Don't forget that Scrote (BillJo really) has been pushing for intelligent, networked appliances for almost ten years, and where OH WHERE are all those Java savvy appliances? Sure, my cell phone has J2ME inside, but my fridge, microwave, and dishwasher are still solid state.
Sun killed its network computer project, and many of its network appliances... but maybe you can still get a Java-enabled ring on eBay.
SM is an opinionated, boorish, egotistical and argumentative conservative.
SJ is an opinionated, visionary, egotistical and flamboyant liberal.
'course they have opinionated and egotistical and opinionated in common, but hey, I remember talking with SM in the late 80's and thinking to myself... How the explative did this explative get here? Oh yeah, he's an explative.
Once Norton Utilies was good, Partition Magic was good, and NAV wasn't annoying. Now NAV significantly slows down performance, and for the personal edition, requires it revalidate itself over the internet all the time REQUIRING user input. So... I removed NAV from most of my computers; NAV is supposed to be seamless. And some of us STILL want to check for viruses offline.
Personally, I think this is an attempt by Symantec to grab an opportunity for advertising revenue.
And Symantec already has TOTALLY BOGUS REBATE OFFERS. I bought All of the above products (though NAV was an OEM bundle). When I upgraded every one of them with the promise of rebate, I got 3 rejection letters. First, they said they couldn't find my previous registration for PM or accept my s/n (though I religiously register, cause it was PQ, so they didn't move over support etc.) Next, they didn't allow my OEM as an "upgrade". The only reason I bought the software was because of the rebate; and the processing (3 months) meant that it was way too late to return. Not to mention that Symantec's PM handily corrupted every volume I merged.
Anyway... crapware... liars... don't buy the products...
Maybe its because it melted the easter eggs? Or he worries it will damage the furniture. Or start a fire. The first person who has a MATERIAL LOSS is entitled to sue. I take it this guy hasn't (from reading tfa.)
People will always do stupid things with power supplies. Hell, my cat loves to sleep on power supplies. A consumer device shouldn't kill you (or your pets.)
I'm currious, when people are looking for code, what do they do as a first resort? Maybe this should be a poll. Me, I'm a bit funny... 1) look in my library (books) 2) do a deja search 3) ask smarter people than me 4) do a web search (usually on specific sites)
Beginning of the year those of us unfortunate enough to support Jrun apps were told MM was actively supporting it. Yeah, we said, we can move to something else after browbeating our masters. Then a couple months ago we here there IS a development team asking what improvements people would like to see in Jrun... Adobe! We know you hate fringe products; KILL JRUN NOW. DIE DIE DIE JRUN DIE.
It was a minority government, and the three opposition parties got together and introduced a non confident motion that the parliament voted on. So, they won, and now we have an election in January.
The US doesn't work that way. But your ignorance of the Canadian system surely qualifies your statements about Canadian health care.
If I want to go to a private clinic or hospital, I can. Universal health care provides baseline service for everyone. If you can afford otherwise, you can do otherwise.
Its a bit different than the Private ambulance company driving past the closest hospital because your HMO isn't serviced there.
There is was buzz about Microsoft "thinking" about releasing an ad powered version of windows. I think it was on./ within the last few weeks (maybe not as a microsoft specific trail). Its not new; back in 97 BillG was yapping about transactional revenue as the future... sounds all dot-comish to me.
Microsoft gave away IE, and I disagree it was "small". Microsoft already gives away WordPad, that has a lot of Word in it. And I agree people need to be paid, and I believe there are issues around free software that will never make it on the same level as a commercial product. That said, IE development cost were rolled into the OS. That would happen with office (home) too as there really is no such thing as "free".
With the relational file system that was supposedly part of the next windows, there is talk of having more bits of Access in the OS. Jet is already there (evil "database engine").
And there is more talk of having Windows itself move to a different revenue paradigm. I wouldn't doubt MS is continuing along the "unified platform" path.
(And yeah, I've written a simple word processor, and spreadsheet in my life.)
Once there were lots of word processors. Then there were two: Word Perfect and MS Word. MS Word was the better product in the end - Word 5.0 was solid.
Then there was one. And one has become evil bloatware, because every couple years MS has to pile on features few people use. So what happens when something gets so complicated and expensive that it doesn't make sense to use it?
Competition comes back.
But there are two problems in my opinion. 1) start ups competing against an entrenched product really need to have their sh1t together; 2) people gotta eat. You can't make a kick butt product with support for free, and all an evil competitor would need to do is make their product free to totally crush you (like IE vs Netscape). I have no doubts that if Microsoft ever felt threatened by a competitor or free software, that they would bundle office "free".
Microsoft had an old saying... I have it on a mug honest... "One company does it all." Its true in everything Microsoft does, whether it be desktop os and app integration, the convergence around entertainment systems, or development tools.
I think the problem is that no unification theory holds. I software development, from a team perspective, from design to implementation to testing... regardless of what model you follow... the development team is most effective when they are not constrained by a tool.
In my current work environment, the company tried to standardize on one web server, one IDE, one OR mapper... it failed miserably. The reality is we have 4 web servers, a multitude of IDEs, and tons of different technologies that are fitting specific needs. Even on the Microsoft platform.
I do not doubt that the team tools are cool for collaboration. But they are going to be pushed into organizations that already have team tools, or ways of doing stuff.
Right tools for the right job? Most Rose managed projects I know fail. Who uses all the lifecycle stuff in JBuilder 2005? Is anyone tired of development environments that take gigs?
I saw a lot of comments on this thread about the XBox being the first PC repackaged game box. It actually wasn't the first, hence the failed Apple Pippin reference. Now, personally I find the laf similarities between the Pippin and the Xbox amusing, and even more amusing is the PPC with the 360. From going to WWDC for 5 years, watching ATG technologies that Apple failed to produce but Microsoft push out, and failed Apple technology that other companies have done really well at... I'm just baffled by how badly Apple messed up so many opportunities in the 90s.
Not that microsoft is any better, with their failed gaming (circa 80s), printing, hand held...
From working with code that's not maintainable... on projects that cannot possibly effectively be upgraded... its not a career path. I know this is satire, but there is no job security in obscurity. We are in a disposable work force. Some poor fool will come along and get crappy projects unloaded on them. They are the ones that will reap the benefit of figuring it out, and or re-writing it. So its really all about frustrating our colleagues.
And the worst possible thing you can do is use the wrong technology or architecture for the solution to a problem. For example, make a 2-tier app into a 3-tier one, or using MOM to provide what you could do with simple database replication. Most of those problems are caused by inexperienced developers or overexperienced architects....
But I must say, Roedy sure does write some ass pounding funny stuff.
The problem with your argument not mentioned by the other post is that usenet requires serious hosting by the ISP. Web content is hosted by the content providor, not the ISP.
Its a lot easier to not visit an offending web site then it is to block noxious content comming in via usenet. Theoretically, an ISP is liable for hosting illegal material that is available from their servers. I read a study once that 80% of usenet trafic was porn. Not saying that newsgroups weren't valuable and enjoyable as a means of communication, but a 3m mpeg of "girl does horse."
Sure, you can get some free press on macintouch, but trying to get capital for a mac start up is like blood from a stone. From 95 to 98 I was unable to find stable MacOS related work. From 88 to 95 I was a die hard Mac developer. I also was big on NeXTStep, had a cube, and was one of the first to get Rhapsody... I published an OpenDoc product, that was promptly killed in 96 when Novell died, IBM bet the farm on Java, and Apple couldn't figure out where it was going.
In 1998 the Data Visualization group at Microsoft showed me some real cool stuff... I don't believe any of it ever shipped, but it completely disuaded me from venturing into that pile of crap market.
Don't forget ReportMill. Its Java, and a pile of crap too. But most enterprises I know have dumped a pile of cash into Crystal and ReportMill...
There probably is no correlation between people buying iPods, people using Wintel, and people buying Macs...
The lifecycle of a PC is about 2 years. A mac is about 5 years. Its probable that this is just a turnover of pre-existing mac users.
Nobody I know or has met who has a Mac bought one because of an iPod.
One one person I've met has bought a Mac because of Windows issues... and they were also a frustrated Linux user.
However, I've met a few people who have bought Macs just because they look cool, fit in with their Ikea furniture, and are trendy.
(I'm a former Mac user. Now I use Windows, mostly for games. Not that I want to... I had the choice between starving MacOS developer, average Wintel developer, or corpulent enterprise Java developer. After starving for a number of years, I chose the corpulent route.)
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Supposedly that was Gosling's reason: unsigned types complicate code and produce nasty logic errors.
So, the types reflect the signedness of their use. However, I've rarely if ever used signed bytes... I have tons of (int)b&0xFF in my wire savvy code:-(
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Don't forget that Scrote (BillJo really) has been pushing for intelligent, networked appliances for almost ten years, and where OH WHERE are all those Java savvy appliances? Sure, my cell phone has J2ME inside, but my fridge, microwave, and dishwasher are still solid state.
Sun killed its network computer project, and many of its network appliances... but maybe you can still get a Java-enabled ring on eBay.
Perhaps he was being politically correct.
SM is an opinionated, boorish, egotistical and argumentative conservative.
SJ is an opinionated, visionary, egotistical and flamboyant liberal.
'course they have opinionated and egotistical and opinionated in common, but hey, I remember talking with SM in the late 80's and thinking to myself... How the explative did this explative get here? Oh yeah, he's an explative.
Only cream and bastards rise...
What is this about Billy swiping DOS from CP/M anyway.
Why not remember the MTU and use CODOS circa (what) 1972. To heck with MSDOS.
http://www.mtu.com/support/mtucomputers.htm
But wait! That was 5 freakin years before Bill's brief hotel innovation where he tossed off DOS!
Not like there was prior art (hey, RDOS from DataGeneral in 1970.)
But I really like DOS 3.3 from Apple... but that's 1979. Or ProDOS in the early 80s.
Obviously he has friends.
He removed a "system call"... guess what... there are probably a few applications that have a legit reason to use this function.
Kinda like chemotherapy... kill everything 'cause you might get the cancer too.
So Microsoft is doing some due diligence to figure out how its broken and how to fix it without breaking more sh!t.
I love this though. There is a bunch of calls in kernel32 that pose potentially security risks... lets remove them...
Once Norton Utilies was good, Partition Magic was good, and NAV wasn't annoying. Now NAV significantly slows down performance, and for the personal edition, requires it revalidate itself over the internet all the time REQUIRING user input. So... I removed NAV from most of my computers; NAV is supposed to be seamless. And some of us STILL want to check for viruses offline.
Personally, I think this is an attempt by Symantec to grab an opportunity for advertising revenue.
And Symantec already has TOTALLY BOGUS REBATE OFFERS. I bought All of the above products (though NAV was an OEM bundle). When I upgraded every one of them with the promise of rebate, I got 3 rejection letters. First, they said they couldn't find my previous registration for PM or accept my s/n (though I religiously register, cause it was PQ, so they didn't move over support etc.) Next, they didn't allow my OEM as an "upgrade". The only reason I bought the software was because of the rebate; and the processing (3 months) meant that it was way too late to return. Not to mention that Symantec's PM handily corrupted every volume I merged.
Anyway... crapware... liars... don't buy the products...
Maybe its because it melted the easter eggs? Or he worries it will damage the furniture. Or start a fire. The first person who has a MATERIAL LOSS is entitled to sue. I take it this guy hasn't (from reading tfa.)
People will always do stupid things with power supplies. Hell, my cat loves to sleep on power supplies. A consumer device shouldn't kill you (or your pets.)
I'm currious, when people are looking for code, what do they do as a first resort? Maybe this should be a poll. Me, I'm a bit funny...
1) look in my library (books)
2) do a deja search
3) ask smarter people than me
4) do a web search (usually on specific sites)
Beginning of the year those of us unfortunate enough to support Jrun apps were told MM was actively supporting it. Yeah, we said, we can move to something else after browbeating our masters. Then a couple months ago we here there IS a development team asking what improvements people would like to see in Jrun... Adobe! We know you hate fringe products; KILL JRUN NOW. DIE DIE DIE JRUN DIE.
p.s. I don't like Jrun.
I'm sure someone will mention this...
Canada doesn't have a congress.
We have a parliament.
We didn't vote them out of office.
It was a minority government, and the three opposition parties got together and introduced a non confident motion that the parliament voted on. So, they won, and now we have an election in January.
The US doesn't work that way. But your ignorance of the Canadian system surely qualifies your statements about Canadian health care.
If I want to go to a private clinic or hospital, I can. Universal health care provides baseline service for everyone. If you can afford otherwise, you can do otherwise.
Its a bit different than the Private ambulance company driving past the closest hospital because your HMO isn't serviced there.
There is was buzz about Microsoft "thinking" about releasing an ad powered version of windows. I think it was on ./ within the last few weeks (maybe not as a microsoft specific trail). Its not new; back in 97 BillG was yapping about transactional revenue as the future... sounds all dot-comish to me.
Microsoft gave away IE, and I disagree it was "small". Microsoft already gives away WordPad, that has a lot of Word in it. And I agree people need to be paid, and I believe there are issues around free software that will never make it on the same level as a commercial product. That said, IE development cost were rolled into the OS. That would happen with office (home) too as there really is no such thing as "free".
With the relational file system that was supposedly part of the next windows, there is talk of having more bits of Access in the OS. Jet is already there (evil "database engine").
And there is more talk of having Windows itself move to a different revenue paradigm. I wouldn't doubt MS is continuing along the "unified platform" path.
(And yeah, I've written a simple word processor, and spreadsheet in my life.)
Once there were lots of word processors. Then there were two: Word Perfect and MS Word. MS Word was the better product in the end - Word 5.0 was solid.
Then there was one. And one has become evil bloatware, because every couple years MS has to pile on features few people use. So what happens when something gets so complicated and expensive that it doesn't make sense to use it?
Competition comes back.
But there are two problems in my opinion. 1) start ups competing against an entrenched product really need to have their sh1t together; 2) people gotta eat. You can't make a kick butt product with support for free, and all an evil competitor would need to do is make their product free to totally crush you (like IE vs Netscape). I have no doubts that if Microsoft ever felt threatened by a competitor or free software, that they would bundle office "free".
Microsoft had an old saying... I have it on a mug honest... "One company does it all." Its true in everything Microsoft does, whether it be desktop os and app integration, the convergence around entertainment systems, or development tools.
I think the problem is that no unification theory holds. I software development, from a team perspective, from design to implementation to testing... regardless of what model you follow... the development team is most effective when they are not constrained by a tool.
In my current work environment, the company tried to standardize on one web server, one IDE, one OR mapper... it failed miserably. The reality is we have 4 web servers, a multitude of IDEs, and tons of different technologies that are fitting specific needs. Even on the Microsoft platform.
I do not doubt that the team tools are cool for collaboration. But they are going to be pushed into organizations that already have team tools, or ways of doing stuff.
Right tools for the right job? Most Rose managed projects I know fail. Who uses all the lifecycle stuff in JBuilder 2005? Is anyone tired of development environments that take gigs?
I saw a lot of comments on this thread about the XBox being the first PC repackaged game box. It actually wasn't the first, hence the failed Apple Pippin reference. Now, personally I find the laf similarities between the Pippin and the Xbox amusing, and even more amusing is the PPC with the 360. From going to WWDC for 5 years, watching ATG technologies that Apple failed to produce but Microsoft push out, and failed Apple technology that other companies have done really well at... I'm just baffled by how badly Apple messed up so many opportunities in the 90s.
Not that microsoft is any better, with their failed gaming (circa 80s), printing, hand held...
Ha! I hate Apple. I just hate Microsoft more.
http://www.theapplecollection.com/design/macproto/ Pippin.html
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From working with code that's not maintainable... on projects that cannot possibly effectively be upgraded... its not a career path. I know this is satire, but there is no job security in obscurity. We are in a disposable work force. Some poor fool will come along and get crappy projects unloaded on them. They are the ones that will reap the benefit of figuring it out, and or re-writing it. So its really all about frustrating our colleagues.
And the worst possible thing you can do is use the wrong technology or architecture for the solution to a problem. For example, make a 2-tier app into a 3-tier one, or using MOM to provide what you could do with simple database replication. Most of those problems are caused by inexperienced developers or overexperienced architects....
But I must say, Roedy sure does write some ass pounding funny stuff.
Its so true! Bjorne could keep fighting with an arm off!
Selective breeding is wonderful. It explains George Bush and mulletheads.
The problem with your argument not mentioned by the other post is that usenet requires serious hosting by the ISP. Web content is hosted by the content providor, not the ISP.
Its a lot easier to not visit an offending web site then it is to block noxious content comming in via usenet. Theoretically, an ISP is liable for hosting illegal material that is available from their servers. I read a study once that 80% of usenet trafic was porn. Not saying that newsgroups weren't valuable and enjoyable as a means of communication, but a 3m mpeg of "girl does horse."
I'm hardly a fanboy. I used both. And I have lots of reasons to hate Apple.
And I'd love to see HL2 running on 5 year old hardware. I can't play it on my Dell T850...
Sure, you can get some free press on macintouch, but trying to get capital for a mac start up is like blood from a stone. From 95 to 98 I was unable to find stable MacOS related work. From 88 to 95 I was a die hard Mac developer. I also was big on NeXTStep, had a cube, and was one of the first to get Rhapsody... I published an OpenDoc product, that was promptly killed in 96 when Novell died, IBM bet the farm on Java, and Apple couldn't figure out where it was going.
Pick the pile of crap you want to die in...
In 1998 the Data Visualization group at Microsoft showed me some real cool stuff... I don't believe any of it ever shipped, but it completely disuaded me from venturing into that pile of crap market.
Don't forget ReportMill. Its Java, and a pile of crap too. But most enterprises I know have dumped a pile of cash into Crystal and ReportMill...
There probably is no correlation between people buying iPods, people using Wintel, and people buying Macs...
The lifecycle of a PC is about 2 years. A mac is about 5 years. Its probable that this is just a turnover of pre-existing mac users.
Nobody I know or has met who has a Mac bought one because of an iPod.
One one person I've met has bought a Mac because of Windows issues... and they were also a frustrated Linux user.
However, I've met a few people who have bought Macs just because they look cool, fit in with their Ikea furniture, and are trendy.
(I'm a former Mac user. Now I use Windows, mostly for games. Not that I want to... I had the choice between starving MacOS developer, average Wintel developer, or corpulent enterprise Java developer. After starving for a number of years, I chose the corpulent route.)
Supposedly that was Gosling's reason: unsigned types complicate code and produce nasty logic errors.
:-(
So, the types reflect the signedness of their use. However, I've rarely if ever used signed bytes... I have tons of (int)b&0xFF in my wire savvy code