As someone who works at HP, this Agilent spinoff was brefore Carly, on Lew Platt's time. As much as you don't like Carly, you can't blaim THAT one on her... Although I can think of about 20 other things you CAN blaim on her... She drives me nuts as well watching this company go into the ground and turn out shoddy products. Anyone who remembers the HP calcs, the laserjets, the old testing equiptment, and the lovely HP9000, HP-UX, etc. remembers what HP used to be. Something with quality. Now, times have changed. The majority of the products are cheap and shoddy, the support has gone down hill, etc.
If Carly does get forecefully resigned (canned), I pray that the next CEO will drive this company ti what it used to be, and really make a push towards designing quality products that sell for more money, and stop competing with the bargain products.
I hate to ask... but, has anyone actually seen the video on moonmovie.com? I am wondering if it is any good or not.
another question: don't we have telescopes good enough that we could see things that were "left" on the moon, like the lunar rovers, their boots and gloves, etc.? It would seem that would put the "did we really land on the moon?" controversey to rest....
I liken this to Vi vs. Emacs. Both suck for usability (admit it), and to this day we continue to butt heads about them. I use vi, and like it more than Emacs, but I am adult enough to admit they both have some of the worst user interfaces available today.
not trolling, or starting a debate, just being honest.
I don't want to get marked down or flamed for trolling or anything, because I am not:
Thanks for posting this quote. The more I read in to this stuff, it often times seems as though Linux has an immature attitude, and often acts like a baby. Ignoring patches because you have a disagreement from someone is just plain immature. I can see how frustrated I would get working with Linus. He still acts like it is his little baby project, and that is just not the case anymore. Thosands of developers are working on it, and this kind of attitude by Linus would just turn people off from the project.
These kind of snide remarks by Linus are not needed, and if I was Rik, I would tell Linus to fuck off and put my talent to use somewhere else. Linus, act a little more mature.
I think it would be easier under unix. you could write a much better script that would do more. DOS batch files are pieces of shit compared to a decent scripting language.
I understand your point, but the point is it is like trying to look at a piece of glass 20, 30, 50, or 100 feet away and tell how long that piece of glass is. Sure, you can get pretty close most of the time, and that's all you can do is give your best guess. Therein lies the problem. And at different distances, it may be even hard to guess the appropriate time. And the further out you go, the harder it is.
I know in the real world we all have deadlines to meet, but also in the real world there are unexpected problems, weird people, equipment failures, sabotage, and a number of other factors that are just too hard or don't make sense to calculate when estimating. You can't calculate random occurences, you can calculate MTBF's and such, but even that is just a guess.
We all know that software schedules, etc. can be estimated, but not with a large degree of accuracy. It has always and will always just be a case of risk management, and whether you want to release early to market, or release late and have a better product.
In the real world, we don't go by some estimation or rigid schedule, and we wouldn't have to if not for the accountants and marketing people that have to prove their usefulness. THEY are the people who want estimates, and incredibly, they are also the people who have the least idea as to what is requred.
I agree with yuor assumptions, but in the review in the article, they said the CPU was deisnged to decode MP3 and WMA files. So, the hardware capability seems to be there, just not in the OS.
I definatley agree with you about the sore ears. Almost all of the "bud" style headphones give me sore ears. Some are better than others, but I still prefer the old 1980's style headphones. they mess up your hair sometimes, but since when do geeks care about appearance?
some of the other newer headphones types work pretty good, though, like the kind that kind of wrap around the back of your ear. Do some of us just have more sensitive ears? Other people I know wear ear buds all the time and don't complain, but my ears hurt and I get a headache.
Hey, man, don't forget AM radio! I want an mp3 player like the iPod with AM/FM radio to boot. I am a news and talk radio junky, and need my AM radio.
You know what sucks about AM radio though? I happen to work in a big server room, and all the AM RF interference makes it nearly impossible to listen to AM radio. I am thinking about getting an FM transmitter and locating an AM radio remotely then re-transmitting in on the FM band somewhere. It's either that or record everything and playback later (a real pain).
Funny, you call some one sexist and follow it with a derogatory term for a female body part (the vagina). On top of that, you offend Christians across the board by using Jesus Christ's name for no apparent reason, certainly not one pertaining to Christ.
I have my uplink capped at 15k/sec. It NEVER goes above that, it always maxes out at a crappy 15k. My service used to be fast, but I never get above 50k/sec. download and 15k/sec upload. Anyone else have this problem? (My service used to be AT&T @Home, then CableOne bought the service and speed went to hell, but reliably increased.)
You have a good point, and 802.11b probably would make sense in most conditions. The only benefits that this would offer you are 1) if you work in an area that has too much RF interference for 802.11b to work correctly, and 2) this would be more secure that 802.11b. For instance if you want to run a connection to your neighbor across the street, to intercept your connection, someone would have to get exactly in line with the transceiver, whereas 802.11b is broadcast all over the place.
Aside from that, it just looks like they built it because they could, and that, is reason enough.
The letter 'x' is a multiple stroke letter in grafitti (if you look at the grafiti manual), other than that is just punctuation. (I had a palm for 3 years, so I am going from my own knowledge).
To ilustrate this, I am testing software, and the defect only occurs in a German release of HPUX, so we have one unix box that is installed with the German version. They keyes are all fsucked up (hit 'z' get 'y', hit SHITT+7 to get '/'), etc. But it only took me a little while to become proficient and pick out what their words meant (esp. the common ones like OK, Cancel, Help, etc).
I did pretty much the same thing as you guys state, and I didn't abuse it much. The thing is, I may have abused it a couple of times, but I sure did learn a lot. And that is what is important.
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As someone who works at HP, this Agilent spinoff was brefore Carly, on Lew Platt's time. As much as you don't like Carly, you can't blaim THAT one on her... Although I can think of about 20 other things you CAN blaim on her... She drives me nuts as well watching this company go into the ground and turn out shoddy products. Anyone who remembers the HP calcs, the laserjets, the old testing equiptment, and the lovely HP9000, HP-UX, etc. remembers what HP used to be. Something with quality. Now, times have changed. The majority of the products are cheap and shoddy, the support has gone down hill, etc.
If Carly does get forecefully resigned (canned), I pray that the next CEO will drive this company ti what it used to be, and really make a push towards designing quality products that sell for more money, and stop competing with the bargain products.
I hate to ask... but, has anyone actually seen the video on moonmovie.com? I am wondering if it is any good or not.
another question: don't we have telescopes good enough that we could see things that were "left" on the moon, like the lunar rovers, their boots and gloves, etc.? It would seem that would put the "did we really land on the moon?" controversey to rest....
I liken this to Vi vs. Emacs. Both suck for usability (admit it), and to this day we continue to butt heads about them. I use vi, and like it more than Emacs, but I am adult enough to admit they both have some of the worst user interfaces available today.
not trolling, or starting a debate, just being honest.
I don't want to get marked down or flamed for trolling or anything, because I am not:
Thanks for posting this quote. The more I read in to this stuff, it often times seems as though Linux has an immature attitude, and often acts like a baby. Ignoring patches because you have a disagreement from someone is just plain immature. I can see how frustrated I would get working with Linus. He still acts like it is his little baby project, and that is just not the case anymore. Thosands of developers are working on it, and this kind of attitude by Linus would just turn people off from the project.
These kind of snide remarks by Linus are not needed, and if I was Rik, I would tell Linus to fuck off and put my talent to use somewhere else. Linus, act a little more mature.
Steve jobs only gets paid $1 a year from apple! How could he afford that?
Oh... you must be talking about his millions of stock options and bonuses...
I noticed that we
got more than 10
words per page with
this review, but
not much more!
smart guy, he is reviewing thirteen different monitors, not 13" monitors. or are you jsut trolling?
I think it would be easier under unix. you could write a much better script that would do more. DOS batch files are pieces of shit compared to a decent scripting language.
Not true... some people are illiterate.
I understand your point, but the point is it is like trying to look at a piece of glass 20, 30, 50, or 100 feet away and tell how long that piece of glass is. Sure, you can get pretty close most of the time, and that's all you can do is give your best guess. Therein lies the problem. And at different distances, it may be even hard to guess the appropriate time. And the further out you go, the harder it is.
I know in the real world we all have deadlines to meet, but also in the real world there are unexpected problems, weird people, equipment failures, sabotage, and a number of other factors that are just too hard or don't make sense to calculate when estimating. You can't calculate random occurences, you can calculate MTBF's and such, but even that is just a guess.
We all know that software schedules, etc. can be estimated, but not with a large degree of accuracy. It has always and will always just be a case of risk management, and whether you want to release early to market, or release late and have a better product.
In the real world, we don't go by some estimation or rigid schedule, and we wouldn't have to if not for the accountants and marketing people that have to prove their usefulness. THEY are the people who want estimates, and incredibly, they are also the people who have the least idea as to what is requred.
I agree with yuor assumptions, but in the review in the article, they said the CPU was deisnged to decode MP3 and WMA files. So, the hardware capability seems to be there, just not in the OS.
I definatley agree with you about the sore ears. Almost all of the "bud" style headphones give me sore ears. Some are better than others, but I still prefer the old 1980's style headphones. they mess up your hair sometimes, but since when do geeks care about appearance?
some of the other newer headphones types work pretty good, though, like the kind that kind of wrap around the back of your ear. Do some of us just have more sensitive ears? Other people I know wear ear buds all the time and don't complain, but my ears hurt and I get a headache.
Hey, man, don't forget AM radio! I want an mp3 player like the iPod with AM/FM radio to boot. I am a news and talk radio junky, and need my AM radio.
You know what sucks about AM radio though? I happen to work in a big server room, and all the AM RF interference makes it nearly impossible to listen to AM radio. I am thinking about getting an FM transmitter and locating an AM radio remotely then re-transmitting in on the FM band somewhere. It's either that or record everything and playback later (a real pain).
Since when does Slashdot talk about OSes other than Linux?
Funny, you call some one sexist and follow it with a derogatory term for a female body part (the vagina). On top of that, you offend Christians across the board by using Jesus Christ's name for no apparent reason, certainly not one pertaining to Christ.
Practice what you preach.
I have my uplink capped at 15k/sec. It NEVER goes above that, it always maxes out at a crappy 15k. My service used to be fast, but I never get above 50k/sec. download and 15k/sec upload. Anyone else have this problem? (My service used to be AT&T @Home, then CableOne bought the service and speed went to hell, but reliably increased.)
I stand corrected. Good point, sir.
You have a good point, and 802.11b probably would make sense in most conditions. The only benefits that this would offer you are 1) if you work in an area that has too much RF interference for 802.11b to work correctly, and 2) this would be more secure that 802.11b. For instance if you want to run a connection to your neighbor across the street, to intercept your connection, someone would have to get exactly in line with the transceiver, whereas 802.11b is broadcast all over the place.
Aside from that, it just looks like they built it because they could, and that, is reason enough.
Mod this guy up.
The letter 'x' is a multiple stroke letter in grafitti (if you look at the grafiti manual), other than that is just punctuation. (I had a palm for 3 years, so I am going from my own knowledge).
To ilustrate this, I am testing software, and the defect only occurs in a German release of HPUX, so we have one unix box that is installed with the German version. They keyes are all fsucked up (hit 'z' get 'y', hit SHITT+7 to get '/'), etc. But it only took me a little while to become proficient and pick out what their words meant (esp. the common ones like OK, Cancel, Help, etc).
I had mod points a few days ago and it was still in the list.
you can relax now.
Excellent quote. Mind if I steal it for my sig one of these days?
I did pretty much the same thing as you guys state, and I didn't abuse it much. The thing is, I may have abused it a couple of times, but I sure did learn a lot. And that is what is important.