · · Score: 1
    I am not sure if anonymous dissidents can be called dissidents, but i think i know what you mean.

    It all depends on what they want. If it is just getting information abroad then i'd suggest to encrypt the message in an image or mp3 and send it to a friend. Hide the message in a nice family picture. The friend will for sure be interested in the health and prosperity of his dissident friend. And let him send a picture of his family back. In short hide the information in a conversation that seems harmless. Be creative, and don't use anything that is obviously encrypted.

    If someone really wants to participate in discussions on a forum, well i don't know. That probably isn't a very good idea. Most dissidents want to stay in their country, in order to make a change there (that is why they are called dissidents). But if they really want to live in a free country, they should try to go there. And - how crazy that may sound - that isn't that hard. Just make sure that they are well known as a "political prisoner" and most regimes will happily let them go to avoid further international trouble. Well, it depends a bit on how harsh life in prison is (and how big the chances to survive a couple of years there) under that particular regime. Also many countries have large unwatched borders, which might take a hill or two to cross, but it might be worth it.

  97. Re:Freenet... not all that anonymous by Quirk · · Score: 1

    The Reg has an article that points out a soft spot in the supposed anonymity provided by Freenet.

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    Cohen
  98. BMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are programs out there that hide text in bitmaps. The way they work is you get an image, say of Stalin. Then depending on the text they change the image coloring very slightly, so Stalin's face might get a little unnoticably darker and someone who has the original image can convert it back. Depends on what kind of information your sending though. Doesn't work too well if its a huge about of data (So don't try to encrypt anything like Doom 3 ISOs)

    1. Re:BMP by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 1



      What you are talking about is one application of steganography, and an image file is only one type of media that can be used. Just about any other file (a Word document, a database, an application excecutable, etc.) can be used as the vector for the hidden message. "Steganography" is actually greek for "hidden writing".

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  99. American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Cryofan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are many posters on fark.com who tell of farkers getting intimidation visits from teh Secret Police (AKA the Secret Service) simply because they happened to make offhand comments about news stories involving assassination attempts on the President.

    For example, the other day in Russia (Georgia, actually) someone supposedly threw a gernade in Bush's direction. THe grenade never went off, but some people posted saying stuff like they hoped it, or something like that. The Fark admins posted in the thread saying that they had personal knowledge of Secret Police requests for such posters' IP numbers.

    So the terrorists hate u for our freedoms, huh?

    LOL!

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    1. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by natrius · · Score: 1

      THe grenade never went off, but some people posted saying stuff like they hoped it, or something like that.

      You call them dissidents? I call them dumbasses. I don't think restrictions on saying stupid crap about wanting the president to die is that onerous of a restriction.

    2. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Cryofan · · Score: 1

      what about our vaunted American freedom of speech? How is some farker saying that he hoped "the grenade had gone off" anything REMOTELY like a threat on the life of the president? You know it is not. Everyone knows that. But the Secret Police go and knock on these people's door and publicize it in the media. Intimidation of political speech, pure and simple. Taking a page right out of the Stasi book, the KGB book....

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    3. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What happened on fark was someone posted that he wanted to kill the president and the email addressed in his profile was linked with another email address of his (Using the data mining program carnivore or the echelon project or some other government snooping system). Turns out the poster worked at a military facility where missiles were produced which is why he got a visit. He had access to missiles. Scary how government systems were able to find the link.

    4. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think restrictions on saying stupid crap about wanting the president to die is that onerous of a restriction.

      Likewise, I don't think it would be too onerous if American laws restricted YOU from stating your opinion here. After all it is only purile dribble from a stupid twat. But, I suspect that YOU may take humberage to such a restriction.

    5. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by natrius · · Score: 1

      How is some farker saying that he hoped "the grenade had gone off" anything REMOTELY like a threat on the life of the president?

      It doesn't, but generally, it's a pretty bad idea to wish ill on the president. Most people who say things like that don't carry out their wishes, but some do. It's not smart to put yourself in their company.

      Intimidation of political speech, pure and simple.

      Wishing ill on the president is not political speech. If that's how people get their thoughts across, they must be pretty inarticulate. There's a big difference between "Social security isn't in danger and shouldn't be tampered with" and "Aw, the grande didn't go off!"

      If you came across a site on the Internet where people were begging for your death, you'd probably report it to police, who would then choose whether or not to investigate. The president has his own dedicated police force to do this, so you'd expect that you're more likely to be confronted for wishing ill on the president than on your boss. Joking about a grenade going off isn't exactly shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, but it's pretty close. It's a reasonable restriction on free speech.

    6. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The same thing might easily happen in England. Threats agasint the Queesn are equally prohibited.

      Disliking the president is one thing. Hoping for his literal death is something else altogether.

      How long would such a person last in Saddam's Iraq, or KJI's North Korea? A 'request' to Fark for their email address? No. A threat to 'our beloved leader' would end up quite a bit nastier than that.

    7. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Cryofan · · Score: 1, Troll

      NONSENSE!

      MANY farkers have been subjected to secret police intimidation for offhand comments about how they had wished something bad had happened to bush.

      Why not search fark yourself?

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    8. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, so we're supposed to lower our standards of "freedom" because other countries do also?

    9. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Treason still exists in free countries. I really dislike the current administration, but everybody and their brother knows that threats against El Prezzo are investigated by the Secret Service and should never be made in any public forum.

    10. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I wish X were dead" is not a threat.

    11. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Saeger · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why anyone would wish death on our glorious president. That's too merciful. Return of the pretzels. Muhahah.

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    12. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by jmorris42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      > There are many posters on fark.com who tell of farkers getting
      > intimidation visits from teh Secret Police

      Yo, cornholio. This IS Fark, right? And you believe anything written there? Yea, right. All the zaniness of the Moveon.org crowd without the maturity. And that is saying something. Hint: don't lieten to what the tinfoil hat crowd says, they ain't sane. Not saying that the Secret Service doesn't at least keep an eye on even low threat sites like Fark, but I seriously doubt they would waste their limited manpower harassing a random leftist posting "death to Bush" threats there unless they had their profile linked with accounts on more seriously dangerous sites.

      And besides, death threats against a President should be taken seriously, and shouldn't be protected by the 1st Amendment. It isn't like the odds of surviving being elected President of the US isn't already worse than being shot into space, lets not make em worse by inventing a constituitional right to make death threats against the poor bastards.

      Lets review recent history, shall we? (Warning, flamebait)

      Bush II: The Deaniacs are this >< close to launching suicide bombers against him. I'd be shocked if he makes it to the end of his term without somebody taking a shot. And depending on where that last airliner was bound and whether they knew he wasn't home at the time you could say Osama already give it a go.

      Clinton: Somebody crashed a fscking airplane INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. Of course he left a trail of blood in his own minions. (Ron Brown, et al.)

      Bush I: Ok, so nobody tried to kill him until he left office.

      Reagan: Blamo. But they just don't make crazed gunmen like they used and he didn't succeed. For which the world should give thanks, otherise half the world would still be under the darkness of Soviet Communism.

      Carter: I seem to recall a nutjob taking a run at him. Or was it Ford.

      Ford: See above.

      Nixon: Nobody tried to shoot him. Nobody even really wanted to, except some of John Kerry's more extreme friends. Which says volumes about how far public civility has sunk in the interveening time.

      Johnson: Well he probably assumed by office by assination, but that doesn't count, does it?

      Kennedy: Blamo. See above.

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    13. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and Bush is the president of Canada (USA, actually). Learn some geography!

    14. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by danila · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the UK, but I had personally witnessed seniour BBC journalists woking about how they were tired of the Mother Queen and would like the Mother Queen to die ASAP.

      Don't spread your lies about other countries, please. Using the law to intimidate people is disgraceful. The situation in the US where you can't tell you hope Bush will die is sick. Even in the coutries, that are supposedly less free, such as Georgia, Russia, Belarus, Iraq, etc. you can openly say that you'd like some political figure to die and the local SS won't pay you a visit just because they can, only if it appears it's a genuine threat. Zero tolerance policies are idiotic, no matter where they are applied. And the USians seem to be particularly bad in this respect.

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    15. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      There were at least two separate attempts on Ford, one of them comeing from some of Charles Manson's desciples, including Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme. Technically, both the Ford attacks were from people who really didn't like Nixon, and could be blamed on them not getting it together until he was out of office, and so all that was left was his last Veep.
      The Mansonites had some weird theory that they could force the court to let Charlie testify at their trial, and this would somehow get him freed when America heard what he had to say.
      With Carter, I recall there was a very nasty rabbit attack on Coast Guard 1, but I don't know if the bunny was actually homocidal. Did anyone else try to get Jimmy Carter?

      On the other hand, your chance of an assassination attempt rises to about 350% if you were a Beatle:

      1966. In the wake of John Lennon's interview comment about the Beatles being "bigger than Christ" members of the Georgia KKK begin a plot to kill all the Beatles. Several other groups of fundamentalist types are believed to have developed similar plans to some extent or other, but the Georgia group is the only one known to have purchased weapons and ammunition.
      The Beatles come under criticism in Japan for their choice of venue, playing at a temple complex previously reserved for Japanese traditional sporting events. A number of threats are made, and the Japanese police arrest several persons found carrying guns in the audience, an extremely uncommon situation in Japan at that time.
      The Beatles play Manila in the Phillipines under heavy armed guard due to known death threats. Unknown elements start a baseless rumor that the Beatles snubbed a party invitation from Imelda Marcos in an apparent attempt to start a riot that will overwhelm their security.

      1999. Former Beatle George Harrison is stabbed by an intruder in his mansion near London. Though seriously injured, Harrison was able to detain the assailant with help from his wife until authorities arrive.

      Add to this John's death, and the odds for Beatles are at least as bad, and maybe much worse, than for Presidents (and that's without the "Paul is dead" stuff).

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    16. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Was anyone actually 'visited'? No. Did the authorities investigate? Anecdotal evidence (from Fark) says yeah, maybe they did. Evidently, they also found nothing of interest.
      I'm not saying 'no harm no foul', but let's not blow things up out of context. I find it a little troubling as well, but let's be honest. There was no knock on the door.

    17. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I seriously doubt they would waste their limited manpower harassing a random leftist
      Google for Renee Jensen. Add "Secret Service" to the search.
      Bush II: The Deaniacs are this >< close to launching suicide bombers against him.
      Take a deep breath. Turn off Fox News. Reflect that anyone opposed to Bush's policies doesn't want Cheney taking over.
    18. Re:American dissidents persecuted by Secret Police by danila · · Score: 1

      There are more than enough stories about posters on various websites visited by SS because of comments, which clearly weren't actual threats. You can find a lot of posts here on Slashdot, on Kuro5hin and in others places, not just at Fark. There are also some reports in the mainstream media about the same problem.

      See, the world is not black and white. The US is not a totalitarian dictatorship, but it's trying. However, the legal system is very strong. The US government can't just kill and torture people at will like they would so somewhere in Africa. It must maintain the illusion of legality. The illusion is wearing thinner and thinner each year, but they still have to act in some accordance with the laws.

      That's why people "threatening" Bush are still relatively safe. But we all know that enough bad things happened that this safety is not too reliable (an unprovoked attack on Iraq, when everyone know there was no WMD, sanctioned torture of inmates in Iraq and Guantanamo, sending people for torture to Uzbekistan, where they can be boiled to death, sponsoring terrorism and harboring terrorists such as Posada in the US, supporting anti-democratic violent regimes, etc.). If you look at it objectively, the USA can be as bad as some of the ugliest governments.

      Yes, if you want to measure the risk to an average American, it is probably rather low. But if you want to determine how dangerous would it be for you to express openly a very unpopular opinion, it is different. Yes, there are many sanctioned opinons that you can have, but if you move outside of the allowed spectrum of dissent, you may be unplesantly surprised.

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  100. EFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the EFF has a nice program called TOR that routes traffic from your pc through a network of annon. nodes, similar to freenet but to access regular internet sites. Anything that can use a proxie can pipe the data through the tor network.

    http://tor.eff.org/

  101. IP on Avian Carriers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You want to use IP datagrams on avian carriers. Have your dissidents encrypt their messages memory cards, strap them on a pigeon and send them over to a friend outside who acts as a bridge with the internet. The friend does the reverse. This is actually a high bandwidth network. Just make sure you run like hell if the pigeon doesn't make it, you never know...

  102. What about Encrypted Proxy Partners?? Hear me out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are the difficulties and security problems with setting up
    an encrypted proxy program and also having a friend
    in another country do the same?

    I wouldn't mind providing an encrypted proxy for ONE person, provided they set up the same service for myself in return.

    Any ideas???

  103. What about Anonymizer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey all, I don't post much, and since I lost my old account (can't even remember the username I was using), I ended up posting as AC...

    In any case, I thought I'd actually post a potential solution instead of a "you can't do that" thread...

    How about www.anonymizer.com ? They've been around for a long time, and I personally used them back in '97 or so. Seemed like a good service at the time. Their page claims they now support secure encrypted data transfer from your system to theirs and back, and they do all your posting, fetching, and searching for you, making any trail of IP addresses or packet scans deadend at their servers.

    I suppose an opressive regime would still be able to see that there was traffic between your system and anonymizer, but they could not determine any specific activity you were taking, nor view any of the data in transit.

    How about it? Does this seem like a potential possability to Slashdotters, or just a lot of hype?

    -Ryan
    (ryanm6 (at) shaw dot ca)

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  105. DISSIDENTS == TERRORISTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh sure, USsians may not think of Chinese dissidents as terrorists but, in China they are terrorists. It's no different than the way that you USsians look at US dissidents. US dissidents are terrorists by definition. In fact, all dissidents are terrorists!

    1. Re:DISSIDENTS == TERRORISTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was Ghandi a terrorist?

      Not all acts of dissidence have to be acts of terrorism.

    2. Re:DISSIDENTS == TERRORISTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the time, in India, he was. England wasn't too thrilled with him either. Turns out they were right too as he brought about a regime change. Sad part is, as it so often is, that the country went to hell after that!

    3. Re:DISSIDENTS == TERRORISTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in soviet russia, computers' keystrokes record YOU!

    4. Re:DISSIDENTS == TERRORISTS by loopdreams · · Score: 0

      Especially in today's world where those with the loudest voice can demonise any nation they deem necessary for their own political, national , military and financial gain. That's what Bushy does.

  106. Re:Apparently you are in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure all those iraqies are happy that instead of being oppressed by Saddam, they are now oppressed by good ol' US of A. Well, all except those 100k who have been killed. Then again, I guess the dead don't care.

  107. There is a way around software keylogers by deangelo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm supprised nobody suggested knoppix at an intenet cafe. Combine that with ssh and some free websites, never use the same place twice(website or cafe). Someone also suggested wardriving... come on, we can come up with some ideas that mitigate the risks can't we? Actually combine the leflet campaign as well, each new leaflet publication refers to a new free website, that is never accessed after initial publication... As for a hardware keyloger, they would log scan codes right? so us a non-standard layout, but that would be vulnerable to statstical attacks if there was any substantial amount of text, any suggestions here?
    codohundo

    1. Re:There is a way around software keylogers by jmorris42 · · Score: 1

      > I'm supprised nobody suggested knoppix at an intenet cafe.

      The sound of ignorance..... Anyone setting up a public access PC that allows booting from the CD/USBkey/floppy/blah, blah should be very publicly beaten. Good lord people, I know this is slashdot, but half a clue would be nice to see once in awhile.

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    2. Re:There is a way around software keylogers by deangelo · · Score: 1

      That dosen't change the fact that it happens, most internet cafe's are not set up by any sort of expert. We are not talking about a fully authorized use of the system in the first place. A little extra leg work might be needed (bios back doors, social engineering...). Just because a computer can be set up to be relatively secure dosn't mean that it was set up that way.

      How about this, my university used to have a modem pool, I'm sure some places still have them, if you got an old acusticly coupled modem and called into a modem pool from a payphone (the modem pool was accesable, with a little messing around, from the 1800 number but that's probably too much to ask for normally) Then gain access ( I know, sounds simple, but it is just a matter of time ) Then go nuts.

      Some payphones even have RJ-11's right on them.

      Or how about those coin op internet booths, they can be found in hotels, airports ...

      Anyway the point is that we are just trying to brain storm no need to get nasty.

      codohundo

  108. peekabooty by H310iSe · · Score: 1

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/peekabooty does what you want but I'm not sure how well. I'd imagine it's better than triangle boy since symantec bought safeweb and kind of buried it.

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  109. Re:Freenet... not all that anonymous by Sanity · · Score: 4, Informative
    The Reg has an article that points out a soft spot in the supposed anonymity provided by Freenet.
    Yes, and the Freenet website has a response:
    A recent story in The Register claims to have exclusively discovered an "easy forensic attack" that would allow an attacker to determine what you had downloaded from Freenet. Whether raiding somone's home and gaining access to their computer can really be considered an "easy" attack is debatable, but either way this issue is not news to us, we have publicly discussed it as early as October 2003, when it was raised on our mailing list.

    The article doesn't point out that while the attack as described requires someone to have direct access to your computer, Freenet is not designed to thwart forensic analysis of your hard disk, but there are numerous tools which do that have been widely available for years. These tools can be used in conjunction with Freenet if you consider it likely that your home will be raided and your computer forensically analysed.

    Of course, even the theoretical possibility of this kind of attack is undesirable, and as the article points out, it will be addressed in the next major release of Freenet which we are working on at present.

  110. One thing's for sure... by GreatRedShark · · Score: 1

    The oppressor's of the poster's dissidents will be very interested in reading whatever's posted here!

  111. Secure proxy + random webbased keyboard by mtb_rider · · Score: 1

    If there excisted an secure proxy which featured an online keyboard with randomly placed letters - which you operated via your mouse - couldn't that be a possible solution? It'll be slow going, but at least you'll defeat the keyloggers. A local bank here in SA uses a keypad like this to for online banking login. If screen output is recorded somehow, your efforts will still be traceable, but with the amount of system resources that will consume you should be able to notice that on the PC. And yes, fancy gadgets exist to record screen activity clandestinely ( outside the PC on the vga cable; magnetic emsions from the screen etc. ) - but it will take a lot of manpower & money to monitor thousands of PC's in this way.

  112. freenet is conspicuous by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 1

    Freenet may be good at anonymous information posting and retrieval, but it's pretty easy to tell when someone is running a freenet node. It may not be safe to draw attention to yourself by running freenet, even if the authorities can't tell what you're using it for.

  113. Eternal Vigilance by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Liberty is not a safe hobby. It might be more productive if people could assist increasing liberty without risk, because more people might participate. But then more people, without anything to lose, might also interfere with complicated efforts. Liberty is a very valuable goal, possibly the most valuable one, and is worth a great deal of risk. Living under tyranny without resistance is somewhat risk-free: you're fairly guaranteed to stay under tyranny, unless someone else takes the risk to increase the freedom.

    I don't know any people who have gained liberty by merely waiting for others to provide it. And those who receive liberty without risk seem more able to lose it: witness the erosion of liberty in America as its defense has been relegated more exclusively to specialists, like politicians and activists. When we want liberty, we've got to lay it on the line. And when we get it, it's truly ours - because we've changed our environment as much as we've first changed ourselves.

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  114. Knoppix CD + Hushmail by apenzott · · Score: 1

    Some thoughts off the top of my head.

    Cyber Cafe
    Using Knoppix CD as a boot disk (if they let you) you can bypass any software keyloggers, be sure to check for their their hardware based cousins (especially the new "macro" keyboads with built-in logging...and make sure the keyboards aren't wireless.)

    Hushmail
    http//www.hushmail.com/
    Using a secure webmail client using (RFC 2240) OpenPGP end-to-end security.

    Long-distance wireless (repeaters)
    (a bit obvious for its implementaion, but used correctly can buy some more time to CYAN.)
    Using a (pair of) 24_in grid attenas as a repeater, you can setup a pseudo public access point away from a wireless cyber-cafe. (Note, this setup should be fingerprint clean should it need to be abandoned, perhaps a phase grid array of pringle cans would suffice in bringing the costs down; be sure to use pringle cans from the trash barrels of the secret police for maximum counter-counter-intelligence value. =B)

    Disclaimer
    I don't represent that any of this is a complete guarantee of anonymity (short of not using the Internet.)

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  115. Stenography + Encryption? by CaptainPinko · · Score: 1

    If encrypted traffic raises eyebrows and stegnogrpahy is too sensitive why don't you embed PGP into JPEG comments? then if you do a string search all you get is more numbers and if you look at the traffic you just get lots of jpegs and they vary in size depending on quality and codec so the size bloat should be covered well. And I find that I often get crap in my comment for jpgs or random numbers in my mp3 tags so even then there is plausible denibility. Keep the messages short and away you go! Though if they are onto you then the amount of jpegs with comments will be suspicious... but by that point they'll be torturing you in Guantanimo or whatever.

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  116. Re:Supporting hate groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a Canadian Liberal aren't you?

  117. Wasn't there a way to hide messages in images? by zapp · · Score: 1

    Forgive me that I've forgotten the technique, if it even existed (it may have just been in a sci-fi movie)..

    But I'd swear it would be possible to take a simple string of text, and modify the color values of a known image such that the diff of the image is the text of the message. The image would appear normal, as the color values would only be slightly altered.

    Then you simply find a site with cute pictures of kittens to use as your cover.

    You take a real picture from the net, encode your message to it, and email that picture to your contact.

    Your contact then finds the original, and decodes the message from your altered picture.

    If this technique already exists, please tell me what its called!

    A friend and I had an idea to do this with Audio CDs back in highschool. This was before mp3s or anything like that, so we felt pretty damn cool for thinkin it up.

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  118. SSH proxy by LnxAddct · · Score: 1

    Run sshd on some linux box outside the country, run it on some nonstandard port. Then if they prefer using windows you can set your friend up with putty, set up a dynamic tunnel using socks 4 or 5 or whatever it offers (haven't had to use putty in quite some time as I'm on linux 99% of the time). Once they log into the ssh box through putty, tell them to set the proxy in firefox to localhost and the port to whatever port you chose in putty. Then they can safely surf without fear of being caught. I'd do this from their home so noone is looking over their shoulder.

    Using windows with putty though is a pretty crappy solution and when the authorities see all sorts of encrypted traffic coming out of some awkward port they'll come and take your computer away, then they'll pull things off of your harddrive and shoot you. Dont worry there is a solution, and an excellent one at that. Download a knoppix cd (or your favorite live distro), boot knoppix entirely into ram so you can remove the cd after its booted (i'd recomend having a gig or two of ram, unfortunately liberty and freedom is expensive), create a tunnel through ssh (read the man pages, its easy), then set firefox to localhost and the proxy port. Everything will be encrypted when your browsing the web through firefox, and if the authorities come knocking because they are suspicious, turn off the computer.

    Everything is in ram so when you turn off the computer any history of what you've done is gone, and there is no cd in the computer so if the authorities come rushing through they won't catch you trying to remove a cd. You just have to hit the power, pull the plug, or cut the power to your house if its all you can do, regardless they'll have no evidence of you running an alternative operating system and they'll boot into windows see everything is okay ask about that traffic (just play dumb, say maybe your infected or something, infact you might want to purposely get a few viruses on the machine so your story is believable, as long as you only run the machine from knoppix, the viruses wont affect you, but when the authorities boot into windows it'll look like you were owned). Best of luck, unforutnately all of this depends on you having a box outside of the country with ssh, and also assuming that their firewalls only block by port and dont do any kind of protocol checking... if they do there are other ways around it but they are more complex.
    Regards,
    Steve

  119. Dude? You've got some serious issues! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wearing a tinfoil hat is one thing but, even I would have to question the legitimacy of a person's actions when that person has links to that many anonymizers and obfuscators.

    What the hell are you doing? Nevermind, I don't want to know.

  120. 'dissidents' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes. Many have in-home Internet access, but think it too risky to participate in pro-freedom activities on home PCs. "

    I knew the liberal democrats were getting paraniod, but geez, isn't this is a bit too much?

  121. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  122. what about knoppix, slax, etc? by VolciMaster · · Score: 1

    The live linux distros offer complete anonymity. Reboot, and it's gone.

  123. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by SacredNaCl · · Score: 1

    The webserver for Cuba runs IIS as well last I checked. I figured if anyone would be using Linux it would the commies down there...

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  124. Translation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually this post should read: My buddies and I are tired of getting caught on porn sites, so we want to know how to totally turn off all tracking so our girlfriends won't find out. Thanks for all the help.

  125. Encrypted email and a re-post program? by kickabear · · Score: 1
    What about setting up a server with something like Word Press, and configuring it to accept encrypted email, and have it post those messages? A few email forwarders in places outside the "repressive" country would probably obscure the origins enough. If you had a friend on the outside, they could maintain the system, forward important messages, etc.


    Nothing is foolproof, and any communication is interceptible. The two weakest points in any private communication system are when it's initially set up, and the risks of social engineering.


    Conversations like this always remind me of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by R. A. Heinlein.

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  126. Tor: An anonymous Internet communication system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Tor is a toolset for a wide range of organizations and people that want to improve their safety and security on the Internet."

    http://tor.eff.org

  127. Free, off-the-shelf technology solution by bobdotorg · · Score: 1

    Get a WebTV email address and communicate via the comp.sys.unix USENET newsgroup.

    I guarantee you that nobody will pay any attention to your communications.

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  128. Oh No! Not another Nigerian scam by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 1

    I can just see it now. Email's about somebody's Grand Uncle who left 10 bazillion dollars in some account they need your help getting access to. Except now they use an anonymizer to send them.

    I can understand why they want to hide :-)

    FYI... Yes, this was a joke. Laugh. It's Friday and time to go home :-)

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  129. Gibson has the answer, as usual. by sgt-at-arms · · Score: 1

    Turn your killfile inside-out.

    As a bonus, you may eventually get to meet Rei Toei.

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  130. Big Brother is watching... right now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget also that repressive regimes probably read Slashdot.org... so if you give away methods, they better be practically foolproof and untraceable, so that even if they know the method, it ends up being impossible to trace with mechanical methods! :O

    Why not find a way to transmit under their noses? Make whatever you're sending look like something else, like breaking up an encrypted message into small pieces and hiding it in packets for something that looks ordinary.

  131. Look at this article.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look at this article... http://mikz.hopto.org/mikz.php

  132. Keyboards with built-in loggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Repressive regimes use keyboards with built-in loggers.

  133. Is this possible? by netruner · · Score: 1

    Take 2 a well-known, pro-regeime web postings (could be pics, pages, whatever). Work out a stego key that will decrypt 1 said pro-regeime website to a pro-regeime letter condemning subversives while at the same time will decrypt the second to what they were wanting to send. That way, if they were to be questioned by [insert despot regeime] about what this garbage file is they were posting was, they have an "out".

    Surely, Slashdot has some stego experts that can critique this approach.

    I'm by no means a stego expert, but if I were starting from scratch, this would be where I'd start.

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  134. Re:Do it in the open. by ThomaMelas · · Score: 1

    Except that over throwing a good size goverment won't work from a single act of disobediance. A good revolutionary has no intrest in getting caught because it means you screwed up enough to get caught. Which means your cell is compromised. Which means contacts with other cells could be compromised.

  135. Infranet: surreptitious web browsing by mfreed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://nms.csail.mit.edu/projects/infranet/

    Technical paper (pdf)

    An increasing number of countries and companies routinely block or monitor access to parts of the Internet. To counteract these measures, we propose Infranet, a system that enables clients to surreptitiously retrieve sensitive content via cooperating Web servers distributed across the global Internet. These Infranet servers provide clients access to censored sites while continuing to host normal uncensored content. Infranet uses a tunnel protocol that provides a covert communication channel between its clients and servers, modulated over standard HTTP transactions that resemble innocuous Web browsing. In the upstream direction, Infranet clients send covert messages to Infranet servers by associating meaning to the sequence of HTTP requests being made. In the downstream direction, Infranet servers return content by hiding censored data in uncensored images using steganographic techniques. We describe the design, a prototype implementation, security properties, and performance of Infranet. Our security analysis shows that Infranet can successfully circumvent several sophisticated censoring techniques.

  136. Friendly vs. unfriendly shop owner by davidwr · · Score: 1

    If the shop owner is "cooperating because he has to" he may tell you what is and is not being monitored. Use this to your advantage.

    If he's part of the regime, go elsewhere.

    Finding out if he's part of the regime may be hard.

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  137. Re:Do it in the open. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If you're not willing to die for freedom, you don't deserve freedom."

    So why did you post anonymously?

  138. Spamming as a dissident communication medium by jamiefaye · · Score: 1

    I heard somewhere of a group that got ahold of a spam email address database and sent their stuff to everybody in the country. Since everyone gets it, there is no danger of being arrested for recieving it. The spam could even have a web bug in it that pulls over more payload.

    This is sort of like the numbers stations on short wave radio - you multicast downstream and use secure in-group communications upstream.

    If nothing else, maybe the government involved will finally give a darn about the spam problem!

  139. Did anyone mention Freenet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out http://freenet.sourceforge.net/, home of the Freenet project, which was developed for anonymous sharing of information.

  140. requires some night time activity by geekoid · · Score: 1

    sneak into a internet cafe Hook up a hidden wireless router.
    use once.

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  141. Ask Slashdot by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    KIM asks: "I'm working for a repressive regime which is looking for ways to control the use of Internet in its country. Many have in-home Internet access, but, luckily, think it too risky to participate in pro-freedom activities on home PCs. Internet cafés are also available, but although fairly anonymous, every machine is infected with keystroke loggers that give us access to and knowledge of 'banned' sites. Obviously, not only we want to identify the dissidents themselves, but also the sites they access. Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making overwatching access & publishing a reality under our own run Internet access?"

    1. Re:Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the story. I modded a couple other comments already, so I couldn't respond, but oh well, you said it better than I would have anyway.

      Here's a modpoint to go with my compliments.

  142. Start a P2P proxy anonymizer service by CyBlue · · Score: 1

    Here's the concept: A service with no central server (possibly like Kazaa) that tracks users who volunteer to allow use of their computers for port 80 proxy. A user in China would just need to find one open address on this network to get onto it and from there the software would scan for IPs that aren't blocked. If enough cable-modem users used this then the IPs would change so often that it *might* be impractical to block them all. I know there are problems with this such as: abuse by people anonymizing themselves for illegal activity, DDoS from some Chinese entity sending massive requests to everyone on the network thus killing their upstream bandwidth, etc. I think it could be done, though, as long as there were enough people volunteering to overwhelm the governments filtering capabilities. Especially if a lot of prominent technology companies ran the software on their networks (probably wouldn't happen for legal reasons).

    1. Re:Start a P2P proxy anonymizer service by CyBlue · · Score: 1

      After a little search, it looks like there are already projects working on this http://www.zensur.freerk.com/#4.8

  143. to all those posting solutions by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    keep in mind that for many the only access is through computers on which software cannot be installed (eg: internet cafes).

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    1. Re:to all those posting solutions by DocMurphy · · Score: 1

      Thanks for pointing out what I had hoped would seem obvious to people

  144. So basically-My donuts are stale. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then you have only yourselves to blame.

    Anyway here's the American's homework for today.

    Draw up a list of all the things you did yesterday.

    Now cross out all the things that a repressive regime wouldn't allow.

    My, my. It does appear that despite all the complaints that Americans still live in a freeer country than most others enjoy.

    Now instead of making cracks about how the RIAA/MPAA is repressing you, and all this other stuff.

    How about you all actually turn off the computers and actually get out and...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

  145. OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coward fight! Coward fight!

    1. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will anyone know or care if I pile on, too?

      Assholes?

    2. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just come to look.

    3. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jumping on bandwagon.

    4. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In communist russia, the bandwagons jump you!

    5. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, welcome our new soviet russian bandwagon overlords.

    6. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're all jerkasses!!

    7. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in korea, only old people jump comunist bandwagons

    8. Re:OOOOH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      me 2!

  146. Internet access inside oppressive regimes? by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 1

    Simple... leave the country. Or the geek way would be to use an anonymous proxy, like these for example.

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  147. Java Anonymous Proxy - JAP by toby · · Score: 1

    "JAP makes it possible to surf the internet anonymously and unobservably."

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  148. Tell the to move out of Texas by scmason · · Score: 1
    Just tell these dissidents that they can escape their present regime by moving out of Texas or Florida.

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    1. Re:Tell the to move out of Texas by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Just tell these dissidents that they can escape their present regime by moving out of Texas or Florida

      They might also be in DC.

      .

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  149. Q: by GeckoX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Q: What's the difference between a dissident and a terrorist?

    A: Only your point of view.

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    1. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing that if the country has home internet access easily and widely available and if there are internet cafes that are easy to find then "dissidents" will most likely be seen as "terrorists" and should they be in Europe or America, I suspect that they actually are terrorists.

    2. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're wrong. One can certainly make that argument when it comes to "Terrorist" vs. "Freedom Fighter", but being a "Dissident" does not inherintly ential violence, or threat thereof, as being a terrorist does. Would anyone call the students protesting in Tienamen (sic?) Square Terrorists? Of course not. They were certainly dissidents, but nonviolent. See anyone of hundreds of such examples.

    3. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but violence vs. non-violence does not matter to radical regimes, either communist or islamic (notice there really are no other radicals out there, just lefties and muslims.)

    4. Re:Q: by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Q: What's the difference between a dissident and a terrorist?
      A: Only your point of view.

      I think the difference is bomb/no bomb, and choice of target.

    5. Re:Q: by mad.frog · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, not quite.

      A dissident (my definition, anyway) expresses dissent by speaking, writing, or other nonviolent activity.

      A terrorist expresses dissent by violence, mayhem, murder, or destruction of property.

    6. Re:Q: by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 1

      This is insightful?!

      There are plenty of dissidents who don't harm innocents.

    7. Re:Q: by SB5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And History labels them as who won in the end.

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    8. Re:Q: by AwenAnam · · Score: 1

      Q:What's the difference between a dissident and a terrorist?

      A:Terrorists commit criminal acts to further their agenda.

    9. Re:Q: by mickyflynn · · Score: 1

      diisidents are criminals in their countries. So, I suspect that you mean that terrorists do things which sane people in other countries would also consider criminal?

    10. Re:Q: by Ulrich+Hobelmann · · Score: 1

      Well, there might also be criminal dissidents, especially under a state where everything is illegal.

      I think dissidents merely deviate from the decreed opinion you have to have, and are often right, because oppressive cultures (that force you to deviate) suck.

      Terrorists are *never* right, since they're just criminals, not only under one point of view, but under all points of view. Nobody really accepts murder and destruction, at least if it happened to people they know.

    11. Re:Q: by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      And in oppressive regimes, so do dissidents.

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    12. Re:Q: by QuestorTapes · · Score: 1

      Agreed; most dissidents are technically criminals at one time or another. Civil disobedience, no matter how non-violent, tends to result in arrests, and frequently convictions.

      The key point in the definition of 'terrorist' is the 'terror' part of it. They use violence and intimidation against non-combatents in order to induce terror, as part of a program of social disruption.

    13. Re:Q: by Autobahn · · Score: 1

      A terrorist kills civilians. Civilians are non-uniformed personnel not affiliated with a military agency, not actively harming or imminently threatening the "terrorist's" physical safety, and not suspected of a crime (killing someone suspected of a crime without a trial is an extra-judicial execution, which is another matter). When engaging in total war (generally frowned upon) you can also kill civilians who are actively aiding military units without being a terrorist.

      Dissidents protest, make signs, and get arrested. Sometimes they kill soldiers - then they are revolutionaries. But they do not kill innocent people on purpose.

      The common ground that makes someone a terrorist or dissident rather than a criminal or whacko is that they aim to change government or society with an act or movement. The Rev. Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks were dissidents, Osama Bin Laden and Eric Rudolph are terrorists.

      There's a lot of BS in the political realm about this (eco-terrorists etc.) and we often overlook terrorism sponsored by our allies, but it's a really easy line to draw: if you kill known civilians, you are a terrorist.

    14. Re:Q: by jafuser · · Score: 1
      Q: What's the difference between a dissident and a terrorist?

      A: Only your point of view.

      Of course no such pernicious ambiguity could possibly ever occur from someone who served under the righteous moral guidance of the current leader of the United States, or could it?

      Excerpt:
      The [teacher's] union mobilized its forces for John F. Kerry in the 2004 presidential race, and its objections to Bush's education law prompted Rod Paige, the former secretary of education, to call the NEA a "terrorist organization."
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    15. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: What's the difference between a religion and a cult?

      A: The number of members.

    16. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, a terrorist is just someone you don't like.

    17. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A terrorist kills civilians."

      A terrorist 'terrorises' people. It is the threat and fear of death, injury, destruction that causes terror.

      They don't need to kill someone to be a terrorist.

    18. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Destruction of property is a terrorist act? So are you saying that a high school kid who breaks a window is a terrorist? Or, do you mean bigger dollar amounts (meaning the difference between petty vandalism and terrorism is only a question of dollars)? Personally, I can't see how any property crime could even be stretched to fit the definition of terrorism.

    19. Re:Q: by Autobahn · · Score: 1

      Yes, that is correct, sorry - the threat is included as well. Economic damage counts as terrorism only inasmuch as it is an attempt to disable the normal functioning of a country - I don't think the burning of a ski lodge or the damage in Seattle during the WTO protests counts as terrorism, but the bombing of the 10 busiest highway intersections would be because it would be an attempt to stop the country from functioning and thereby violently precipitate the overthrow of the government. Most acts of property-only terrorism are aimed at a specific individual or business, whereas terrorism is aimed at society.

      For a concrete example, the eco-thugs who burned the ski lodge in Colorado were criminals but not terrorists because they targeted a specific development, while the Basque bombings which injured nobody (they called ahead to warn) are terrorism because they are a threat to life.

    20. Re:Q: by Jack+Taylor · · Score: 1

      Although bear in mind that terrorists are a subset of dissidents. Dissidents are people who dissent, no matter how they choose to do it.

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    21. Re:Q: by mad.frog · · Score: 1

      OK, so "destruction of property" is a subjective term. In practice, though, I think it's clear that while obviously destruction-of-property does not equal terrorism, terrorism can consist of nothing but destruction-of-property.

      Imagine that the 9/11 attacks had been carefully orchestrated so that the buildings were completely empty. Now further imagine that (miraculously!) there was no loss of life by firefighters, police, bystanders, etc. And, just for grins, that the planes were empty of passengers and crew -- just those dang terrorists (err, "dissidents").

      Yeah, it's a contrived example. But I don't know how you'd call it anything but terrorism.

    22. Re:Q: by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1
      Personally, I can't see how any property crime could even be stretched to fit the definition of terrorism

      It's the message and intent involved.

      "The government building explosion downtown last night was a warning. If the current government does not change it's policies regarding X, we will destroy one public or corporate building each day, until these policies are changed. As we do not want to needlessly kill our fellow citizens (recruits), we will give 5 minutes warning to the target of the day."

      Much different than a high school vandal breaking out a few windows. Even if he does it with a stick of dynamite.

    23. Re:Q: by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 1

      The Taliban when they blew up the Bamiyan Buddhas were engaging in an act of Terrorism were they not? If the Israelis were to blow up the Al Aqsa Mosque, that too would be an act of terrorism, no?

    24. Re:Q: by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      Just picture a property crime that indirectly causes physical harm. Knock down enough power lines at the right time, and you have a bunch of people freezing or broiling, trapped in tall buildings with no elevators for emergency services to get to them, and so on. Blow up a few completely empty buildings, and it starts a panic, and people die fighting over the gas pumps, or racing to get out of the city. In such cases, the terrorists haven't directly killed anyone, but indirectly, they've killed hundreds or thousands.

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      Who is John Cabal?
    25. Re:Q: by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Hah! The NEA is a terrorist organization. Most repressive union ever.

    26. Re:Q: by diablo2007 · · Score: 1

      It is my belief that a dissident works for freedom against an oppressive regime, while a terrorist works for an oppresive regime and against freedom

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      My computer ate my homework and my dog ate my sig.
    27. Re:Q: by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      So by that definition, the IMF protestors in Seattle were terrorists because they destroyed property?

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    28. Re:Q: by bbc · · Score: 1

      "A terrorist expresses dissent by violence, mayhem, murder, or destruction of property."

      That's what "terrorist" used to mean. Nowadays it means "dissident".

    29. Re:Q: by andywww · · Score: 1

      An alternate definition of terrorist is one who uses fear as a political tool. That is, violence transcends the physical.

    30. Re:Q: by ccmay · · Score: 1
      So by that definition, the IMF protestors in Seattle were terrorists because they destroyed property?

      Yup. If it had been up to me, they'd have been shot dead on sight.

      -ccm

      --
      Too much Law; not enough Order.
    31. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So by that definition, the American Revolution was committed by terrorists?

    32. Re:Q: by ramblin+billy · · Score: 1



      So, from your definition, the pilots of military bombers, and the men who command them, including their Commander-in-Chief, are terrorists. Arc Light B-52 strikes during the Vietnam war destroyed anything below them for square miles. During WWII cities were bombed without specifically targeting military installations. Collateral damage is expected by military planners, who somehow define 'acceptable levels' of accidental deaths. Personally, I have a problem with defining deaths you know will occur as the result of a particular action as 'accidental'. Certainly, by your definition, there were Israeli terrorists before there were Palestinian terrorists. I can't imagine how any reasonable person can define the knowing distribution of small pox infected blankets to Native Americans as anything but terrorism. By your definition, the Government of the United States is a terrorist regime.

      Once you have labeled someone as a 'terrorist' it is easy to dismiss any consideration of their individual situations. I marvel at how many of my fellow Americans refuse to consider why young men with the ability to accomplish the 9/11 attacks would sacrifice their lives by crashing an airliner into a building full of strangers. Don't misunderstand - I don't support their actions or terrorism in any form - but in order to combat terrorism we must find its roots. To do that we must understand how terrorists are created and their motivations. To dismiss them as 'evil', religious fanatics, or attribute their actions to a 'hatred for our freedom' represents such a simplification of the actual situation that it is useless as an explanation of the reasons behind terrorist actions. It also calls into question the motivations of those who espouse such explanations. Some terrorist actions are undertaken by men who believe the acts are the only way they can call attention to intolerable injustices. In some cases terrorism seems to be the only viable military response to overwhelming odds. Other acts are a result of cold blooded calculations about the reactions of the public and the publics subsequent influence on governments. One factor in the 9/11 attacks was the widespread belief in the Islamic terrorist community that the citizens and government of the U.S. lack the courage and political will to endure in the face of American bloodshed. They were wrong. In other ways they have succeeded by creating a powerful excuse used by our own government to diminish our freedom. The possibility that this effect was planned is not only frightening, but points out the shallow nature of our understanding of the politics of the real world. The United States is not innocent of causing harm to people in the pursuit of its own interests. To admit this and work to prevent its repetition in no way validates the terrorist's actions or hinders our just pursuit of their accountability. It might go a long way in preventing the creation of new terrorists. Our leader's refusal to level with the American people suggests there are factors and agendas which they wish to conceal. The question vital for the future of America is; do we have the courage and political will to face the difficult truths about terrorism and its causes? Are we truly a free democratic society who's citizens exercise both their right and responsibility to control their government? If not, it won't be terrorists who destroy our freedom, it will be our own apathy.

      billy - in order to form a more perfect union

    33. Re:Q: by Autobahn · · Score: 1

      I differ in that I don't believe "collateral damage" makes one a terrorist if all possible precautions are taken to avoid it. In modern times the US military brings JAG lawyers to bombing sites to ensure that they are minimizing casualties. In WW II they didn't have the capacity to target bombs very accurately, so there was lots of collateral damage. But I do think things like the firebombing of Dresden or razing Vietnamese villages were wrong (and a waste of resources as well). It's not that there are "acceptable" levels of death, it's the attempt to minimize civilian deaths in an otherwise-legitimate military campaign that distinguishes one from terrorists: terrorist seek to maximize civilian deaths.

      There's also a grey zone, though - when terrorists operate as a group (such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad, or the Iraqi insurgents), they are breaking international law because they are a military unit but do not identify themselves with uniforms and routinely operate in civilian areas. A huge proportion of the civilian deaths in anti-terror operations come for this reason - the Israeli army has to shoot at random people in an apartment building because an unmarked terrorist unit is operating from there. There isn't really an option except to shoot plainclothes people.

      I'm with you that we need to examine the factors that feed terrorism, though. Calling people names (evil, terrorist, fanatic), even if accurate, does nothing to solve the problem.

    34. Re:Q: by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      Can we say, "Boston Tea Party"?

    35. Re:Q: by todu · · Score: 1

      > A terrorist expresses dissent by violence, mayhem, murder, or destruction of property.

      You mean like deleting M$ Windows, and installing GNU/Debian instead?

    36. Re:Q: by ndogg · · Score: 1

      In what fucked up world do you live in where property has more value than life?

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      #include "frickin_lasers.h"
    37. Re:Q: by rainman_bc · · Score: 1

      In what fucked up world do you live in where property has more value than life?

      I'd bet the GP lives in one of the redneck central states that voted for dubya... You know... Jesusland...

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    38. Re:Q: by Hast · · Score: 1

      That should be "difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter".

    39. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was Paul Revere a dissident or a terrorist?

    40. Re:Q: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is 100% correct. Unfortunately some groups view the US as an oppresive regime. More correctly some groups view the US as supporting the oppresive regime of the Isrealies.

      It all comes down to point of view.

    41. Re:Q: by mad.frog · · Score: 1

      Yep. I'd say that.

  150. Not even SSL helps by bluGill · · Score: 1

    Sorry, the government controls the machines. Your computer only accepts one certificate authority, the one that government proxies generate as needed for any site you connect to. The government proxies then decrypt/re-encrypt everything before forwarding it to whoever.

    Spyware companies have already done this. See the slashdot article a couple weeks back.

    1. Re:Not even SSL helps by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Okay so it is worse than I thought.
      Rule one. If you are going to be a dissident do not trust SSL.
      I guess an SSH tunnel or VPN would be an options but both will still eventual get you noticed.

      --
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    2. Re:Not even SSL helps by bluGill · · Score: 1

      Not quite. If you are a dissident make sure that you enter the public keys you trust yourself. This also means that you need programs that you have audited (or that you had someone you trust audit), and they are running on a computer your trust.

      Remember Ken Thompson's login/compiler hack? You can write a OS that recognizes when some open source program is running. Which means that you can't trust the machine you are running programs on if you are in China at least.

      hmmm... I think I have just given myself one more reason to refuse to buy anything made in China if I have any choice in the matter.

  151. Dont use the internet. by miffo.swe · · Score: 1

    I dont think you really can avoid snooping if its done by people with enough resources. Your best hope lies in masking the traffic as legit normal traffic. The problem with all of this is that someone can monitor your crt/lcd monitor and collect the keystrokes wich leaves all software based cloaking useless. If you are a dissident chances are high that people knows about this.

    My best bet anyway would be to not use the internet at all since its so heavily monitored, even by the US and the EC.

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  152. Perfect Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell me what websites you want to see, and I'll print them out and send them to you. Circle the links you want to visit and send the pages back to me.

    And you thought 56K was slow. :)

  153. DANGER: agent spotted ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is a NSA (or other of that kind) agent investigating how clever /. geeks are...

    Don't tell him anything... you will be busted.

  154. Using the Net in a repressive regime by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes. Many have in-home Internet access, but think it too risky to participate in pro-freedom activities on home PCs.

    First, realize that the Net inside the US is being watched.

    Second, move to Canada.

    Third, live free.

    .
    [what, like it's not?]
    .

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  155. getting around HW keyloggers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what if you use a dvorak keyboard layout. they'll basicly get gibberish.

    1. Re:getting around HW keyloggers by ngkdc · · Score: 1

      The KEYBOARD is laid out differently ... but an X typed on a QWERTY keyboard is encoded the same as an X on a DVORAK keyboard.

      No gibberish ... unless you typed gibberish ...

      Sorry.

    2. Re:getting around HW keyloggers by tomjen · · Score: 1

      No not if you are typing it on a QWERTY keyboard and use you software to change it to DVORAK.

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  156. repressive regimes by frovingslosh · · Score: 1
    I live in such a repressive regime. Heck,in my town we even have to enter our library card number to use an Internet terminal at the Public Library. Two guesses why.

    My advice for those tring to avoid such opression is to move to Iraq. We have spent many millions there setting them up free access Internet that is much private than our own citizens enjoy.

    --
    I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
  157. Move where? by bluGill · · Score: 1

    Where are they supposed to move? All countries restrict who can immigrate in. (some are worse than others) Many restrictive countries will not let you leave.

  158. My suggestion is a country you've never heard of.. by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 1

    ...Sealand. Which is an independent monarchy just off the East Coast of the UK.

    It runs as its (only) business, Havenco which is a totally anonymous secure web data center.

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    Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question
  159. Google Web Accelerator can be the answer. by trelony · · Score: 1

    Just found out that GWA site is blocked by WebSence as a proxy avoidance support site. Hmmm.. Now I see a reason to keep GWA even though it often crashes nightly Firefox....

  160. not easy but possible by fadethepolice · · Score: 0

    1.)
    Make contacts in a bordering state. Run point to point low power wireless ethernet links across the border and daisy chain them to wireless hotspots . change configuration often, use low-cost equipment, and come up with some novel idears for power.

    2.)
    Buy your own satellite and broadcast information en-masse. Can combine with option 1 above to bring it to the people.

  161. Strong anonymity in a public network... by Timothy1965 · · Score: 1

    There are many systems that provide strong anonymity in a public network. These include Herbivore, Crowds, Tarzan, Tor, P5 and many others. Some have even been deployed and used in practice.

  162. I2P by ET_Fleshy · · Score: 1

    Somebody suggested TOR, and while it is good for surfing somewhat anonymously, there is a better solution called I2P. Though still in beta mode, it provides an amazing level of security that you can use to not only browse the web, but also to host your own website anonymously and also have free anonymous email. I will warn you right now that it is very slow, but if your need for privacy is as necessary as you make it seem than it's perfect for you. Cheers.

  163. Re:write in advance, encrypt and get caught by Phoinix · · Score: 1

    You have to remember that in some countries, it is illegal to use encryption software. Unless the message is worth the risk, you may very well get caught red-handed. It is always a risk/benefit ratio.

    Is it "legal" for non-US citizens to use high grade encryption software inside the US?

  164. Hmm... by dacarr · · Score: 1

    We have our lead on slashdot, guys, time to silence him.

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  165. beating the dead game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your Resistance is futile! All your base belong to us

  166. ...sell them the rope w/ which to hang themselves by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 0

    > every machine may be infected with keystroke
    > loggers that give governments access to and
    > knowledge of 'banned' sites.

    Maybe it would be easier if we just asked the American companies building spyware and censorware for the Chinese government to stop it!

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  167. BS-A by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, right.

    Let's see. Based on the last Presidential election results, I'd say just under half of politically active in the US are dissidents.

    Last I checked we only have a very few bona fide, home grow, blow up civilians, terroists.

    Sorry if I don't buy the new definition of terrorist, which does seem to mean dissident.

  168. Hrm.... by Duncan3 · · Score: 1

    I suppose booting form a USB drive fully firewalled and then using PGP and VPN/SSH tunneling is just too simple?

    I'm sure we could come with a nice nerdy hard way if you would prefer, but the above works just fine.

    --
    - Adam L. Beberg - The Cosm Project - http://www.mithral.com/
  169. Anonymity is a double edge sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [SPAMMER] asks: "I'm [a spammer] who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within [increasing hostile net.] Many have in-home Internet access, but think it too risky to participate in [spamming] activities on home PCs. Internet cafés are also available, but although fairly anonymous, every machine may be infected with keystroke loggers that give [anti spammers] access to and knowledge of 'banned' sites. [Spammers] not only want to remain anonymous themselves, but also wish to not compromise the sites they access. Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & [spam run] a reality under [watchful eyes of anti spammers monitored] Internet access?"

  170. Options by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

    You can hide it, you can encrypt it, or you can send it through a different medium.

    Hiding it aka steganography is relatively easy to implement and easy to use. The problem is that all the dissidents have to agree on a protocol without the idea getting into the hands of the enemy. And if the enemy ever catches on everyone has to stop using it simultaneously and immediately.

    Encryption is good. If its legal where you're from. And if you implement it right from secure environments. And you don't mind the idea that maybe someone might get suspicious at all these encrypted packets you spew out all the time.

    Now a different medium... that's starting to sound pretty good, eh?

    Satelite internet is pretty good these days if a little expensive. You might even be able to disguise it as a TV receiver dish. But you'll always have a nice big dish outside advertising that you are able to receive information from the outside world. May not be the best idea...

    Various wireless options including cellular and wifi exist. But if you strongly suspect your home PC is not safe, these probably aren't safe either. Unless you're close enough to the border to get a signal from across the border. In oppressive regimes, noone gets to live comfortably close to a border, however, so I'd rule that out.

    Alternative wired transport options don't have any advantage so...

    What would I do?

    Get AOL. It's ubiquitous and AFAIK they try to respect the privacy of their subscribers (though that doesn't mean you're not being watched... only that your ISP didn't make it easy)

    Setup a server in an external country. Make ALL your traffic go through this server, encrypted. Use a PKI solution and either memorize your key or keep it on removeable media. Preferably the removeable media is hardware password protected and includes self destruct features. Run something that includes tons of traffic. If there are any legitimate P2P programs that only trade in legal files I'd pick that. Otherwise a ton of RSS readers or hell just a program to download and discard random images found through Google Images.

    The key is to fill the channel with enough noise that traffic analysis trying to match encrypted packets coming from your computer to intercepted unencrypted traffic (that they got through whatever legitimate or illegitimate means) is doomed to failure.

    Even then expect to get caught. Change your keys often. Change the location of the remote server often. Don't save files to your local hard drive. If you're paranoid enough boot from a LiveCD. You might also want to consider optical and em tempest defeating strategies... an LCD monitor will take care of optical tempest. em tempest can be defeated through a careful choice of fonts and colors.

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  171. Some Random Thoughts... by jwave · · Score: 1
    Some Random Thoughts in no particular order after reading some comments...

    1. Regarding someone's earlier suggestion for Knoppix-like live-CD boots, I think it's a great idea. I've not been to an Internet Cafe... Do they allow you to boot from CD-ROM? I would make it impossible if I was an Oppressive Regime (OR).
    2. As for bypassing hardware key loggers, what if you used a USB keyboard that you brought yourself. I'm sure there's some roll-up plastic keyboards that operate on USB. Simply unplug the existing keyboard and plug yours in and reboot... As long as the USB port isn't being logged, you could be OK. (I say "could" because I'm not certain)
    3. I agree with an earlier post that pre-encrypting with GPG or PGP would be a good idea. The downside is that interactive communication is still risky.
    4. Regarding encryption, I suggest multiple encryptions in multiple variety. I saw a stand-up comedian or TV show where a paranoid New York apartment dweller had a dozen locks and locked only half of them. that way when the locks were picked, the thief was locking the unlocked ones... If I remember the old PGP, you could use the public key of your recipient to decrypt and use your private key to encrypt. Do this with a half-dozen encryption schemes, in the right order, over multiple encryption methods and you'll give the OR-goons something to think about. This includes embedding your encrypted message in audio, video, image, text, configuration, executable, and any other kind of file you can think of. (I'm waiting for someone to come up with an olfactory format, although I wouldn't be surprised to discover that most M$ file formats stink.)
    5. Encrypt everything! From grocery lists to birthday wishes to seditious remarks to praise for the current OR-leaders. Make the OR fight to get fruitless results and they might think you some knucklehead who just encrypts stuff for the fun of it.
    6. Tunneling and Anonymizer like proxies are great, except I don't trust the man-in-the-middle attack or the MAC address problem. The only way I see to avoid reducing traceability of your communications is to own someone else's servers and control them remotely. Most people, including me, aren't good enough to do that. To circumvent Big Brother's all-seeing eyes, and foster free speech, it must be easy enough for the non-technical users.
    7. Remember that the OR has the budget (through oppressive taxation) to capture everything in perpetuity so they can review and hammer away at their leisure. So, be careful out there.

    Me? I'm hiding under my bed until this blows over...

    - - -
    The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to.
    -- Thomas Jefferson

  172. openvpn by Roach · · Score: 0

    openvpn to a u.s. or swiss server and traffic tcp over vpn.

  173. Easier option by jaysones · · Score: 1

    Or, to save some time, just travel to the recpient's home and tell them the information.

  174. I can help very much by catdevnull · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have large facility with many good computers and access to evil western sites. Please, if so kinds, forward names and addresses of dissidents to me so I may contact them for their helps.

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    I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
    1. Re:I can help very much by couchpundit · · Score: 1

      Somebody mod parent down--Kim Jong-Il's trolling /. again.

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      Feral Humorist & Master of the Obvious
  175. Good ole' USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're talking about the USA, right?

    1. Re:Good ole' USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...sadly, yes, it could be the USA...since the Patriot Act, anything is fair game for gov't survailance,

  176. Telephone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back before the handover of Hong Kong back to China in 1997, people could easily dial into Hong Kong ISPs. It may be more expensive now though if they have to call Russia or something.

  177. Hide it in an image by FhnuZoag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember some software that could hide messages in graphics files, by subtly editing the values of some pixels. Then, if the other side has a copy of the image, they can subtract them to find the difference, and decode the image.

    So, your scheme would be to send an image, and then, some random time later, to send some information using this image. Double encrypting might work too. As long as you aren't already under suspicion, I doubt anyone has the time to check for people sending duplicate graphics files.

    1. Re:Hide it in an image by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1

      Wow, I was thinking of writting some software just like that. Could you come up with a name, or better, a site, so I don't have the serveral headaches that will come with codeing such a project.

    2. Re:Hide it in an image by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      search for "steganography"

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

  178. Use the remailer network... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that is exactly what it is there for.

    Get Mixmaster and read about the network.

  179. one word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move

  180. Try reading the book "Persepolis." by javaxman · · Score: 1

    Really, it should be required reading in grade schools across the world...

  181. Who? by Kohath · · Score: 1

    Can we have the names and addresses of these dissidents?

  182. yeah my company blocks pr0n too by netsavior · · Score: 1

    Just get back to work and ignore the "Websense" warning you get every time you try to access "Live Video Feeds"... sponsor an employee event: bring your pics to work day

    Viva la revolution!

  183. Re:And the entire internet is public.. - DNS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Open a connection through SSH that forwards a local to an anonymous proxy at the far end.

    AFAIK, many proxies don't forward DNS requests. It may be safer to just run lynx/links on your shell account, as long as you disable all history/caches/logging.

  184. Pussies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should grow some testicles, strap on come C-4, go visit their oppressor, and demand redress of the grievances.

  185. publishing while protecting web sites? by beeblebrox · · Score: 1

    Dissidents not only want to remain anonymous themselves, but also wish to not compromise the sites they access.


    and:


    Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime run Internet access?


    How do you want to publish if you also want the sites to remain anonymous? Granted, Tor can support anonymous web sites, but if you can get collaborators in free(er) regimes to host the sites for you and communicate securely/anonymously with them, you only have to solve the (somewhat) simpler problem of secure, anonymous one-way communication from you to them.

    Unless of course you're asking about how to communicate between yourselves securely, which is different from publishing...
  186. I'm Spartacus! by Michael_Burton · · Score: 1

    I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes.

    I think it's high time the Democrats stood up and spoke out openly. For every man who falls, two more will rise in his place. You can kill a man, but not an idea!

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    When all you have is an axe, everything looks like a grindstone.
  187. packet radio free by UESMark · · Score: 1

    The cleverest and latest in wireless technology may not be the best approach in this context. There are methods for using ham radio to transmit and receive tcp/ip. (check out hfterm on sourceforge) Clearly there is not sufficient bandwidth for normal browsing, but if you want top publish say the "how my government is oppressing me this week" blog all you need is a host in a less oppressive region that will run a tcp/ip radio gateway for you. Of course getting ham equipment may be tricky in those regions, but it's still a self-contained system that's not insanely difficult to operate.

  188. Thoughtcrime alert! by Urusai · · Score: 0

    Remain at your computer, citizen, a friendly officer of the Truth Department will arrive shortly to assist you in correcting your doubleplus ungood attitude.

  189. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by loopdreams · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ever thought that these countries aren't really terrorist nations at all, but simply labelled by a few countries because it serves their own agenda?

  190. So 'Written By An Englishman' just won't do? by geekotourist · · Score: 1
    Seems like most of the time the risky, world-changing ideas require that the idea is publicized, not any particular name. Signing your real name seems orthogonal to getting the word out.

    Do you fault 'Written By An Englishman' for not using his real name? He got a good revolution going without it. Or how about 'Publius,' 'Forester' and 'Cato'?

    There is one strong use for non-anonymous writing, which is when founding reactionaries change their minds. In this case the use of argument from authority might be more than just taking advantage of human psychology, if the mind change is accompanied by reasons / evidence / data. Otherwise naming names early on mixes the quality of ideas with the fame of the author. [Think about how the "Darwin recounted on his deathbed" idea is used as a pro-creationist argument. Not only is this idea false, its irrelevant. Peer-reviewed research, not famous names, corroborates science.]

  191. VPN by zbuffered · · Score: 1

    Have a friend who lives in a non-repressive regime? Does your friend have broadband? Ask them to set up a VPN server. Just connect to it when you need to blog/whatever.

    Next?

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    Synergy is your friend
  192. Easy as pie... by Senor_Programmer · · Score: 1

    1)Rent server space in USA or other country where folks may speak their minds.

    2)Boot Knoppix on the local machine and SSH to the server.

    Can boot from CDROM, USB device, floppy to bootstrap parallel port connected device. Floppy to boot from some other server out on the internet. It's probably not a good idea to boot from where they publish ;-)

  193. 6 easy steps by ThyPiGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    1.) Boot Computer 2.) Print blank piece of paper 3.) Write message on paper 4.) Place message in envelope 5.) Use trained pidgeons 6.) Profit!

  194. Standard Joke by rscrawford · · Score: 1

    And I'm sure it's been said a dozen times already, and I'm just too lazy to look.

    So, which State are these Democrats located in? Or they could be judges, I guess.

    (No disrespect to those who really DO live in oppressive regimes throughout the world. I can only imagine what it's like to live in places like that; and contrary to what my fellow liberals and Democrats might think, the US is not one of those places.)

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    -- The reason it's called the right wing? Irony.
  195. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, they run FreeBSD, according to Netcraft.

  196. tunnel it via a very thick and secure protocol by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    there's an experimental RFC that deals with encodings of IP traffic over Ebay ads. basically you treat ebay as a two-way data channel where ads are posted and act as outgoing messages, and replies are sent back also as ads, with threaded links back to their parent message.

    its very slow, but it can be done.

    can't remember the RFC number off hand. google for it.

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    "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
    1. Re:tunnel it via a very thick and secure protocol by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      found one (in google cache) like it, but older and less efficient

      similar idea, except you encrypt the user payload into text and pictures that seem, at first inspection, to be normal ebay ads.

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      "It is now safe to switch off your computer."
  197. File obfuscation by edforth · · Score: 1

    I would say that encryption wouldn't help, as when the regime notices a dissident using encryption on messages, they'd then subject that person to intense review. I'd think the best way to pass messages would be to disguise them as other types of files. Perhaps utilizing a previously agreed on code and storing the message inside the ID3v2 tag on an MP3, to then be shared at an agreed upon site (acid.com, mp3.com) perhaps a better way: isn't there a method for encoding tex messages inside an otherwise normal looking JPEG file? This could also be combined with another code for the message itself. I'd imagine someone clever with a good knowledge for the JPEG format could devise a code that would appear to just be artifacts in the JPEG file

  198. Ooops... no longer important by Balthisar · · Score: 1

    Oops, this article is no longer relevant. Sadly, the submitter of the article was pronounced dead on the scene. The 8 gunshots to the head have been described by the state-run medical crew as "the worst suicide we've seen in days."

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    --Jim (me)
  199. tor and truecrypt by sbma44 · · Score: 1

    others have said it, but that's what I'd suggest. if it's a closed network of folks wanting to contact each other, i2p might be a good idea. for an even smaller network, openvpn is great.

    with any of these, I'd suggest using truecrypt (or the knoppix solution mentioned elsewhere in this discussion). it'd be important to make sure than all your webcache directories are located on the bestcrypt volume.

  200. Re:write in advance, encrypt and get caught by deadhammer · · Score: 1

    Encryption in the US is considered, for some cockeyed reason, "munitions", so no, no more legal than it is for me, a proud Canuck, to mosey on down past the border bearing claymores and a howitzer.

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    I'll be honest, we're throwing science against the wall to see what sticks. -Cave Johnson
  201. WebTunnel / VNC/ Terminal Services/ by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

    Not yet mentioned here is a commercial product: Primedius webtunnel.

    This is an encrypted proxy system for browsing etc.; there are multiple proxy servers available worldwide and I've never had difficulty logging on to a tunnel from inside most Asian regimes, though my primary reason is to get around site restrictions, not avoiding traffic snooping.

    Unlike TOR, Primedius' product (servers) does not seem routinely blocked, even in China, though my take is that WebTunnel is so rarely used that the "regimes" have better uses for their time than following/blocking it. If WebTunnel was regularly used then it might get more attention, and I am not sure if Primedius would be interested in working around that problem.

    WebTunnel traffic is encrypted, but you would likely wish to examine that issue -- that is, how secure they really are -- in depth if you were to use it vs. a regime.

    On a separate note, a more effective strategy might simply be to use VNC or Terminal Services etc to make connections to a server in a "free" country, doing all your work on the remote machine. Many companies offer such services at about $50/year/user and you may find them willing to offer a discount for "political" purposes, especially if the company can get free press by supporting you. Then you simply need a way around keyloggers if you want to use public terminals -- Knoppix etc if you are sure keylogging does not occur on a hardware level.

    Another "trick" around keylogging that I didn't see above is to have a non-standard (random) keyboard layout installed on the remote terminal-- frustrating to learn, but your traffic will look incomprehensible. However note that (even if you keep switching layouts) this can be defeated by serious analysis of your traffic: it's just a matter of testing which ASCII code matches which character...

    1. Re:WebTunnel / VNC/ Terminal Services/ by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      Also: you may wish to see (from Global Voices online) Ethan Zuckerman's Technical Guide to Anonymous Blogging

  202. In other news by fabu10u$ · · Score: 1

    Burma, North Korea, and the United States have just banned tin foil and removable media. Film at 11.

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    They say the mind is the first thing to ... uh, what's that saying again?
  203. Tor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  204. Why by mugnyte · · Score: 1


    I have to ask...at some point there's diminishing returns. For example, what web sites does "person under regime" want to access and what good will it do?

    Even if someone in China reads about the philosophy of democracy, wouldn't it be better to simply talk it over with fellow countrymen? Howabout anonymously leaving printed material around the neighborhood?

    In the end, it's not getting the information thats important, it's doing something with it. For current day changes, I don't advise a protest, but slowly working up inside the system and dismantling it. However, either can work.

  205. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by B747SP · · Score: 1
    By the way, do you guys ever wonder how these people access the internet and use Windowz when every software license mentions Syria, N Korea and other terrorist countries as a nono?

    Easy Campesie: Open Source. The Open Source Definition has a clause that reads "The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.". So, if you want to call your software license an open source license, you can't put the "No Bad Guys" clause in there. Since there's plenty of software out there being released under licenses that are Open Source Initiative (OSI) approved, I'm thinking getting on the net legally (for western values of "legal") is easy.

    Take that, and the likely complete disregard for Western Capitalist Pig software licenses that probably exists, and they can use all of the same software we use, only free-of-charge even for the commercial stuff!

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    I find your ideas intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
  206. Offtopic - Geocaching (Sort Of) by pipingguy · · Score: 1


    Bill, I thought you might appreciate this site:

    http://www.100pieces.ca/main.html

    "In April of 2005, I placed 100 pieces of clay sculpture along the coastline of Nova Scotia. Lost or found, they will be left to nature or chance. Hopefully for someone to find. The sculpture is all figurative fragments or small busts. Each piece is fitted with an identity tag directing the finder to this web site which will then describe the origins of the piece that they have found. I put these sculptures in places that would not be inaccessible but not immediately obvious. Many of the pieces are designed to blend into their environment. The project is monitored over time and open ended. There is no precise way to determine the end point."

    I tried to find an email contact at your site but no luck, so I'm sending it here.

    I have no relationship with the artist in question, I just saw it on the CBC TV news and thought of your hobby.

    - Paul

  207. Malware. Seriously. by Pliny · · Score: 1

    If I were stuck in the questioner's position, I'd be seriously considering malware as a publication method. After all, having your political message spamed by dictator@repressive.gov might carry some weight with your target audience.

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    What does this button d$#%* NO CARRIER
  208. A serious reply. by Lordplatypus · · Score: 1

    The only way is wireless / satellites. As long as it can be tracked, it will be tracked. China, for example, has proven that it more than willing to go to the effort to suppress dissenting voices.

    What is needed is access via a medium that is untraceable or out of their realm of influence.

    I personally do not know the real details, but I was talking to someone a few years ago and they were telling me about how the missionaries going to South America from the US were taking laptops with satellite hookups and Solar Cells. The satellites were being launched for free by NASA because they were designed to be exactly the same dimension and mass as some equipment that was normally ejected as ballast or something. (Again, I don't really know the details.)

    I can tell you, if I honestly felt that there was a place that I could donate money too that would help to allow a level of free speech to people within repressive governments, I would do it.

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    Diplomacy is the art of saying, 'Nice doggie!' till you can find a rock.-- Wynn Catlin
  209. SSL web proxy with steg? by Jack+Taylor · · Score: 1

    What would be really cool is if you could hide your SSL web proxy traffic by disguising it as jpegs or mp3s or other such things. Even better, disguise it as normal, valid http traffic! With this no-one would even suspect you were using an encrypted connection, much less see what you are sending and receiving. As long as the server and client both know the procedure for stegging and de-stegging (maybe the first time this could be done in person, and thereafter each change in procedure could be both stegged and pgp-ed) it would be ok. Together with a (custom?) knoppix cd with the 'noswap' option this could be a winner. Anyone know of anything like this that exists?

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    One good turn - gets all the covers.
  210. Re:why not just leave America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hah! You got a flamebait. If they only knew...

  211. Anything Posted Here is Compromised by reallocate · · Score: 1

    >> Any suggestions for products/procedures/systems out there making anonymous access & publishing a reality under repressive regime run Internet access?

    1. Slashdot is a public forum. You need to assume that anything posted here is compromised. I.e., the people your friends want to hide from are reading this, too. That means anything anyone recommends here is not safe to use.

    2. If the "other side" controls the "last mile" that connects your friends' computers to the net, they have access to every bit that leaves their machines.

    3. Do you know if the idea you adopt wasn't deliberately posted here by the "other side"? No, you don't.

    Good luck.

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    -- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
    1. Re:Anything Posted Here is Compromised by DocMurphy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I understand this. however your idea is flawed. Many OSS encryption programs exists, but they are not useless simply because they are OSS. They are less likely to have flaws because of peer review.

      It is my hope that the best ideas found here will give me a starting point to develop a better answer.

    2. Re:Anything Posted Here is Compromised by reallocate · · Score: 1

      Encryption? Who's talking about encryption? Or peer review for that matter?

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      -- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
    3. Re:Anything Posted Here is Compromised by ediron2 · · Score: 1
      Hardly. Check my comments higher up in this thread ( here, here, here, here. I'm not going to rehash those (you can see me fizzling out by the 4th msg, above), but the ability to *bury* your communication so that it is indetectable is less about using curl or some other obscure/rare protocol (I feel you're absolutely right by implying that going that route makes you stand out until it increases your risks of getting in trouble and more about picking a plausible and hard-to-eavesdrop high-traffic protocol to bury your traffic in.

      I am a big fan of Westheimer's Conclusion (frank, not ruth's) that scientists will spend a year in the lab to avoid a day in the research library. This shows up every day: wasting hours using computer-editing tools when five minutes with scissors, white-out and a copier (or a few markers) will work as well, or in the case of crypto, devising some elaborate technical means when brush-passes, blind drops, mail drops, and so many other means of communication work effectively, provide deniability, and 'hide in plain sight'.

      Changing the subject: Several people have written that anonymous dissident activity is worthless. Since writing these other posts earlier today, I happened to read a few pages of 'Freakonomics'. They happened to be startlingly relevant pages. I suggest that anyone thinking that anonymous information is worthless (repeatedly screeched out here) google 'Stetson Kennedy KKK' to read how he was able to hurt the KKK by leaking their secrets to writers for the 'Adventures of Superman' radio program.

      Information, even anonymous information, can be powerful.

    4. Re:Anything Posted Here is Compromised by reallocate · · Score: 1

      Essentially, I made two points:

      1. That public discussion by "dissidents" about the best way to hide on the Internet is inherently risky. You have no way to be certain the people you want to hide from aren't also listening to the discussion and, therefore, aqcquiring the ability to attempt to compromise every suggested method. Or, they may, in fact, join the discussion and suggest methods they know they have compromised.

      2. If the other side has access to your data stream as it leaves your computer (not an unlikely scenario for anyone living where the regime controls the media and communications infrastructure)then you can never be certain that you aren't compromised, regardless of the encryption and anonymizing tools you use.

      AS you suggest, other methods of communicating might be a better alterative, but those do not involve the Internet.

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      -- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
    5. Re:Anything Posted Here is Compromised by Killer+Instinct · · Score: 1

      If we throw out 100 ideas, and the dissidents choose 1 w/o informing us, then the goal has been accomplished. As usual the best place to hide is in plain site. Or use Al-Jazeera (non internet of course), they seem to do a decent job of hiding their sources....

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    6. Re:Anything Posted Here is Compromised by reallocate · · Score: 1

      >> If we throw out 100 ideas, and the dissidents choose 1 w/o informing us, then the goal has been accomplished.

      Wrong. All the Bad Guys need to do is work through each of those 100 ideas until they catch their dissidents.

      Besides, you do not know if some of those ideas weren't posted here by the Bad Guys in the first place.

      Because you cannot block access by the Bad Guys to the discussion here, or know with certainty that they are not posting here, the entire discussion is compromised.

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      -- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
  212. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Syria is a terrorist country. Look what they did in Lebanon.

  213. Mathematical solution by danila · · Score: 1

    I was wondering, is there a possibility to create an unbreakable anonymity solution. Kinda like public key encryption - something that relies on mathematical laws to be practically unbreakable.

    It would be great if there was a possibility to inject encrypted messages from many sources in a processor, have this processor do some math and come up with the messages without knowning who was the source of which. Is this possible? Do we know that it's impossible? Can this be possible? Is someone working on this? Any ideas?

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    Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
  214. Satellite Internet? by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1
    One possible answer would be to use Sattelite internet. This way you could bypass any oppressive filtering the government may be doing on the internet they supply.

    It be best to buy the satellite internet reciever, hardware,etc. in the USA (or other free country), and then ship it into the country in question. You could then set up the reciever almost anywhere (including middle of the desert, rooftops,etc.), and still be able to get to the internet. Best of all, the company that owns the satellite is the one that is providing the internet, and therefore would probably not filter it. Also, it is almost impossible for the oppressive govnerment to know that you are using satellite internet, as long as you keep your interent presence anonymous (and you keep your physical location a guarded secret).

    An excellent website that shows satellite internet coverage around the world is: http://www.satsig.net/ivsat.htm.

  215. It looks like we all just blew it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many government databases do you think everyone posting in this thread has just gotten themselves into?

  216. Re:I hope I'm not the only one thinking it by DocMurphy · · Score: 1

    I'm glad you think so. Pepper is still just as spicy when it is hidden amonst dirt.

  217. Which regimes? by Emetophobe · · Score: 1
    I'm working with some dissidents who are looking for ways to use the Internet from within repressive regimes.
    You mean like United States?
  218. Well... by Mechcozmo · · Score: 1
    If you have a phone, just dial them up! If you are worried about them tapping your phone then:

    Just mail a floppy disk with a picture on it... but a very high-res picture. And at the bottom-right, just a few pixels are changed to read the message. It could work with a number of images, or one image in a number of places. That way, it is unbreakable unless the images are viewed directly.

  219. spread spectrum radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A key idea can be taken from spread spectrum radio. Such a radio transmits for very short periods then switches to some other random frequency. Call it "frequency hopping". Anyone listenig that does not know the pattern of frequency hops hears what sounds like background noise. In fact the transmitter's AVERAGE power in any one channel in below the noise background. Applied to the Internet you would chop up the message and send the small parts out over a long period of time appended to data packets that you would normally send out anyways. Many Internet protocols have unused fields that sometimes get filled with random "trash". You replace this "trash" with little bits of the encrypted message.
    So for example your e-mail is hidded inside DNS querries or HTTP "Get" requests or whatever.
    Going one step further, don't put encrypted email in the packets. Use the space to transport the bits for a VPN. Then you have a low bandwidth invisable IP network piggybacked on the public Internet. Who knows? Someone maybe doing this now.

  220. Mod Parent +Way Up by handy_vandal · · Score: 1

    Your post is a public service message to humanity. Kudos.

    -kgj

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  221. Except.. your still vunerable to man-in-the-middle by HighOrbit · · Score: 1

    Because the hypothetical government probably also controls (or can gain control upon order) of the routers, you will always be vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks. Not even a SSH or SSL connection can be trusted in that kind of situation. So, if they are suspicious of you to begin with, they will intercept your traffic from the beginning .

  222. anon web access by FedGeek · · Score: 1

    As a forensics specialist for Homeland Security, I've been exposed to a number of interesting software products and hacks. One that continues to impress is VM ware. The user can not only spoof an IP, he/she can spoof the MAC address, so that the captured MAC by the repressive government in question is not real, and therefore is not tracable back to the user. Hope this can be useful. Good Luck!

  223. Kinda puts "Bush == Hitler" in perspective, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When there are places in the world where merely being suspected of doing what the parent poster mentions can get you and your whole family summarily shot, those anencephalic dolts who claim "Bush is worse than Hitler" or similar sure sound like prepubescent brain-damaged trolls who have lost their bridge.

  224. Kenosis by eries · · Score: 1

    I'm one of the developers of Kenosis a p2p RPC system, and this is a problem we've pondered from time to time. If anyone has ideas for practical steps that we could implement to make the software generally useful to actual dissidents, please feel free to join our mailing list and let us know. http://kenosis.sf.net/

  225. Ummm freenet? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    While it wont get around using a 'compromised' machine, on a safe machine using freenet would let you post ( and read ) safely.

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  226. may not be anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tor sez: "This is experimental software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity."

    Besides, as already said, the gov might know you are using tor and block it, etc...

  227. In Soviet Russia by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 1

    Homing Pigeon always worked for me.

  228. Like the PATRIOT act? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, you mean like the PATRIOT act?

  229. Historically ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Historically dissidents always wrote very obscurely, essentially in code. For example, the Book of Revelations is believed by many scholars to be a political commentary.

    Then, even if they decrypt and keylog they still have to prove that what you've written is actually dissident.

    The best obscure language would be something that looks innocent and common for internet, such as gaming or porn.

  230. Ehh? by Whyte · · Score: 1

    How does that take into account the "revisionist" and "post-revisionist" trends in historical research?

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  231. LiveCD and modified keyboard by jhubbard · · Score: 1

    You'll need a LiveCD, a modified keyboard, and mouse. The keyboard will need to have a key generator and a LCD readout. The LCD readout will display a generated key. This will be used as the initial seed value. The LiveCD will need to have special keyboard drivers and software. The goal is to allow the user to enter the initial cipher key using graphical mouse input. The encryption generator in the keyboard will periodically rotate the key. To prevent statistical analysis attacks the keybard should send a continuous stream of data.

    This should prevent key loggers. You'll need to bring you're own keyboard though.

  232. True Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Write it on a box that is never connected to any network and that you have checked the hardware for. Boot knoppix with noswap, write it, encrypt and "hide" it, drop it on a keydrive, take it to a random net cafe youve never been to, act like a moron and ask someone to help you email grandma your "pictures"... ...Or...

    Build a cryptex (complete with vinager vial), write the note on parchment (perferably encrypted using ceasers box or some stronger method), place the note in the cryptex and strap it to a carrier pigeon.

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    Dersursine

  233. erm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no way i'm reading this whole thread but isn't this question asking for information that would be dangerous in the hands of criminals or terrorists?

    if so an unfortunate downside.

  234. aka Thomas Paine, Alexander Hamilton, etc. by geekotourist · · Score: 1
    Paine's anti-slave-trade essay was written by "Justice and Humanity." His Common Sense came out anonymously: only later did he choose to be named as its author. And then a little later he went back to anonymity as 'Forester' to discuss Common Sense further. The Federalist Papers weren't as provokative as anti-slavery or anti-British-rule writings, but Hamilton, Madison and Jay still chose to publish anonymously.

    Certainly one can't claim that these people weren't willing to fight for their ideals. And they thought anonymous writing was a valid (useful / legal / legitimate) way to bring about democracy and political change.

  235. Eastern European Democracy, may you not forget! by n1_111 · · Score: 1

    I run a cgi proxy server for all of my fellow country men of Belarus, to help the democratic fight. http://byelarus.com/members

  236. Pig Latin is suX0r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but has your friend considered using l33t5p34k ? It's uncrackable, and using it automatically makes you the most haX0r d00d since Che Guevara!

    133t5p34k , it's not just for script kiddies anymore!

    1. Re:Pig Latin is suX0r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, somehow the topic brought out the inner 13 year old in me. If it's not already obvious, the joke is for the benefit (if any) of /.ers - I'm sure it's not funny at all if you're a dissident in an opressive regime, so while I don't have any expertise in security or encryption or much of anything else, I wish your friend the best. With all the other news on /. and in the papers in the last year (like congress reviewing the Patriot Act, and designated "free speech zones" at the Democratic and Republican National Conventions, for instance), maybe your friend can take some cold comfort in the fact that we in the US have some of the same problems, albeit probably to a much lesser degree. When Dubya uses words like "democracy" and "freedom", all I hear is "Orwellian" and "McCarthyism."

      I will now step off my soapbox, and again wish your friend the best of luck.

  237. NO, it is NOT!! by Halvy · · Score: 1

    HOWEVER, it would abviously be a danger in the hands of people 'like you', and most agents of the worlds government (who are the ONLY 'REAL' terrorists) :)

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  238. or.. by Halvy · · Score: 1

    dont' support your country(s) (arswhole leaders & supporters), but run them out, and stay :)

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  239. hmmm.. by Halvy · · Score: 1

    if u really are a fed, then i suggest you prepare for a different job and otherwise cya.. cuz 'we' (ie they, ur bosses) can't have our men helping individuals gain acess to tools for 'freedom's' sake, now can we ;)

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  240. Do's and donts about access: by Eternal+Annoyance · · Score: 1

    DO use /public/ wireless access points (preferably multiple).
    DO keep moving (prevent them from triangulating your position.
    DO keep changeing your IP and MAC.
    DO use encryption - preferably a method which does not look like garbage.
    DO use /multiple/ proxies and maybe privoxy.
    DO use crowded areas - ppl moving from A to B behave different then ppl looking for something/someone.
    DON'T keep your contact listings and documents on your computer or on a computer in your nation - if you get compromised, your contact list and/or documents won't be compromised.
    DON'T use linux, freebsd or windows - they are too main stream.
    DON'T buy /any/ hardware produced in your home country - it is probably compromised.
    DON'T use your home computer and/or public terminals for "dissident activities". Assume them to be insecure and compromised.

  241. WHAT! WHAT DO YOU MEAN!! by Halvy · · Score: 1
    you must be a terrorist by suggesting the usa is a represive regime!!

    Paraphrase from george bush; "..you are either with us, or you are with the enemy..)

    Thought police! THOUGHT POLICE!! OVER HERE, GET THIS MAN!!!

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    I will gladly loose all of life's battles.. in order to win the war..
  242. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by ccmay · · Score: 1
    Ever thought that these countries aren't really terrorist nations at all, but simply labelled by a few countries because it serves their own agenda?

    No.

    -ccm

    --
    Too much Law; not enough Order.
  243. Re:Except.. your still vunerable to man-in-the-mid by aminorex · · Score: 1

    It's only public-key SSL that is vulnerable to MITM.
    If you use client certs, that goes away.

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    -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
  244. more info on tcp over radio.. by Halvy · · Score: 1
    http://www.echolink.org/ or http://irlp.net/

    and google (with the quotes on): "radio over tcp" to geta bunch of data on this alternative way of acessing the InterNet :)

    --
    I will gladly loose all of life's battles.. in order to win the war..
  245. thats funny!! by Halvy · · Score: 1
    you shudda been given alot more points.. but don't feel bad, i noticed alot of people aren't getting any mode points after putting alot of effort into their postings..

    i guess it's the weekend :)

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    I will gladly loose all of life's battles.. in order to win the war..
  246. "repressive regimes" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What; you afraid your mom is going to catch you looking up p0rn again? Give your secret-agent handshake a rest, d00d.

  247. ssh is confidential, but easily traced by EventHorizon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do not confuse authentication, confidentiality, and tracability.

    authentication: third parties cannot alter your communication; the party you are talking to is who you expect.

    confidentiality: third parties cannot read your communication

    tracability: third parties cannot determine who you are and/or with whom you are communicating (i.e. they can't map to meatspace)

    The most critical factor for dissidents is tracability.

    While ssh provides authentication and encryption, it does NOT, on its own, decrease tracability. Most governments (and in the US, corporations) can easily trace a basic IP connection, even if they can't read or write the traffic on it. Just follow the wire.

    Remember: who you talk to can be at least as sensitive as what you say.

    1. Re:ssh is confidential, but easily traced by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      Very true. The primary reason it is difficult to trace is that the trace ends at the ssh terminal, as long as the government cannot access that box. If you are in the US (then I wouldn't call you a dissident anyway!), then you can pretty much assume that the NSA can trace you no matter what (everyone is friendly enough to provide info or dangerous enough to have been hacked). If you are in North Korea, for example, the North Koreans have trouble convincing US or Swiss ISPs to give out connection info.

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      while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
  248. Easy solution by flibberdi · · Score: 1

    Use a mobile with ssh (which you can proxy), that way the only thing that is revealed is the first node the dissident is connecting to. There exists java and symbian clients.

  249. Does the word "Honeyproxy" hold any meaning 4 u? by MacDork · · Score: 1
    All you need to do is tunnel a local port over the ssh connection to a remote proxy.

    Assuming the remote proxy isn't logging the details of your session and your originating IP.

  250. It's called steganography by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

    If you have a phone, just dial them up! If you are worried about them tapping your phone then:

    Taking off on what else I read, always talk as if you were doing something very ordinary: "I'll send you a picture of my grandbaby [| godchild | whatever relative that you actually have], she's such a sweet child."

    Just mail a floppy disk with a picture on it... but a very high-res picture. And at the bottom-right, just a few pixels are changed to read the message.

    Encoding/encrypting a signal inside another 'plaintext' signal like this to hide the fact that there's an encrypted signal is called steganography, but your description is a really crude method of doing it. Google it to find out better methods. It was also mentioned in another comment.

    it is unbreakable unless the images are viewed directly.

    If it's good it will be unbreakable by being viewed directly (and hard to break with much more sophisticated techniques).

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    Tag lost or not installed.
  251. Or, the disidents can just.. by Halvy · · Score: 1
    do like doc implied.. and stand up, en-mass to the few scumbags that are (attempting) to take away their freedoms.

    Although it sounds easier said than done.. what they already are trying to do-- in finding ways to speak freely on the net, is only leading the masses into further enslavement.

    By trying to 'hide everything' and acting like they are doing something wrong (which they are.. legally.. at least in the eyes of the opressive leaders), they (disidents) are ALLOWING the leaders to crush their ability to speak.

    soooo, instead of going through all the trouble (and risk) of 'speaking ones mind' over the net (secretly).. why not 'cooperate' in large numbers, which will turn the tables on the scumbags, when they see; 'The People' rising up in unison (power) to topple the bad leaders.

    after all, the farther you go down the 'leadership' pole, the closer the (army personal, etc) will be to the 'common man', which is good. The ONLY way (like doc implies) to have and keep 'Freedom of Speech', is to CONTINUE to exercise ones ability to do it NO MATTER what!! Guns will not grant everyones right to speak (not even the ones with guns, because someone always has a 'bigger gun')

    if we start to 'sneek around', we will eventualy believe the bad-guys, and decide that it is not worth it any longer to try and speak freely (publicly). :(

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    I will gladly loose all of life's battles.. in order to win the war..
  252. Knoppix or Mepis could help. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any Linux distro that boots from CD tould aliviate fears of keyloggers, etc in inet cafes... All other potential issues (tracking traffic/ eliminating / blocking undesirable sites) would still be in place, however.

  253. The simple answer to this question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a palm treo 650 or something similar and use websites using that crappy browser. Yes, typing manifestos will get annoying. Yes, you can be tracked with it. Buy one with a false name in another country but make sure you get global service coverage.

    Basically the obvious answer is avoid the local ISP. Then switch phones and accounts often.

  254. Re:write in advance, encrypt and get caught by electr01nik · · Score: 1

    I was under the impression that encryption was an export munition, so it could be sent (downloaded?) by citizens of/in counties on the US shitlist. (Irag, Afghaistan, Cuba, Lybia etc.)

  255. Re:write in advance, encrypt and get caught by electr01nik · · Score: 1

    could NOT...could NOT

    I previewed twice and I still missed it...

    ugh...

  256. Hmm, good question. by Stonewolf57 · · Score: 0

    Well, the best solution may be the illegal one. Find a wifi hotspot, free is best if possible, but if you have to pay oh well. If it's a pay for use hotspot, either take the time and effort to hack it and create an unrestricted account, or if you're lazy just snag some else's (provided you don't have to worry about encryption of course). Use MAC changing software (in the past I've been satisfied using SMAC 1.2) and avoid spending large amounts of time at the hotspot to avoid notice. To this end I suggest buying or constructing a wireless antenna so that you can access the hotspot from some distance out of sight. To avoid raising the ire of the general public as possible, I'd suggest hacking the hotspot itself. Make sure to keep it low key, don't drop any virii, trojan's, etc. if you can help it, or do anything that might set sysadmin's on a hunt for a hacker in their vicinity (because even if they can't find you, they can probably still shutoff access to the hotspot). Finally, operate behind anonymous proxies, or proxy-chains, encrypt EVERYTHING (I'd suggest buying a large encrypted harddrive and putting everything except the OS on it). If you're looking to run a website use free services, like Angelfire or, shudder, Geocities, even though that will indeed make you look very much like an amateur. Finally keep the 'Freedom computer' you're using to do all this, seperate from everything else. Don't use it for anything, but you're illegal activites. Play you're games, movies, office documents, whatever you've got, SOMEWHERE ELSE. Obviously, this is not a cheap method of operation. You will need a decent sized cash base to purchase hardware and software. It's also probably not completely fullproof either. Avoid buying anything online that is going to require you to give out your credit card number, or any sort of verifiable ID (of course in some countries card fraud would be a neglible offense compared to some of this stuff so weigh the risk). Avoid anything that might give away your real ip/MAC, either locally or remotely. Don't associate with the clerks/other people at the hotspot, don't get involved with anything in the area. If you can don't even be seen in the area at all. Keep the lowest profile you can. All of this dialog is written with the utmost paranoia. Adjust to suit the level of persucution of freedom in your country. For maximum effect (which I'd personally recommend if your living in a repressive country) I'd suggest closely following these guidelines. Oh btw, if there is someone planning this sort of thing somewhere, I'd suggest running through your plans step by step (numerous times) to check for problems that may get you caught. This was just a quick write-up, I've probably missed a few things, so use commonsense as well.

  257. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by shreevatsa · · Score: 1

    Nope, they run FreeBSD, according to Netcraft.
    So, Netcraft confirms it?

  258. glue by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    When you go to an internet cafe, you have to put glue on your fingertips. It keeps the fingerprints off the keyboard....and try to flirt with the receptionist so she won't turn you in if she catches you....and always wear a hat is good for hiding the tin foil.

    woah, it is too late.

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    Qxe4
  259. If they can control a box... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...then use I2P?

    http://www.i2p.net/

    Better than SSH, as with SSH you need a place to SSH to.

  260. Re:Do it in the open. by polysylabic+psudonym · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah, that worked so well for those chinese students who stood in front of tanks. Publicly stood up for their cause, died for their cause, on international TV even. Their cause? No better off, but westerners felt sorry for them for a few weeks.

  261. Re:Anything PRIVATE is also NOT safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's because you're one of dubyas favourite types of people; The mindless drone, who accepts and follows unquestioningly.

  262. check out my project - Rodi by larytet · · Score: 1
    if you are able to spoof IP address like in Univ. corporate LANs Rodi is a way to go. see http://larytet.sourceforge.net/btRat.shtml

    General anonymity application look also http://www.anonymous-p2p.org/rodi.html http://board.planetpeer.de/index.php is anothe place

  263. Communication & Community by totierne · · Score: 1

    Can people work out how much 'dissidence light' is allowed and get everyone line up at this frontier?

    [A table giving what form of collectiveism is allowed could be maintained, anyone prepared to give it a try, what is 10% of the population ready and able to do which would not get them locked up/reprimanded, in various countries from A to Z including the USA and Venezuela.]

    My own idea of dissidence light is to disseminate the IRA methods and procedures as part of a novel, giving people the capability to go beyond what I am prepared to do personally. This is of course illegal and may be even treason and sedition, [I have a British passport as well as an Irish one] if one takes things literally like I do (it is a geek thing, allegedly).

    VÀCLAV HAVEL did it so much better in the Czech republic, gathering a dissident light community, through absurdist theatre, to build up a civil society that he thought was a necessary precursor to a freer democracy.

    In Estonia there were lots of Choirs that travelled and disseminated information and news across the country before it became independant of the USSR.

    It is interesting to not that mildly repressive regemes may stay in place because old people vote for the current state as they are afraid for their pensions, and it is the minority of young people who are on the streets, ie democracy of a kind is in place it is just that young people are outvoted.

    My 2 cent..

    http://www.swp.ie/ member

  264. Bypass the servers... by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

    If you can get the hardware it might be possible to use some kind of satellite internet service that is based outside of the country in question. Iridium is slow and expensive but should be fairly safe an anonymous if your careful (ie, make sure the signal is shielded in all directions but up)