It seems to me as if just about everybody is trying to milk the Linux cash cow nowadays. This is what I mean:
The Communists: "Linux is communist!" The Anti-Communist Chinese: "Linux is anti-communist!" The Randists: "Linux is randist!" The Libertarians: "Linux is libertarian!" The Open Source Initiative: "Linux is Open Source!" The Free Software Foundation: "Linux is Free Software!"
The only one who isn't playing that game right now is Microsoft, but only because it's in their legal interest to play up Linux as a competitor. But wait until they have been punished by the DoJ, and you know what you'll hear:
As a matter of fact, Naboo is not an industrial planet; R2D2 was probably mass-built by one of the big multinational (multigalactic) electronic companies, likely the same one which built the ship they left Naboo on, and the droids were sold as an add-on to the Naboo military force.
As a matter of fact, Naboo is not an industrial planet; R2D2 was probably mass-built by one of the big multinational (multigalactic) electronic companies, likely the same one which built the ship they left Naboo on, and the droids were sold as an add-on to the Naboo military force.
If you think the hack was funny and/or harmless, then there is no reason to go off like a lunatic trying to kill the invaders off just because they were able to get into your computer. The fact is, it's always going to be possible to do that in one way or the other (whether just through technical expertise or through such techniques as social engineering); it's better to have "good" hackers do this, do no harm and point out the security hole, than to have crackers do this and force you to change the root password and bring the site back up from backups.
It's for fun, you humourless nut. Like turning the MIT Dome into R2D2. It's not necessarily evil or harmful if it's done for fun.
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This is why it's in development and not being called 'complete'.
If that were the case, no Microsoft software should have ever been released - nor should most other software. In fact, one of the sad truths of life is that there will always be bugs - all you can do is code well in order to minimize them.
Although there probably will be Y2K-related problems in Free Software, I'm betting that it won't be in the more popular products (Linux, Emacs, GCC, Zope, etc.), because of Eric's Theorem (if it isn't ESR's, please let me know whose it is): Given enough eyes, all bugs are shallow.
I don't know of any deaths so far (maybe industrial accidents caused by NT-run machinery controllers), but you can expect at least a few big catastrophes come Y2K (especially when you consider that it's pretty unlikely that they have fixed all Y2K problems in Win98/NT SP5/Win2K/whatever.
Yes, I saw it too. Which doesn't rule out that you were dreaming:)
Why the hell did I have to get an iWhac, anyway?!?
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The biggest problem I have with BeOS right now is that it doesn't run on bloody G3's, and that includes my top-of-the-line, fast-as-hell iMac. Which means that whenever I want to use it, I have to switch either to the PMac 7600 or to the Pentium. It really pisses me off, because the two would be a killer combo.
I've been thinking about the notion of creating a Free (as in speech) BeOS clone, like GNU is to Unix. Maybe we could call it FreeBe or something. Personally, I'd do it just to be able to add G3 support (reverse-engineering from LinuxPPC or something). If anyone likes the idea, drop me a note.
P.S.: Anyone else see the irony in this guy being called Scot Hacker?
I'm coming up with a relatively AI-y database system that is intended to store and process information like a mind; it's called the Node-Oriented Database Engine (NODE). It'll be open source, and probably written in Scheme or Common Lisp. If you're interested, email me.
I'm coming up with a relatively AI-y database system that is intended to store and process information like a mind; it's called the Node-Oriented Database Engine (NODE). It'll be open source, and probably written in Scheme or Common Lisp. If you're interested, email me.
I believe that the "OSI-Certified" certification mark is appliable to software licenses, not software packages. The GPL is OSI-Certified by default, so anything you release under it also is.
There seem to be a lot of people who think we should just give up on this and let the electronic criminals take up the name "hacker" once and for all. To this I say hell no, and here's why.
Let's say you're a homosexual. (Whether you actually are one or not isn't relevant.) You're proud of that; being a gay person constitutes an important - almost essential - part of your self-image. You go out on the street, and, when asked, anyone will be able to tell, "yeah, that's a gay person."
Now one fine day, you wake up, and you read on the paper an article about some straights doing something. But waitaminnit - this article referred to these people as gay! Not heterosexuals, not true men, but gays! Being a true gay person, you get pissed off and write an enraged letter to the newspaper, explaining the difference between homosexuals and men in minutious detail, so that the shitheads will not do that again.
But it's too late. The term has caught on - and throughout the world, people are starting to call straight people "gays". Movies are made, books are published. Soon enough, whenever you go, people are talking about these "gays". You meet a nice MOTSS, but you accidentally mention you're gay, and he runs away, thinking you like to sleep with MOTOS.
Now what's this?!? Has the world gone mad?!? Seems rather Kafkaesque, doesn't it? Well, that's pretty much what happened to true hackers in the 1980's.
Conclusion: We are the original owners of the "hacker" sobriquet - it reflects an essential part of our collective history, culture and self-image. And I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bunch of stupid rebellious kids with AOL accounts and way too much media coverage take that away from me.
There seem to be a lot of people who think we should just give up on this and let the electronic criminals take up the name "hacker" once and for all. To this I say hell no, and here's why.
Let's say you're a homosexual. (Whether you actually are one or not isn't relevant.) You're proud of that; being a gay person constitutes an important - almost essential - part of your self-image. You go out on the street, and, when asked, anyone will be able to tell, "yeah, that's a gay person."
Now one fine day, you wake up, and you read on the paper an article about some straights doing something. But waitaminnit - this article referred to these people as gay! Not heterosexuals, not true men, but gays! Being a true gay person, you get pissed off and write an enraged letter to the newspaper, explaining the difference between homosexuals and men in minutious detail, so that the shitheads will not do that again.
But it's too late. The term has caught on - and throughout the world, people are starting to call straight people "gays". Movies are made, books are published. Soon enough, whenever you go, people are talking about these "gays". You meet a nice MOTSS, but you accidentally mention you're gay, and he runs away, thinking you like to sleep with MOTOS.
Now what's this?!? Has the world gone mad?!? Seems rather Kafkaesque, doesn't it? Well, that's pretty much what happened to true hackers in the 1980's.
Conclusion: We are the original owners of the "hacker" sobriquet - it reflects an essential part of our collective history, culture and self-image. And I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bunch of stupid rebellious kids with AOL accounts and way too much media coverage take that away from me.
Hey, Simon, I remember you from the MS Technology BB.
And very funny, by the way. I just wouldn't count on it to run when the applet is updated to, say, Java 3 - after all, the next version of the MS VM will be made to run Visual J++ bytecode only...:)
Neither. The PDP series are minicomputers. Nonetheless, that's something. (BTW, in my high school's library there was a book on PDP-7 programming that dated from the 1960's.)
I fear a support nightmare for developers trying to write Java applications ("Ok, it works fine under the Sun and Blackdown VMs, but it barfs on the HP").
Uh, isn't this already what's happening? Especially when it comes to browser VMs. I don't know about you, but right now I'm downloading HotJava 3 for the sole express purpose of watching that Star Wars ASCIImation thing. Why? Because the Netscape VM breaks when it tries to run it.
Bottomline: language standardization doesn't prevent the problem. Good VM programming does.
You live in Palo Alto. I'm in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (where, incidentally, those companies' products make up for more than 95% of country-wide music sales). And they don't listen to us at all here.
Well, not that I have anything against you or anything, but I'm talking about "real" web sites. (As in, [definition kind="pompous"]self-sufficient functional units of Web content[/definition].) Y'know, web sites, the kind where people go, browse around, download stuff, etc.
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It seems to me as if just about everybody is trying to milk the Linux cash cow nowadays. This is what I mean:
The Communists: "Linux is communist!"
The Anti-Communist Chinese: "Linux is anti-communist!"
The Randists: "Linux is randist!"
The Libertarians: "Linux is libertarian!"
The Open Source Initiative: "Linux is Open Source!"
The Free Software Foundation: "Linux is Free Software!"
The only one who isn't playing that game right now is Microsoft, but only because it's in their legal interest to play up Linux as a competitor. But wait until they have been punished by the DoJ, and you know what you'll hear:
"Linux is Micro$oft software!"
Bah.
As a matter of fact, Naboo is not an industrial planet; R2D2 was probably mass-built by one of the big multinational (multigalactic) electronic companies, likely the same one which built the ship they left Naboo on, and the droids were sold as an add-on to the Naboo military force.
(Boy, do I feel geeky!)
As a matter of fact, Naboo is not an industrial planet; R2D2 was probably mass-built by one of the big multinational (multigalactic) electronic companies, likely the same one which built the ship they left Naboo on, and the droids were sold as an add-on to the Naboo military force.
If you think the hack was funny and/or harmless, then there is no reason to go off like a lunatic trying to kill the invaders off just because they were able to get into your computer. The fact is, it's always going to be possible to do that in one way or the other (whether just through technical expertise or through such techniques as social engineering); it's better to have "good" hackers do this, do no harm and point out the security hole, than to have crackers do this and force you to change the root password and bring the site back up from backups.
"Open source: a great new way of development... since 1959." Sheesh.
It's for fun, you humourless nut. Like turning the MIT Dome into R2D2. It's not necessarily evil or harmful if it's done for fun.
This is why it's in development and not being called 'complete'.
If that were the case, no Microsoft software should have ever been released - nor should most other software. In fact, one of the sad truths of life is that there will always be bugs - all you can do is code well in order to minimize them.
Although there probably will be Y2K-related problems in Free Software, I'm betting that it won't be in the more popular products (Linux, Emacs, GCC, Zope, etc.), because of Eric's Theorem (if it isn't ESR's, please let me know whose it is): Given enough eyes, all bugs are shallow.
I don't know of any deaths so far (maybe industrial accidents caused by NT-run machinery controllers), but you can expect at least a few big catastrophes come Y2K (especially when you consider that it's pretty unlikely that they have fixed all Y2K problems in Win98/NT SP5/Win2K/whatever.
Yes, I saw it too. Which doesn't rule out that you were dreaming :)
The biggest problem I have with BeOS right now is that it doesn't run on bloody G3's, and that includes my top-of-the-line, fast-as-hell iMac. Which means that whenever I want to use it, I have to switch either to the PMac 7600 or to the Pentium. It really pisses me off, because the two would be a killer combo.
I've been thinking about the notion of creating a Free (as in speech) BeOS clone, like GNU is to Unix. Maybe we could call it FreeBe or something. Personally, I'd do it just to be able to add G3 support (reverse-engineering from LinuxPPC or something). If anyone likes the idea, drop me a note.
P.S.: Anyone else see the irony in this guy being called Scot Hacker?
I'm coming up with a relatively AI-y database system that is intended to store and process information like a mind; it's called the Node-Oriented Database Engine (NODE). It'll be open source, and probably written in Scheme or Common Lisp. If you're interested, email me.
I'm coming up with a relatively AI-y database system that is intended to store and process information like a mind; it's called the Node-Oriented Database Engine (NODE). It'll be open source, and probably written in Scheme or Common Lisp. If you're interested, email me.
I don't want to be flamed for just saying "First Post", so let's come up with something interesting.
Oh yes. What is crack.com? The newest drugdealer site?
I believe that the "OSI-Certified" certification mark is appliable to software licenses, not software packages. The GPL is OSI-Certified by default, so anything you release under it also is.
There seem to be a lot of people who think we should just give up on this and let the electronic criminals take up the name "hacker" once and for all. To this I say hell no, and here's why.
Let's say you're a homosexual. (Whether you actually are one or not isn't relevant.) You're proud of that; being a gay person constitutes an important - almost essential - part of your self-image. You go out on the street, and, when asked, anyone will be able to tell, "yeah, that's a gay person."
Now one fine day, you wake up, and you read on the paper an article about some straights doing something. But waitaminnit - this article referred to these people as gay! Not heterosexuals, not true men, but gays! Being a true gay person, you get pissed off and write an enraged letter to the newspaper, explaining the difference between homosexuals and men in minutious detail, so that the shitheads will not do that again.
But it's too late. The term has caught on - and throughout the world, people are starting to call straight people "gays". Movies are made, books are published. Soon enough, whenever you go, people are talking about these "gays". You meet a nice MOTSS, but you accidentally mention you're gay, and he runs away, thinking you like to sleep with MOTOS.
Now what's this?!? Has the world gone mad?!? Seems rather Kafkaesque, doesn't it? Well, that's pretty much what happened to true hackers in the 1980's.
Conclusion: We are the original owners of the "hacker" sobriquet - it reflects an essential part of our collective history, culture and self-image. And I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bunch of stupid rebellious kids with AOL accounts and way too much media coverage take that away from me.
There seem to be a lot of people who think we should just give up on this and let the electronic criminals take up the name "hacker" once and for all. To this I say hell no, and here's why.
Let's say you're a homosexual. (Whether you actually are one or not isn't relevant.) You're proud of that; being a gay person constitutes an important - almost essential - part of your self-image. You go out on the street, and, when asked, anyone will be able to tell, "yeah, that's a gay person."
Now one fine day, you wake up, and you read on the paper an article about some straights doing something. But waitaminnit - this article referred to these people as gay! Not heterosexuals, not true men, but gays! Being a true gay person, you get pissed off and write an enraged letter to the newspaper, explaining the difference between homosexuals and men in minutious detail, so that the shitheads will not do that again.
But it's too late. The term has caught on - and throughout the world, people are starting to call straight people "gays". Movies are made, books are published. Soon enough, whenever you go, people are talking about these "gays". You meet a nice MOTSS, but you accidentally mention you're gay, and he runs away, thinking you like to sleep with MOTOS.
Now what's this?!? Has the world gone mad?!? Seems rather Kafkaesque, doesn't it? Well, that's pretty much what happened to true hackers in the 1980's.
Conclusion: We are the original owners of the "hacker" sobriquet - it reflects an essential part of our collective history, culture and self-image. And I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bunch of stupid rebellious kids with AOL accounts and way too much media coverage take that away from me.
Hey, Simon, I remember you from the MS Technology BB.
:)
And very funny, by the way. I just wouldn't count on it to run when the applet is updated to, say, Java 3 - after all, the next version of the MS VM will be made to run Visual J++ bytecode only...
Neither. The PDP series are minicomputers. Nonetheless, that's something. (BTW, in my high school's library there was a book on PDP-7 programming that dated from the 1960's.)
Uh, isn't this already what's happening? Especially when it comes to browser VMs. I don't know about you, but right now I'm downloading HotJava 3 for the sole express purpose of watching that Star Wars ASCIImation thing. Why? Because the Netscape VM breaks when it tries to run it.
Bottomline: language standardization doesn't prevent the problem. Good VM programming does.
Waitaminnit, waitaminnit... DB2 is proprietary. Doesn't this mean that the Turbo-Linux package as a whole no longer classifies as Free Software?
You live in Palo Alto. I'm in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (where, incidentally, those companies' products make up for more than 95% of country-wide music sales). And they don't listen to us at all here.
I don't think it's a firewall problem, because I got that error accessing the page from a regular dial-up connection. Weird.
"Applet SwPlay can't start: class SwPlay got a security violation: method verification error". Awesome. ;)
(For the Java whizzes out there: Nutscrape Canonicator 4.5 on MacOS 8.5. Diagnose this!)
Well, not that I have anything against you or anything, but I'm talking about "real" web sites. (As in, [definition kind="pompous"]self-sufficient functional units of Web content[/definition].) Y'know, web sites, the kind where people go, browse around, download stuff, etc.