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One, if you are doing an FTP install over a dial-up modem then it is faster if the packages are not bound up into an ISO since you're only going to download the packages you actually intend to install rather than full 650Mb+ image files for 2 or 3 files.
Two, Cheapbytes sells a copy of the SuSE LiveCD if you're that interested in trying SuSE out.
Three, you could buy the Personal edition for $30 (also sold by CheapBytes) then install whatever extras you wanted from SuSE's FTP mirrors.
There's three kinds of "easy". "Easy to use", "easy to learn", and "easy to use without learning". FreeBSD prefers the first two, while most "easy" Linux distros prefer the latter.
Well, apart from license and money reasons, are there any grounds for using Linux on desktops?
1) Some people like configuring and building things from scratch, Linux gives them that power.
2) No artificially forced hardware upgrades. Linux can still run on a 486 with 32MB of Ram and make it usefull again, will XP?
3) Linux is being constantly improved on a daily basis. The next version of Windows won't be out till 2006. Maybe.
4) Linux doesn't monitor your internet activity and report back to it's creators without your knowledge as a standard practice.
5) Linux is being developed by people who love computers and programming, always eager to find new solutions to your problems. Windows is being developed by people who love your money and want to find new ways to seperate you from it.
6) Linux is packaged and sold by dozens of companies willing to cater to any market and customize their software as necessary. Windows is sold by one corporation unwilling to change except for its largest customers. Your needs are immaterial to them.
7) When you develop software for Linux the market is open to competition. When you develop software for Windows you're constantly looking over your shoulder for Microsoft to decide your enough of a threat that they need to crush you.
8) Linux gives the user unlimited options to configure their system as they wish. Microsoft grudgingly gives limited ability to customize it's software and ties many of it tools to each other in convoluted knots meant to keep the user from straying to other vendors.
9) Linux adheres to open, published standards whenever possible ensuring that your data is easily transportable to other programs or operating systems. Microsoft 'improves' published standards with proprietary unpublished changes that lock you into their software and make moving to other vendors or OSes a logistics nightmare.
10) Linux doesn't make bold advertising campaigns about the new features that will be in it's next release, force VARs and developers to start training and preparing for those new features so that they can be ready to market and then slowly whittle down or outright dump those features because they have become unfeasable/obsolete/unprofitable as the release date gets pushed farther and farther back.
Shoot Novell an email and see if they'll send out a sales rep. If your company is interested in 'supported' operating systems then Novell, while new to Linux, has a longer support and retail history than RH.
The inconvienece is that Magnetic card readers wear quickly and everyone gets mad at a multiple swipe purchases, or when it doesn't even work at all.
I've never understood why credit cards don't use an imprinted 2D barcode and optical scanners for much the same reasons. If wear on the print were an issue they could use aluminium cards with holes as an optical punch card.
One issue with the RFID tags that doesn't seem to have been mentioned though, is would walking around with an RFID scanner be illegal? Technically you're just sending out a radio wave and recording any responses.
Standing in a line with a high-gain receiver shouldn't be any more illegal than sitting at home with a police scanner. Now, decoding the signal might encroach on the DMCA, and using the data would be credit card fraud. However, how could they make passively collecting credit card data illegal if it's being openly broadcasted?
My comment is mainly from the fact that no ISO's has been SuSE's policy since 6.3. They have felt no great compulsion to change that policy since then and are hardly likely to do so.
As others have mentioned, there are copies of the install disks floating around xMule and other P2P networks, as well you could chip in with some friends and buy the disks, then share them with each other. Do your community a favor and talk a local library into lending out a copy.
Having a copy of the receipt and album cover won't protect you legally either. Making a copy of a cd and selling that cd is as much copyright infringement as putting a copy of the cd on Kazaa.
As long as you hold on to that cd, however, you should be able to make as many copies for personal use as you wish. In fact, I'd say that it's imperative considering the evidence of long term cd rot and risk of physical damage.
But if they stop copyright violation, then it's quite easy for them to collude (more than currently) to raise prices even more.
The proper way to see the P2P'ers is as competition.
There is a difference between being able to make backup copies or device shifting of works that I have paid for and distributing someone else's creative works without fair compensation.
If the record companies collude to artifically inflate their prices, then simply don't consume their product.
Distributing someone else's creative works without compensating them is not competition, it's theft.
Do you think Bowie actually walks his royalty checks to the bank? No, that's taken care of by his accountants.
Speaking of, I can understand if a record company lost track of a band that put out one single in the 60's but how the hell do you loose track of David Bowie? Not to mention, how do you loose track of David Bowie's attorney's and accountants?
Considering that according to the article, the recording industry initiated this project and that it goes above and beyond what the law requires, it feels like they are attempting to position themselves for a new junta on copyright legislation. It seems like it's the only reason they'd take the initiative to clear their books of any perception of defrauding their artists.
The RIAA collects fines from people who violate the copyrights of it's membership. All monies collected in this endeavor are kept by the RIAA.
Their stance that they are fighting to see artists get paid is based on the theory that if they stop copyright violation, everyone will buy legitimate copies of the work and the record company will pay the artists. The RIAA is not actually writing checks out to Metallica, except perhaps for their promotional work.
3> for the Suggestions involving VNC, or Remote Desktop, they are good suggestions however they have been found to be a known security issue. UNLESS you run your own home network behind a firewall these should NEVER be used. If you use them without blocking internet connectivity to those ports, you will have every script kiddy in the known universe tapdancing all over your precious machine. IF you are behind a firewall they would be OK provided you secure the LAN and "trust" all the other machines on that LAN.
1) If you use a Windows PC and it's connected to the internet it should be behind a firewall. Period, end of discussion.
2) You can safely tunnel a VNC connection through SSH to connect over the internet.
According to the article, the discs are only %51 paper by weight. So it's safe to assume that it's a paper/resin mix, similar to a fiberglass panel but with paper fibers.
The article didn't mention it but I assume, given the opaque nature of paper, the discs must be double sided. Which means you would have to flip them over or have a device with 2 read heads. Either way thats less convenient than using clear plastic discs.
Actually the Blu-Ray discs hold 25GB in a single sided, single layer medium. That's one of the reasons that they can use a paper disc, the laser beam doesn't have to travel beyond the initial recording medium to a second layer.
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SuSE 'limiting' your choices? Oh that's funny, considering they have one of the largest distributions on the market. SuSE 9.0 fills an entire DVD before you add in the source files.
There is nothing wrong with giving people a default setup. If they aren't the most technical people too many choices will just scare them off and anyone who's interested can change the options at any time. This is NOT Microsoft-like lock-in.
Furthermore, SuSE/Novell are shooting for a corporate market and corporate markets do not want choice, they want a standard. Most sysadmins will further reduce the available choices even more.
Linux's greatest strength is that each distro can build out the features that meets their markets and skills, don't complain if their goals don't meet yours.
Don't they have to redistribute as per the GPL? Or does it all hinge on a proprietary closed-source installer or what?
Actually, they only have to provide access to the source code of whatever OSS programs that they've made changes to.
You're paying for the convenience of having the source pre-compiled and distributed on a CD/DVD with manuals, service (90 days worth) and various management tools and integration efforts that SuSE, RH or any other value they add to the base software.
IMO an experienced admin should take a minimal install of his favorite generic Linux/BSD distro, and build from there. Smoothwall is good for the less experienced though, who need an out of the box solution right now, not after 6 months googleing:-)
No, a junior admin should take the time to build a firewall from scratch.
An experienced admin is much too busy playing Nethack and downloading pr0n from his bosses logins while running a couple of Quake servers off the company T1 to devote that kind of time to a project.
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One, if you are doing an FTP install over a dial-up modem then it is faster if the packages are not bound up into an ISO since you're only going to download the packages you actually intend to install rather than full 650Mb+ image files for 2 or 3 files.
Two, Cheapbytes sells a copy of the SuSE LiveCD if you're that interested in trying SuSE out.
Three, you could buy the Personal edition for $30 (also sold by CheapBytes) then install whatever extras you wanted from SuSE's FTP mirrors.
If you don't download the source files then the entire FTP distro is about 4GB.
Shaaka - When the warp core breached.
Shaaka - When he soiled himself.
It's a Live-CD, there's only so much room and KDE has always been SuSE's preferred desktop.
Most computer users prefer the latter as well.
1) Some people like configuring and building things from scratch, Linux gives them that power.
2) No artificially forced hardware upgrades. Linux can still run on a 486 with 32MB of Ram and make it usefull again, will XP?
3) Linux is being constantly improved on a daily basis. The next version of Windows won't be out till 2006. Maybe.
4) Linux doesn't monitor your internet activity and report back to it's creators without your knowledge as a standard practice.
5) Linux is being developed by people who love computers and programming, always eager to find new solutions to your problems. Windows is being developed by people who love your money and want to find new ways to seperate you from it.
6) Linux is packaged and sold by dozens of companies willing to cater to any market and customize their software as necessary. Windows is sold by one corporation unwilling to change except for its largest customers. Your needs are immaterial to them.
7) When you develop software for Linux the market is open to competition. When you develop software for Windows you're constantly looking over your shoulder for Microsoft to decide your enough of a threat that they need to crush you.
8) Linux gives the user unlimited options to configure their system as they wish. Microsoft grudgingly gives limited ability to customize it's software and ties many of it tools to each other in convoluted knots meant to keep the user from straying to other vendors.
9) Linux adheres to open, published standards whenever possible ensuring that your data is easily transportable to other programs or operating systems. Microsoft 'improves' published standards with proprietary unpublished changes that lock you into their software and make moving to other vendors or OSes a logistics nightmare.
10) Linux doesn't make bold advertising campaigns about the new features that will be in it's next release, force VARs and developers to start training and preparing for those new features so that they can be ready to market and then slowly whittle down or outright dump those features because they have become unfeasable/obsolete/unprofitable as the release date gets pushed farther and farther back.
Shoot Novell an email and see if they'll send out a sales rep. If your company is interested in 'supported' operating systems then Novell, while new to Linux, has a longer support and retail history than RH.
Have you tried the mailing list to see if anyone else has had your problem?
As for myself, I've been using SuSE since 6.x and I've never noticed that particular bug in Yast.
I've never understood why credit cards don't use an imprinted 2D barcode and optical scanners for much the same reasons. If wear on the print were an issue they could use aluminium cards with holes as an optical punch card.
One issue with the RFID tags that doesn't seem to have been mentioned though, is would walking around with an RFID scanner be illegal? Technically you're just sending out a radio wave and recording any responses.
Standing in a line with a high-gain receiver shouldn't be any more illegal than sitting at home with a police scanner. Now, decoding the signal might encroach on the DMCA, and using the data would be credit card fraud. However, how could they make passively collecting credit card data illegal if it's being openly broadcasted?
Actually SuSE 8.0 was released in April 2002.
SuSE releases on a 5/6 month cycle, with three point revisions per major number.
My comment is mainly from the fact that no ISO's has been SuSE's policy since 6.3. They have felt no great compulsion to change that policy since then and are hardly likely to do so.
As others have mentioned, there are copies of the install disks floating around xMule and other P2P networks, as well you could chip in with some friends and buy the disks, then share them with each other. Do your community a favor and talk a local library into lending out a copy.
Options abound.
Blah blah SuSE blah no free ISO's blah blah I'm a spoiled child crying because I'm not getting my way blah blah
Gee, talk about hearing it all before.
For one, the consumer electronics market is wide open.
Most CE products are made in Japan, Korea and China, all countries with a healthy distrust of Microsoft.
They just agreed to jointly develop Linux for their markets.
Having a copy of the receipt and album cover won't protect you legally either. Making a copy of a cd and selling that cd is as much copyright infringement as putting a copy of the cd on Kazaa.
As long as you hold on to that cd, however, you should be able to make as many copies for personal use as you wish. In fact, I'd say that it's imperative considering the evidence of long term cd rot and risk of physical damage.
If the record companies collude to artifically inflate their prices, then simply don't consume their product.
Distributing someone else's creative works without compensating them is not competition, it's theft.
Do you think Bowie actually walks his royalty checks to the bank? No, that's taken care of by his accountants.
Speaking of, I can understand if a record company lost track of a band that put out one single in the 60's but how the hell do you loose track of David Bowie? Not to mention, how do you loose track of David Bowie's attorney's and accountants?
Considering that according to the article, the recording industry initiated this project and that it goes above and beyond what the law requires, it feels like they are attempting to position themselves for a new junta on copyright legislation. It seems like it's the only reason they'd take the initiative to clear their books of any perception of defrauding their artists.
The RIAA collects fines from people who violate the copyrights of it's membership. All monies collected in this endeavor are kept by the RIAA.
Their stance that they are fighting to see artists get paid is based on the theory that if they stop copyright violation, everyone will buy legitimate copies of the work and the record company will pay the artists. The RIAA is not actually writing checks out to Metallica, except perhaps for their promotional work.
1) If you use a Windows PC and it's connected to the internet it should be behind a firewall. Period, end of discussion.
2) You can safely tunnel a VNC connection through SSH to connect over the internet.
According to the article, the discs are only %51 paper by weight. So it's safe to assume that it's a paper/resin mix, similar to a fiberglass panel but with paper fibers.
Actually the Blu-Ray discs hold 25GB in a single sided, single layer medium. That's one of the reasons that they can use a paper disc, the laser beam doesn't have to travel beyond the initial recording medium to a second layer.
Open Mozilla's Options menu
Go to General->Connection Settings
Select Manual Proxy Configuration
HTTP Proxy: Localhost Port:80
No Proxy For:sesamestreet.com, nick.com, etc.
There is nothing wrong with giving people a default setup. If they aren't the most technical people too many choices will just scare them off and anyone who's interested can change the options at any time. This is NOT Microsoft-like lock-in.
Furthermore, SuSE/Novell are shooting for a corporate market and corporate markets do not want choice, they want a standard. Most sysadmins will further reduce the available choices even more.
Linux's greatest strength is that each distro can build out the features that meets their markets and skills, don't complain if their goals don't meet yours.
You're paying for the convenience of having the source pre-compiled and distributed on a CD/DVD with manuals, service (90 days worth) and various management tools and integration efforts that SuSE, RH or any other value they add to the base software.
An experienced admin is much too busy playing Nethack and downloading pr0n from his bosses logins while running a couple of Quake servers off the company T1 to devote that kind of time to a project.
It's really hard to run Snort from a floppy distro.
Also, think about it, if the distro is a 33mb ISO chances are damn good that it won't install to a floppy.