"BT stumbled upon the patent during a routine update of its 15,000 global patents in the summer of 2000."
They didn't even know they had it, first of all. Their patent expires in the year 2006 in the US. What happens if you don't defend a patent (I am not a lawyer, I am curious if anything changes if you don't defend a patent)
Plus, this patent is so general. And here is their evidence:
Prodigy's unlikely saviour comes in the form of a fuzzy black and white video which shows a 1968 demonstration by Stanford computer researcher Douglas Engelbart apparently demonstrating hypertext linking.
I would like to see this video... Seriously, though, I think this is going to be a huge PR disaster when this blows up in their face. Not only do they look like desperate bastards, but also like idiots trying to claim a patent like "the flying machine" entitles them to the royalties of airplanes, helicopters, gliders, etc. (Ana analogy the article pointed out.
Google is and has been profitable. They are a private company that makes a profit. I don' know where all this crap comes about "finally Google can make a profit...". Google is expaning their already successful busines...
No, I've got Word 2.0c right here and it does not do links. Sorry, buddy. And, I've got the most up to date version of DOS installed too, so you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Exactly. In rebute of the thread's parent, Google doesn't need to "find" a valid business model. They have one, and have had one for quite some time. Google is a profitable comapany (albeit a private one). They make money. If you make money, that is a valid business model.
He was asking genuinely if anyone knew what hardware would be used, and made a guess based upon all of his knowledge (admitting that his knowledge was limited).
07.Feb.02--Sun Microsystems has embraced the Linux operating system, rolling out a multipart program that will significantly broaden the offerings of Linux on low-end Sun servers and commit new resources to the ongoing development of the Open Source operating system.
The program, announced Thursday, comprises three ambitious goals to be met in the coming year.
Sun will ship for the first time a full implementation of Linux on a new line of general-purpose servers aimed at providing "edge" services to environments such as workgroups and remote offices. New single- and multiprocessor systems, to be announced mid-year, will use the x86 architecture and be capable of running thousands of Linux applications natively.
Sun will dramatically expand its line of Sun Cobalt[tm] Linux appliances, the world's leading Linux-based appliance systems. Look for innovations beyond the current eight-inch-square Qube[tm] and the 1.75-inch-high rack-mountable configurations. Sun's Cobalt server appliances start around $1000 and have an installed base of more than 100,000 units.
Sun plans to participate more aggressively in the Linux developer community by freely offering key components of its Solaris[tm] operating environment software, and by releasing tools to help developers ensure compatibility between the two Unix[R] derivatives.
Delivering Value
Sun's commitment to the Linux operating system brings additional value to customers of its Solaris/SPARC[tm] architecture. Already, Sun systems have built-in compatibility with Linux, so that any Solaris-based system can also run Linux applications. New software such as Linux Compatibility Toolkit (LinCAT), announced today, can help simplify the process of assuring that Linux applications will run on the Sun Fire[tm] family of servers. And in the future, Sun's upcoming Solaris 9 Operating Environment will provide additional built-in Linux commands, utilities, and interfaces.
For Linux users, the new program will make key Sun[tm] Open Net Environment (Sun ONE) technologies available to the Linux platform, including the iPlanet[tm] Directory and Web servers, Forte[tm] for Java[tm] development tools, the Java/XML platform, Project JXTA, StarOffice[tm] productivity suite, Sun[tm] Chili!Soft ASP, and the Sun Grid Engine.
"We will now offer our customers an incredible value proposition by delivering our binary-compatible industry-leading SPARC/Solaris system family, which starts at less than one thousand and goes to nearly ten million dollars, along with our new Sun Linux low-end servers and Sun Cobalt appliances for emerging edge services applications," said Ed Zander, Sun's president and chief operating officer. "And with our Sun ONE Java- and XML-based software platform, developers can write to one software platform and run their applications or services across a vast array of systems."
Open for Business
Sun is already one of the largest providers of intellectual property to the Open Source development effort.
Sun today contributes resources and technology to free and open source projects including: OpenOffice.org, GNOME.org, Mozilla.org, Apache.org, NetBeans.org, X.org, WBEMsource Initiative, the University of Michigan NFS version 4 Linux port, the Grid Engine Project, and Project JXTA.
Now, Sun plans to take an even more active role in contributing software and expertise to the Open Source software movement.
"We have some of the industry's most advanced Unix, Java, and XML experts now working to advance Linux with the key mission-critical features of the Java platform and Solaris operating environment," Zander said. "By adding the Linux community to the hundreds of thousands of Solaris developers, and the nearly three million Java/XML developers, Sun's customers have unified access to the broadest array of innovation in the industry on which to provide services. Sun remains the best open business opportunity for developers."
Pushing the Envelope
Sun is working on a number of fronts to support and further the work being done in the Open Source community, and on the Linux code base in particular.
Today, Sun released an application development tool, ABIcheck, to the Open Source community; the tool helps ensure compatibility between Linux releases.
In the future, Sun will offer contributions to the Linux kernel.
Sun will expand its partnerships with the Linux community to provide native support of Linux on SPARC systems for both the telecommunications and embedded markets. Companies such as SuSE and Lineo support Linux native on Sun's SPARC microprocessors today.
Lineo will adapt and support Lineo's Embedix embedded Linux operating system on UltraSPARC[tm] processor-based end user-developed custom hardware.
Sun will support its Linux products with a rich set of support and professional services.
Sun will support Linux on its key StorEdge[tm] line of storage systems and software.
GNOME, the most advanced Linux user environment, will become the preferred desktop for Solaris when GNOME 2.0 begins shipping later this year.
I completely believe you and agree with you, but the hacker in me still wants to do this mod, just to see how long the hard drive will last.
Also, we all know that "clear case window" mods sprung up years ago, and now you can buy cases with clear windows built in (no modding necessary).
Do you guys think in the future you will be able to buy hard drives with clear covers from the factory? It would seem to me that some people would buy them, and all they would have to do is design a different cover for the drive, then sell it for more money. Anyway, what do you think?
I know you know this, but you could get a tape drive. And I am sure you also that "If you can't afford to lose your data, you can afford to back it up".
I am not trying to be an ass, just a reminder to all of us to back things up when important. I don't back my drives up either, I just some a blind faith that my hard drives will last until I get new ones. If my drives did stop working, it would REALLY suck, but it wouldn't suck so bad that it would cause major problems or ruin my life.
You are right for now, unfortunately. I can't wait for the day when I will have fibre running into my house just like the telephone line runs in today, though. It will happen in my lifetime, but not soon enough.
...And bandwidth will be as plentiful as the grains of sand in the desert...
Oh, I see now, thank you. I guess then I would just have to ask, why not when testing a card, give the lowest fps reached? Wouldn't that give a better approximation of how good a card would be when you need that extra grunt to ge tyou through the thick scenes?
You are right, and I don't think the book is that expensive anyways. I mean, come on, people, support the people you like, and don't support the people you don't like.
For instance, I will definately buy this book, but I will not buy any CD's because I do not want to support the RIAA, and that's where most of my money will be going. I don't mind supporting a publisher and the author for work which I think is hilarious.
Exactly. And after you crucify the user and burn the cross, if you are a true BOFH, the other users will come and thank you, and ask if you can do the same for them. This, is a key element to Bastard-Operator-From-Hellness.
Will someone elighten me on this whole fps thing? I am just a casual gamer, but normal TV is just under 30 fps, and it looks like full motion video. So, could you evn tell if something was over 30fps? At a certain point your eyes wouldn't be able to detect any difference, correct? If you can get 30 fps, is there any real advantage to having, say, 50fps?
You're right. I am sick and tired of people screaming bloody murder anytime 802.11b is mentioned and how insecure it will be (and then they get modded up as insighfull?!?!?)
802.11b can be made pretty secure, and it's not even that hard. Yes, wireless will never be secure as other methods, but it's not a big gaping whole either (or at least it doesn't have to be).
So unless you know what you are talking about,/.ers, don't just continue on the same old rag about how it is not secure.
While I agree with you that this would be a good solution both for the author and for the community, there are some issues.
Chances are if this person went to get his book published, the publisher would then own the right to reproduce the book. Most publishers would not let you write a book and give it away electronically as well (unless you are steven king, etc.).
They just don't think it would make good business sense, and most publishers probably are in the business to make money, not for good will.
I think like you though, if it can be done, it would be a great solution. It won't be easy, though (getting a book published is very hard for those alredy not published).
That would be nice, but GPS has it's limitations. It rarely works completely indoors (i.e. not by a window, etc.), and it's only accurate to about 15 feet at best (unless you get a REALLY expensive GPS receiver... I am talking about the consumer models here).
It has been widely known for quite some time that the Slashdot.org moderators are normally on a form of cocaine, namely Crack. This explains their often eratic and nonsense behavior. Don't believe me? Post!
Well said. I also go to BSU, and I see a lot of people working much harder than I have to, and I am working full time and taking full time credits. yet, there are people doing what I am doing, plus support a family and kids, and maybe trying to pay for a house at the same time.
so, i know i am working hard, but I know there are people working much harder than I - and that is what keeps me going. That, and the hope that one day I will leave the "ratrace" and graduate in a year or two.
very well said. I hat people that say it can't be done - you are right in that they are just saying "it's too hard and I don't want to put forth the effort".
Slashdot Mirror
Here are my favorite parts of the article:
"BT stumbled upon the patent during a routine update of its 15,000 global patents in the summer of 2000."
They didn't even know they had it, first of all. Their patent expires in the year 2006 in the US. What happens if you don't defend a patent (I am not a lawyer, I am curious if anything changes if you don't defend a patent)
Plus, this patent is so general. And here is their evidence:
Prodigy's unlikely saviour comes in the form of a fuzzy black and white video which shows a 1968 demonstration by Stanford computer researcher Douglas Engelbart apparently demonstrating hypertext linking.
I would like to see this video... Seriously, though, I think this is going to be a huge PR disaster when this blows up in their face. Not only do they look like desperate bastards, but also like idiots trying to claim a patent like "the flying machine" entitles them to the royalties of airplanes, helicopters, gliders, etc. (Ana analogy the article pointed out.
how low cna you go?
Google is and has been profitable. They are a private company that makes a profit. I don' know where all this crap comes about "finally Google can make a profit...". Google is expaning their already successful busines...
No, I've got Word 2.0c right here and it does not do links. Sorry, buddy. And, I've got the most up to date version of DOS installed too, so you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Exactly. In rebute of the thread's parent, Google doesn't need to "find" a valid business model. They have one, and have had one for quite some time. Google is a profitable comapany (albeit a private one). They make money. If you make money, that is a valid business model.
I like your sig. Made me laught out loud. Also made me remember what a piece of shit edlin was. :)
Speaking of Grand Theft Auto 3, does anyone know when the PC version will be coming out?
So what you are saying is that these would work well in space (not in the shuttle per se, but in the vacuum of space)? That would rule!
I find it funny that we can file our taxes over the internet to the IRS, but we can't get an anonymous voting system put together.
does that seem odd to anyone else?
He was asking genuinely if anyone knew what hardware would be used, and made a guess based upon all of his knowledge (admitting that his knowledge was limited).
And all he got was a smart ass remark.
only on slashdot...
07.Feb.02--Sun Microsystems has embraced the Linux operating system, rolling out a multipart program that will significantly broaden the offerings of Linux on low-end Sun servers and commit new resources to the ongoing development of the Open Source operating system.
The program, announced Thursday, comprises three ambitious goals to be met in the coming year.
Sun will ship for the first time a full implementation of Linux on a new line of general-purpose servers aimed at providing "edge" services to environments such as workgroups and remote offices. New single- and multiprocessor systems, to be announced mid-year, will use the x86 architecture and be capable of running thousands of Linux applications natively.
Sun will dramatically expand its line of Sun Cobalt[tm] Linux appliances, the world's leading Linux-based appliance systems. Look for innovations beyond the current eight-inch-square Qube[tm] and the 1.75-inch-high rack-mountable configurations. Sun's Cobalt server appliances start around $1000 and have an installed base of more than 100,000 units.
Sun plans to participate more aggressively in the Linux developer community by freely offering key components of its Solaris[tm] operating environment software, and by releasing tools to help developers ensure compatibility between the two Unix[R] derivatives.
Delivering Value
Sun's commitment to the Linux operating system brings additional value to customers of its Solaris/SPARC[tm] architecture. Already, Sun systems have built-in compatibility with Linux, so that any Solaris-based system can also run Linux applications. New software such as Linux Compatibility Toolkit (LinCAT), announced today, can help simplify the process of assuring that Linux applications will run on the Sun Fire[tm] family of servers. And in the future, Sun's upcoming Solaris 9 Operating Environment will provide additional built-in Linux commands, utilities, and interfaces.
For Linux users, the new program will make key Sun[tm] Open Net Environment (Sun ONE) technologies available to the Linux platform, including the iPlanet[tm] Directory and Web servers, Forte[tm] for Java[tm] development tools, the Java/XML platform, Project JXTA, StarOffice[tm] productivity suite, Sun[tm] Chili!Soft ASP, and the Sun Grid Engine.
"We will now offer our customers an incredible value proposition by delivering our binary-compatible industry-leading SPARC/Solaris system family, which starts at less than one thousand and goes to nearly ten million dollars, along with our new Sun Linux low-end servers and Sun Cobalt appliances for emerging edge services applications," said Ed Zander, Sun's president and chief operating officer. "And with our Sun ONE Java- and XML-based software platform, developers can write to one software platform and run their applications or services across a vast array of systems."
Open for Business
Sun is already one of the largest providers of intellectual property to the Open Source development effort.
Sun today contributes resources and technology to free and open source projects including: OpenOffice.org, GNOME.org, Mozilla.org, Apache.org, NetBeans.org, X.org, WBEMsource Initiative, the University of Michigan NFS version 4 Linux port, the Grid Engine Project, and Project JXTA.
Now, Sun plans to take an even more active role in contributing software and expertise to the Open Source software movement.
"We have some of the industry's most advanced Unix, Java, and XML experts now working to advance Linux with the key mission-critical features of the Java platform and Solaris operating environment," Zander said. "By adding the Linux community to the hundreds of thousands of Solaris developers, and the nearly three million Java/XML developers, Sun's customers have unified access to the broadest array of innovation in the industry on which to provide services. Sun remains the best open business opportunity for developers."
Pushing the Envelope
Sun is working on a number of fronts to support and further the work being done in the Open Source community, and on the Linux code base in particular.
Today, Sun released an application development tool, ABIcheck, to the Open Source community; the tool helps ensure compatibility between Linux releases.
In the future, Sun will offer contributions to the Linux kernel.
Sun will expand its partnerships with the Linux community to provide native support of Linux on SPARC systems for both the telecommunications and embedded markets. Companies such as SuSE and Lineo support Linux native on Sun's SPARC microprocessors today.
Lineo will adapt and support Lineo's Embedix embedded Linux operating system on UltraSPARC[tm] processor-based end user-developed custom hardware.
Sun will support its Linux products with a rich set of support and professional services.
Sun will support Linux on its key StorEdge[tm] line of storage systems and software.
GNOME, the most advanced Linux user environment, will become the preferred desktop for Solaris when GNOME 2.0 begins shipping later this year.
I believe you are talking about either a Radial Arm Saw or a power Miter Saw.
I completely believe you and agree with you, but the hacker in me still wants to do this mod, just to see how long the hard drive will last.
Also, we all know that "clear case window" mods sprung up years ago, and now you can buy cases with clear windows built in (no modding necessary).
Do you guys think in the future you will be able to buy hard drives with clear covers from the factory? It would seem to me that some people would buy them, and all they would have to do is design a different cover for the drive, then sell it for more money. Anyway, what do you think?
> (How am i supposed to back up 40GB?)
I know you know this, but you could get a tape drive. And I am sure you also that "If you can't afford to lose your data, you can afford to back it up".
I am not trying to be an ass, just a reminder to all of us to back things up when important. I don't back my drives up either, I just some a blind faith that my hard drives will last until I get new ones. If my drives did stop working, it would REALLY suck, but it wouldn't suck so bad that it would cause major problems or ruin my life.
One day I will get a nice tape drive...
You are right for now, unfortunately. I can't wait for the day when I will have fibre running into my house just like the telephone line runs in today, though. It will happen in my lifetime, but not soon enough.
...And bandwidth will be as plentiful as the grains of sand in the desert...
Oh, I see now, thank you. I guess then I would just have to ask, why not when testing a card, give the lowest fps reached? Wouldn't that give a better approximation of how good a card would be when you need that extra grunt to ge tyou through the thick scenes?
You are right, and I don't think the book is that expensive anyways. I mean, come on, people, support the people you like, and don't support the people you don't like.
For instance, I will definately buy this book, but I will not buy any CD's because I do not want to support the RIAA, and that's where most of my money will be going. I don't mind supporting a publisher and the author for work which I think is hilarious.
Exactly. And after you crucify the user and burn the cross, if you are a true BOFH, the other users will come and thank you, and ask if you can do the same for them. This, is a key element to Bastard-Operator-From-Hellness.
Will someone elighten me on this whole fps thing? I am just a casual gamer, but normal TV is just under 30 fps, and it looks like full motion video. So, could you evn tell if something was over 30fps? At a certain point your eyes wouldn't be able to detect any difference, correct? If you can get 30 fps, is there any real advantage to having, say, 50fps?
You're right. I am sick and tired of people screaming bloody murder anytime 802.11b is mentioned and how insecure it will be (and then they get modded up as insighfull?!?!?)
/.ers, don't just continue on the same old rag about how it is not secure.
802.11b can be made pretty secure, and it's not even that hard. Yes, wireless will never be secure as other methods, but it's not a big gaping whole either (or at least it doesn't have to be).
So unless you know what you are talking about,
Minor correction... it's Ron Popeil (I have watches his infomercials more than I would care to admit... I don't always sleep very well.).
While I agree with you that this would be a good solution both for the author and for the community, there are some issues.
Chances are if this person went to get his book published, the publisher would then own the right to reproduce the book. Most publishers would not let you write a book and give it away electronically as well (unless you are steven king, etc.).
They just don't think it would make good business sense, and most publishers probably are in the business to make money, not for good will.
I think like you though, if it can be done, it would be a great solution. It won't be easy, though (getting a book published is very hard for those alredy not published).
That would be nice, but GPS has it's limitations. It rarely works completely indoors (i.e. not by a window, etc.), and it's only accurate to about 15 feet at best (unless you get a REALLY expensive GPS receiver... I am talking about the consumer models here).
It has been widely known for quite some time that the Slashdot.org moderators are normally on a form of cocaine, namely Crack. This explains their often eratic and nonsense behavior. Don't believe me? Post!
wow, she really looks bad in that picture! that must have been before a ton of plastic surgery? either that or makeup has gotten REALLY good...
Take a look at it, it's just a picture of Billiam clinton shaking her hand...
Well said. I also go to BSU, and I see a lot of people working much harder than I have to, and I am working full time and taking full time credits. yet, there are people doing what I am doing, plus support a family and kids, and maybe trying to pay for a house at the same time.
so, i know i am working hard, but I know there are people working much harder than I - and that is what keeps me going. That, and the hope that one day I will leave the "ratrace" and graduate in a year or two.
very well said. I hat people that say it can't be done - you are right in that they are just saying "it's too hard and I don't want to put forth the effort".